Stop Titan brings in backup


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Submitted: Mon, 04/30/2012 - 2:28am
Updated: Mon, 04/30/2012 - 11:21pm
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CASTLE HAYNE, NC (WWAY)– What’s it like to live in a town with a cement plant? Hundreds of people came out to Stop Titan’s first ever Picnic in the Park to find out.

“I don’t care if they go somewhere else, they just don’t need to be anywhere near parks and water and your children,” said Alexandra Allred, who lives near a cement plant in Texas.

Even though the NC Division of Air Quality has granted Titan America an air permit many Castle Hayne residents are still fighting the would-be employer.

The message at Sunday’s event, and those who delivered it, were a little different than at just any anti-Titan rally.

“I didn’t know anything about the cement industry until I moved to my town that’s the cement capital of Texas,” said Allred. “About three months after living there my perfectly healthy boy got very sick and he was hospitalized five times in six months.”

People from towns across the country that are home to cement plants came and shared their horror stories Sunday.

Many of them believe that terrible things are happening because of the levels of pollution emitted from these plants.

“We have sick people. It’s not only cancer, we have accelerated asthma, which they finally agreed to that we have,” said Jeff Galemore, who lives near a cement plant in Kansas. “We have MS, we have kidney problems. My sister’s had a kidney transplant, there’s five in the community.”

Stop Titan members say these stories have reinvigorated their resolve and that they plan on continuing to battle the cement plant.

“It’s great for us to learn about these personal stories and to hear how dangerous it is for all of us, for our children and for our adults,” said Tracy Bruno.

“I took away that in reality it can be worse than we actually think it can be,” said Tom Mcgraw.

Sunday’s event comes days after the Southern Environmental Law Center filed a legal challenge against the NC Division of Air Quality’s permit for Titan America.

48 Comments

  • Commonsensenotcommontoday says:

    1. We are a nation that respects the rule of law, not mob rule.

    2. If Titan can meet all environmental requirements UNDER CURRENT LAW, they have a right to their permits and a right to build. The general statutes of the state of North Carolina say so.

    3. If you don’t like that, your course of action is to get the law changed. Your fight is in Raleigh. Tighten the environmental requirements in the law and you will be able to stop future heavy industry from locating in the county.

    4. Until you get those laws changed, please refer to Number 2.

  • Amazed at the ignorance says:

    I am amazed at the negative comments on here. We are worried about everyones health in the area and people are wanting facts about health issues associated with cement plant pollution. Try googling it, there is a ton of info. Money does make the world go around and you will be needing plenty of to pay your medical bills!

  • Rick Wilson says:

    Commonsensenotc,

    The people against Titan are not a “mob” or the “mob.” From what I have been told, The “Real Mob” as in The Greek Mafia is who owns Titan. Can you or will you tell me if this is true? Mob rule is what Titan does to the environment and to the people that have the misfortune to live near their plants. This is our country. We have the right to question what happens here. We have the right to demand our leaders do what’s right instead of kissing up to foreign corporations. We have the right for this whole underhanded process to be explained and to be told who will benefit from it. Follow the money and the truth will be revealed. Then and only then will we know if all the laws have been followed. Why don’t you sign your name? If you believe what you say, sign it. Otherwise you come off as a paid or worse yet, an unpaid mouth piece for Titan. So…………………for the 83rd time, sign what you say, or tell Titan to take credit for what they write. Is there a backbone, or a yellow streak?

  • mightyrebel says:

    I appreciate WWAY’s coverage of this interesting and informative event. I have to say after listening to the speakers tell their stories at Sunday’s event, we all should be concerned. Their stories are heartfelt and compelling and to hear how they must fight so hard just for the right to breath clean healthy air is heartwrenching. I found it very interesting when they talked about these polluting corporations coming to their towns and handing out money in the form of gifts and grants, getting on the town boards and in the civic groups….Because Titan is doing the same thing here. When someone who says he worked as a government inspector of cement plants for 15 years and saw every day how the regulations did not protect the communities, why wouldn’t I believe him? What motivation would he have for not telling the truth? Should I instead believe the billion dollar foreign corporation whose only motivation is the bottom line? The corporation who sues citizens for speaking out about their legitimate concerns? And refuses to answer any questions from its future neighbors? Or would I believe the mother whose perfectly healthy son got sick after moving near a cement plant – when all the medical studies say the pollution coming from those plants is known to make children sick. I am utterly amazed at some of the ignorant comments posted here. When it is their child who gets sick, their well that dries up, or their parent who dies of a premature heart attack, maybe then they will learn the facts….Unfortunately by then it will be too late

  • guesty says:

    That would take effort to accomplish and is much harder than sitting around beating on a drum.

