DOWNTOWN VIOLENCE: Rhino Club patron stabbed to death overnight


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Submitted: Tue, 01/25/2011 - 4:59am
Updated: Wed, 01/26/2011 - 2:13am
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THE FOLLOWING IS FROM A NEWS RELEASE FROM THE WILMINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT:

A fight in front of the Rhino Club, 125 Market Street, has resulted in the death of a Wilmington man.

The incident was reported at 2:12 a.m. on Monday morning. According to witnesses, a large crowd from the club exited at closing time and a fight broke out. Witnesses said 30 – 40 people were involved. Three men were stabbed. All three victims were driven to the New Hanover Regional Medical Center by people at the scene. One of the men, age 20, had been stabbed in the chest. He was pronounced dead at the hospital. The other two victims are being treated for stab wounds that do not appear to be life-threatening.

The name of the man who died will be released later today. This death is the first homicide reported in 2011.

A second violent incident, possibly related to the incident in front of the Rhino Club, was reported within a few minutes of the stabbings. Two men were shot in the 600 block of Emory Street at about 2:30 a.m. (approximate time). One was grazed by a shot to the head and the other was shot in the back. Neither of their wounds appears to be life-threatening. The victims told investigating WPD officers that they had witnessed the fight in front of the Rhino Club. They reported that they left the area and drove into the Creekwood community. They said that when they pulled in, someone opened fire on them from another vehicle.

Anyone with information about either of these cases is asked to call the Wilmington Police Department at 910-343-3600. Information may be submitted anonymously through Text-A-Tip. Text Tip708 and the information, and send to CRIMES (274637).

66 Comments

  • guesty says:

    Put down your pipe, sober up and try posting again.

  • guesty says:

    Yes, you are rather ignorant.

  • Guest-Downtown says:

    ALE needs to step up and investigate this matter. If the patrons were from the Rhino, then pull their license at this point. Anyone can be stabbed downtown. Why were the police not watching their high tech camera system during this time, especially at this intersection where it appears fights occur nightly? They have cameras on the parking decks to monitor this area. The city has cut the police funding for downtown patrols. Why not bring in part time officers that work strictly on the weekends. They can build a relationship with the law abiding citizens and address the unruly crowds as well. The parking lot at the corner of Second and Market becomes a hang out area for the patrons from the Rox and the Rhino primarily as well as a couple of other establishments. Yes the owner of the clubs has a responsibility for their patrons after they leave after consuming alcohol in their establishments. This is one of the main purposes of the ALE. They need to confirm where the patrons were and address the responsible parties by fines, pulling their ABC licenses. Surfcity Tom you think this might fall under the “DRAM” Shop liability statue for North Carolina?

  • got your six says:

    Maybe it’s time for the Wilmington Police department to re-examine downtown laws and codes.

    It’s been reported, someone died, others were injured in late night violence in Downtown.

    Having a concealed carry permit, and a legally purchased handgun, in order to enjoy the river-walk and walk my dog, I must go unarmed.

    No thanks. Tourist may think Wilmington is fairly crime free, but the stats don’t lie.

    The few times I have gone to the river-walk, and been harassed by homeless people wanting cigarettes, and crackheads wanting money have convinced me to take my business and my dog elsewhere.

    Wilmington should take a hard look at what kind of business, and customers they are trying to attract, and adjust laws and ordinances accordingly.

    Lastly, Wilmington Downtown Inc executive director John Hinnant should stick to doing whatever it is that he does. What that is, is a mystery to me, as it goes from Ambassador’s without guns, to criticizing the ALE.

    Is it true Wilmington has no public drunkenness law?

  • Guest says:

    WILMINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES NOTHING TO HELP THE SITUATION..I PERSONALLY WITNESSED TWO COP CARS RIDE BY THE SCENE OF THE FIGHT LAST NIGHT BEFORE THE ALTERCATION ACTUALLY TOOK PLACE, AS A MEMBER OF LAW ENFORCEMENT YOU SHOULD NOT HESITATE TO STEP IN AN BREAK UP A FIGHT BEFORE IT HAPPENS. IF YOU WILL NOT STEP IN AND HELP(SEEING YOU HAVE PEPPER SPRAY, BATON, GUN,ETC…AND THE AUTHORITY TO USE ALL OF THOSE,) THEN HOW IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU EXPECT A BOUNCER TO STEP IN AND TRY TO BREAK IT UP…I PERSONALLY THINK THAT SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS DOWNTOWN COULD BE SOLVED IF THE POLICE WOULD BE MORE OF AN ASSISTANCE..WITH NOT JUST THE BLACK CLUBS THE WHITE CLUBS ALSO, AND EVEN THE MEXICAN CLUB 609.

