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City Council agrees on $37 million max for baseball stadium; No agreement yet

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WILMINGTON, NC (NEWS RELEASE) -- Negotiations are ongoing and an agreement with Mandalay/Braves will not be voted on at Tuesday's City Council meeting.

However, to meet the deadline to get something on the November ballot, Council will hold a public hearing regarding a bond referendum, not to exceed $37 million for the cost of the stadium and land.

If Council approves moving forward with the bond referendum, they will then act on a resolution that would provide official agreement to put the issue on the Nov. 6 ballot.

Council is also expected to direct staff to continue working on land acquisition for the stadium, even as details of the final agreement with Mandalay/Braves are being negotiated.

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Proposed Ball Park

It might be adviseable for the property where the ball park be researched in respect to the goods stored by former Almont Shipping during the years they owned, operated and did business. According to my research and also from being from Wilmington for 60-yrs, I knew there were large hills of white and other color substances mounded on the grounds nearby. I found by checking the web they stored chromium and sulpher in addition to other substances. Don't know if these are substances qualifying for a superfund clean-up but we certainly don't want citizens exposed to these if so and certainly cleaned-up beforehand don't we?

Check In Time!!

Some of you opponents ought to check in with the Greensboro GrassHoppers.
The team is doing so well that the management company just bought and paid for the NewBridge Stadium. Now the team makes the money. Some residents are now furious that the city jewel got away. Go figure, you cant please everybody. Now the city is free to grow some more by selling bonds toward the building of a fine arts center similar to the Durham arts center? We don't want anything like this to happen in Wilmington, Do We?

There's nothing else in Greensboro....

Greensboro has nothing else for entertainment. No beaches, no mountains, limited restaurants, little theatre, no boating, no swimming, no fishing, nothing pretty to visit and observe.

Kinda gettin' the scope here Kilroy? When there's NOTHING else to do, a ballgame MAY be an attraction. Won't happen here. Too many other great things to do where you don't have to fight for parking, dodge criminals on the sidewalks, buy overpriced food and drinks, then watch an elementary single A team swat at the ball now and then.

It's only a single A team, not even close to the pros and most certainly not 40 million dollars worth!

You must be kidding me..

Nothing to do in Greensboro-Winston Salem?
WFU
UNCG
Close to Duke,NC STATE,UNC,ELON,APP STATE not far away.
No,nothing to do at all..

But you are a sports addict...

....and that's all fine and good, but there is no medication for that. The only activities you can recite are sports related, so what? Who freekin' cares? That is ALL there is to do in that area. READ what I've already said. I lived in the Raleigh area for over 12 years and wouldn't give a rats after-section if I ever went back. There is nothing there...when there is nothing there, a small time baseball game is entertainment. We DON'T need entertainment here, especially at the cost of 37 million clams to the taxpayers! We have the beach, we have the ocean, we have fishing, swimming, kayaking, boating, surfing, shell collecting, bikini watching, kite surfing, bikini watching, beautiful views and bikini watching. Who really gives a CRAP about a silly, small-time league baseball game?

You'll die with this fiasco stuck in your craw won't you? Go ahead and do so, in the meantinme we're going to fight to make sure that happens!

Go West Old Man

If you ever get up enough nerve to venture beyond Burgaw, you ought to visit Greensboro. It's North Carolina's 3rd. largest city. The ACC plays their championship basketball tournament there. The PGA visits every year and you don't get a shark bite when you go swimming. I think you would also find that the triad led NC in economic development projects this year. Makes me think something is being done right. Your opinion of Wilmington is as sad as your attitude toward progress and this is likely due to your inability to afford our standard of living.

Your "assumptions" are totally incorrect...my facts aren't

Greensboro, NC's third largest city? Big deal...nothing there, too many people in a hurry. ACC? big deal..not much of a view. Nothing there but a smelly sports arena. PGA? big deal, another golf course. Nothing there. So...now for those with your scairdy-cat attitude that are afraid to go swimming, we peeps who just happen to enjoy nature, beauty, serenity and the great variety of activity afforded by our wonderful coastal region, We simply do not rely on sports activities as baseline "entertainment". We just have far too may valuable avenues for that and enjoy our great diversity.

Let me explain a few basic facts my dear IQ challenged friend. First of all, the only "economic development" that Wilmington needs is for the City Council to develop a way to properly spend the taxpayers money and NOT against the taxpayer wishes. We have no problem in getting tourists in and out of this area every summer.

My opinion of the "City of Wilmington" is only marred by the unproductive and self-serving interests of the current city council, I happen to love the town and our entire region.