  • Guest67 says:

    Would you care if it was going in your area? You don’t have to answer we all know the answer.

  • Rick Wilson says:

    @ Bum,

    In an earlier post you claim to be an officer and a gentleman, I am calling BS on this one. Your “natural selection” comment discounts any part of the gentleman. Also, former military officers do not hide anonymously behind keyboards and make veiled threats while supporting foreign corporations. AT least former officers that served in the military for the United States. What Titan or one of their supporters will stoop to is pathetic. Natural Selection would be you getting run over by a dump truck :-), not problems caused by the emissions from a smokestack that does not have to be there. Does the Mayor and Odom flip a coin each day to see which one of them gets you to kiss their ass for the day? Or do you multitask?

  • Beach Bum says:

    Ok Bee. Your hypothesis is Titan Cement plants cause cancer and other malignant diseases including birth defects in children. The problem with your arguement, is you do not have any supporting material for your arguement. You have not provided one piece of empirical evidence or source for the rest of the free world to review. Upon our review of your supporting materials, the free world will either condone or refute your testimony.

    What has happened, is the Stop Titan mob has played to hearts and minds of the emotionally unstable by bringing in “environmental” lawyers to attempt to slow the inevitable. They have brought in spokes people who claim that “cements plants” caused my children to be born retarded or caused their health ailments. They is no chance that it could of been the 3 packs of cigarettes or 12 pack of beers that could of contributed to their defect, right? There is not the slightest possibility, that said peoples genetics just misfired and viola, instant catastrophe, another defect.

    You threw out benzene so lets talk about it. Do you know how many vehicles are on this planet? Did you know that benzene is a by product of exhaust from said vehicles? Better be riding a bike hippocrit.

    You brought mercury to our attention…STOP EATING FISH hippie. Suprise suprise, it is in all forms of fish including shell fish.

    Last but certainly not least, Sulfar dioxide…Winner winner, chicken dinner, you guessed it…it is in every bottle of wine that is on this planet. Where is your STOP WINE movement?

    Just got you and all the other “Stop Titan” nazis 3 new crusades to march about next week.

    So, using your logic, my supporting data is “out there” for you to review and refute. Have a ball. Deuces.

  • Beach Bum says:

    Bee…You are too easy. I had this big response to your rebuttle. But, it is painfully obvious you are thinking emotionally and not logically. So another time for a witty banter.

    I will offer you this thought so you can sleep well at night…

    They call it “natural selection” for a reason and bad things happen in the world. No rhyme or reason. They just do.

    Sorry they feel they are getting the short end of the stick, but tough. No one bailed me out in the finacial crisis in ’08. No one but me making my mortgage payment. No one but me paying my bills. I don’t push off my responsibilities on to some one else or cry when life is hard. I keep waking up and fighting the good fight because I have obligations that I am finacially responsible for.

    It’s called real life. Try it.

  • Bee Smart says:

    Thanks for sparing me your full-fledged banter of “logic.” It’s interesting that you feel that you must try to make someone like myself seem too emotional and illogical in order to feel like you have a reasonable outlook on this issue. It sounds to me like you are the only one here that feels sorry for themselves because you obviously can only reference yourself and how hard life has been on you.

    As far as “natural selection” goes…that statement is beyond disgusting in the context you mean in. Children and adults getting sick, and sometimes dying, as a result of overexposure to man-made toxins is NOT natural selection. And I hope when people read your filthy, spiteful, hateful, and ignorant words, that they see what kind of people actually support industries like Titan. At the very least, I thank you for proving a point by spewing your bile.

  • Beach Bum says:

    Anytime Bee. Anytime.

    When you can show unbiased empirical evidence, so it can be reviewed, refuted or condoned, that Titan or cement plants and their by products are the sole reason a cancer is caused or some other malignant disease manifests into a epidemic, then I will hear what you have to say.

    Till then it is all emotional tyrades, shennanigans and yellow journalism at it’s best.

  • Bee Smart says:

    As said before, the evidence is out there, reflected in multiple health and environmental studies, connecting the toxins that Titan would emit into our air and water to the serious issues discussed by these people. Don’t know what else to do for you…I guess read them to you? Highlight the pertinent information for you? Explain the big words like benzene, mercury, SO2? Sorry if I sound condescending but I guess it’s catching…

  • Beach Bum says:

    Ok Rick…

    Last time, provide your credible unbiased source for the free world to review. That way, we can review for ourselves and make our own decision, either refuting or condoning your testimony.