  • Guest says:

    Dram shop laws have nothing to do with this incident 18B-121.

  • Guest says:

    Whether you know it or not, the legal age to enter a club is 18.

  • Rip Merk..u will be missed.. says:

    Someone please tell me how some of these people have the nerve to post some of these comments on here..we all no matter what our color all bleed the same and no one is better than the next..I am shocked to see that we are in 2011 and still have so much racism going on..get over it..you are no better than the next person that stands beside you..We have lost another child here and all everybody can say is oh beacause the color of his skin is why it happened?? no matter why it happened this young child has a family who is going through something that alot of us would never be able to handle..if everyone spent as much time trying to see why this happened and who is to blame instead of posting all this negativity maybe the family could at least have some closure..stop fighting with each other over stupid issues like the color of somebody’s skin and do something positive for the community to prevent something this tragic from happening..

  • Tired of the BS says:

    As an African American male I’m just embarrassed at the events that took place that night. We can blame whites for being racist well stop giving them ammunition to use against us!!! I can imagine it was a mad house down there that night with others looking at us like they’re animals. If the you don’t like the perception don’t live the stereotype. As an educated, young black male I always took pride in not living out the stereotypes associated with us as some blacks just seem to have no shame. Whites if you want to blame somebody blame these liberals who thought it was a good idea to build an urban, poor economy off black’s back in the 60s and 70s through the War on poverty with government programs. The problems blacks face today were predicted almost 40-50 years ago by Patrick Moyhinan(spelling) under the the JFK administration. His report on blacks and urban poverty predicted and stated that government programs that were targeted at black communities with no consideration to the culture of blacks would send the race spiraling down, and it did. Liberals feed off this urban economy as it provides jobs for them at the expense of everyone tax dollars, discourages blacks from improving their own situation because daddy government is there to fit the bill, and little can be done about it. Blacks say hey racism DOES exist but you have more opportunity now than ever take advantage of it rather waiting for a government issue check to come, they’re accused being white and casted out of the black community because they don’t follow the program of being a victim with no power to change their circumstances. Other races comment on the obvious they’re accused of being racist by both blacks and liberals who are upset you’re endangering their urban pimp hustle. Liberals provide excuses on why we can’t get it together so a relationship has been formed. Its said plain and simple…..

  • Guest1073 says:

    If people would police themselves, then Wilmington, USA and the whole world would be wonderful. People need to learn how to act like adults.

  • Office Fan says:

    What in Gods name does this smdh stuff mean? I see multiple posts with this gibberish…is it some kind of gang code or something?

  • Guest says:

    Has anyone thought of putting a reasonable solution on here? WOW! I have lived in Wilmington for 40 years now and rarely visit downtown, especially at night. However, I recently went on a Saturday night just to see what all the hype is about. I was totally amazed at the amount of clubs, as well as the crowd. I saw young people so intoxicated/drugged up that they could hardly walk down the street. What came to my mind? A breeding ground for trouble. And yes, I saw police presence. Unfortunately, all 6 officers were hanging out together in one ally. Not sure how this helps with monitoring the streets. So, here are a few suggestions to offer up:

    1. Police officers just need to be assigned to certain streets, and be vigilant. Hanging out in an ally does not show a great presence.

    2. The club owers should invest in a hand-held license scanner that can network them together for monitoring patrons that may need to be banned from the clubs for a period of time.

    3. Bouncers should be trained to see trouble brewing. Don’t even wait for something to happen. Any sign of trouble….ask for a license, scan it, and place that person on the banned list for all the clubs. Then politely ask them to leave. Request police escort if necessary. If the bar owners work together on something like this then people will think twice before starting trouble in fear of losing their playground for a few months.

