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SOUTHPORT, NC (WWAY) -- Some Moral Monday protestors had some unexpected company when when they showed up outside of Sen. Bill Rabon's office today.

For weeks the Brunswick County NAACP has planned to bring Moral Monday protests to the doorstep of Sen. Rabon (R-8th District).

"He has voted, as has the majority of the North Carolina Senate, to reduce the ability of the people of this district to vote," protestor Jim McNeil said.

Protestors claim Rabon's support of the voter ID law is an attempt to suppress votes for seniors, students, low wealth people and people of color.

"By reducing the number of hours that the early voting is open it makes it more difficult for people to get from rural places particularly to polling places," McNeil said.

But the NAACP protestors met a little friendly opposition on this Moral Monday, and their message was clear: Tap the brakes on the runaway criticism.

"It's just amazing to me that anybody would not want to have people identified and that people might not want every vote to count as a valid vote," Rabon supporter Elyse Brown said.

Rabon's supporters claim there is no reason not to have an ID, because they are needed for so many other vital parts of everyday life.

"In my opinion, people are against it, because they want to have a fraudulent vote," Brown said. "If you go to the airport, you need your ID. If you go to the doctor you need your ID. Without it you can vote 20 times. You could vote for dead people, and you hear all sorts of stories about people voting for other people because you don't have to have an ID."

While the protestors were along the road voicing their opinion Sen. Rabon's veterinary clinic was closed for lunch.

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Too many

People here are making the argument that you need an ID for blah blah blah so it should be needed to vote. Then there are others who say you MUST be illegal or something else if you con't have one and get off your butt get a job and be self sufficient.
C'mon - those are peripheral arguments.
Social Security recipients get direct deposit on their check - no need for ID.
Voters produce identification upon registering to vote. Drivers present other ID to get their? picture license!! The country had centuries of voting without picture ID.
Look lets face it - the REAL problem with voter fraud is NOT with the voter going into the booth - it's with absentee ballots which you can cast without a picture ID !!!!
The "pro" ID crowd has gone a little ditsy with their arguments here.
I would humbly suggest that anyone getting entitlements be forced to vote in order to continue to receive those entitlements. If you wish we could take their picture upon their fist vote cast! Think about all those welfare queens voting every election - who do you think they'd vote for?
Or is this just a veiled attempt to stop welfare queens from voting for politicians willing to give them more?
I have an ID and get get to the polls.
But the arguments here have gotten way out of control.
With todays technology picture IDs are becoming somewhat archaic and are used as a "once only" ID in many instances such as banking. I do NOT have to produce an ID to cash a check at my bank - SORRY. I do not have to produce an ID to write a check at Harris teeter - SORRY.
Stop with the silly arguments.

Vog

voter id

"SORRY. I do not have to produce an ID to write a check at Harris teeter"

And because of this cavalier attitude is why, as a business owner, I can refuse service and payment till you produce a valid form of identification.

Quit being lazy and have your ID out and ready so you don't slow up the line.

Pigeon chess

The arguments back and forth are amusing. One side is honestly arguing the merits of their position while the other side is knowingly lying and putting up a false argument about theirs.
Side A - Knows there is fraud and that fraud works to their advantage but puts up a false argument of restriction of rights. Side A knows there are mobile DMV units that go to areas where DMVs are scarce, knows that with a phone call any number of organizations can take you to the polls, knows that a free id can be provided and knows that the law does not prohibit early voting.
Side B - Honestly believes in the merits of a voter id system and how it protects their vote by making sure another vote is not illegally cast canceling out their vote. Side B does not realize they are in an argument with someone who is lying about and does not really believe in their stated position, they only repeat it over in an attempt to cover their real position. Fraud. Side B is playing chess with a pigeon.

SICK

Please tell me ( because all of you know everything there is ) how 75 people with disabilities just in shallotte will be able to vote... I have a full time job and its hard to make time to vote let alone get my mother from the home and help her vote ( with one day voting I doubt I will ever be able to vote again, bc NC does not have a law to require your right to take off work to vote), what about the other 74 people who most do not have family? They do not drive for many reasons, several cant walk or stand. So to say they can just find a way to the dmv and get an ID ( last month after medications my mother was left with $13.00 ) I pay for everything ...and we only need one day of voting. This has nothing to do with being Dem or Rep. If your willing to take away rights that do hurt people and prevent them from voting atleast have the polls go to them or pick them up. I dont care who you are, you have the right to vote!