    You see, when you make a claim or formulate a hypothesis, such as, Titan Cement is bad. You support your hypothesis with supporting material, which, is generally reviewed by others so they can refute or endorse your hypothesis. In your arguement and or testimony you have to show and or demonstrate why Titan Cement is bad or good. Get it yet? You and the Stop Titan movement are the ones with the axe to grind. So, prove your hypothesis.

    Again, I can not speak for why Titan will not engage you in public debate or forum, but I have an idea. You should take moment out of your marches for humanity and review the Art of War. You may gain some valuable insight on why and how to argue.

    What I do find provocative is how you claim to be empathetic yet ridicule those who do not agree or align with your thoughts or ideas? It is curiously amusing you claim to come from a military family upbringing and challenge my integrity or question the flag under which I served, having never served yourself, jodi boy. I say this to you and jodi’s, until you actually have the nerve…until you actually graduate boot camp and serve something other than yourself…until you actually serve in a far away land, insuring the very rights and freedoms you exercise daily; you nor anyone else are in any kind of position to question a F’n thing as far as I am concerned. Just say thanks and move along. Because those who do, do and those who won’t, piss and moan about how bad things are then cry, complain and post on forums when it’s ugly.

    If Titan Cement has the appropriate paperwork, licensing etc, then you can not keep resetting the bench marks when they meet them. How is that fair? What if your boss came in and told you, you meet whats expected, but you yourself have got to meet whats expected plus one more. Again, if the Stop Titan movement was so righteous, they would share their wealth so those who might actually need one of those 160 jobs won’t have to have one of those 160 jobs.

    So, screw you Rick and screw the Stop Titan movement. Have a nice day cowards.

  • Rick Wilson says:

    Glad you are changing the channel. Wish you would quit claiming to be what you are not. Wish you would stop trying to take credit for something you had no part of. Hiding in a cyberspace foxhole makes you a coward. The facts are out there, you just choose to ignore them. You shout, lie, threaten, and when all else fails, you change the channel. Typical of all that is Titan. Good-bye and good riddance. What are you going to claim to be next week, an Astronaut, or maybe a double naught spy? The spy would be more in line with your invisible persona. The Nazi reference is laughable, if you are intelligent enough to study history, you will find this is what you and your crew resemble. You blame the poison spewed from a massive smokestack on natural selection, sorry, but you missed the intelligence train. Enjoy your other channel, goofy and dumbo will be more you speed.

  • Guest9087685 says:

    I totally think that this is unbelivable! they should go to some deserted place instead of where there are 1000’s of people susceptible to these toxins!!!

  • Beach Bum says:

    You did not answer the question and are trying to double talk. What I have not done is hire “evironmental” attorneys to file petitions or motions to attempt to prevent the inevitable. What I have not done is bring in a bunch or retards with so called health problems to play to the hearts and minds of the emotionally unstable.

    What I did do, is ask for empirical evidence, so it can be reviewed and if need be, contradicted or condoned.

    Again, this area needs more development, jobs and money. Titan is potential employer for a mere living wage for most as one doctor stated.

    What I am is an informed, educated and unbiased decision maker for myself that makes decisions on facts in evidence and not emotionally charge tyrades. I am inclined to agree to disagree with the stop Titan movement.

  • eyesareopen says:

    There is a mountain of scientific and medical data to back up the fact that the emissions coming from cement kiln smokestacks is harmful to human health – especially children. You don’t have to look hard to find it. But until you take the time to actually LOOK for it and become truly informed and educated, you only prove you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.
    Titan will emit 12 million lbs. of arsenic, NOX, SO2, Mercury, Lead, PM 2.5, Chromium….140 toxins and pollutants in all, every single year. Look up the research on what those things do to the human body, and how children are especially susceptible… Not to mention the millions of gallons of water they will drain from our aquifer EVERY DAY, the 2500+ acres of wetlands they will destroy, the huge mine they will dig, with blasting 24 hours a day, the over 300 dump trucks added to our roads every day and the fact that they are dangerously close to our schools, homes and parks. Even if they fulfill their promise of jobs (doubtful) they would add a measly 2/10 of one percent to the total employment of NH county. Only an uninformed, uneducated fool would think that’s a good idea.