    4. Club owners and all workers should be trained to spot gang members and issues. Gang members will always flag themsleves in one way or another. And all races join gangs so please don’t take this as a racist comment. When you are aware of gang representations, and what gangs rival which, you will have a clue if there are potential problems in your club.

    5. Police officers also just need to start arresting folks. It may be overwhelming at first but a strong message will be sent that enough is enough.

    Meanwhile, all that visit downtown…take care and watch yourselves. Its a terrible thing when someone goes out to have a good time and winds up hurt or dying. My heart goes out to the family of the young man killed last night. Whatever the reason for the violence, it could never be good enough for a life.

  • Grand Ole Party says:

    So you saw two cop cars ride by the scene BEFORE the fight took place. So they were in the area and patroling. I am assuming you think they have the ability to see into the future? Maybe they should have stopped and just stood there for a few days just to see if MAYBE a fight might break out in the near future. Can you really be that stupid? Hey I know, maybe cops should have to just work in the bars all night and clean up after idiots such as yourself. Screw the rest of the city right???? They are not babysitters. If you morons can’t go out and have a drink without acting like complete idiots, then so be it.

  • Guest says:

    I am African American, I’m from Wilmington but moved away many years ago..I do come home to visit family but I do not like to stay there long. When I come home to visit, it is so depressing. I was raised in Creekwood and I always made a promise to myself I wouldn’t become a product of my environment. And as for those that say it’s how you’re raised? No it’s not…I was raised with no dad and had a mom strung out on drugs. I didn’t turn out bad at all…I went to college, got my Degree, got a good job, and left Wilmington. We as blacks are killing one another, and it be over some stupid stuff. Wilmington have all these so called Gang wanna be’s such as bloods and crips..that’s what this fight was all about. Bloods against the Crips, which are all BLACK GANGS!! Don’t go around blaming the caucasians, the police, or the media for what we are doing to ourselves!! It saddens me that we as African Americans can’t get along with one another!! Will this violence ever end????

  • Guest says:

    What’s venemous about this reporting? As a civil human being my heart does go out to the loved ones who commended a son, brother and father to a premature eternal rest.

    But, the cold, hard and callous fact remains that there are conditions in our city’s downtown that do make it unsafe. I appreciate the news coverage of these events. The knowledge from this reporting tells me to stay away. WWAY told us, the public what this really was, a gangland murder.

    I’m sorry that some gangsta “five star general” got shanked, BUT, better him than me.

  • Guest10 says:

    You’d be the first to scream foul too when someone gets roughed up be the police. Society is also responsible for their actions.

  • GuestLee says:

    You said the police rode by the scene of the fight BEFORE the altercation took place. Do you expect them to have ESP that a fight was going to break out? If they used pepper spray, baton, gun, etc. BEFORE the fight broke out, everyone would be screaming that the police were racist. Quit blaming the police and put the fault where it belongs… on those who started the fight. Kids today need to learn more self control, period.

  • Guest says:

    How dare any of you comment on TAARON!You dont even know him!!At the end of the day someones mother has to burying her son!!He was a brother and great friend!!No matter what he did in his PAST he still was human!!We all make mistakes and do wrong..BUT NOBODY SHOULD HAVE TO DIE LIKE HE DIED!!NOBODY!!HIS FRIENDS WATCHED HIM TAKE HIS LAST BREATH!!WHAT WOULD YALL HAVE TO SAY IF THIS WAS YOUR FAMILY??COME ON NOW!!LETS GET SERIOUS

  • Commonsensenotcommontoday says:

    Thanks for telling the truth. Perhaps you will have more credibility than this old White guy.

  • Guest says:

    we tolerated high crime rate downtwon for too long–when will we act?

  • Guest says:

    Who says they haven’t tried? It’s not as easy as everyone thinks. The police can show all the evidence they want to show on how bad these clubs are but it is not their call to shut them down so don’t blame them. What’s ignorant is people commenting on things they have no idea about!

  • Guest says:

    So an officer breaks up a fight and then takes the kid to jail for fighting. That takes one of your police officers you want so badly to be downtown away from downtown for at least an hour if not more for fighting. The kid will get charged, maybe spend a night in jail but probably not and then all the kid will get from the court system is a slap on the wrist anyway. Why should an officer waste his time for just throwing a few punches when there could be something much more serious to happen and then all of you people who want to blame the police will scream because there are no police downtown to take care of it. Well that’s because they are at the jail booking every single idiot who had too much to drink and saw some guy looking at his girl the wrong way so he decided to punch him in the face. You people have to make up your mind. Do you want them there for the serious stuff or not?

