ONLY ON 3: Wing Fling ABC permit denied, event left homeless


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Submitted: Wed, 03/16/2011 - 9:05pm
Updated: Thu, 03/17/2011 - 4:39pm By:

WILMINGTON, NC (WWAY) — Problems for a long-standing Wilmington event. WWAY has learned the 15th Annual Wing Fling scheduled for March 26 may not have a home.

It was supposed to be on the property just north of the PPD building in downtown Wilmington, but Wilmington Police decided not to recommend the location for an alcohol permit. That led the ABC to deny the permit request.

The dean of UNCW’s Cameron School of Business has contacted New Hanover County on behalf of Pi Sigma Epsilon, a student marketing fraternity sponsoring the event, about other possible locations. The event had been held at the county’s Hugh MacRae Park for years. The Parks Board rejected a request to have the event at the park again in 2010 because neighbors complained of parking problems and law enforcement responded to several fights.

The fraternity’s faculty sponsor Lynnea Mallalieu says the group is still hoping to get things worked out with the city.

The event was held in Battleship Park last year. Mallalieu says it cannot be held at UNCW because events involving beer and students are not allowed on campus.

52 Comments

  • Dale Rash says:

    Dale Earnhardt Jr. has been to 3 outta the last 5 wing flings. He loves it. He has thrown his support behind it. Skuuuuweeeee! SR. would be proud that his boy is eatin wings and drinking cold ones.

  • Guest says:

    To all of you crying about the wing fling I have a few questions for you. If it’s a UNCW event then why is it not held at UNCW? My guess is because they don’t want it. The wing fling was at Hugh McRae Park for years and then they were told that they were not welcome back again because of the problems with the crowd. Last year it was at Battleship Park and they were told not to return again because of the problems with the crowd. So why in the world should the City of Wilmington let the Wing Fling happen inside their city limits? Once again it is the crowd destroying a good event and then crying that the government should relax and let the function go on because it has gone on for years. I have gone to the Wing Fling before and have stopped going because of the crowd, and yes I do live in Wilmington and I don’t want my home town known for a drunken feast because people do not know how to behave. A good rule of thumb is if you would not do something at your own house don’t do it at someone else’s house.

  • Guest says:

    You got dat right boy!

  • Guest says:

    but not in Wilmington…moved locations.

  • Guest says:

    because you can’t drink in the middle of campus like every other school?!?!

  • Student says:

    Okay 1. It’s not at a house it’s outdoors and 2. the event brings in plenty of revenue for local bars, restaurants, and hotels in the wilmington area. Also, as a campus we are one of the few schools in the nation WITHOUT a football team. Who wants to go to school without the typical college saturday game day? Kids who love events like full tilt and wing fling (and the awesome beach of course). But full tilt was already taken away from us 2 years ago, and now WING FLING? Maybe we should just move our entire university to another city (and fun and less strict one) and let the retired yacht owners try to produce as much revenue and the type of the economy that comes along with UNCW.

  • Guest says:

    Wilmington is a college town, and it’s only getting more popular. If you don’t like it I suggest you move your old, stubborn self out of this town. Just cause you’re a stuck up oldie who can’t handle change doesn’t mean it’s not gonna happen. It’s snobs like you that give Wilmington and Americans a bad name

  • Guest says:

    Obviously you’re not buying it because you are broke. Don’t hate.

  • Wakeup Call says:

    Heres what Wilmington is and truth is people are both right and wrong bout the make up of this city and the general area..

    While Wilmington is not a true 100% college town it is definitely a part of the bigger conglomeration.. UNCW is a big factor for the city both for business as well as economic reasons but ITS IS NOT The Sole focus..

    Wilmington is also a target vacation destination. For those who chose to spend money instate vs going to the more crowded reality of Myrtle BEach.Myrtle definitely is bigger vacation destination obviously but the greater WIlmington area (to include Pender and Brunswick) has many of the same adult attractions that brings no beach goers to Myrtle which is good quality Golfing (Myrtle as you know is famous for its golfing options).

    ALso Wilmington has been on the downturn slightly likely affected by the economny but reality is it earned its nickname Wilmywood for a reason with Dawsons Creek and now One Tree HIll as regular TV Productions as well as now increasing Hollywood East business such as Eastbound and Down (which will be returning for a 3rd season and likely full season this time unlike Season 2 which was in PR for most of it).