  • Rick Wilson says:

    The Stop Titan movement has been in full public view from the start. I sign my posts, you hide behind Beach Bum. I like your choice of names. As for your military service, step from the shadows and prove it. Look up coward in the dictionary and you will see it applies to you. You do what Titan has done this whole process, cast dispersion on those that oppose you without saying anything verifiable. You use words like the “mob” and “radicals.” You get pissed when challenged, make veiled threats, allude to how bad you are. You do all of this while hiding behind the name Beach Bum. You words would have more meaning if you would step out of the shadows and identify yourself. I think most people have seen the movie “A Few Good Men,” glad they could write part of your rant for you. You call people cowards that are in full public view from your cyberspace foxhole. You sir, are the coward. Hope you have been paid well for your posts, I understand why you hide, because your comment on “Natural Selection” shows just how pathetic you are. Identify yourself or just go away. If you ever were in the military, then you should be ashamed of talking to a Mother, worried about her child’s health, about “Natural Selection.” It will be nice when you and Titan go the way of the Dinosaurs, you know, become extinct.

  • Beach Bum says:

    Eyesareclosed…

    You guys are the ones with the axe to grind, so why should I be the one to go look up your so called supporting material?

    Until you provide your source…Until you provide 1 credible piece of unbiased empirical evidence…Until you and the rest of the Stop Titan movement provide 1 iota of proof to your libelous claims, I will have to agree to disagree with Stop Titan and anyone who aligns themselves with that mob. When you guys show me and the rest of the free world your sources, so we can refute or condone your arguements, I say dig away and give them 5000 acres of wetlands.

    But I would be careful about statements of putting schools, homes and parks in danger. Someone could view that as potentially slanderous and without just cause. No one knows, for a fact, if in fact schools, homes or parks would be put in any danger and to make such a claim, without proof, is foolish and unwise.

    As far as your employment information, if the Stop Titan movement was so righteous, why not spread the wealth and give up some of the wealth to those that might depend on Titan as gainful employment for a mere living wage?

    Yeah, I didn’t think that would work either. Get down off the smokestack, take a pill and get a grip.

  • Beach Bum says:

    Rick…

    Take off the tin foil hat man. You and the Stop Titan mob have the axe to grind. Again, you dance around providing your source of credible unbiased information for the free world to review, and if need be, refute or condone your testimony. If you do not believe me, ask your lawyers.

    Speaking of lawyers…I represent myself and myself alone. I have no vested interest in Titan cement or their subsidaries. What I do have vested is business in New Hanover County. And, as entitled to an opinion as you, I agree to disagree with your and the Stop Titan perspective. I was merely offering some of your colleagues some insight in thinking before you speak. But, as your colleagues have demonstrated before, enjoy being sued for making libelous comments, have a ball man.

    Last but not least…at one point in my life I was an officer and by proclamation a gentlemen, but don’t abuse that. Your failed attempts to insult me and or trolling will only bring you into my crosshairs. I will have no compunction what so ever in getting into your ass up to my neck.

    So, before you get rickrolled again or go back to playing World of Warcraft, provide your sources so the free world can review the supporting material for your arguements and testimoy. That way, instead of taking your word as the gospel, the rest of us can make our own informed decision.

  • Guest2020 says:

    I don’t have a dog in the cement plant fight and I don’t know any data regarding illnesses caused by cement plants, but you cannot prove a negative.

  • Beach Bum says:

    You mad Rick? You mad bro? You are projecting!

    See how infantile your antics and tactics are Rick? You double talk and dance around subject matter and refuse to provide one iota of credible evidence supporting your argument or testimony.

    You and the Stop Titan Gestapo are the Nazi’s with the axe to grind, so provide the rest of the free world your credible unbiased source. Case close. Not that hard.

    Natural selection is a fact of life and clearly you can’t deal with real life.

    Good luck with the tinfoil hats and the crusades. Again, you are welcome for your freedom to bad mouth America and those that grant you and all the other shitheads the greatest freedom which you exercise daily. Freedom of Choice.

    Changing the channel now man, have a ball arguing with yourself.

  • Rick Wilson says:

    You just proved who you are with your veiled threat of another lawsuit. Your closed mind, closed ear rhetoric is laughable. Does Titan and the City Council do all your writing for you. You call for proof, and ignore it when presented. Do you really think anyone that is willing to do research and think for themselves buys into what you are saying? Titan has been asked many times to debate this issue publicly. Titan refused to answer questions presented by a county commissioner. Titan is a cowardly foreign corporation that hides behind unjust lawsuits, veiled threats, and propaganda to try and get its way. You mindlessly sing their praises and defend everything they do. Here’s a suggestion: A public debate, if what you claim is true, Titan should want to tell all publicly. The reason they will not, they have too much to hide, and people like you to spread misinformation. Why don’t you get a life, and quit being a rubber stamp little yes man for the Mayor and Titan. If you were not so pathetic, you would be comical.

