Wilmington Housing Authority approves $66,000 for grills and picnic tables at public housing

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Submitted: Wed, 07/27/2011 - 3:21am
Updated: Wed, 07/27/2011 - 1:25pm

WILMINGTON, NC (WWAY) — The Wilmington Housing Authority approved spending $66,000 on community amenities including barbecue grills for public housing units, but are also allowing residents to own their own grills.

Housing Authority CEO, Michael Krause says with the community grills, people will be less inclined to purchase personal grills, therefore cutting down on the fire risk.

Only one of five commissioners voted against the plan. A newspaper quoted commissioner Bo Dean saying, “If we’re not banning personal grills then I don’t see where this is a good investment of public dollars.”

Krause told WWAY that the money is not that much considering all the housing authority is getting. He says the $66,000 will also go toward new picnic tables, benches and dog waste sanitation stations.


  • taxpayer says:

    Email your comments to Mr. Krause. Here’s his email address:


  • Holly says:

    Just another news “flash” that allows other counties to see just how poorly New Hanover County uses the hard working folks’ tax dollars.

    Picnic tables….grills….dog waste station….NONE of which are real NEEDS…sounds like WANTS to me.

  • Das Weibstück says:

    As long as the sponges keep getting better living conditions they will never want to leave. GREAT IDEA !! not.

  • Fed-UP says:

    Why are we spending these funds for this. The poor can go to the same parks that all the rest of us go to to find a grill and picnic table. I am so fed-up with our tax dollars going to people that just don’t care and work the system against us. Every welfare and unemployment recipient should put in at least 25-30 hours per week working for the city/county to recieve a check. That way they would still have time to look for another private sector job. And that welfare/foodstamp/ check should equate to less than minimum wage. If they had to work for the money they would be more motivated to find a “real job” that pays more, instead of sitting knowing they make more collecting than working at minimum wage. They have no instentive to get off their butts! By working for foodstamps/welfare checks/ unemployment checks they could be learning valuable skills…how to landscape/ forestry, lay asphalt, repair sewers,install irrigation, paint, pour cement, weld, work on AC units, lay brick, electrical training, build, collect trash, wash sidewalks and sweep streets.I am sure there are some former teachers on the “dole” that could head up a day care service for these “workers”. Imagine how stunningly beautiful and clean our city would be if all welfare recipients where required to put in that time and how much our city would save in payrol making our city/county fiscally sound. In addition by keeping the welfare pay below minimum wage all these people would probably actually look for a better paying “job” that was easier. It would also keep them busy and help with self worth and pride keeping them away from drug running and gangland business. It is time we empower people out of poverty instilling in them pride of workmanship and work ethic. What we are doing now is continuing to create generation after generation of unmotivated sloths that know nothing other than entitlements and usery. The greatness of our country was built on the idea that if you worked hard you could succeed in America. We are becoming known around the world as the country where if you play the game right you can do nothing and get all you need from the govt./working America. Did you know only 58% of the people elegible to work in this country are currently working? 58%! We are incentivizing more and more to not work. LETS STOP THE MADNESS.

  • Guest6969696969 says:

    No-one will say it for what it is…
    Score one for the FSA, (FREE S**t ARMY).

    The Artical doesn’t mention “which” Housing project that will be recieving the benifits of OUR TAX Dollars, this nice new equipment, that; in reality is a “WANT”, not a “NEED”.
    Though, I can venture a pretty good GUESS.
    New Brooklyn Homes?

    Are these the same “Brand New” Project(s), the one(s) that recieved or came equipped with State-of-the-Art, Stainless Steel appliances?
    The same project(s) that ended up costing US; the TAXPAYERS,at the cost of 6,850,000.00 Dollars, or 142,000.00 per unit?
    Link-> http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20110523/ARTICLES/110529883?tc=ar

    Now, We, The TAXPAYERS are going to pay a ADDITIONAL 66,000.00 for BBQ grills, picnic tables & pooper scoopers?

    It can be said fairly then, WE the TAXPAYERS are on the hook for supporting the *FSA* with the following Benifits.
    1. Free/ Subidized housing
    2. AFDC/TANF checks monthly
    3. Food Stamps
    4. Subidized Utilities
    5. Subidized Child Care, (for those that qualify).
    6. Free Medical/Dental Care, in other words, *Medicade*
    A: now coming, BBQ Grills & picnic tables and pooper scoopers!
    B: NEXT on the List of *FSA*, “WANTS”, A NEW CAR from .GOV Motors? (General Motors)+ free gasoline?

    Doesn’t all this just want you to quit paying taxes, apply for all this “FREE S**t” and become what’s known as a “Leach***k”?
    One thing Wilmington Housing Authority got right is this, is the name.

