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SOUTHPORT, NC (WWAY) -- Some Moral Monday protestors had some unexpected company when when they showed up outside of Sen. Bill Rabon's office today.

For weeks the Brunswick County NAACP has planned to bring Moral Monday protests to the doorstep of Sen. Rabon (R-8th District).

"He has voted, as has the majority of the North Carolina Senate, to reduce the ability of the people of this district to vote," protestor Jim McNeil said.

Protestors claim Rabon's support of the voter ID law is an attempt to suppress votes for seniors, students, low wealth people and people of color.

"By reducing the number of hours that the early voting is open it makes it more difficult for people to get from rural places particularly to polling places," McNeil said.

But the NAACP protestors met a little friendly opposition on this Moral Monday, and their message was clear: Tap the brakes on the runaway criticism.

"It's just amazing to me that anybody would not want to have people identified and that people might not want every vote to count as a valid vote," Rabon supporter Elyse Brown said.

Rabon's supporters claim there is no reason not to have an ID, because they are needed for so many other vital parts of everyday life.

"In my opinion, people are against it, because they want to have a fraudulent vote," Brown said. "If you go to the airport, you need your ID. If you go to the doctor you need your ID. Without it you can vote 20 times. You could vote for dead people, and you hear all sorts of stories about people voting for other people because you don't have to have an ID."

While the protestors were along the road voicing their opinion Sen. Rabon's veterinary clinic was closed for lunch.

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Right

Well, hero, I served too but you don't see my ignorant ass trying to use that to an advantage of some sort. I guess that is why you mention it, because it certainly has nothing to do with this.
The difference is bank accounts, p.o. boxes, cashing checks, etc. is not a right of all US citizens. Voting is a right that everyone has whether or not yhey possess an ID.

Why do you object to

Why do you object to American citizens proving that they have the right to vote?

Right?????

Dear Ignorant A%%,

If you were smart enough to read and comprehend, you would have read the original message. You would see that Ms Wilson stated people have DIED to have the right to vote. Well, I have served and have lost Soldiers, so no one knows better than me the PRICE OF FREEDOM. Which enables people like your self who claim to have served and if so probably did so state side and not in a Combat zone. So now go read the whole exchange and you will see now why I mentioned MY MILITARY service.

Regards,
1SG America

Wrong!!

Who cares about you, hero? I served where they told me to go and you can believe I wasn't sitting over here on my butt. So get on with your life and quit bragging because there are millions of people like us who served. You should know you fought for all people to vote, not just the ones YOU think should. The USA has had an all volunteer army since just after I joined in 1972, so you probably joined because you couldn't find a real job. So keep playing the martyr role; it seems to suit you.

It makes no difference

It makes no difference whether the commenter served in the military. Nobody cares if you served in the military (except you). You did not necessarily earn anything, not even your pension. You should give some respect, then you might get some in return (without screaming what a military hero you are).

It makes a difference to me

It makes a difference to me that someone put their life on the line 7 times. You're a clueless little dolt to say such things to our military men and women. What have you done in your life? I bet nothing, you think you're doing something by standing with these immoral, unethicals clowns on voter ID. There was cheating, there were ignorant people preying upon the metally disabled signing them up as democrats to vote. People that are clearly not able or even aware of voting were being used by idiots like yourself. How great is your country now? This country is in shambles thanks to this inexperienced George Soros puppet. I bet you show that id to buy your alcohol without so much as a wimper.

Thank You!

Thanks for your support!!

WRONG FACTS

YOU SAID THAT THE DEM'S ARE SIGNING MENTALLY ILL TO VOTE DEM. WHAT A JOKE. MY MOTHER IS ILL AND AT A HOME. REP SUPPORTERS WENT TO HER HOME AND OFFERED THEM RIDES TO THE POLL IF THEY COULD DISCUSS WHY VOTING REP WOULD HELP THIS NATION. I REFUSED TO LET MY MOTHER ATTEND THAT MEETING WITH OUT ME AND I WOULD DO THE SAME FOR ANY PARTY. EVERYONE HAS AN AGENDA. SO DONT SPOUT A FACT UNLESS YOU LIVED IT. BECAUSE I DID LAST YEAR.

Ask her

Ask your mother to show you where the 'caps lock' key is located. Then never press it again because you have abused that privilege.

You've got a right to vote, the people have the right...

...to require identification to do so. Just like the identification I have to have to rent a room, rent a car, buy an airline ticket, cash a check, buy a beer, drive a car, ride a motorcycle, get sudafed, etc.

There is no voter suppression going on here. Anyone that doesn't have a valid ID these days is either living in the dark ages or are an illegal alien. You people always portray yourselves as the victim. Get off your lazy asses, get a job, be productive in society and take control of your own lives. Stop allowing the gubb'ment to do it for you!