  • Rick Wilson says:

    Mr. Bum,

    Except for a few, none of the pro Titan crowd signs their names. If you believe it, sign it. I don’t believe for a second that any facts presented could/would change your mind or baseless attacks. Whether you are sitting in Titan’s office anonymously writing away or not, I could care less. As far as your threats go, I do not concern myself with someone too ashamed of what they write to sign their name. All is just hot air, or in your case keystrokes without substance. You are right about one thing, you are entitled to your opinion. So is everyone else. Present proven, verifiable facts to back your opinion before demanding others to do the same.

    If Titan had facts, if Titan did not fear what they would have to answer, they would participate in a public debate. I love how you try to diminish a groups point of view by calling them a mob. Does this make you feel better? People with facts present them. The rest anonymously hide behind keyboards and run away from public debates. If you were truly interested in making an informed decision, you would do the research yourself instead of demanding others to do it for you. Is laziness a problem?

    If you are in fact former military, your actions confuse me. I grew up in a military family. My father taught me to stand up for what I believe, not make veiled threats while anonymously hiding. What flag did you serve under? The United States of America or Greece? Why do you blindly follow and serve a foreign corporation that will add pollution to an already polluted area? A foreign corporation that will withdraw millions of gallons of water per day from an aquifer that is already strained from drought conditions. An aquifer that thousands of people depend on. Is there anything else you would like to surrender to Titan? Anything else you want to take away from the people of this area and hand over?

    Titan facts: The footprint of this plant is huge. They will use billions of gallons of water each year. They will add pollution to an already heavily polluted area. They are a foreign corporation that will take profits out of this country. There are health concerns from 100’s of doctors. Many current businesses that understand becoming a “cement” town will keep a lot of other businesses from coming here. They will add mercury to the river and island creek. Is this what you are supporting?

    You claim to be a business man and Titan makes sense? Their downside for 160 jobs? If this type of business plan is what the future holds, no wonder the country is in a bind. Titan requires our air, our health, and our water. How is this a positive addition to this or any other community?

    FYI, I do not play video games so pick something else to assume.

  • jj says:

    I have said this over and over. If there is health problems caused cement plants there should be local data here showing this. The problem I see is that they cannot prove Ideal Cement caused health problem. Now they want to bring people in that supposed to be living near a plant and have issues. Can they even prove that the health problem is cause by the plant there?

    I will say this again, show me where Ideal Cement caused health problem (data should be out there) and I will stand with you on the issue.

  • p jackson says:

    It does not take a rocket scientist to connect the dots. Family moves to Midlothian Texas with a perfectly healthy son and he is taken to the ER 6 times in six months due to severe breathing problems? Or over half the children in Midlothian Texas have asthma and have to carry inhailers at all times. There are 3 cement plants there. Do you honestly think it is healthy to have dioxin,sulfuric acid,mercury,lead,chromium, etc. released into the air? By the way check your tense; should be there are health problems…cause should be caused in that the health problem is cause… and other errors.

  • p jackson says:

    Thank you for covering a very important environmental story. More details would be great. I attended, and the residents of Castle Hayne, New Hanover Co. Brunswick, and Pender should be on high alert for the problems that the cement plant can and will cause for our economy, our environment and most importantly our health. My prediction is property values around the plant will plummet and the health costs will be dear. What I gleaned from the folks who already are living in towns run by cement plants are as follows: the towns have become bankrupt and no one can sell their home or business. If they speak up against the cement plants, they are either ridiculed or threatened. The cement plant personnel establish themselves in the community boards so they may have and in and infuence the communities. The rare forms of cancer are affecting many residents but especially vulnerable are the children. Asthma and respiratory ailments are way over the norm. The monitoring/testing of the particulate matter is either non-existant or tampered with and the govt does not have the funds or personnel to regulate these companies. Most of the cement plants turn to hazardous waste to use in fueling the kilns to make the cement due to the high cost of fuel to bring it to extremely high temperatures. The cement co is then paid to take on hazardous waste and that is an incentive for them. Things like tires are burned and then benzines released into the air and inhailed. This will be our future if this industry is not stopped before it is too late!

