'Godless' billboard goes up

There are way more people in the world that believe in GOD than there are that do not believe him him. So why are we trying so hard to please this small amount of people?

Just had to make the observation that the angry, hate-filled, love-it-or-leave-it comments seem to be coming from those whose claim that they follow the commandments of a loving god. Didn't Jesus say something about going into your room, shutting the door, and praying there? It's the hypocritical stance of so-called religious people that turned me off to religion in the first place. God loves you beyond measure, but is ready to punish you for eternity for not being perfect? Accept (insert name of your personal lord and savior) or burn? Is this the 16th century?

If you blame the atheists and agnostics for the decline of civilization, violence, immorality, blah blah blah, tell me please just exactly who has been running this country all this time? Christians!

"" GOD BLESS US EVERYONE"!

Reading over the comments, one fact becomes painfully clear: Many, if not most of you are as un-informed about US History as you obviously are about the genesis and history of your own religions. According to the World Christian Encyclopedia, http://christianity.about.com/od/denominations/p/christiantoday.htm there are about 38,000 distinct sects and denominations of Christianity! Without even bothering to ask why this is true, I wish to point out that the disagreements among the sects, some effecting basic dogma, was one of the primary reasons why the delegates to the Constitutional Convention created a totally secular government.

Prior to the revolution, it was as illegal to be a member of the Church of England in Connecticut as it was to be a Congregationalist in Virginia. The patchwork of religious laws in force in the colonies left the founders with no option other then allow no establishments at all. That's why we allow no religious tests for office, allow an elected official to swear OR AFFIRM an oath of office, and forbid the government to establish a particular religion, which has been interpreted by the courts to mean any religion.

It took me over 6,000 words to develop this thought fully: http://pwsoderman.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/christian-nation-you-say.p...

We are not trying to "change the Constitution," as some have suggested, but are merely suggesting that the pledge return to the form in which it was when it was first instituted, before the knee-jerking in the 50's. Those of you who are suggesting that we are somehow Communists, or worse, are merely ignorant of the facts.

Those who suggest that without some god or other there is "no basis for morality," are merely parroting the dogma you hear at your place of worship on a regular basis. I might suggest you ponder this question: Is something "good" because god says it is, or does god say it is BECAUSE it's good?

This is not a new question, it was posed by Plato, and to date, not Christian (or other religious) apologist has ever satisfactorily answered it. You see, if something is "good" because god says it is, then it's totally arbitrary, as god could say murder was good, for instance, or rape. If god says something is "good" because it is, then there is a moral authority outside of god. Fortunately for the human race, the second statement is the one that is true, for following the first statement, you get witch trials, dark ages, crusades, and airplane flying into buildings.

Just think a bit!

Just to be clear. There is History the way you think it should have been and choose to remember it. And then there is the Actual recorded history of America, the way it actually was.

The pledge of allegiance was written in 1892. "I pledge allegiance to my Flag and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

in 1923 it was changed from "my flag" to "the Flag of the United States"

in 1942 they added "of America"

and finally in 1954 the words "under God" where added

we survived as a nation for 178 years without the words "under God" in our pledge.

Think before you post. Research what you think.

Most of the Founding Fathers were all Deists (not Christians). Ben Franklin and Thomas Paine were too prominent deists, and the SECULAR, NON-CHRISTIAN (mostly deist) presidents we've had are even more interesting: Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, J.Q.Adams, Jackson, and Lincoln.

Washington famously attended church once in NYC, after he became president, and at the communion part, he walked out. The priest told him later to set a good example, and Washington replied that he would not bother his church anymore. Although Washington was a very quiet man who kept his beliefs mostly to himself, the historical record, including letters by various inquiring religious officials, confirm that he was a deist.

Paine, Adams, and Jefferson, were adamant in their disdain for organized religion, evidenced clearly from their writings. Jefferson could not stand the word "God" in the Declaration, so he used the word "Creator" instead.

Here is an original document, from the Treaty of Tripoli which President George Washington negotiated and President John Adams signed:
Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen,—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

The Founding Fathers understood that the SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE was necessary to keep politics civil and religion free. The moment religion steps into politics, unnecessary strife ensues. The moment politics steps into religion, unnecessary strife ensues. The church has no more business in the state house than the state house has any business in the church! You should exercise your religion freely, but make NO ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION in your government!

Have you seen the movie Legion? Good stuff!
Secular represent. Greydon Square represent. Jefferson was right.

First of all I hate billboards. They're an eye sore and trashy looking.
Second, I am agnostic....can't really figure out what to believe, but I am opposed to changing our pledge of allegiance. It's drilled in my brain from years of saying it every single morning in school that it will ALWAYS be 'one nation, under God, indivisible'!!! Can't people find something better to do with thier time?? JEEZ

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Our founding fathers based everything they did under God they did not try to force anyone to believe in God why would you try to force someone to Not believe in God? it's wrong it's immoral it's a disgrace to this country if you don't want to believe in God thats your problem but don't go trying to change something that has been in place for many many years. thats like trying to change the constitution just to fit your selfish needs Why is it so horrbible to have God in our schools and in our pledge? it's never been a problem before, as a matter of fact since you started taking God out of our schools they have become a horrible enviroment for the children who are actually there to learn and make something out of themselves you have gangs in schools fights everyday people bringing guns and knives and drugs to school our country was founded by immigrants most chose to be here in one nation under God if you don't like it find somewhere else to live

Sorry Mike Connelly, but there is no way to "tastefully" remove God from our society. People and comments like yours are what is wrong with the country and perpetuate the secularization of our society. If you think morality and family values are improving in our country and the world is a better place, think again. Don’t be fooled by this subtle attempt to change the way our children are raised and educated.

Stand up against this communist group. Let your patrons know that you don’t support their agenda. Put some effort into something in your life and don’t be afraid of what some idiot might think.

These "secular" heathens would have you believe that they intentions are just. When the intention here is to destroy this country and bring it to its knees. Secular-the state of being separate from religion!!! We are guaranteed freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. Now while I agree that organized religions can have their "extremists," the majority of people are moral and just. However, to remove GOD from this country is to allow ill-willed, evil people to do as they please. It is religion that keeps everyone on the path of justice and the pursuit of happiness. These people will destroy this country if allowed. It is up to every God fearing christian to stand and fight to keep this country alive and well. The United States was founded on strong Christain morals and beliefs, by strong Christians. We are on the verge of allowing GODLESS people to tear at the very foundation of our country, our livelyhood and the very depth of our being. If we sit back and do nothing to stop this purely evil gesture, then we are at fault for its disastrous result!!!!

There's one thing for sure:

The NC Secular Association has little imagination when it comes to getting their point across.

They had to rely on a trashy billboard. Ugh!

Why couldn't they have taken out an ad in the paper or on TV or Internet, etc?

You cant change the pledge of allegiance.....hahahahaha.....it will always remain the same.

Shame on the NC Secular Association for renting spaces on billboards (the worst visual polluters along our streets and highways) to make their picayune point.

Are there any organizations who are willing to demand that billboards (litter on sticks) be banned from our highways?

No, probably not. It seems that few care about the degradation of our urban and rural environments by humongous, frightfully-ugly billboards.

I say,"Tear them down now!"

Say it enough times and people will begin to believe it.
But whether we're indivisible or divided, decieved or walking in truth, we will always be under God.

When I was in school, when I took the oath to defend this great land, and when I pay my bills and taxes "under GOD" was and still is involved in the process one way or another. When our Washington represenitives, in either house, start their day it is lead in prayer. If we can no longer pray to our father, in our white house, congress, schools, homes, then we are already lost. God help us all....