Voting

You still have 10 days of early voting available. Add that to the actual election day and you have 11 days where you can vote. The change in the law also added more early voting places and increases the hours of operation.

Not to mention absentee voting.

For those who don't drive an ID is available at DMV for NO CHARGE.

Don't believe me? Fine. Look it up for yourself.

agree

Agree with you guest123456. people keep saying *well i know someone who was sick and still was able to vote* but yet they do not understand that some people in homes do not have family or friends to pick them up. That most buses only hold just a few people and it take a long time to load them up ( i know bc my sister works at a nursing home ) i asked her if where she works could she get everyone where they need to be to vote in one day and she said no. dont let people bully you, they must live under a rock and know nothing outside of their life or better yet they are unwilling to think about anyone else other then themself. ~Carrie

They didn't eliminate early

They didn't eliminate early voting. They just cut it back some.

It's easy

I am in the same position. My wife has been severely disabled for the past 20+ years. In addition to her care-giver, I am working a full-time job, doing all of the house-cleaning, cooking, yard work, driving her to the many doctor appointments she requires at least twice a week just about every week of the year, etc, etc.
How has this hectic schedule impacted her voting? -- We drive up to the polling station where there are assistants outside that allow the disabled to vote from the car. It takes all of five minutes. That will not change now because of the new law. The only difference is she will now have to show an ID. Big deal...my wife has had to show her ID for quite some time already when she picks up some meds from the pharmacy which is no different from driving up to the polling station and showing her ID there now.
My mother-in-law is in an assisted living facility and it is the same with her. The facility takes those that wish to vote out on a field-trip to the polling station. That won't change now. The only difference is that the residents will have to show an ID...the very same ID that is already required for residents to possess while staying at the assisted living facility.
Don't you want your Mom's vote to count? If so, please stop making lame excuses for a voting law that could prevent voter fraud from cancelling your Mom's vote.
Wishing your Mom (and her vote) the best...

PS

Your comment that everyone in the Homes are required to have an ID is silly. My mother has not had one in years. New hanover placed her in the Home, not once did I ever have to show ID, just gave them her DOB,SSN and Name. The facility has an on staff doctor so there is no need for her to leave.

WOW

Wow crazy..Happy you only have to think about one person. Please in detail do tell me how in just one day I can take 14 people to vote? Last year I couldnt do it in just one day. Im happy you only have to worrie about one persons rights, sorry i consider them as humans. My mother is only one example in a home of 76 people. yes i consider her to be lucky because she is one of the few that has a family member to visit and help her. Many do not have ANY friends or family. But thank you for knowing all, very happy you have lived our experences also. oh wait you have not. I bet you take a day off to vote, I bet you get a chance to take a day off to vote. Do you live in Shallotte? Nobody came to my car to help me get her in or the others. But its easy to get it all done on a 30 min lunch.

It does effect... if you

It does effect... if you have one day voting and I get a 30 min lunch, I do not have the time to pick her up, sign the forms to take her on a day trip and drive to the location 8 miles from where she is at and vote then return her back then drive back to work. NC is 1 out of 6 states where your job does not have to give you the time to vote!!! But thank you for knowing our life so well and the others in the home that have no family or a day transportation to take them all at once to the polls... last year I went 3 different days to help people vote because they had no other way....so are you willing to drive to shallotte and help me next time?? considering you know everything.

Funny

how I have an elderly family member who hasn't driven in 50 years, yet she managed to get a valid NC ID years ago and makes arrangements to get to the polls to vote. It's not that difficult...