  • jj says:

    P Jackson, I would say that is most stupid think I have read in years. I guest the easiest thing to show you is that the City of Wilmington isn’t bankrupt ( remember Ideal was out there for a good number of years). Did people have problems selling their houses when Ideal was in business? There should be plenty of data to show it did if that was a fact.

    You stated “The rare forms of cancer are affecting many residents but especially vulnerable are the children.” Can you show me proof of this and again the data should be there to point this out…

    Now you are trying to say they use hazardous waste, can you prove this and if they do then they most be getting it from another plant nearby that is producing it. Shouldn’t you be trying to shutdown those plants?

    How many more lies are you going to stread about this plant? I really think if you want to have support of your cause, show the data where Ideal did all the about before there were standards like they are now. If I were you I would be more concerned as to what GE is doing and wanting to do on the nuclear side. I don’t see you have an issue it them…

    http://www.nrc.gov/materials/fuel-cycle-fac/laser.html

    I think this would cause more issues than Titan.

  • Guest7969 says:

    yet…NONE of what you just said has been proven…

  • Mike C. says:

    There are no cement plants that manufacture there own cement in probably all of NC. With rail, trucking, ocean and river shipping, this place becomes IDEAL for a new plant that has been on hold by TITAN for over a decade while they modernized other plants and closed down others that were not as clean or efficient. As for the EPA checking on them, burn the EPA if they are not doing their job. By the way, do you know if the EPA Inspectors have been checking on the existing plant that operates in a cloud of dust? How do I know that there is a cloud of dust: I have seen it?

  • Guest castle_hayne says:

    Transporting high or low level radioactive material for GE’s new nuclear enrichment facility looks like Titan’s only possible customer. That’s the only other major permit that is in process in this area right now. It’s got to be GE, there’s just no other logical construction use, demand, or explanation. It’s hard to fight them if GE is backing because so many here work for GE. But we’d sure feel better if GE were putting in Wind power out in the ocean, than this. “A nuclear .. containment structure consists of a .. 1 meter thick wall of very thick and heavy reinforced concrete”

  • icedog says:

    Titan claims they want and will be in compliance with EPA codes. I’m sure they will especially for the first year they are open. Then when things cool off and people aren’t keeping a close eye on them, I’m sure they will do whatever it takes to make a bigger dollar. Much like when a new restaurant opens, everything is done the right way. Then after a while, when the health inspectors don’t show for a while, things tend to lapse.

    Here’s a question; if Titan is laying off at other plants presumably because of slow-downs, why do they need to open this plant so bad?

  • Owen O'Neill says:

    Why wouldn’t Titan want to open this plant. They can make as much money burning medical waste , tires and any other environmentally damaging material. Other cities and states andcountries pay a small ransom to get rid of waste. The port of NC offers a nice dropping off point for all the countries garbage for us to breathe. Oh no, they won’t do that..wink wink..we are “good neighbors” Don’t worry about the use of our drinking water..maybe Titan can sell recycled water too.

  • Guest7969 says:

    EPA rules don’t just SLACK after the first year…

  • p jackson says:

    You ask some good questions. I don’t think they have been operational for some years , but they keep it open doing the minimum activity (not producing cement, perhaps using the quarry) required to keep permits.
    The furnace stack is very low and high levels of mercury have been found in the fish at and near the area. Most likely the toxins are drawn down by the cool water. I personally would not eat any fish from the river.
    I believe what Titan plans to produce will be on a much larger scale: 3X what the old plant used to produce! My biggest worry is when they want to burn hazardous waste and then we will have a toxic coctail added to our air.

  • castle hayne resident says:

    The water directly in front of where the Ideal Cement plant was (where Titan wants to build) is on the EPA’s list of most polluted water sites in the US. Coincidence? The Cape Feat has slightly acidic water and it’s the perfect mix to turn metal mercury into a more polluted toxic kind.

  • castle hayne parent says:

    The water directly in front of where the Ideal Cement plant was (where Titan wants to build) is on the EPA’s list of most polluted water sites in the US. Coincidence? The Cape Feat has slightly acidic water and it’s the perfect mix to turn metal mercury into a more polluted toxic kind.

  • My neighborhood too says:

    Isn’t there a cement plant currently operating in the same area without the newer environmental standards? I think it has been there since the 50’s. That would be a good place to get some data. I live in the area and have not heard of anyone having problems from it.

