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Plans for downtown hotel hit speed bump with city council

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WILMINGTON, NC (WWAY) -- The developer for a downtown hotel was in disagreement with Wilmington City Council Tuesday night over plans for the building's development.

The plans call for an encroachment of about ten feet in overhangs that would go into the public right of way on Nutt Street.

Several members of city council were upset by the plans, saying if they approve the plans for the Hotel Indigo, it could lead to a slippery slope of approving other developers plans. City council decided to continue the item.

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whatever!

the only way that this town is ever going to get out of its isalationist sounthern closeminded beach mentality is by new development. of course, as always though, our amazingly bright, superbly social concious, always definativly correct ELECTED politicians, decide that a really nice modern looking hotel chain, which ultimatley would bring less southern, close-minded people to this redneck town, isnt a pproved because our city officials think that having a balcony on a building is too much? I THINK PEOPLE CAN TRADE CONTEMPORARY DEVELOPMENT IN THIS TOWN OVER WALKING IN THE SHADE FOR A COUPLE SECONDS!!!

As reported....

...in the hometown mullet-wrapper earlier in the week, the issue is one of leadership, and the political powerbroker's delusional belief in their own importance and that they really do know better.

Local government around here seem to be rife with elected officials who seem to have their own agenda, and the people who elected them are largely not on it. Here is what I mean:

The staffs of New Hanover County, City of Wilmington, Cape Fear Public Utility Authority, etc., are largely comprised of people who went through a competitive interview process, and were selected as the best candidate for that position based on (like most job hires) their education, experience, and background...along with the willingness to work, for the most part, on the cheap. The boards, and councils...same old players.

Now, some of these staff members are extremely well educated, hold advanced degrees, licenses, etc. They are "empowered" to do their jobs based on the aforementioned criteria. So..they go about their daily business trying to serve the public the best they can.

What you saw last night is exactly what I am talking about. The COW staff (in theory) is supposed to work with the public and give them guidance. So the staff had worked with the developer...THEN...

Politicians. Forget about what the staff told you...forget about their experience...background, education. I KNOW BEST! I WAS ELECTED! I AUTHORED THE MURKY LAWS, ORDINANCES, AND REGULATIONS! I WILL LORD OVER YOU...and guess what? How much more time and money will this cost you. In the aforementioned WSN article on timelines and an overall lack of leadership in these processes, Mayor Saffo said he wanted to cut this decision-making from six months down to four. Good luck with that, Billy.

Now, I understand the policians are elected, and there are checks and balances...but as for the length of time for anything to get down around this fiefdom is precisely because of the process I just described. Think about the wasted staff time...they aren't given direction or any inkling about what the politicians are thinking or how they will vote or act.

The boards and councils need to be setting forth clear guidance and direction...providing counsel and vision. Right now, staff work ends with a process that could better be described as a crapshoot.

I saw that debacle last night. I feel sorry for the staff that has to go back and perform a redo based on the wisdom of fools. This is the rule, not the exception. Remember the staff's recent recommendation about a consulting firm for the baseball stadium? Kicked to the curb, you idiots!

The process is EXACTLY backwards. The boards/councils should be providing clear direction to the staffs...then sit back and wait for the results, and if close, vote yeah or nay. What we have now is a roll of the dice. The staff rolls, and we don't know what is going to come up.

Doesn't the newest bank on

Doesn't the newest bank on Third Street have overhangs that extend onto the public right of way? If allowed then, what's the problem now?

come on Wilmington!

For Pete's sake, Wilmington! Why is there always such a hold up on development and completion of structures? Look at the Walgreeens that's going up on Market Street and Kerr - how long has it taken to get up and running? A year now? And still not open? And what about the Staybridge on New Centre? That was tied up in development issues for YEARS. So pee or get off the pot, planners / developers - whoever it is holding up projects. If you're in for development, then let the builder get on with it, or don't agree to the project at all.

Hotel

For heaven's sake make a decision. Just make a decision. Will the slippery slope council speaks of have gained any traction when and if the decision is made? In the mean time schedules are delayed, construction is delayed and so on and so on. A nickel holding up a dollar. This should have been settled already. Make a decision.

take it across the river

it is okay to knock off the back end of an historic building to put up a car garage but when I come to Nutt Street, we have a problem. Is this the same hotel that was supposed to be built 2 years ago along with the convention center? I find it incredulous that a firm plan was not already in place with approved designs, easements, parking, access, utility connections and an impact study.

And now an envisioned ballpark is already in the works and funds are being expended on that project as well? With the same leadership at the helm and straying from shoulder to shoulder of the path to success, I believe we need to get some fresh blood into the leadership positions that are creating Wilmington's own version of the National Debt.

I have a solution; start building across the river from downtown and plan it all out; your ballpark, this hotel, parking garages and any other controversial developments that are going to impact the historic downtown.

Remember; one must stand outside the forest to see the trees!!!!!!

You've opened the door

for additional opportunity and fees.

a water taxi service to carry folks back and forth across the river.

Another employment opportunity.

Another use for over priced river front acreage; those ferries need a place to dock and discharge passengers.

Need a parking lot for the passengers.

Probably need some vendors to sell over priced bottled water, sodas and hot dogs and peanuts.

The imagination can just run rampant with ideas.