Congrats

I understand where guest123456 is coming from. Happy your person can find a ride, but i understand that not everyone can. so the ones that dont have friends and family, that depend on strangers or people who donate their time may not be able to help them all get to vote in just a day. so with that cutting the voting days does take voting rights away from a person. elder people get sick...disabeled people get sick..most nursing homes can only hold just a few people in a bus at one time ( sometimes it takes an hr to get a few people ready for a trip) i know bc my sister works at a nursing home. if there is 50+ people wanting to vote, in one day they will not have time.

just because

just because you know someone who got there how do you know others are able to. does this person have friends? family? most of the people in theis home do not have friends or family. most are unwanted. my mothers roomate has not seen her family in 4 years and they live in the same town. dont assume

Perhaps a Poll Tax is needed...

A poll tax...or some other ...."Test"
As it would appear that select voters cannot make arrangements 2 and 3 years in advance to vote, there certainly is some deficiency on the capacity of the voter to prepare or make judgments...The Date of voting is commonly known is it not?

Why...this diminished capacity falls right in line with what Democrats think of everyday citizens. We cannot drive the proper car with out government aid, we cannot eat the "right" foods, we cannot obtain our own healthcare, we cannot be trusted with 32 oz sodas, not trusted to teach our children about sex... Why, how in the heck can we be trusted to cast a vote? Yes... a poll test might be in order.

Or at minimum, we must allow these select voters an opportunity to elevate their skill and educational level UP to that of a Uniformed Solider stationed over seas who do (unless the current admin get involved as before) have the capacity to vote .

Immoral Monday people are LOW information voters...

most of them are entirely TOO stupid to be allowed to vote!

STRIVE to be SMARTER than the EVIL CORRUPT democrackkks WANT you to BE, Fools!

Joke

Yes we are evil DEM's. I'm an evil Dem that works 40+ hours a week, pays taxes, donates 10+ hours a week to a personal outreach program along with other events in my local area ( last night 6 hours on just one event). We are horrible, uneducated people. OMG to top it off I grew up on foodstamps, got free school lunch, and lived in a goverment funded home with a parent with a severe disability....just horrible the state took care of us so that I could grow up and take care of others in need. JUST HORRIBLE!!!!!! ITS an outrage!!!!
Sorry us Dem's think about everyone before we deside to remove a persons right away just to make others happy. So while i pick up dontations tonight and stay up to midnight boxing them up I will pray to GOD that he forgives me for being a DEM.
But guess what this evil DEM has the right to vote!!!!!!

Voter ID

I find it disturbing that people use driving, healthcare and the library as comparisons to voting. There is one major and absolutely important difference; VOTING IS A RIGHT and all the other comparisons are privileges. When a group or mob try to restrict a RIGHT, it does not matter what the excuses are, it is wrong. Our legislators are hell bent on restricting our RIGHT and they have yet to come up with anything that would justify this move.

No one is restricting

No one is restricting anyone's right to vote. They are just asking us to prove we have the right to vote. I do have to have an ID to drive. I do have to have an ID to get a library card. I have to have an ID to see a doctor, to pick up certain medications and to write a check. I have to show and ID to rent a car and to board a commercial airplane. In order to keep someone else from using my credit card, I do not sign the back so that the cashier is required to ask for an ID. If I have to prove who I am for the everyday, mundane things of life, then I should have to prove that I have the right to do do the most powerful thing I can do as a citizen of the United States.

Voting Rights

"hell bent on restricting our Right"...really? This is such a lame argument. What justifies this is the demorats desire to place fraudulent votes. It happens..it's documented. And in as much as you want to continue the status quo, the Republicans are in the majority now and the overwhelming majority of NC citizens want the voter id law. We want a just and verifiable election process. So take your fraud, lame arguments and demorat talking points, and get the hell over it. If you don't have id, and can't manage to get one before
2016, we're probably better off with you staying home IMHO.

To stand in the driveway,

To stand in the driveway, parking lot, or entrance to a fellow citizen's place of business to protest specifically against that citizen's political position (whether that citizen is holds political office or not) is inappropriate and unnecessary. Why potentially disrupt someone's livelihood? Does anyone really believe that is an acceptable form of political protest? Or is it vindictive and judgmental behavior aimed at punishing the targeted citizen?

To debate another person's political view, whether on a specific subject or in general, is certainly within the rights of any American citizen.