  • j henkins says:

    I wish all these protestors would shut up. There is no data backing there claims. This area is in dire need of jobs and Titan should be allowed to build. Its just like all the retired fossils in southport fighting the port. With no jobs the town and the economy of the area both die. There is a reaon all the youg people wanto to move away from here because there is no oppourtunity unless you are happy with minimum wage and still can’t afford to live

  • Guest28403 says:

    I used to live in the Mts of Boone NC with had a cemet and asphalt plant and we never had issues.. Reality people.. This city need jobs and the Titan jobs will help this economy. As for the person worried the EPA isnt goign to watch over thigns your crazy. Are you kidding??? The EPA is so overzealous in their regulation they have shut down compliant operations from other businesses which under normal circumstances under previous administrations your worry of the EPA failing to do its job is soo unfounded its not funny.. The EPA are the same idiots that have declared puddles ins omebodys front yard navigable waterways and therefore protected wetlands transfered tot he Dept of Interior and people have lost control of their own property rights right and left.. I suspect it boils down to Titan being able to do business cheaper (hard to believe considerign the tax base and rates have already costs us Caterpiller and Contental Tire) but then again truth be told the old liberal treehuggers fromt he NE who’ve moved down here and dont need to work dont give a rats rear about the job market in this town as long as they can get back over to Wrightsville or Figure 8 where they can leave the riff raff behind (We all know well about the arrogance of WB residents and desire if they had their way to keep people out of their beach as they feel the riff raff and regulars should go to CB and Kure). My wife works in WB at one of the resorts and believe me the attitude is alive and well based on the clientele and upper management even treating their staff like riff raff because there are issues which ironically Upper Mgt created themselves when they dotn have enough brains to sign the checks to pay the damn bills on time and then blame the accounting and financial controller offices over late fees..

  • Beach Bum says:

    This is clear cut yellow journalism. WWAY has played to hearts of the emotionally unstable and sensationalized a so called story.

    Again, show us data where a by product of cement plant is the sole cause of a cancer, sickness or death and not a work place related injury, sickness or death.

    Not buying into the emotionally charged rhetoric from the emotional and irrational nay sayers that claim to be informed. But I can tell you, that if they keep up with the nonsense, they will get their way. They will scare off another potential employer and jobs. Like Catapiller, those jobs will go else where.

    I think the last thing we need in this area, is another freaking park. We need some development to entice potential employers and investors to come to the area and create jobs as well as bring in money.

    Money makes everything go…not warm fuzzies.

    Take a pill and get a grip.

  • pgj says:

    Hey there beach bum, why don’t you show us the data that proves the harmfull chemicals released from cement plants (especially the ones that now burn hazardous waste) are NOT the cause of cancer, respiratory illness etc.?

  • Bee Smart says:

    “Again, show us data where a by product of cement plant is the sole cause of a cancer, sickness or death and not a work place related injury, sickness or death.”

    The data is everywhere, it’s easy to find and you can start with Google and if you actually read academic and medical studies, and then critically thought about causes and effects, then you would not be so thoughtless in your response to a MOTHER talking about her SICK CHILDREN. Your ignorance is predictable but your lack of respect and empathy for other human-beings is inexcusable. You can have your money but if you think it’s okay to mock the very real health problems of others, then I hope souls on sale.

  • Guest00 says:

    This long diatribe would be comical if this wasn’t such a serious issue. You claim that you know better than the over 12,000 people who are concerned about Titan, including over 200 doctors, hundreds of business owners, scientists, university professors, 450 health care professionals, the American Lung Association, the NHC Pediatric Society, the North Carolina Pediatric Society, the NHC County Board of Health, the NHC Board of Education – and that doesn’t include the mountains of medical and scientific data that says the pollutants and toxins that Titan will emit will be harmful to our health and especially the health of our children…..you think you know more than they do and yet you don’t even know that there IS NO CEMENT PLANT IN OPERATION RIGHT NOW AT THAT SITE!! There is nothing but a tiny rock quarry there now…No mercury, no arsenic, no PM 2.5, no SO2, no NOX, no Hydrochloric Acid. In other words no 12 MILLION POUNDS of pollution and toxins that Titan will spew into our air that will rain down on our children. No 2500 acre mine draining millions of gallons of water EVERY DAY out of our aquifer, no 300+ additional dump trucks on our roads every day, no 500 ft. smokestack and no foreign corporation lining their pockets at our expense.
    And by the way – the citizens HAVE been asking Titan Cement to answer questions in a public forum for four years now and they refuse to do it. They also will not say that they will not burn hazardous waste, tires, plastics and other noxious waste (as if burning coal isn’t bad enough)They sue are citizens for speaking factual statements at a county meeting, while their CEO is in Washington trying to get the Clean Air Act revoked. All that and we’re suppose to trust them????
    Do you live under a rock????