    Wilmington is actually a unique locale it really isnt fair to label it any one specific which is that it benefits from having a Division I college as well as a large 2yr JuCO in the area. It has tourism which the area benefits from 9 months out of the year (Although if you ask my wife who works at a local resort even the off season is busy some weekends) and it benefits from out of state entertainment productions (The area boasts the most experienced TV and Movie technical staffing outside of California itself). I know this is only partially on topic but labeling Wilmington as one specific TYPE of town is not fair. I mean there is even Manufacturing and Industrial here in Wilmington which I think many forget about some smaller businesses (like Dean Hardwoods) and others bigger (PPD and the Progress Energy Power Plants and the Nuclear Fuel processing plant up in Castle Hayne)

  • Guest says:

    it looked bleak but in the end things tend to work out. i thought the location was fine and things eemed to go well

  • Guest says:

    one last comment on wing fling–we may not be ann arbor but with all the other issues on crime-not having alcohol isnt a bad policy call

  • Guest says:

    Unfortunately, this was bound to happen. The Wilmington community outside of UNCW hates the university. The conservative city dwellers hate the rowdy, progressive college kid. They always have and will. The marketing fraternity is doing everything in their power to control and effectively administer this program. They have done a great job too. The reason it won’t happen is because the Wilmington community has no rapport with UNCW.

    Reading the comments below, all I hear are students advocating for their rights as students and then locals advocating their rights as citizens. City dwellers, let them have their Wing Fling. If you got a problem with it, then just don’t come. College students are going to drink no matter what. Your problem isn’t with them. I would be encouraging you to write your local representative to get more law enforcement to do something about the gang violence, drug dealing, and illicit behavior that goes on within Wilmington rather than worrying about this. I would also advise you worrying about the city’s procurement of a business district and more jobs because right now you have the most well educated wait-staff in America.

    My point is that why fight against an event that promoting a marketing fraternity, local business, and fun. If Wing Fling has offended you in anyway I am deeply sorry. I am sure that you never wanted to drink in college either and now that you own a home close by it is going to hurt you in some way.

    Until the community and UNCW can start embracing each others goals, there is really no hope for either of us.

  • Former UNCW student says:

    Your comment makes me laugh so much. Unauthorized Raves????? Your entire comment has nothing to do with Pi Sigma Epsilon and the Wing Fling that we have put on for 15 years. The event ends at 4pm every year and we have over 100 memebers cleaning, breaking down, and clensing the area. You might think that you know what you’re talking about…..but you dont. I remember putting on the event last year and we donated over $15,000 to WRAPP and UNCW scholarship programs, on top of winning #1 chapter in the nation because we conduct our event and fraternity as a legit business. On top of all of this, every year we have had it we would go door to door in surrounding neighborhoods to let them know the event was taking place. Please get your facts right and dont just post rants cause you dont have the audacity to do it in real life.

  • justin says:

    Exactly – and I do mean exactly- how much money was raised last year for “needy children and university scholarships”? Surely someone can ask (the media) and answer (the fraternity) that simple question. According to the website, Fling officials said they were “barely meeting costs” when they sold beer at $2.00 for a 16oz can. This year, the price has jumped to $2.50 a can, with wine available for $5 a glass. Something ain’t adding up…

  • Guest says:

    Community event? Only if you can afford the entrance ticket or if you’re over 21 years of age! So tell me, how much money is actually going to scholarships after you pay for all the Port-o-Lets, extra police security, traffic control and event/ticket coordinators? Sorry, I ain’t buying it…

  • Former UNCW Student says:

    It isn’t at UNCW because there is a thing called Insurance umbrellas that every event held anywhere must have. UNCW legally isn’t allowed to catter to or insure events that have alcohol present. I was a member of this marketing fraternity and UNCW would love to have this event on campus if they were allowed to. The issues at hand we never about the crowds LOL…..you have been mis-informed by someone that has no idea what they are talking about. How is this event any different that Beer Fest, Downtown Sundown, or Fult tilt (another UNCW event). The point of any event is to be successful and get as many people out which shows there support for what we were doing, which is donating $15,000 + to WRAPP (which is a local Boys and Girls club started by a wonderful man in wilmington) and UNCW scholarship programs. Some people are not responsible and that is understandable, but your lashings at this event are irrelevent (sorry). Also your rule of thumb makes no sense……. the event has never been held at a house because people wouldn’t invite 6000+ people to there house, thus we make an enviornment where everyone can hang, listen to some good local music, and support all the local businesses that have been supporting us for years. Obviously you just have no social life…..so please dont comment on feed that pertain to it.

  • Former PSE Member says:

    Last year it was around $15,000 to WRAPP (a boys and girls club created by a local) and UNCW Scholarships.

