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StarNews: New Hanover school board will consider $284M bond

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By Pressley Baird
StarNewsOnline.com

A possible bond referendum for New Hanover County Schools got a price tag and projects Tuesday.

At a work session, members of the New Hanover County Board of Education agreed to vote on a $284 million bond referendum at their January meeting. That referendum, which would pay for a new elementary school in Porters Neck and two replacement elementary schools, could be put on the November 2013 ballot if approved by the school board and the county commissioners.

The new and replacement schools would cost about $16 million each, while the rest of the funding would pay for building renovations and technology improvements across the county.

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FIRST OF ALL, NONE OF THESE

FIRST OF ALL, NONE OF THESE SCHOOLS ARE WITHIN MY AREA. THESE ARE NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS. (SEGREGATION?)ALSO, A STUDY NEEDS TO BE CONDUCTED ABOUT HOW MANY STUDENTS GO TO THESE SCHOOLS THAT ARE FROM OUT OF THEIR DISTRICT AND EVEN OUT OUT OF THE COUNTY. I,M SURE THERE ARE MANY.WHAT ABOUT THE OLDER SCHOOLS? DON'T THEY NEED HELP TO? I , FOR ONE, WILL VOTE AGAINST A BOND ISSUE. USE THE SCHOOLS WE HAVE.

Short-term memory

Funny, because when I voted in favor of the last school bond referendum, we were promised new elementary and middle schools would be built to alleviate the overcrowding in the Market St/Ogden area schools. The Board then used that money to purchase land all the way in Castle Hayne (in an industrial zone next to a remediated toxic superfund site). School board and school dept officials all claimed that there was no affordable dry land in the Porter's Neck area for the 2 new schools, hence the decision to build in Castle Hayne. Fast forward a few years and now, apparently there is land available in the PN area to build (at least) a new elementary school? My guess is the school board already has a site picked out off Hwy 421 near the landfill and that's where the new school will be located....just saying these folks talk out of both sides of their mouths.

School board needs remedial math

Please follow along:
595 students in new school in Porters neck
574 students in replaced Blair
574 students in replaced College Park

1743 students in new or replaced schools

The article says we're over capacity by 2500 students
2500 - 1743 = 757

In other words we're still short a very large school building in capacity for students.
We still have population growth in this area, in spite of the recession. Now I know that the overpopulation is not in one area or in one grade so we need to add student capacity to some other schools. Blair is off Market and just south of the Porters Neck new school so I believe the population in that area is growing more rapidly than other areas. Why not add 100 students to Blair and the new school and then do an addition to Pine Valley and Anderson elementary Ashley and Trask High schools?
Thoughts anyone?

Vog

KICK

all the illegals kids out...PROBLEM would ALMOST be fixed!

agreed 100%, simple math,

agreed 100%, simple math, the other side of the equation, more growth, more tax revenues, more money to spend on NECESSARY infrastructure, why then, does SAFFO and company want bonds???

I'm wrong

I need remedial math too (reading as well)
Blair and CP are replacement schools so their CURRENT population does not count as "NEW"
So this leaves us with:
2500 over capacity with ONE new school at 595 which leaves us with: 1905 over capacity after (if) the bond is passed.
(A second cup of coffee helped this morning)

I still think that given the population growth in NH County we might want to build ANOTHER school somewhere to help absorb that 1905 over capacity problem.

Vog

I am curious as to why they

I am curious as to why they need to replace Blair & College Park. How old are those schools? If the school system would maintain the buildings they have instead of letting them fall into disrepair they would not need replacement schools.

They need to look at how to better use the facilities they have before coming to the taxpayers asking for more money.

1971

There are times when replacement is far more cost effective than maintaining - this may be the case here.
CP is old as is Blair but not as old as Winter Park.

It's way too easy to just say they need to take care of what they've got before they ask for money. Clearly the schools are over crowded and Porter's Neck is a growing area.

But these new schools will just add to the problems we face with schools and that is we're trying to be too many things to too many people.
Year round
specialty schools of math technology and the arts
Traditional schools

Its way too much to balance.
All schools should go back to the original schedule (but extend that schedule) then we an take a look at neighborhood schools - but - I have a healthy degree of skepticism for that because I feel it's just a polite say to say "we wish to segregate our schools" again.
Lets go back to basics first

Vog