Teen shot and killed riding moped on Forest Hills Drive

Tags: , , ,

Submitted: Sun, 09/22/2013 - 3:59am
Updated: Mon, 09/23/2013 - 5:38pm

WILMINGTON, NC (WWAY) — A Wilmington teenager is dead after police say he was shot and killed during a drive-by shooting in Forest Hills late this afternoon.

Police responded to the 00 block of Forest Hills Drive around 4:30 p.m. after residents reported hearing several gunshots. When officers arrived they found Joseph David Williams, 18, of Wilmington lying in the street with a gunshot wound to the back. Police say Williams was riding on the back of a moped with Mark Richie, Jr., 18, when the shooting happened.

Witnesses told police that the moped was going at a high rate of speed down Forest Hills Drive, and a grey Honda Coupe was following with one of the passengers firing shots at the two teenagers.

Police say Williams was pronounced dead at the scene. Richie was treated for minor injuries and released.

Police are asking for your help. If you have any information about this crime call the Wilmington Police Department at (910) 343-3609, text Crimes (274637) start your text message with “Tip708″ then type your message or call Crime Stoppers at (800) 531-9845.

(Photo by Julian March/StarNewsOnline.com)


  • Guestifer says:

    Give Stukes a break. I’m sure the auto correct on the Obamaphone was changing the words. You knew what was meant.

  • GuestGUN says:

    Really, do you think that the gun that shot this young man was legal? I am sure it wasn’t. The gun law you are referring too has nothing to do with this. The only way they will end up on the street again is if they are stolen. The deals and the people who purchase them, would have to apply for a permit to get them.

    It is people like you and Obama that think gun laws work. Maybe you need to move to Chicago where they have the toughest gun laws. That way you will feel safe.

    I’m sorry with all the gun laws Chicago is still the murder Capital of the World..

  • beach guy says:

    The guns that civilians own will not even begin to compare to the ones the military and the LE community have ,if you knew anything at all about guns and were not repeating the gun grabbing administrations mantra and actually did some research you would know these things and be able to form an opinion of your own instead of repeating the drool put forth by obama finestien pelosi and the rest of idiots row but no you have to call people unintelligent.
    The second amendment was put in place to protect the average citizen from the government that the constitution created.
    The first thing that Hitler did was to remove gun rights from Germany’s citizens.Do you think it is legal to own a gun in russia or china how about n.korea? Americans with guns are what keep this country the free republic it is not the goodwill of the people you continue to support. Even when the country is going down the spiral into socialism. When a parent cannot speak out at a school board meeting without getting arrested and the government manipulates the markets by bond purchases where IRS can target any group it wishes. and control every aspect of energy. How much longer can this last? What do you think Five dollar gas is going to do to food production? The government is either controlling or exerting its influence on every aspect of our lives. I am an honest law abiding citizen and have worked and paid taxes and social security since I was 17 that”s around 35 years and for what? So people like you can take away my GOD given rights. Ever take an oath charlie? I have and it was to protect my country against all enemies foreign and domestic there are a lot of others out there that took the same one and they will recognize the one I am speaking of. I do not forget my oaths because that is the definition of honor it’s what separates us from the slime in the world that would trade their freedom for a yoke.

  • mike G says:

    I like! Also sounds like a very peaceful neighborhood. Can’t be in NHC.

  • A Friend says:

    Its sad that every time a crime happens the first thing people go posting is a mugshot. So it seems like your saying because he had a drug charge justifieds him being shot down. No it doesn’t. Doesn’t seem like any of you knew JD. He touched a lot of people and was loved by a lot of people. Everyone is going to miss that BEAUTIFUL SMILE. R.I.P JD We love you and miss you. Praying for your family. R.I.P JD.

  • Guest111 says:

    It seems like someone is shot every other day around here. This has got to stop even if you have to bring in a gang task force or even the military and use military courts. They get the job done quickly and efficiently. It’s getting to the point you second guess yourself about going to the mall or Walmart or even walking down your street. I can’t imagine a car chasing a moped while shooting at kids. Sounds like the days of Al Capone.

  • F_H_History says:

    Statistically speaking, Crime is much lower now than ever, in Forest Hills. But, Forest Hills is and has always been the highest crime neighborhood in the city. Back in the 60’s and 70’s, it was routine for elderly widowed women to get raped, beaten, robbed or killed in their homes. And mysteriously, most were ‘unsolved’ and no one ever got prosecuted for these crimes! What’s worse is that many times it was the Thug adult children of the elite-and-in-charge caucasian Wilmingtonians who were doing the crimes!