  • Scott Pickey says:

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  • Guest1234444 says:

    I thinketh your comment expects more of us –than some are capable of—as you said just look at the tone of comments and shoddy reporting —not to address an issue—just sleaze

  • Grand Ole Party says:

    If you live like a thug, and die like a thug, then you can expect to be remembered as nothing more than a thug. Nothing cruel about the facts.

  • Grand Ole Party says:

    I really lack the ability to understand what all the fuss is about. He was not exactly what you would consider an up standing young lad. But here is a news flash for ya cowboy, if you live your life the way he chose to live his, then yes you deserve to die the same way you lived.

  • SMBeez says:

    I do agree with the fact that the rhino has turned into a club filled with degenerates. This is obvious.
    As far as continuing the racist comments like the rest on this page, let us not be ignorant.
    Where was the police presence? If each victim was driven to the hospital by a witness at the scene. Where were the police?
    This city has helped create the problem by diminishing the size of the police presence downtown.
    The blame here is to be placed on underage people doing underage things. The victim was 20 years old, he didn’t belong in a club in the first place.
    This city needs to step up and accept responsibilty for the lack of patrolmen downtown to help keep the problems at bay.
    I am tired of the holier than thou snobs around this city that complain about downtown. Do the rest of us law abiding citizens who enjoy a night life scene a big favor, STAY OUT OF DOWNTOWN.
    We don’t need your input.
    Every level of society has crime, no one is excluded.

  • Guest1903 says:

    that a 20 year old died on account of going to a club.

  • Guest says:

    while this story is sad, what is truly disturbing is the blatent racism and ignorance displayed in these comments. disgusting. not all black people are thugs, the same way not all white people are rednecks and not all mexicans are illegal immigrants. i grew up in the south and i love it here, but the ignorance that is still so clearly prevalent here is disturbing. educate yourselves. its 2011.

  • Bouncer says:

    Listen None of you see the Violence and the bull like I see it, and every other bouncer downtown. The problem is deeper than the community sees. It starts with the police department. I cant count how many times ive seen fights break out in front of WPD officers and all they do is break up the fight and send them home. What does that teach these thugs? NOT A DAMN THING! It shows the neglect of the police department to keep order. Next its the Club owners, they all complain but yet when it comes time to do something nothing is done. Downtown is a joke. The Police watch as crowds gather in front of the parking lot on 2nd and market, and do nothing. They watch as the crowds gather in front of Rhino, and yet they do nothing. If you allow groups of any race or creed to congregate together, they are bound to have problems. As for this being a “color” related problem, i dont see it that way. I see whites fighting all the time, those fights are broken up and the aggressors are put in cabs and sent home. I understand that the police are understaffed but if you have worked downtown even one night you know where the problems are. So instead of pointing the fingers at people why dont we do something to help better downtown instead of condemning it. Police Need to step up, Security staff need to stop being lax, And bartenders need to stop serving highly intoxicated people. Lets all get on one page as Citizens and bring the glory back to Downtown Wilmington.

  • Guest says:

    not that the guy was a saint—but why bring up all this dirt in background–to provoke thought or to incite ignorant-hate filled comments–that’s the fuss and maybe we should care—about enquirer like innuendo-it brings out the worst in wilmington

  • Guest says:

    No one should have trashed a man who has died—-his past does not deserve the kind of hate engendered by this venemous reporting

  • Guestrev says:

    your feelings seem genuine–but you have a network that knew by smearing a deadman they would incite this kind of racism and hurtful comments—they want ratings–dont care who they harm in process.
    Ignore them and these c5razy comments—pity their ignorance

  • Guest says:

    facts are fair game—but hurtful comments with sole purpose of encouraging comments of bias and ignorance have no place. Like others have said pickey is pathetic, he doent care what he suggests as long as the nuts come out and comment. Arent we all weary of this koind of poor reporting—and a board filled with ignorance and bias.