  • Guest-of-the-day says:

    we had to put up with their unauthorized “raves” in our neighborhood for years, they’d park on our lawns, peel out down the street when they were leaving at 3AM, not to mention the mountains of trash littering the street EVERY DAY (they were having these 7 nights a week!)… I came out one night to find a young lady urinating right in our yard UNDER the street light while her friends all stood around a few feet away. Kids nowadays have no breeding and are nothing like kids were a generation ago. They all need to attend AA meetings as far as I can see; they’re a bunch of drunks…

  • Bub Rubb says:

    That’s only in the morning… You should be up cookin breakfast or something. It’s that woooo woooo, it’s the whistles dogg.

  • BGS says:

    Wilmington is a college town like it or not. There are two colleges within 10 miles of each other, and wilmington is not a huge town to begin with. There is nothing you can do with the consuming of alcohol. People will get drunk at the beach and the beach bars and spill out late night looking like a mess. People will go downtown causing a scene being drunk and this will go on for years to come. There is nothing you can do about it! And I believe this is terrible what they are doing because it is only provoking an all-out drunk fest ALL OVER the town of wilmington for that day instead of a confined area. People that have purchased tickets and have planned a small vacation will still come and will still plan to drink. So the only thing you are doing is puting more pressure on our police force to keep people safe. Lets think. would it be easier to look over drunk people in one area or all over the town of wilmington? It is plain and simple… Wilmington is a college town and forever will be with its growing reputation and increasing student enrollment at UNCW. If you don’t like it THEN GET OUT!!!!

  • Allen Galifinakas says:

    Don’t even look at it. Don’t think about it. I will hit an old man in public.

  • Wooderson says:

    I know you heard about the party gettin’ busted. But don’t worry… 2 kegs, party at the moon tower.

  • C-Tobes says:

    I wish I knew what they were going to do with those port a pottys. I was looking forward to them. Aint nothing in there that aint been on myself before ya know. I saw a girl last year get so drunk that she dropped her Budweiser in the toilet. I believe she was a sorority girl.

  • Guest says:

    2011 Budweiser Wilmington Wing Fling is a community wide event that is put on by hard working students in Pi Sigma Epsilon, a marketing and sales fraternity that as of 2010 stands as the TOP CHAPTER IN THE NATION. The event known as Wing Fling helped last years members compete against schools from around the nation for school recognition and personal pride, not to mention the education involved!

    Every year, Budweiser gives PSE a large check to help support Wing Flings efforts and sponsor an event that 100% helps the community and students learn.

    This year is it located on the river front in downtown Wilmington, not next to a residential neighborhood!

    Just to throw some stats at those of you who complain and yet never attend…

    75 portable toilets were rented for the event supporting a local business

    15 Sheriff’s officers were hired for security and crowd control, purchased by PSE, not tax payers.

    12 Event Staff were hired from a national company to help ticketing and checking ID’s

    Over 15 local businesses donated 2,000 wings per company to the event to help promote their business and hope to be crowned best wings in Wilmington.

    Local bands showcase their talents and provide entertainment for local people and those who traveled from near and far for this yearly event.

    AS FOR BEER! – last year the policy changed to purchasing beer at the location, no BYOB. This change created a safer environment and limited the amount of alcohol consumption within the event.

    On a personal note,” Kids nowadays have no breeding and are nothing like kids were a generation ago.” That quote makes you the parent of someone who is of this age you complain about. The community can only hope that you are not one to contribute to your very complaint.

    Help the community and help the students! MAKE WING FLING HAPPEN THIS YEAR!

  • Guest says:

    Wing Fling is an event that is held for 5 hours on a Saturday once a year, I’m not sure what you having to deal with people partying 7 days a week is about but WF is not the reason for that. Wing Fling raises more money for charity one day a year that most other Wilmington events combined.

  • Guest says:

    Wilmington is NOT a college town. Go to cities such as Ann Arbor, Chapel Hill, Columbia, Those are college towns.

  • UNCWParent says:

    Not to mention that this event also gives UNCW students an opportunity to get some real world experience by planning this event.

    Support Education at UNCW!!!

  • Guest says:

    Our daughter was in PSE two years ago and worked on getting restaurants for Wing Fling. I saw the work that went into her task. I know MANY other PSE members worked diligently for months planning Wing Fling. I have attended Wing Fling for the past three years and it is a wonderful event. My husband and I stay in a hotel, eat at restaurants, shop, and visit other attractions – in other words, spend money in Wilmington. The members of PSE and their advisors have done everything possible to comply with regulations and avoid problems. Please do not punish the students who have worked to plan this event. Do not stereotype Wing Fling attendees as drunk college students. My husband and I are much older than that – our children have graduated from college.