    ***Robert Taylor *”ESTATES”* Indeed.

    a backstory is in order here. A Few years back. WHA decided to try to do something good for the Creekwood Residents. In places around the Project areas, the built with OUR TAX DOLLARS, Raised Garden beds surrounded/covered by steel framed greenhouses in a attempt to encourage the Residents to grow their own veggies.
    Being a avid Gardener Myself, I was IMPRESSED with the raised garden boxes with greenhouses on them, I WISH, I could have one MYSELF!
    Everyone, just venture a guess, how long those lasted?
    6 months? 1 year?
    i’ll tell you, it wasn’t even 1 Winter before they were destroyed, torn apart and the steel frames taken for and sold as scrap metal…
    How long before the new picnic tables/grills being installed, et al are destroyed?
    I’ll take the “under”..
    In additon, If the people that are recieving all these “benifits” are “POOR”, WHY, WHY? Do they even NEED Pooper Scoopers for pets!?How can they afford shots/vet bills/food etc, etc for a DOG! If they are so POOR to recieve Housing?!How can “THEY” afford or Support a DOG! Answer Me this!

  • Guestgrill says:

    …that has gotten this country into the debt situation we are in now. Frivolous spending on things that are wants and not needs.

    If these people in these housing projects can’t afford housing, how the heck can they afford dogs and all the costs associated with them? I know my animals require yearly vaccinations, monthly (expensive) heartworm treatments, food and I pay taxes on them…

    Do away with ALL of this type of spending by the federal government and we could start to pay down this debt instead of expanding it.

    New rules need to be implemented for those that file for government “assistance” like random drug and alcohol testing for everyone, proof of citizenship, no loitering after 10pm, no new vehicle purchaces allowed, no cable tv, no pets, limit on how many live in the house, limit on how long you stay there, no un-wed pregancies or cohabitation…Do this and the projects will be nearly empty. Guaranteed! Don’t like the rules? Live somewhere else.

  • Under Paid says:

    I do not understanding how residents get grills for 66,000. And most of the staff there don’t make half of 66,000. Go figure. Theyre just told theyre “incompetent”; incapable-unfit-unable-inefficient-unqualified

  • Challengetheworld says:

    This is the same man who was arrested for DWI and allowed to keep his job! Not only will the federal government pay for the grills but the food too. No, WAIT, we are paying for this BULLSH***!! I am outraged, at a time when the government wants to take on more debt! This is the kind of thing YOU DO NOT DO. This is unacceptable spending at a time that is completely unwarranted. Spending like this shouldn’t happen now or EVER!

  • Cheryl says:

    Why not just keep giving them an incentive not to wanna work! They have nice new stoves and appliances in thier homes why not use them, stoves work just as good as grills and you dont have to worry about the electricity or gas bill cause thats paid for them!! This is why we are so in debt, they approve things that they do not need! I love how Krause says ” the money is not that much considering all the housing authority is getting. He says the $66,000 will also go toward new picnic tables, benches and dog waste sanitation stations.”, really not that much, well if its not that much why dont you take it out of your own pocket, you pay for it along with the others that decided to approve this budget. This is what makes these people so lazy, they are so willing to give out all these freebies at the taxpayers expense. Start drug testing these people, make a time limit on how long they can live or recieve benefits and actually make them actively look for a job, and if they cant find one make them do all the clean up and some community service to help

  • Guester says:

    The city doesn’t have anything to do with the education budget, either.

  • Guest56 says:

    the WHA is an Authority. It is a federally funded agency and none of the money comes from the city of wilmington’s budget.

  • Guest5589 says:

    But dont forget while your paying $500 a month for your child to go to school, your hard earned tax dollars gets to foot the bill for these kids living in the projects, because thier mommy and daddy(if they have one) are too lazy to work and why should they when our govt gives them all the handouts they want!

  • omidara says:

    why can’t the city of wilmington give 66,000 to the pre-k program these little ones need this instead they are asking parents to pay anywhere from $299.00 to $500.00 a month for our childern to go to pre k this is outragous but the city can give public housing a make over , why so the gangs can take over in the housing complexes, and drugs can be sold. the city makes some really bad choices and then city complains that’s no money ,then they want to higer sales tax and city and county taxes on proporties . I really wish they city and county officals would make much better choices then this make over for housing

  • taxpayer says:

    Are we buying their charcoal as well? We homeowners, who have the unfortunate situation of having a HOA, have to pick up after our pets…the residents of Section 8 should as well. But no…they’re members of the “less fortunate” segment of society. They’re “disabled” and cannot work. What a crock!

    Mr. Krause…$66,000 may not seem like much to you given the amount you and your ilk waste every year…but to those of us who are paying the tab…it’s time for us to have some input.

  • SurfCityTom says:

    every person, 18 years of age or older, physically fit and mentally able, who does not work or attend school on a full time basis should be working 40 hours per week. They can maintain the grounds; pick up trash; perform simple maintenance and painting on the buildings; monitor the paygrounds; and do other worthwhile activities. IN doing so they will free up other WHA employees to perform more challenging work and will free up some resources for better uses.