  • guesty says:

    The cats are carnivores, not bottom feeders.

  • Guest says:

    So if so much violence occur near the Rhino club. Why haven’t WPD done anything to make it safer or anything? Why do something now just because a life was lost ? You would think something would’ve been done by now since its a “thugclub”. That’s what’s wrong with people these days, and by reading these comments on here it seems like people thrive on stuff like this so they can talk about the black community. You people are ignorent.

  • Guest11223344 says:

    *****ignorAnt

  • guesty says:

    If they have a heavy police presence, the thugs scream “racist” and if they are not there the thugs cry “The police isn’t doing anything.” You seem to be the ignorant one here.

  • Micky says:

    Apparently you folks don’t frequent downtown around bar closing time. Most nights it’s hard to see fewer than 10 cops down there – most of them posted between Front and 2nd on Market St. because none of the other 40 or so bars have problem crowds. I’d like to see a little ACTUAL INVESTIGATIVE REPORTING by somebody to determine the amount of man power devoted to downtown while the rest of the taxpayers don’t get their share of patrolling because clubs like the Rhino and ROX put such a drain on the WPD. All the information is public so let’s see it. Are there really just 3 cops on duty downtown most nights? No. The problem is obvious. We can blame the WPD all we want but that’s just the easy way out.

  • SurfCityTom says:

    from Teblenko’s down every night 15 minutes afte closing. Night time is their normal time for stalking game.

    That should clear the streets up rather quickly. Or, it will provide some fresh chow for the cats. And to my knowledge, they do not discriminate on the basis of color or creed when selecting the evening repast.

  • HeSaidSheSaidBS says:

    Woooww Come on New Hanover County WTF is wrong with everyone on here and this hatrid. For all the racism going on if you do your research or educate yourself al ittle on the history of WILM, it goes back to 1898 where Wilmington was ran by Highscale black folks, until the white man ran them out which lead to the Wilmington Riots and WILM 10, etc. We need to come together as a community to seek a conclusion to this problem, not a racial riot. There are men and women(black and white) fighting in Iraq DIEING for our freedom and for our country BUT DO THEY GET RECOGNIZED ??? NNOOOO. Instead of putting all this negativity online why don’t you instill it in some positive ways we can bring up the community. My heart goes out to the family of the young man that lost his life. We all bleed the same blood as well as put on our pants the SAME way.

  • Guest says:

    Where in the world do you live? You must not live in Wilmington. And to cry truth and racism shows that you are a huge part of the problem. Just walk about five – ten blocks in any direction of downtown at that time of night and get back to me.

  • Guest says:

    IT DID NOT HAPPEN AT RHINO CLUB SO PLEASE STOP SAYING THAT SMDH IT HAPPEN AT SLICE OF LIFE DOWN TOWN PLEASE YALL GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

  • D. Michaels says:

    Have you ever met a racist person that you were envious of? I certainly haven’t. Let them spew their hatred, they live miserable lives.

  • Guest21 says:

    you only have to be 18 to get in the clubs downtown actually not 21

  • GuestLee says:

    I’m sorry, but you are not going to change prejudices and hatreds that have been engrained in these people for many, many generations. They grew up on it, they live with it, and they’ll die with it. There is nothing you can do about that, and giving them attention in these posts is only fueling their hatred and justifying their feelings to themselves. Since you cannot change that, my next best suggestion is to work on the African American race itself and prove them wrong. Parents, get more involved in your children’s lives. Know where they are at all times, and who they are with. Only when parents change their attitudes will some of these kids get on the right track. Invest time in your kids. It will pay off big later. When does the insane killing stop? Aren’t you so tired of it all? Haven’t too many lives been wasted? It’s time to step up to the plate and make a change, and it begins with YOU.

