‘Vote No’ members to keep fighting city hall

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Submitted: Thu, 11/15/2012 - 9:33pm
Updated: Fri, 11/16/2012 - 1:58pm

WILMINGTON, NC (WWAY) — With the help of voters they successfully struck out Wilmington’s ballpark bond referendum. Now members of the Vote No campaign say their work continues.

The campaign brought together the young and the old, Democrats and Republicans, and today on the steps of Wilmington City Hall, they came together one more time not to disband, but to announce themselves as the voice of Wilmington voters.

“You’ve all heard the expression that you can’t fight city hall? Well we did, and we won,” Vote No spokesman Scott Harry said. “We want to encourage our citizens in the future to not be afraid, to stand up and come down here and speak to the city council and tell them what you think. It’s only then that we are going to get what we want out of this city.”

In their first move as a political watchdog group, the Vote No campaign members made a request to city leaders, and that request was that they all play ball.

“We’re going to ask the city council and Mandalay to cancel all agreements they have between each other,” Harry said. “Specifically we want Mandalay to release the City of Wilmington. We want them to drop their option on the city of wilmington so that we can have the opportunity to talk to ripken or any other group that wants to build a baseball stadium.”

As a group, members of Vote No have declared themselves bipartisan and vow to hold city leaders to core values they say make this city great.

“We need to focus our government, whether it be the county commissioners or the city council on protecting our environment, on public safety, on the core issues they’re hired to look after,” Harry said.

At this point none of the members of the Vote No campaign plan to run for office in city elections next year.

A city spokeswoman says the agreement between the city and Mandalay ends January 1. She says there are no plans to extend it.


  • Peyton Garrett says:

    Chuck, how do you sustain yourself? Being the mental giant that you are I would think that you were over qualified for anything here in the backwoods of Wilmington, NC. What “business circles” are you a part of? Monkey business most likely.

  • Vog46 says:

    I have emailed Laura Padgett and asked for two things:
    1 – according to the minutes of council meetings 2 appropriations were made totaling about $478,500.
    To date, news reports indicate $291,000 of costs have been incurred. I asked how we would know when the $187,500 would be returned to the general fund.
    Her response was that she had asked for an accounting at the last meeting. She DID however CC Sterling Cheatham on the response. We will see what happens with that.

    I then asked that the MOU be cancelled so as to allow for other entities to approach government at any level in this area. She said she had received numerous requests for that and that it sounded reasonable.
    Typical political BS. I hope she acts on it


  • 1981duke says:

    Something ILM does not understand.
    Most people here think you need a passport here to go to South Carolina.

  • 1981duke says:

    Ripken has no team to put here or interest in this area.
    After a 70-30 ‘no” vote the only pro-baseball players you will see here are those visting relatives.

  • Vog46 says:

    Show me the contract that shows Mandalay has the EXCLUSIVE right to operate the Hillcats here.
    Can you?

    Ripken and Mandalay are both independent operators who would/could operate teams for the Mariners the Yankees – ANYBODY.
    So – if Ripken gets approval from the county to “go” and they have private investors would Atlanta NOT pursue this?


  • Vog46 says:

    That’s an insult to garden gnomes everywhere


  • Jim Johnson says:

    If someday it is built they should ban each and everyone of them from stepping foot inside it!!

  • SurfCityTom says:

    by the way, saw on the news last night the agreement between the city and Mandalanta does not expire until 01/01.

    Is there not someone in the city government with sufficient moral integrity to say it’s over; let’s call the whole thing off now so Ripken Group and the county can enter serious negotiations?

    I forgot, we’re talking politicians. So much for moral scruples.

  • 1981duke says:

    Seems like Scott Harry has a minority based LLC,trying to get Government contract work,i.e.–“Taxpayer Monies”.
    This is being heard all over the “Port City” in business Circles.
    Ironic huh?

  • Katherine says:

    You’re an idiot. Scott Harry’s company sells things like drill bits and concrete anchors and nuts and bolts. “Lining his pockets with taxpayer money”? You’re trying to imply that the City buying a few thousand dollars worth of galvanized bolts and raincoats from him a year is the same thing as them pissing away multi-millions of dollars on a baseball stadium. You have all the credibility of a garden gnome.

  • Big Whiskey says:

    isn’t that an oxymoron? Harry himself lines his pockets with taxpayer money – even asked Mike McIntyre to help him secure a federal contract. Tells people all the time one of his best customers is the City of Wilmington. okay for some I guess.

