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Wilmington Mormon leader, SC voters discuss Romney and LDS faith

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WILMINGTON, NC (WWAY) -- Nearly 50 years after our country wrestled with the idea of a Catholic serving in the White House, a new question arises: can a Mormon?

GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney's wins in Iowa and New Hampshire have certainly put him on the fast track, but does his faith really matter? Many voters question his Mormon beliefs that have been under a microscope for quite some time. We spoke with a local Mormon leader as well as South Carolina voters to get their input.

"I'm OK with his faith," said Kenneth Smondrowski, a South Carolina voter. "I think a man's faith is his choice and his family's choice and it shouldn't factor into our decision for a presidential candidate."

To some, a presidential candidate's religious preference is not a top concern, but Romney's ties to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints has a few suspicious of his Mormon faith.

"They may not quite understand who we are as a church, and they might not understand our beliefs," said David Glew, the Wilmington LDS Stake President.

Glew says the church does not endorse any candidate, regardless of their beliefs.

"We don't support any particular party or candidate," he said. "We don't endorse candidates. We don't tell our members how to vote."

Romney's faith is questioned by some evangelicals. Glew says one misconception of the LDS church is that Mormons are not Christians.

"We probably have more in common with Christian faiths than most people understand," Glew said. "Jesus Christ is the cornerstone and the central member of our faith. We believe he's our savior and our redeemer."

South Carolina voters we spoke with didn't seem to care about candidates' beliefs.

"When it comes to faith, that's not one thing I look at," said Martin Goter, a South Carolina voter. "I look at actual policies they push for and what they want the government to do."

Former presidential candidate Jon Huntsman, also Mormon, suspended his campaign Monday and endorsed Romney.

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If historic orthodox

If historic orthodox Christianity means mainstream Christianity of today then I would agree that Mormonism is not historic Christianity; at least not in every doctrine. Although Mormons have much in common with other Christians Mormons also believe differently than historic Christians in some key areas. But the real questions to ask are 1) What is original Christianity? 2) Is mainstream Christianity of today the same as original Christianity?

Mormons are not supposed to be Christian because we have some doctrinal differences with other Christian groups of today. The foundation for the beliefs of these other groups is the creeds of the 4th. 5th, and 6th centuries and so on.

It is claimed that Mormons are wrong because they believe in extra-Biblical revelation and scripture. Yet much of Christianity believes in extra-Biblical creeds and councils formulated centuries after the time of Christ and the Apostles. Most of the wording formulations in these creeds cannot be found in the Bible. This is often the excuse used to exclude members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) from being Christian. It is well known to historians that Christian doctrine changed over time and across different Christian groups.

The Bible is then viewed through the lens of these creeds causing certain interpretations to be favored and other biblical teachings to be minimized or ignored. Interestingly, if you look at the doctrines of the early church fathers before the creeds, they are very Mormon-like. In a number of doctrinal areas the early Christians were good Mormons and would be rejected as non-Christian by many Christians of today.

In many areas of belief (probably the majority of areas) Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) believe the same as most other Christians. It is true that in some limited areas – some very critical ones – the beliefs of Mormons differ from other Christians. Likewise there are some major areas of difference between Catholics and Protestants and likewise between one Protestant group and the next. Every denomination could make the claim that the other groups are not Christian because those other beliefs differ from their own.

Joseph Smith taught “The fundamental principles of our religion are the testimony of the Apostles and Prophets, concerning Jesus Christ, that He died, was buried, and rose again the third day, and ascended into heaven; and all other things which pertain to our religion are only appendages to it”. (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 121).

The central belief of Mormons is that Christ came into the world as the Son of God. He healed the sick, caused the lame to walk, the blind to see, the deaf to hear, and restored life to the dead. He commissioned twelve Apostles to whom he gave authority. He suffered in Gethsemane, died on the cross, and was resurrected and will come again. He, and only He, provides the means for us to be washed clean in his blood from our sins, which sins we can never correct on our own or through our own works. If that is not Christian I don’t know what is. Christ never taught the need to believe in anything like the creeds. Those came later.

Mormon belief is very much like the teachings of the earlier Christians – before the creeds – and also matches the teachings of Christ and the Apostles. The further back in time you go the more Mormon-like Christian doctrine becomes. Mormons are often portrayed as non-Christian when we don’t believe in the later extra-Biblical creedal formulations.

The early Christians did not have the extra-Biblical creeds of later centuries. Were they then not Christian? The ontological debates and the wording formations of later centuries are not found in the words of Jesus or the words of the Apostles or in the words of the pre-creedal Christians . There is not a word about a one substance god in the Bible or in the early beliefs. If believing in the creeds is necessary to be Christian then that makes the earlier Christians not Christian – it even makes Christ not Christian.

One other interesting aspect of this topic: Some Christians claim that we must get our beliefs and doctrines from the Bible only. It is claimed that God finished his work and no longer has prophets or gives revelation. They say the Mormons are wrong to have prophets and extra scripture. Consider this: If the Bible is sufficient and no post-Biblical revelation is allowed, then the post-Biblical creeds are not necessary and are not authorized by God. If God authorized the creeds then why aren’t they in the Bible? How could they be from God if the Bible is complete, if God has finished his work, and if there is no more revelation? They are extra-Biblical and no one should be held to them as a requirement to be Christian. It is so ironic that Mormons are criticized for having extra-Biblical revelation by people who themselves believe in extra-Biblical creeds. Once one puts on the glasses of the creeds then everything in the Bible is filtered to match the creeds.

Mormons believe in original Christianity restored to the earth through revelation to new prophets. Nowhere does the Bible say that God has finished his work, that the cannon of scripture is closed. It seems ironic to us that we Mormons are accused of adding to the Bible by people who have done just that – added creeds and metaphysical definitions to the Bible. We advocate for believing original Christianity.

Dwight

It is bigotry. Definition

A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward religion.

I was a teenager at the time

I was a teenager at the time John F. Kennedy was running for president and the subject of religion came up many times in the classroom. Coming from a 95% Mormon community not once did I hear well his Catholic religion is so different from ours that I am not voting for him.

I am challenging all evangelical Christians to study the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to see if they believe in Christ. No they do not believe in the Niacene Creed which was created by a group of clergy back in the 12th century to clear up the question of who Christ was. Nor do they believe that modern revelation no longer exists. But they do believe in a God who's Son is the Redeemer of the world and he will come again in glory.

Let's look at the honesty and integrity of a candidate. What are his views on the economy, foreign policy, health care,national debt and national security. Do these views follow the Constitution and the laws of this land. Then make the educated choice of who will be the best person for president of this country for the next four years.

JFK

When Kennedy ran for President there was still some fear and ignorance about the Catholic religion lingering from fearful reaction to earlier waves of immigrants. There was a great deal of negative commentary about JFK's Catholic faith. Many people feared he would answer to the Pope over the American people and the other branches of Government. They were wrong of course. However I do not think your's is a good argument for electing Romey. He does not demonstrate honesty, integrety nor authenticity. The longer he spends under public scrutiny the creepier he appears to be. I do not care what religion a candidate believes in or practices, I'd prefer not to have to know that piece of personal information. I'd rather know what they truly believe about people, the country, and the world. Are they a true public servant or a self serving power broker.

I understood her point to be

I understood her point to be that excluding someone from political office because of religion is not a good thing. I did not see her saying to vote for Romney because of his religion. That would be a different point.

Points

She made a few points. The one with which I took issue was the implied honest and integrity of Romey. I added his extreme lack of authenticity as a good reason not to elect him as President.