It is quite pitiful and somewhat enigmatic where you "ballpark supporters" (A.K.A. riverfront swill-land developers) like to throw accusatory, socio-economic comments at those that simply disgree with you while accompanied by real facts. This further reinforces our understanding of your futility and the panic you endure of you hopeless efforts to rid yourselves of that land. We additionally understand your purpose of self-motivation without regard for the remaining taxpayers best interests.

You invite me to "venture" beyond Burgaw and think you know what I can afford and what I can't? Well, listen here Mr. Sudsy, you can take all of your famous prognostications, your obviously "High standard of living" and cart it all the way to Greensboro to be with your ACC and your PGA, while experiencing economic projects in the 3rd largest city in NC. STAY THERE!!! In the meantime, we'll continue to enjoy the seabreeze, wonderful weekends on the beach, boating in the ICW and catching yellowfin Tuna offshore.
You see...the point is, we do not need and do not want a 40 million dollar ballfield to be set-up on contaminated riverside dirt and to be funded by taxpayers!

Greensboro calls YOU loudly and clearly!

Mr t

Build it with private funding JUST LIKE IN GREENSBORO and I'll be there.

Excellent example of private sector development adding to a city's charm....we should try it here

Vog

This poster has a point

Go check Minor league A level attendance by their leagues
stats:
Midwest league 16 teams.
http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=l_att&lid=118&sid=l118
10 teams with average attendance > 3000/game
6 teams with average attendance < 3000/game

There is in fact nothing else to do near or around these host cities.
Now check this out:
http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=l_att&lid=123&sid=l123
Florida State league (Single A as well) 12 teams total
ALL 12 teams with average attendance < 3000 per game

Thats a stunning statistic for you and some of them have new or newly renovated stadiums.

Vog

so waht?

@vog,
The Florida State League is low-a,instructional.
The people get spring training annually,which is the "big draw".
The Midwest and a Low-A league have nothing in common with Wilmington,where we have a great ownership and management team coming 2014.

So Chuck- Is this

So Chuck-
Is this wrong?
Class A-Advanced
"One level below Double-A, the California League, Florida State League, and the Carolina League play at the Class A-Advanced level.[1] This is often a second or third promotion for a minor league player, although a few high first-round draftees, particularly those with college experience, will begin at this level. These leagues play a complete season like Triple-A and Double-A, April through early September. Many of these teams, especially in the Florida State League, are owned by major league parent clubs and use their spring training complexes."

If we are on the same par with the Florida State "instructional league" that means Lynchburg Hillcats are one step above New Hanover High School too? The Fredrick Keys Too
Oh my God the Myrtle Beach Pelicans are there too!
We're paying $37M for a REAL GOOD high school team to move here?

Is that what you're saying???????

Vog

Mr T

That stadium was built exclusively with private funding
I would be glad if Wilmington's was as well

Try again

Vog

www.portcitybaseball.com

Right with you on this...

Duke and Mr T

That stadium was financed privately - no city funds were used
I'm right with you on this.....
It should be this way here.
The city of Greensboro could have issued bonds for a performing arts center long ago.

Vog

baseball stadium

Fix what's broke before you build anything new.

Baseball :)

Well why cant these folks who want this so bad put up their own money? Hell ill donate a hundred bucks.Stop wasting tax dollars like its your money City Council/Mayor/Staff/City Manager !!!!!!!! Maybe we should get this put on the books. The mistakes you make will be taken out of your pay/benefits !!!!Ignorantia juris non excusat

Disregarding reality council opts for full steam ahead

37 million dollars, a number not that much lower than the original proposed amount ... More polls showing overwhelming opposition to a publicly funded stadium... Negotiations with Mandatlanta all screwed up ... Land acquisition details nowhere near finalized ... and yet it looks like council will probably attempt to move forward with the bond referendum instead of just doing the right thing by pulling the plug on this debacle.

What kind of reasonable, justifiable motive could they possibly have at this juncture for continuing this madness?

The Wolf and the Lamb by Aesop

A WOLF, meeting with a lamb astray from the fold, resolved not to lay violent hands on him, but to find some plea, which should justify to the lamb himself, his right to eat him.

He then addressed him: Sirrah, last year you grossly insulted me.
Indeed, bleated the lamb in a mournful tone of voice: I was not then born.

Then said the wolf: You feed in my pasture.
No, good sir, replied the lamb: I have not yet tasted grass.

Again said the wolf: You drink of my well.
No, exclaimed the lamb: I never yet drank water, for as yet my mother's milk is both food and drink to me.

Upon which the wolf seized him and ate him up, saying: Well! I won't remain supper-less, even though you refute every one of my imputations.

Moral:
The tyrant will always find a pretext for his tyranny, and it is useless for the innocent to try by reasoning to get justice, when the oppressor intends to be unjust.

Now that we have the "cap".

The deal will sweeten.
This number working in the favor of voters.