  • Guest says:

    Wing Fling is a great event that I had the privilege of attending while I was in school at UNCW. It’s always been for a great cause and always had a great turn out every year. Former Wilmington Residents, UNCW Alumni, and Cape Fear Alumni make the trip every year from where they live now to attend because it is so much fun. I also know countless people that invite their friends from all over the state and country to make the trip down to ILM for Wing Fling. Besides charity it brings in tons of money to the small businesses around Wilmington for the weekend. Wilmington doesn’t have any other festivals that draw as much profit from it’s ticket holders. Everyone knows the Azalea festival sucks, but hey even the young crowd still supports it. UNCW is even one of the sponsors for the event (gotta love increased tuition for those random fees). As far as drinking goes in Wilmington people just need to relax a little. Parents don’t be a bad parent and teach your kids the responsibility of drinking. Fess up and don’t act so uptight, all that causes is your kids to abandon your morals and start smoking crack and shooting up. Stop pointing fingers and do something about it if you have that big of a problem. UNCW students proposed a year round bus system several years back that would bus kids to the beach and from downtown to decrease the chance of students getting behind the wheel. That of course got shot down. Church’s in Myrtle Beach offer their van services during Senior Week to help get High School students back to their hotels safely. They don’t preach to the students they simply offer them a safe alternative to driving and encourage them to make good decisions. Alcohol is something that Americans consume no matter how old or how young they are it’s their choice. It can’t and won’t ever be stopped, but you make the consumption of it safer by putting in safeguards. Canceling Wing Fling is probably the stupidest thing for a town that is already hurting economically. And for everyone that keeps bashing it saying its a fraternity sorority thing. The fraternity that runs it is a coed business fraternity. Don’t confuse them with the normal GREEK life that buy their friends and spend their daddy’s money. Read a book sometime and stop being ignorant they are nothing alike. People come to Wilmington to vacation where they relax and party. It may not be a college town but it is definitely a party town. That’s just what happens in a beach atmosphere you let loose. I hope Wilmington sacks up and stops whining and being sissy’s over this. Well let me just quote the late-great Colonel Sanders, who said…”I’m too drunk to taste this chicken.”

  • Guest says:

    Why don’t you stop being a five year old, cause that’s how you sound sitting one here whining like a little girl. Just because some people get out of hand doesnt mean a majority of us do. People get too drunk no matter where you are, whether it’s Wing Fling or any other bar on any night, next your gonna suggest they shut down all those to, this is a college town so why dont you move on outta here cause this is a college town and it’s only gonna get worse for you

  • justin says:

    Wing Fling turned into a drunken yuck-fest over the past few years…you can’t blame the city or county from wanting to distance themselves from the event. Let the UNCW fraternity foot the bill for a “neutral” location and see if they can keep the folks in check. My guess is Wing Fling will die a fast death if no alcohol can be consumed…and is that such a bad thing?

  • GuestBeer? says:

    This is the problem with ILM. No beer sales at the boring Azalea Festival, only in designated areas. No beer sales at ANY function now. What’s the big freaking deal. If people get out of hand there will be plenty of police to accomadate such behavior. Other cities do it such as Savannah, Richmond, Atlanta, and Myrtle Beach. Bunch of sissys’.

  • GuestFaye says:

    Selling beer or giving it away at public places should never be allowed. Children are usuall around and that sets a bad example for t hem. The Wing Fling should be able to go on with out the beer. Having beer at downtown events again where children are should not be allowed. Think about what kind of example you are giving to the children of the world.. What they do in other cities doesn’t mean we have to do it…

  • Guest says:

    a great event for years 1-4 then it went downhill. Turned into a drunkfest with participants having total disregard for those around them. People doing beer bongs, throwing cans, etc. This pretty much holds true for the chili cook of and beer fest too. A bunch of people who can not seem to control their alcohol intake and then act like fools. There has never been a big police precense at these events. Used to be just rent a cops. Always a few that ruin it for the majority.

  • coastalconnection says:

    Just another COW attempt to prevent people from coming downtown. As the stores close every other week because of lack of customers, why not let events like this happen. When people come downtown they spend money with the vendors and restaurants, pay pay COW taxes! And, based on the city’s budget, they need the money. But that’s okay, just impose a central business district tax and watch more stores close.

  • Michael Erdman says:

    THIS IS ALL BRYSON SIEMON’S FAULT!!! HE DID THIS! IMPEACH SIEMON!!!

  • Micky Cincy says:

    Bryson Siemon would never do this to his constituents!! He is a loving and caring man!

  • Guest678 says:

    I am personally glad they aren’t at Hugh MacRae Park anymore. The drunks would spill out onto Oleander trying to get to there cars by the school. It was awful. They need to find a field way out of town to hold this thing or just don’t drink.