  • Vog46 says:

    This ain’t exactly “the hood” now is it?
    Let me say it for you
    Maybe we need another gun buy back
    Maybe we should ban mopeds
    Maybe we should ban Gray Honda coupes
    Maybe we should ban passengers in cars?
    Or maybe have a teen buy back program?
    Ban all arms? (No not guns, the things that come out of your shoulders)

    This was MURDER. The kid was shot in the back.
    I hope they catch this shooter and make it a capital crime……

    (Wishful thinking I know)


  • Guest49 says:

    Mr Richie got out of prison on 8/30 on 2 felony drug related charges. I know this is not the hood but Confederate Drive is nearby.

  • Calvin&Calvin says:

    The religious community and social services and God-Knows-Who-Else need to band together to try to understand *why* so many of our young black males are involved in violent crime.

    I have two sons, raised in the church, with a strong work ethic, and good morals, and they are model citizens of the community. Why are they model citizens? They had TWO responsible parents to model and mold their behavior. We inculcated into our sons an attitude of moral ethics that is a part of their beings.

    What is happening in our black communities is–and this has been stated thousands of times–young black, single females are raising boys on their own (half-way raising them), and there is no responsible masculine influence.

    It’s time for the preachers in the Wilmington area–especially those in neighborhoods where crime is rampant–to address this issue of young black male crime and address it seriously. Furthermore, there needs to be more organizations that provide black male mentors to these young men.

    Only the black community itself can turn things around. Are we willing to make the effort? This is the question. We have been too complacent for too long.

    Let’s stop blaming and making excuses and, instead, do something to reach these young men who are likely to adopt the thug lifestyle.
    And one last thing: It’s time responsible blacks ATTACK the violent thug lifestyles CELEBRATED in Hip Hop. I believe RAP has had a terrible negative effect on young men, especially young black men from the lower-socioeconomic sections of our city. Time to get to work.

  • Renae says:

    I have always been taught the saying Ye without sin cast the first stone, well he may have had a criminal record but what was his crime on yesterday? Seems to me that him and his friend were just out riding, unless I am mistaken. The ones that did it ARE cowards, they shot him in the back!!! I dont care,what the problem was between these people. It was handled in the wrong way and I hope that they are caught and get very long sentences,if not the death penalty.

  • your friend says:

    It doesn’t matter if he had a record or not, HE WAS KILLED! HE WAS SHOT IN HIS BACK! A mother has to bury her child because these young thugs are too afraid to have a good old fashion fist fight. These killings HAVE TO STOP! This young man life was taken away for NO REASON! RIP JD, you’ll be missed.

  • Guest Reply Redux says:

    …and request a film crew, and a story done on a *once* “Sleepy Little Beach Town”, whose citizens have now so many issues to deal with: (To mention a few)
    Your storyline:

    1. Crime rates expanding on a weekly basis.

    2. You have a Police Chief that activates a so called “Plea Bargain Program” to gang shooters called “A Cease Fire”…which not only was turned over to religious groups to enforce by asking criminals to stop shooting at one another, but also has an “End Date” of September 27th, 2013. (Why stop there you may ask yourself?) Good question!

    3. Police Chief Ralph Evangelous, and the WPD, release new statistics on 9/16/13 that crime in Wilmington as initially dropped within the decade (28%/67%)…only to be followed (shortly thereafter) by *new reports* of crimes committed in the area following 9/16/13 (shootings/robberies):

    To the best of my understanding…not once have I read an article in the Wilmington local news, where Mayor Bill Saffo has stood next to Chief Evangelous in a news interview, and promised the citizens of Wilmington, that he would fully support any actions taken by the WPD, to help put an end to these types of crimes, in a city of which he is the Mayor of. What you do read involving Saffo is, about any negotiations that will take place in regards to a hotel deal next to the Convention Center. Your Mayor at work, and really concerned it seems, about crime in the same city he wants to prosper into a major tourist trap, and Real Estate deals forthcoming. Nothing more from Saffo…nothing less except Real Estate…his real desire.

    So there are just a few examples of the leadership qualities (IMO) in Wilmington of today…and a City Hall *set of steps* that citizens have the right to stand upon, and protest the weakness of their leaders. There’s your news story WWAY…and moreover if enough citizens request that “60 Minutes” do a story on the corruption that has unfolded over the many years of the “Sleepy Little Beach Town”.
    PS: If that were to take place involving 60 Minutes…you would hear their reporter say several times in their report that…”such and such in City Hall couldn’t be reached for any comment”.
    Think not? Your crime is spreading rapidly, and empty promises from your leaders is just that…Empty.

  • PublicAvenger says:

    He certainly wasn’t exactly a innocent little boy, on his way to the store, to buy candy, for his little brother. But, then again, neither was Trayvon.