  • Shana says:

    It amazes me how ignorant and prejudice some people still are in the year 2011. Why is it that when a young black African American is killed in a fight or any other instance that it is because they are 1. Black and 2. Guilty. Newsflash, none of you all knew this individual to judge him of his character or were involved in the incident to know if he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. For one of the comments to state that blacks should be BANNED from going to clubs, or Black clubs should not operate downtown is beyond racist. I happen to be a BLACK, college student at one of the most prestigious universities on this planet and when I go home (i.e. Wilmington) I sometime go out to these same clubs that I supposedly should be banned from. Im not involved in any gang nor illegal activity yet from these responses I am just as guilty as the rest of my race because I am BLACK. Now that sounds like a bunch of BullS**t to me. Dont STEREOTYPE or GENERALIZE a RACE when you no nothing about it but what you see on TV, or how the NEWS and NEWSPAPER depict my RACE. That is not the entire story. That 20 year old guy was somebodies son, bf/gf, grandson and friend and he didnt deserve to die like that regardless of the situation. And barring blacks from clubs is not only ignorant but is a violation of the 14th amendment under OUR constitution. All of the persons who blame parental involvement in determining the outcome of their off springs, please read a book and become educated on child development. Statistics are only the half of it. Guns and Knives kill people, not the way their parent/s raised them.

  • Guest says:

    I am a bar owner downtown and you hit the nail on the head.

  • Guest says:

    Define “thug” in your own words?

  • Guest says:

    Yes!!! Well said. I wish you would run for Mayor…seriously.

  • guesty says:

    You are correct that I really don’t care because you won’t catch me at thugclub. If they want to kill each other, good. One less thug to rob an innocent person. I like the idea from the old movie “Escape from New York” where all criminals are dumped to fend for themselves. Maybe they would feel at home then.

  • Guestofmoomoo says:

    Care? Did you say “care”?

    Of course the oh-so-special downtown movers and shakers care. They care about the dollars and cents.

    If it were only legal, they would fill up the downtown streets with crack/cocaine cafes.

    Crack/Cocaine Cafes in our lovely *Downtown* Wilmington? If only crack/cocaine were legal! If only!

    What a money-making idea for downtown entrepreneurs!

  • Wade griffis says:

    Does anybody remember that famous quote?

    Commonsense.com and several other posters have comments that I find interesting.

    What I do not find interesting is that 99% of posters do not have the courage to post their real name. I do. I do not hold myself up to some kind of moral paragon. If the fireworks start I will be ducking.

    But, if we are going to reccomend that black people quit killing each other(which I think is a really good idea) we should probably suggest that white people quit killing each other.

    I have 3 ex-wives and really understand why white people should not kill each other.

    I use my real name and ex-wife number one found me on the net.

    Maybe using my real name was not the smartest move of my life. We will see.

    She has weathered the years a lot better than I have.

  • Guest says:

    Soooo amusing? The WPD and the City hate that their are so many bars downtown. They’ll do everything in their power to close them and prevent them from opening. As I write, I know for a FACT that they are denying applications for ABC permits.

    So my question to you, as well as the organizations I mentioned above is this: What else do you propose fill those empty spaces once the bars are gone? Bars employ people. People spend their money. This is good for the economy.

    You think dark windows on Front St during the day are bad, because their are bars behind them that only open at night? What are you going to think when the windows are dark day and night because nobody can afford to put any other kind of business in there?

    Maybe we can hope that we’ll get another Life’s Good store, or perhaps another doggie clothing store, or maybe a year round Sand Art storefront so that we don’t have to just wait for the big seasonal downtown events to pick up our tourist garbage. OR, maybe we can tempt some more restauranteurs to open up a place they can’t afford in a city that has a restaurant for every 20 people. Maybe more professional offices? Businesses are just thriving now aren’t they. I’m sure everyone who has space in a a reasonable priced office park would just be dying to move downtown. Do you have any idea what the rent costs on those places? Probably not.

    Wilmington could have been a miniature Charleston with similar charm? Interesting. Based on what? The size of the city? What about the size of the population that would support it? Maybe we could have a miniature Charleston based on a miniature calendar year. One in which the entire area is sealed off for 8 months out of the year, only opening for the 4 months of heavy seasonal traffic. I think this is probably closer to the solution that you, the WPD and the City of WIlmington have in mind.

    Nobody with any appreciation of running businesses would say, or legislate based on, the ideas that you’ve said. No more bars! Only knick knack shops who are willing to pay $4k, $6k, $8k, $10k need apply! You’re right, with deals like that, there’s no way we’d have any dark windows in downtown. Oh, and we can’t forget that this is OUR downtown and we’ll never let Banana Republic have a shop here! Why would we want their advertising and marketing, or their taxable revenue on our streets?