  • Inda Windigoes says:

    A direct contributer in 10% of all deaths.

  • Guest says:

    There is a reason that prohibition didn’t last…

  • rocketdog says:

    At least three people on here have referred to “children” being around alcohol as a reason to not have these fundraising events.
    Who invited these children? Let’s look at the PARENTS who bring their kids to events with alcohol…get a sitter, stay home, DON’T BRING YOUR CHILDREN to stuff like this. There are plenty of family friendly events held every weekend that don’t have alcohol. The Wing Fling is a fun event that raises money for worth cause, if it isn’t held this year who is being hurt the most? Well, thank goodness the kids will be safe.

  • Guest says:

    Wing Fling isn’t Wing Fling without beer. If you don’t want your kids around alcohol at public events then keep them locked up at home sheltered and see what happens when they get to college. They won’t last a semester.

  • Benjamin Moss says:

    Who cares about the kids? Maybe you should be a better parent and teach your little brats about alcohol awareness. I bet you don’t do anything. You expect the school to do that because you’re lazy. IT’S YOUR responsibility. Kids are going to drink regardless if you try to stop it. When was the last time you saw a group of kids roamin downtown? Not effin never, that’s when.

  • guest says:

    so you are saying they should not sell beer at restaurants since children are present???? stop selling beer at sporting events because children are there???? It is a 21 and older event!!!! this is rediculous. How is wing fling any different than tailgating at any sporting event!!!!

  • Guest says:

    Attention to those who do not know about the 2011 Wilmington Wing Fling… Go to the event website where its very clearly says “THIS EVENT STRICTLY 21+”

    No children are allowed.

    Wilmington Wing Fling raises tons of money every year and 100% is donated to a local charity of deserving “youth” and scholarships for students at the university.

    If you’re worried about the children, go to Wing Fling and spend a few bucks on beer, wings, and live entertainment and know that it goes directly to those who need it more than we do.

  • Guest says:

    Part of the problem is that people commenting on Wing Fling do not know what they are talking about! Wing Fling is a 21 and over event. CHILDREN ARE NOT ALLOWED! If you have actually attened the even in the past few years, you would know that fights, throwing of cans, etc., have not been an issue. The event no longer allows people to bring in their own alcohol. Bags are checked carefully and coolers are not allowed. The PSE Frat and their advisors have done everything possible to make this a better event. The focus is on music, food, and friends. Yes, people drink beer -but those people are 21 and over and – shocker – this is legal. The majority of people attending have a designated driver to pick them up or they hire a taxi. I have attended for the past three years. I actually know what goes on at the event. Imagine that!

  • Wing Fling Supporter says:

    Not only is it an event with beer, but it also has live music, and least we forget, the wings.
    To beer sales: How is it that only in America are people as ignorant as you are about beer and wine? In every other country in the world beer and wine are sold or offered at every event. Some countrys even the children are given the beer and wine at the events. Beer and wine are not bad examples, passing on your ignorance is a bad example.
    We need to stand up and fight this. I for one will show up at the wing fling location on the date and sit there with my cooler, if need be, and my packed lunch and enjoy my right to drink and eat wings. This should not stop everyone from showing up and drinking beer anyways! Let the City of Wilmington know that they can not stop tradition!

  • Guest says:

    The problem is not the beer. Pay attention. The problem is the immature people (not all of them are college kids) that can’t control their drinking. And by the way they are not allowing coolers anymore. I quit going bc of the dumb***es out there that decided it would be fun to throw FULL beers into a crowd of people and then fight about it. Its turned into a joke and a drunk fest. It was fun until people started abusing it. I can’t tell you how many drunk people I have personally seen get in their car and drive away from Wing Fling. Until people grow up and become mature enough to be responsible deny them the permits.

  • Gary Alcoholic says:

    What!

    A social event with no alcohol!

    There’s no such thing as a gathering of any kind in Wilmington unless the celebrants are drunk as skunks.

    Bring on the beer, and bottoms up! And remind the city to supply lots of puke buckets, cause we’re gonna need ‘em.

    Now where did I put my car keys?

  • Guest says:

    get a life…

  • Guest says:

    If you had attended last year you would have seen the dramatic changes that took place to make the event safer and less of a “drunk-fest” last years event took place with no issues. Once it was no longer BYOB there were not the drunk people throwing FULL cans around and fighting over it.

  • Bryson Siemon says:

    Representative Erdman, you know you are one of the main reasons for this happening. My fellow councilmen have tried to in fact EXPAND Wing Fling the past few years. This is classic mudslinging by Erdman, he is nothing but a West Baltimore thug politician.

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