Too many responders to this article are angry and they are venting their anger in personal ways. When I think of America and the people of America, I think of people that have the grace and maturity to respect another person's views whether they have been expressed in speech, by vote, or, as in this case, by voting to pass any law as an elected representative of the people. That is the very essence of the American democratic republic.

Have you lost it

We the people have the right to protest. Just because you may not have the courage to do so does not mean we dont. I pay taxes and I get to deside how I get heard, because it looks like the system is not talking to its people but only thinking of what they want. And before you say they are thinking about their people...answer is no because they have not sent out a poll to see what people want, they have not questioned anyone to see why it would be okay to hurt people. If they went to major NC Schools they would find out that many voting rights are being taken away from students and those students are angry.... among many other groups. Please do your homework, if you have no idea who this is hurting then educate yourself on this topic before you go online.

Found it

Yes, the people have a right to protest. That wasn't the issue raised. The issue raised was whether protestors have the right to obstruct a place of business. Do you perceive that as a right? If so, let us know where you are employed and we'll give that 'right' a go. You can get back to us on how that worked out for you.

"REAL AMERICANS"

"Real Americans" have every right to peacefully protest wherever it is they are able to get their representatives to listen. THAT's "Real American."

Real Americans

I am glad you have that opinion. If you believe so strongly in that right will you please go to the overpasses and protect the Impeach Obama protesters from police? Based on your belief, this should be the front lines of your fight, or is it "every right to peacefully protest" only when it fits your opinion?

the voter suppression

the voter suppression legislation is taking North Carolina BACKWARDS...period:

"North Carolina had traditionally been a state where few people voted. It was ranked 47th in the country in voter participation in 1991, but rose to 34th in 2000 because of changes in the law to make voting easier. It rose to 21st in 2008 and to 11th in the country in 2012."

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/17/3115208/college-students-will-hav...

The right to vote

If there were evidence that folks are casting fraudulent votes, I might understand. But this is complete nonsense. C'mon folks. Look at our history. NC, like so many other states, systematically kept certain people from voting. It's the very same folks this time. Do you not see the pattern? The only way these Republicans can guarantee long-term their re-election is to exclude certain folks from voting. Do you or do you not believe in democracy? If not, own up to it and admit to at least yourselves who you are. If you DO believe in democracy, realize that lots of people DIED to win this right. For God's sake, be on the RIGHT side this time. See this for what it is.

The Right To Vote reply

Exactly, who can't show up at the polls and vote? We all have the same eligibility requirements, fair and square. I am more concerned about fraudulent voting than I am about not being able to cast my ballot. I hear this hysteria about 'keeping certain people' from voting. Who can't vote that meets the requirements? Again, we all meet the same 'bar.' I love Voter ID. Let us know when an eligible legal ID carrying voter is turned away at the polls.

the right to vote.....

First, please check your words before typing something wrong. The Democrats were in charge of the South throughout the "racist era" of the South. As a matter of fact, The Jim Crow Laws were put into place by....The Democrats. They took control of both US House and Senate in 1878 and began their reign of bad laws.....once again. So, before you spout out any more of your sappy, whinny, woe is me, republicans are evil bs, please get your information right!

The right to vote

Dear Ma'am,

Who is excluding people from the right to vote?? If the state was giving out $100.00 bills, and all you had to do to collect was show a valid ID. You can bet that the same ones that don't want to show a form of identification to cast a ballot. Would line the streets with VALID ID in hand to claim that $100.00 dollar bill. So the ignorance, that Democrat's have about showing a valid ID, is just that IGNORANT! The Democratic party doesn't want ID's so they can have people cast more that one vote, since there is no way in verifying who has voted. I cant believe anyone would not want to make sure that John Doe voted as John Doe. To think anyway other than that is ludicrous! When you opened up your Bank acct, you showed an ID. When you opened up your PO Box you showed an ID. So what is so different, you want to vote present a State issued ID. You talk about people dying for so that others may have democracy. Have you ever served the U.S in any branch of the Military????? Well I served in the U.S Army for 23yrs, I have 7 Combat tours under my belt. So I know I earned the right, how about you!!!!!!!!!!

Regards,
1SG America