    So here-here ‘Guestaholic’, you’ve nailed it. Bars and booze are the problem (of course having 3 cops work the streets at 2am when the bars get out isn’t a factor). We must remove them and allow for more retail shops which can afford $4k+ per month in rent, in the midst of terrible economic state when people aren’t spending their money. We must make it a retail destination that is not ‘on the way’ to anywhere that anyone is traveling, in a town that’s peppered with other retail opportunities at every single turn. So thank you for your wise and thoughtful Bars, Bars, Bars, Alcohol, Alcohol, Alcohol posting, Stupido! Get the picture? You’re probably not capable, are you?

  • Guest says:

    I am a firm believer in that it doesn’t matter what color you are, crime is commited by everyone. Stop pointing the finger at black people and remember that when pointing that finger, 4 more at pointing back at you. We as a community are not perfect and it’s 2011. When did the color of our skin dictate what our futures are going to be?

  • guesty says:

    Where I mentioned a person’s color in my postabove? I know that some white boys go to that club as well. And they are equal “thugs.” The color of skin doesn’t dictate your future, your choices do. And these punks are making wrong choices.

  • Guest says:

    If it was a haven for thugs who only want to kill someone then someone would have been killed a long time ago. This has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the Rhino club at all!!! The people were fighting over something way bigger than a club. I am there every night they are open and problems like this are very rare. This was just something that happened and yes its sad but there was nothing anyone on staff of the club could have done to stop it and the club isnt what started it. Maybe WPD should have gotten off their butts and tried to stop the fight instead of watch. Because thats all they did. They were there when the arguing started, way before the boy got stabbed. They are here to serve and protect even if it means risking their lives for others and they did nothing even close to that last night.

  • Guest says:

    I cannot believe they can keep that place open. It’s a haven for unruly thugs who have zero regard for human lives. It’s a cesspool of prison gang type mentalities who will kill anyone in an instant. Ya think something needs to be done? I do. Disgrace.

  • Port City Veteran says:

    I left Wilmington back in 1998. Every time I go back its for a funeral from a shooting death. What is really going on in the city these days, I can’t believe this is the place I grew up. Looking at these comments on here….if it is these young african american males causing all these issues downtown…we need to take accountability for are people. This is not about race-if is where Mexicans ripping stuff up we wouldn’t them downtown either.

  • Guest says:

    Saffo is right–we need to maintain adequate size police force to reduce chance of more repeats

  • guesty says:

    Since the Rhino Club caters to thugs, don’t be shocked when it goes bad. Not much of a surprise of yet another problem with thugclub. How long before they can be shut down as a nuisance?

  • Guestaholic says:

    The promoters of *Downtown* Wilmington are sooooooo amusing.

    Downtown Wilmington has bocome a tacky stipmall of bars, bars, bars and tattoo parlors. Walk down Front Street during the day and take a look! Block after block of dark, dirty bar windows.

    Wilmington could have been a miniature Charleston with similar charm. But NO!

    The leadership allowed a congestion of bars to take over and rule the downtown scene. How I hate it!

    It’s the bars, stupidos! Bars, Bars, Bars, Alcohol, Alcohol, Alcohol!

    Get the picture?

    No, you probably don’t. You don’t really care, do you?

  • Wade griffis says:

    Guns don’t kill people. People kill people. Knives kill people. If they did not have guns or knives, maybe they would use slingshots. It worked for David in the “David and Goliath” story.

    My point in this is that the guy who wanted to have uniformed, but non armed security people down there was an idiot.

    How many times have we seen that club in the news regarding problems? I have not kept count but would say, “Many Times !”

    The solution is simple. Close the thing down!

  • Das Weibstück says:

    Downtown is such a dump thanks to these bars. Way to go ILM.

  • SurfCityTom says:

    for the ABC commission and the City of Wilmington to pull some licenses and cause the doors to be shut?

    Considering the Commission and City Council both include African American members, it will be hard for the Owner to pull the race card.

    Or, is this the new method for population control?

    And the witnesses pulled into Creekwood. WHA, get off your duff and start screening out the bad elements.

  • Guest says:

    There was not enough focus in his talk about how he will address ongoing crime issue in city downtown–short term council must do so.

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