If I didn't know better, the democrats seem scared to death of this ID thing. It must mean that they'll lose all of those illegal, cheating votes and won't be able to maintain their fat pocket political seat. It is fully abhorrant to maintain a political position based on keeping people poor, in the dark and making them feel like they're getting more free stuff...absolutely unbelievable!

It really is quite simple.

In order to vote, one must be registered. Anyone who has ever gone to the polls to vote knows that the poll staff require a name from any voter wishing to register their vote. Once the voter's name has been confirmed as eligible to vote (because they had to be registered), that person's name is then crossed off the list, and permission/access to cast one's ballot is granted. This process does not require any proof from the person wishing to vote; they simply have to state their name, be confirmed as registered to vote, and then vote.

For those who are against requiring an ID, I have two simple questions that no one on that side of the fence has yet been able to answer: How would you feel if you showed up to cast your vote and were then told that someone has already used your name and voted? Would you still be against requiring an ID if someone had stolen your vote?

For those who gripe about fewer locations or available days to vote, you're being ridiculous, and it's time someone pointed it out to you. Our nation has a LONG history of holding Election Day once a year. Early voting is granted in many areas as a convenience, NOT a guarantee. If voting in an election means so much to you, you'll make the time and you'll find a way to make it happen.

These measures DO NOT "reduce the ability of the people of this district to vote", Mr. McNeil. These measures guarantee that votes are not stolen. These measures guarantee that only those registered are allowed to vote.

I have NEVER been asked for

I have NEVER been asked for an ID at a doctor's office; insurance card, yes; photo ID, no.

So many of us drive that we fail to realize that many do not. That is why all our towns have bus service. Low income folks cannot afford to buy a car and insurance. They take a bus. Low income folks are not likely to fly, either.

Voting is a constitutionally granted right. Getting on a plane or buying sudafed is not.

This requirement makes everyone guilty unless they can prove themselves innocent. That is very un-American. Cross-checking records between registered voters and NC drivers licenses shows that over 300,000 people are registered to vote but do not have a driver's license. And guess what? Over 67,000 of them are Republicans.

Some of our counties do not have a DMV office. Recent news stories have highlighted that the DMV 'van' used to service these counties is out of order and it may be some time before it is fixed. Meanwhile, people there cannot even renew licenses let alone get them. In other counties, DMV offices are not open 5 days a week and may not be serviced by bus lines, so those who cannot drive cannot get there.

You say a driver's license can be free for those who need them; but the supporting documents are not. It costs money to get copies of birth certificates, marriage or divorce documents, etc. And then, if your name is not exactly the same you are going to have trouble. My elderly aunt ordered a copy of her birth certificate; it did not give a first name but call her Baby Girl. How would she get a license with that, given the demands placed upon us by the NCGA???

a reminder that the law will

a reminder that the law will provide these 'supporting' documents for free for those that cannot afford them.

If you draw unemployment,

If you draw unemployment, Social security, or simply cash a check you have to have a ID. Sorry, i dont buy your excuse people cant get out to the DMV offices. Well how are they getting out to the voting polls??

Most social security

Most social security recipients have direct deposit so there is no need for an ID card....and the state issued ID cards will have a cost associated with them, somebody has to pay, nothing is free! The citizens of NC will be picking up the tab for an extra one, two or three million dollars.

ID?

So if these SS recipients have direct deposit, they didn't need some form of ID to get that set up in the first place? They didn't need to show some form of ID at the bank in which the account is held for the direct deposit to go into?
You make no sense and just like all the rest of them, just fishing for some reason to make this a negative and to place blame. Its always someone else's fault.

Voter ID

For the life of me I can't see why people are so against voter ID. If I have nothing to hide I'd be glad to show ID when I show up at the polls to vote. On the other hand if I'm there voting for my dead neighbor or relative I can see what the fuss is all about. When McNeil said, "ID law is an attempt to suppress votes for seniors, students, low wealth people and people of color." What do we have two elections a year? These poor people that are being suppressed can't make it twice a year to vote? I bet they can make it to Bolivia to sign up for food stamps. Do they have to have an ID to collect the government handouts? I know the students have to have ID to go to school. BTW ID is free at your local DMV so try to get by there before the next election so you can vote these lawmakers out of office if you don't like the way they are running the state, and in the main time why don't you stay away from their place of businesses.

Voter UD

Jim NcNeil could at least tell the truth. Early voting hours have not been cut- same number of hours as last election

Not everyone goes to the

Not everyone goes to the doctor or airport!! What about people who no longer have NCDL, especially elderly? During last election several older folks expressed concern about the ID! All people have the right to vote! And, voting should be very accessible.

No DL

Yes all people do have the right to vote. All legal valid voters also have the right to a state issued ID card from the DMV. You don't need to have your Drivers license, so the elderly don't have an argument there, and I doubt its the elderly that are even arguing that point. For $10 you can get a government issued ID that is just as good as a drivers license just that it doesn't allow you to drive. There, problem solved. Therefore the voting is VERY accessible to all who are legal eligible voters.
Anyone who does not have a valid ID or DL doesn't have one for a very good reason, and is more than likely not eligible to vote in the US. But if you don't have a DL, then no matter what your driving record or your history or who you are...black, white, elderly, young, underprivledge, overprivledged whatever, everyone has access to get a state issued ID from the DMV.