  • 1981duke says:

    Now is the time to revisit this economic impact option for Wilmington.
    We lost,we did not quit.
    Just because the “vote” went the oppositions way,does not mean the citizens made the right decision.
    There are many voters who do not look hard at issues.

  • SurfCityTom says:

    what did you not understand?

    You and your anal band posted so many false and misleading statements in an attempt to sway the voting public, whom you believed was misinformed enough to believe anything you posted, that you were a leading cause of the defeat.

    The citizens made their decision.

    Get over it; they chose another dance partner than you.

  • Vog46 says:

    Um, no.
    They’re still trying to figure it out.

    The Locke foundation is it’s own worst enemy at times……


  • Carol Kramer says:

    Chalk up a BIG Wilmington Win. Many thanks!

  • Guest CommonTater says:

    to the title of moron I see. The people have spoken. I don’t know where you are.. hopefully in a land far far away but why don’t you just pick up and move to a place where you have the baseball you want. It’s already here but you just won’t get to sit by the river to watch it with Pretty Boy Saffo. Big deal!

  • 1981duke says:

    Or at least this group appears this way,24/7 and 365 a year.

  • Guest461 says:

    WRONG!!!: Nazi group was actaully disbanded by an all American vote! Saffo and crew lost all wind in sails and did not succeed with FORCING a major expenditure the taxpayers DID NOT WANT! Geez…talk about Nazis…

    RIGHT:ILM no grow! At least, NOT with frivoulous, one-sided fantasies aimed at wasting major taxpayer dollars for more white elephants!

    You’re such a sore loser and always so wrong! I’m not at all sorry that land deal fell apart for you like a 2 dollar watch…AGAIN!!!

  • ChefnSurf says:

    You lost. You lost big. And now that it’s over, you still don’t have the common sense a dog could give to a mushroom. You just had to post something, no matter how dumb it was.

    Seeing as how you’re still intent on making yourself look foolish, I thought I’d give you a little help and re-post some of your past posts.

    (From just one of your Dukie Prattles 08/09/2012)
    – The Braves and Mandalay have years of experience. You have none,you are all mere novices.
    – You might influence some but Terry,I and our group have plenty of experience in marketing/sales/operations.
    – You are the minority,the November vote will prove us right.
    – We have no interests in your petty arguments.
    – Over the next 3 months you will be bombarded with all the”positives: this project brings.
    – You better call your AFP pals,you will need every single dollar they have.
    – Our side will spend over 150,000 on this,better ramp up as the blogs will mean little when the message is on radio / television / billboards.
    – In essence you are in for a battle,get your gloves and $$$$$$ you will need 200k,or more

    There, now you really look foolish. Nothing says foolish more than your own words proving how foolish you actually are.

    Do yourself a favor and stop acting like a horse’s behind. If you really wanted to look smart, you’d get a job as a mime. You could do that mime bit where they pretend they’re in a box. You’ve already boxed yourself in with all of your prattle anyway so what the heck. The written, and I would guess spoken word as well, is not your friend.

  • Truthseeker says:

    Now we make Saffo and OGrady pay for being obstinate in refusing to go with the citizens desires.

  • Jim Rafferty says:

    @BigWhiskey. Way off base with your comments. Doing business with the City by providing them with products or services at competitive rates, is not close to what the City was trying to do with the Tax Payers and Tax Payers monies. The City even went so far as to give Mandalay an exclusive agreement.

    Hey,BIGWHISKEY – are you the same person who signed onto the VoteNO web site in order to secure information for the Yes group through the VoteNo e-mail traffic? When you were exposed I recall extending you an invitation to remain on the e-mail list, but never received a response. Still want to be on the list?

  • Vog46 says:

    In the past you have claimed to have 3500 families in your data base. Assuming husband and wife that means you had 7000 YES votes from your data base. Your vote total was 15,000 rounded off.
    That means that 8000 outside votes.
    Thats a very poor showing
    There ware only less than a hundred on Scott Harrys mailing list if I recall – I never knew. But it seems as though their outreach was better.

    8000 outside votes and you supposedly raised $112,000.

    That’s $14 per outside vote.
    it’s no wonder Mandalay has said it’s over.
    $422,000 per stadium job created and you lost – costing them $14 per vote.
    For a private corporation like Mandalay that was an extremely bad, and costly, business decision.
    Hows does it feel to waste someone else’s money Chuck? Terry?


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