  • MIke C. says:

    After reading the article on Sunday protest, I have to wonder if the people that attended have a brain. I have nothing to do with TITAN. I am just a citizen that is fed up with listening to the pathetic arguments when there is already an operational plant right next to the proposed new plant site. The existing plant in Castle Hayne is often hazed by a cloud of cement dust from loading bulk-hauling trucks and the people of Castle Hayne are not complaining about it! And of the “HORROR STORIES” that I have read about, not one could say that it was the result of an ultra modern plant that TITAN intends to build that will exceed most EPA Requirements. It will actually be far healthier environmentally than the existing operating cement plant and will provide many, many more jobs for the local residence.
    Maybe the news media and the people that attend these rallies should start asking questions like: Who are these people who come from all over to run down a situation that they really know little or nothing about? Who notified these people of the problem since they come from other states? Who paid their way? I have a hard time believing that they came out of the goodness of their heart and at their own expense. Is the existing plant paying people to rally in an effort to keep the competition out? And can these people prove that cement plants caused MS? Aspartame is a sweetener used in many diet soft drinks and even in baby food and it is a known cause symptoms that have been diagnosed initially as MS and other neurological disorders to include Gulf War Syndrome. Who is to say it was not their existing lifestyle that caused their problem and not the cement plants?
    Many people in America today are like sheep. If you tell them what they want to hear they will believe anything and follow you anywhere, even if it kills them! And once you get them going, all you have to do is allude to something and their poorly trained brains will fill in the blank and swear to what they have thought to be the Gospel Truth.
    Isn’t it about time for the people of Castle Hayne to go to TITAN and find out exactly what TITAN intends to build and what is actually going on with the existing Cement Plant? You just may be astonished to find that you are being used to keep back competition and that what TITAN offers is far healthier health wise and economically than what you have now. Start asking what are we not being told and ask them questions about that. You will find many arguments falling apart when the truth is exposed through honest questions.

  • Rick Wilson says:

    Why don’t you go to Titan and ask your questions. Let them know you are the one person in this area that knows more than anyone else. Let them know that you can explain away all that is bad about Titan and blame it on something else. Let them know you have a magic wand that does this. Titan will not answer questions in a public forum. Titan uses people just like you to spout questions instead of answers. Since you appear to think enough of Titan to worship them, why don’t you and the rest of the pro Titan crowd form your own church? You can worship a foreign corporation that wants to add Millions of pounds of pollution to an already polluted area each year. You can worship a foreign corporation that will use Billions of gallons of water each year, thus wiping out the aquifer that thousands of people from your own country depend on. You can worship a foreign corporation that sues citizens of your own country that disagree with them. You can worship a foreign corporation that lobby’s Congress to eliminate pollution laws so they can operate all their plants here the way they operate the one in Alexandria, Egypt. You can pray in your new “church of those that love Titan” that everyone in this country will see the light and allow Titan to come here and do whatever it pleases. Titan comes from Greece, a country that is bankrupt. This is where Titan learned how to fix the world’s problems. Titan should quit the cement business, It should take up casting magic spells. It would appear that they are able to cast a spell that convinces some people that their massive down side is acceptable for supposedly adding 160 jobs. This is less than 1% of the people unemployed in New Hanover County. With people buying into this kind of logic, we need to fix the education system in this country first. Hopefully it is not too late to fix “STUPID”!

  • p jackson says:

    Try reading my comments again and then see if you can process what was written correctly.

  • Rick Wilson says:

    Those with open minds have been informed with facts and the truth, the rest, the single minded, will continue to spout Titan’s misinformation. Programmable “robotitans,” a proud occupation to be sure. Why is it that anytime someone from where another plant is located shows up, Titan has to do an emergency “e-alert” to explain why all the cesspools they operate at other places are totally different from the one they want to build in Castle Hayne? Take your 450 (+) million dollars and the money you spend lobbying Congress to reduce and/or eliminate pollution standards and laws, and clean up the garbage sites you already operate. If this issue was not so critical, your double speak would be a great stand up comedy routine. Example: Titan says: Yes, we care about the environment and all the people living around our plants…………. Congress, you need to get rid of these bothersome pollution standards, It is much better to suffocate the environment and people than…………….. PROFITS!

    Question for Titan, which one is it? What you say or what you do?

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