Even better

Starting Jan 1 2014 the DMV wont charge at all for the ID card. Currently there is no fee for those over 70 years of age, blind, homeless or had a drivers license canceled due to a physical or mental disability or disease.

What do you call the non

What do you call the non acceptance of a college issued photo ID? The colleges go to great lengths to prove the identity of their enrolled students.

It's called Partisan Polticis...at its worst.

The non acceptance of a

The non acceptance of a college ID is to prevent students from voting back home and voting in the precinct where they are attending college.

There was a man who posted on this subject a while back who said that his son is going to BCC. He received a document in the mail that he had to present to the college in order to obtain his student ID. He was not asked for any proof of who he was before they issued an ID.

College IDs

You don't have to be a citizen to go to college so college ids don't mean you have the right to vote.

IDs

You don't have to be a citizen to get a driver's license either.

Of course it's discriminatory

I think the thing that is missing here is that not only is ID is NOT required to be a citizen but those who do not have photo id are more likely to be poor and elderly. Add that to the additional restrictions that have been put in place by this administration and it looks like a clear case of voter suppression. And yes, I am a real American and I will share my opinion anytime and anywhere I choose, I think the founders would agree with the protestors and not those who are concerned about manners.

Until folks can understand

Until folks can understand what it means to be poor and/or under-educated, it'll be impossible to reason with them, ie too many people can't afford to go to the doctor and the poor don't know they need an ID at an airport. I know an 89 year old man who pulled his own teeth because he couldn't afford a dentist. He doesn't drive anymore, but he does walk to his polling place to vote every election.

Instituionalized

An 89 year old man who has pulled out his own teeth should clearly have been institutionalized years ago and should definitely not be voting. Same with the "under-educated". I mean, how did that happen? Education is free. These are not "under-educated" they are actual idiots. If you are so "under-educated" (after required free education) that you don't know you need an I.D. at the airport, well and to drive to the airport etc. then you are and idiot. No I.D., no vote. It's as close to a no idiots law as were likely to get... so of course libs will be against it.

If idiots are not allowed to

If idiots are not allowed to vote, then I expect you not to be at the polls during future elections.

Reply

Let me reply to a few of your rants....................
An 89 year old man who has pulled out his own teeth should clearly have been institutionalized years ago and should definitely not be voting.( SOME PEOPLE ARE POOR, VERY POOR, PROB A POOR YOU HAVE NEVER KNOWN. AND FYI THE STATE DOES NOT TAKE PEOPLE IN BECAUSE THE PULL THEIR OWN TEETH, A PERSON PULLING THEIR TEETH DOES NOT MAKE THEM ILL. IT TOOK ME YEARS TO GET MY MOTHER IN A HOME, A MOTHER WHO WOULD GO DAYS WITHOUT EATING AND CANT GIVE HERSELF A PROPER BATH.BUT GUESS WHAT, SHE HAS THE RIGHT TO VOTE AS LONG AS ITS HER VOTE. WHEN I TAKE HER TO THE POLLS, I DONT TELL HER WHO I VOTE FOR, I MAKE HER DO HER HOMEWORK ON IT AND WHAT EFFECTS HER. BUT OMG Im a DEM, A HORRIBLE DEM THAT FORCES MY THOUGHTS ON EVERYONE.

Same with the "under-educated". I mean, how did that happen? Education is free. These are not "under-educated" they are actual idiots.( JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE IS SLOW DOES NOT MEAN THEY DONT UNDERSTAND THE EVENTS IN TODAYS WORLD, I HAVE A FRIEND WHO WENT TO DUKE, WHO HAS TO HAVE A READING HELPER BECAUSE OF A DISABILITY, OR LETS THINK ABOUT IT. THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE IN BRUNSWICK AND OTHER AREAS THAT IN THE 50'S, 60'S CHILDREN GREW UP POOR AND HAD TO WORK ON FARMS AND DROP OUT OF SCHOOL...SO PLEASE SIR STEP OUT OF YOUR LITTLE BUBBLE.
MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, DID YOU GROW UP HERE? DO YOU KNOW ANYONE DIFFERENT THAN YOURSELF? HAVE YOU EVER WORKED WITH ELDER PEOPLE? THE POOR? PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES? WELL SIR I HAVE... BY THE TIME I WAS SEVEN I WAS FEEDING MY PARENT, NOT ONCE DID I HAVE HELP WITH HOMEWORK AND TAUGHT MYSELF TO READ. YEP GREW UP ON HUD AND FOODSTAMPS AND PROUD BECAUSE IT MADE ME A HUMBLE PERSON, AND I WILL ALWAYS BE THANKFUL FOR THIS HARDSHIP.