  • Christan Stukes says:

    all of you saying negative things about this boy deserve to be wiped off, yes he was involved with gangs but he was a good kid taken in by the streets after his panther passed away in 2006. you people have no heart if you think just because he was imprisones he’s a bad person that deserves to be killed. he was my god brother and had never heart me or my family. grow up and mature before you comment negative things about a teenage boys death.

  • GRR says:

    OK. The kid had a record…But does this warrant being gunned down, shot in the back in broad daylight? I don’t live in Wilmington, but wish the people would wake up and see what they are doing to themselves and families.. We live in a sad society today and the future doesn’t look in brighter. I don’t know this kid but I have kids and am praying for his family..

  • Guest45 says:

    If Williams was a drug dealer then good riddance, slim chance it may have been a family member of one of his clients, whatever, one more off the street! One other thing, with all those unmarked LEO cars running around how does this happen?

  • Another guy tired of the lies says:

    I keep hearing that it was a kid, a teenager, a poor innocent soul. Well neither he nor Mark Richie were innocent. They are part of a gang that is at war with another blood gang. Something that has been covered up by the media and the local law enforcement. It is only going to get worse, if we dont start putting these guys away for the multiple crimes they commit each year. No more plea bargains to lesser charges to make it easier for the DA. Start dealing with these gangs as local terrorists.

  • Mother says:

    Raise up your children in the way they shall go and they shall never depart. It starts at home people. This violence will stop when mothers and fathers take a stand to raise their children right (or just raising them at all is a start). I am so sick of hearing this mess about blacks are minorities, always at a disadvantage to other races, blah, blah, blah. Really? These awful acts of violence have nothing to do with skin color. The color of this man’s skin is not what left him dead…violence occurs between people and all begins with how they were raised and how they decide to live their life based on his morals and upbrings (or lackthereof). I am so sick of this old, outplayed race card. Martin Luther King stood up and ultimately faced death to bring forth equality in a time in which segregation was real and racisim was rampant–a time in which whites treated blacks the way they were raised to treat them–they knew no better. It started at home! Do you think MLK would be proud standing here today knowing what he done and the sacrafices he made for trends to have shifted to where everytime something doesn’t go quite the way the blacks want, it’s racist? To where there are groups such as the NAACP speaking out about every issue and showing prejudice towards the white race? Do you think he would be proud of all black colleges? All black beauty pageants? Come on! It’s not about race! When we stop making it about what color God made your skin, we will live in a better place. When we realize we are not doomed to violence or another trend that is stereotyped as being part of our “race”, we will wake up and see the real problem–it starts in the home! One love for all!

  • Angry citizen says:

    This POS and the one who shot him have been shooting at each other all day.. WPD was back to back on shots fired calls because of them. It would have been him or the other guy, both convicted felons.. I have no respect for them nor their families that allow it or stand by and do nothing. Better to see them dead rather then building up their felony convictions and eventually killing an innocent law abiding citizen later down the road.

    Let the trash take itself out.

  • Not Politically Correct says:

    A moped traveling at a high rate of speed???

  • Guest090 says:

    I guess the FIRST thing people decide to do after a death is search for a mugshot to decide rather they deserved it or not… Its a shame how many judgmental people exist in this world…Well guess what, the guy that killed 26 little children at an elementary school didn’t have a record… Mugshots doesn’t take away anyone’s right to live. No one is absent from mistakes… I tell you what, see if anyone in your family commits a crime (any crime) and then later in life someone shoots them down, I wonder if you would feel that they deserved it because they committed a crime once in life…. Ignorance at its best.

  • yeah right says:

    Forest Hills use to be such a nice neighborhood, till it got surrounded by the thug life scum. what a pity, there goes the neighborhood

  • Charles Walters says:

    Why have a gun buy back. The great grand Republicans you elected have passed a law that says law enforcement can not destroy weapons they get in. This means any weapon taken in by law enforcement has to be kept forever. I wonder how many of these weapons will end up back on the srteets? Think about that in 2014 when you are voting, and still reading about people being killed with illegal guns.

  • frogger says:

    another ones gone and another one bites the dust

  • Charlotte says:

    If you’re going to pass judgement please do so in a manner that holds all accountable. Ok, he sold drugs but who do you think were the purchasers? I would lean towards some wealthy Landfall resident. I’m sorry but I’ve seen them ride though Creekwood in their nice Benz looking for nothing more than an opportunity to get high so what does that say about them? For every drug dealer there is a drug addict and more so than not it’s the same person sitting at that nice desk making decisions because everyone assumes they have it all together. Being a drug dealer isn’t what got him killed nor does it make his life disposable. It’s people like you guys who make these teens feel as if they have nothing to live for; maybe you should blame yourself.