  • guesty says:

    I’ve said that all along. In addition to time limits to receive benefits so being a life long sponge is no longer a way of life, recipients either need to be in school full time or working full time. If not doing either, you will work in the community learning a trade. They can learn painting, plumbing, heat & A/C, electrical, landscaping and basic carpentry skills. They will work alongside the maintenance guys that currently do those jobs. You don’t show up, you get evicted. Then when somebody decides to spray paint a wall that a resident just painted, maybe they will step up and stop the destruction of property knowing they will have to put in the labor to repair it.
    No cash increase because you keep having children you can’t afford in the first place, you will now have to make do with the same amount. If you are living in public housing and are convicted of a crime, everybody living in that unit is evicted. After 5 years, the gravy train stops and you are removed. That is enough time to earn a degree or learn skills that can enable you to get a job.

  • GuestLee says:

    I like your suggestions, except for these facts:

    (1) The phrase “physically fit”. Most of these losers are overweight because of all the starches and pastas that are pushed at them to stretch their food stamps and welfare checks. Being overweight equals high cholesterol, high blood pressure, diabetes, etc. So they can claim those health issues to get out of maintaining the grounds.

    (2) Being “mentally stable”. I’m afraid that about 90% of these folks fit in this category. It comes from living in the projects too long (“project mentality”), using and/or selling drugs, and gang involvement.

    (3) “Work or attend school on a full time basis”. Well, that ruled out just about everyone. If they actually did that, they wouldn’t be in a project. They would be self-sufficient.

    You had a great idea though….nice try!

  • Guest99x says:

    Great idea, Tom… you missed one point. Don’t you think that id’d be better if we reserved these jobs for the newly displaced corporate workers?

  • Commonsensenotcommontoday says:

    Now the residents can grill the steaks they purchased with their EBT cards, and if they burn themselves while grilling they can hop into their car and drive to the ER, knowing that it will be covered by Medicaid.

    No car? No problem! Use your taxpayer provided cell phone and call an ambulance.

    I wonder how long it will be before the first resident is shot because he’s taking too long on the grill? Nah, that’s silly – because no one is going to use them, and that’s because no one is going to clean them.

    Hey! You can hire a couple of city workers to visit the public housing grills weekly and clean them. Pretty soon Wilmington can have $250k in every annual budget for grill maintenance. You may have to hire another few people to claen out those dog waste sanitation stations (like they’re going to be used) and clean the picnic tables (that you better make out of steel and concrete).

    Another successful adventure in “What do we do with all this tax money we collected from the suckers?”

  • GuestLee says:

    $66,000 for backyard grills, picnic tables, benches and dog waste stations? I would think they could find a better use for that amount of money. What a waste!!!

  • Guest421 says:

    I hope this turns out to be a joke. I can’t believe taxpayer dollars going to waste like this. My guess is that most of the grills will disappear within a week, headed to the scrap yard in exchange for money for drugs.

  • Guest789 says:

    Are you freaking kidding me?? They are cutting budgets to a Pre-K program, but you can approve $66,000 for grills and pinic tables for the housing projects? If your living in a housing project why do you need animal sanitation? You apprently cant afford regular housing why do you need an animal? Iam pretty sure the house came with a stove, thats just as good, You keep giving these people incentives not to work, hell why should they the govt and state just keep giving handouts on the taxpayers bill. I think I may need to just quit my job and go on govt help seems the way to go now a days

  • GuestOMG! says:

    I am absolutely speechless! Cutting education programs and giving more to the projects? WHAT? What’s next? An olympic size swimming pool, tennis courts and a masseuse? This is weird! Are we by any chance trying to make good because of something that happened MANY, MANY years ago? Maybe? Thoughts?

  • Standing next to you says:

    1. Public housing residents should not be allowed to own pets. We have invested huge amounts of money to build, maintain, a suitable housing for the “poor”. This is one policy that would reduce wear and tear on public housing. Dog waste stations would not be needed.

    2. Grills are inherently dangerous and private ownership by someone utilizing public housing is not a ‘”necessary” risk taxpayers should have to bear. Rental apartments do not allow grilling on balcony’s.
    They are accidents waiting to happen.

    3. Are taxpayers going to be required to provide grilling tools to each resident?

    4. Public housing should be a “short-term” fix. Other than the handicapped, there should be a limit on residency time periods. People do not have a “right” to public housing.

    5. If a family member(living in public housing) is convicted of a crime, that family should be denied the “privilege” of residency.

    Most importantly, the city or county govt should have to approve any spending by the Wilmington Housing Authority, over $5000, to be accountable to the taxpayers, and reduce unnecessary expenditures in this economy. Random drug screens should also be required. Maybe even fingerprinting, we should know exactly who is in housing that we’re paying for.

  • Guest99x says:

    Here’s something to think about and it will eliminate the need for dog-waste stations…. the poor living in the projects should be compelled to barbecue their pets.

  • Guest223 says:

    If that is what is going to happen, they should be able to put one in everyone, in Wilmington’s backyard also.. Maybe they can send someone over to use them, cook for them, hell even bring the food, for us so we don’t have to get off our butts to have to do that either… WHA has turned itself into a real joke, Better save that $66,000.00 and put it to use rebuilding/refurbishing, all the new buildings that have just been put up in Wilmington for the low income people that will destroy them again.. But hey, the governments broke, and you wonder why? They can use the tables to smoke crack off of! Better bolt them down!

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