  • Guestapotomous says:

    The killing was a hit. They were escaping towards Market Street and got caught. Bam, dead.

    There is a massive push by the gang members in this town to get “promoted” during the end of the year “review” their collective bosses conduct. Killing is a plus. Not my opinion, fact told to me by a police officer. Not much they can do, since the city won’t give them any extra money.

    But keep voting for mayors and city council people who want to build stadiums for non-existent teams and hotels for nobody.

    It’s only going to get worse, folks. Learn to live with it.

  • Old Guy says:

    Hey Wilmington,
    Are you impressed yet that we have REAL gangs like they do everywhere else in America??? Some of us out here have been telling you guys this since 1997′. And of course are you satisfied that these shootings are racial since they are Black on Black (the same race of people against the same race of people) crimes. Where is Stevie Wonder? Will he come to North Carolina because of gun control here in NC?? Probably not because he won’t do concerts where there is. Oh well guess he won’t take up these crimes as a political front in his opinion. Hey, is the NAACP gonna take a stand on these crimes since they all are done by the same kind of people? Just sayin!!!

  • Bob says:

    Stop talking about a dead teenagers criminal record. No matter what he did no one deserves to die and have lifeless adults gossip about how he lived his life

  • bria says:

    Such a sad sad thing to lose a close friend. He wanted away from all this madness. RIP Josiiebaby. I will always remember our last conversation 2 days ago. Ilyf. Otf

  • guesty says:

    Oh no, nobody thinks just because he was “imprisones” he was bad, good people are locked up everyday. Not. Wait, are you going to claim he “just made a mistake” next?

    Where did he keep his panther? I’m glad he didn’t heart you or your family.

  • Getreal. says:

    …about bringing a knife to a gunfight. In a utopian world, it would all be settled with civil discourse. Yea, I was involved in fistfights back in the day, but that’s not how gangs live. You bring a gun to settle it, because he likely has one.

    And the weaker of the males who gets beaten up with fists once or twice, well, he gets and equalizer.

    Shooting someone in the back is cowardly…but they are all cowards.

  • Guest6969696969 says:

    Did He, (the Thug victim), have a Panther? Did He heart it?
    Dern it, I really feel for the Panther, I wanted to see it FIRST, On WWAY-TV3…

    Jesus, 95% of these People need to Go back & retake, English/Grammar/Spelling classes…

  • Guest0101 says:

    Rest in peace panther. It is always a tragedy to lose a pet

  • Guest6969696969 says:

    For ALL Gun Owner(s), If a Left-winging Liberal/tard, talks about “Gun Control” send them this lil note….

    “Today I swung my front door wide open and placed my Remington 870 right in the doorway. I gave it 3 shells and left it alone and went about my business.

    While I was gone, the mail gal delivered my mail, the trash man picked up the trash, a girl walked her dog down the street, and quite a few neighbors drove past.

    Well, after about an hour, I checked on the gun. It was still sitting there, right where I left it. It hadn’t killed anyone, even with the numerous opportunities it had been presented to do so. In fact, it hadn’t even chambered itself.

    Well you can imagine my surprise, with all the media hype about how dangerous guns are and how they kill people. Either the media is wrong, and it’s misuse of guns by criminals, or I have one of the laziest shotguns ever made.

    I must hurry off now and check on my spoons. I hear they are making people fat.”

  • lonetraveler says:

    I totally agree with your comments. I would not be surprised if a weapon is found near the scene of the shooting. There had been shots fired all day and officers were investigating, putting their lives on the line. Gangs trying to kill each other are putting law abiding citizens in danger. I would think that making sure that Wilmington is safe would be better than building convention centers, ball stadiums or hotels downtown.

  • lonetraveler says:

    $500,000 bond? Who the heck came up with the bond fee for that one?

  • Guest2609 says:

    You said it well. It starts at home. The kids see their parents using drugs, loafing, taking advantage of the system, so they will do the same. Until we start holding the parents of these ‘thugs’ accountable this will continue. This happens in all races, white, black, purple, green, etc. Parents need to control their young ones, know who they are friends with and speak with their children – actually sit down and speak with them, have a family dinner. I can honestly say that I have known everyone of my children’s friends as well as their families. We didn’t allow our children to hang with the wrong crowd or be associated with them. We have always told them that they would be guilty by association.

    I am sorry that a young man lost his life, but his parents should also front the blame as well as the shooter as they are the ones that could not control him.

    Wake up parents, and get involved. It starts at home. Why are you allowing the streets to teach your children.

  • PublicAvenger says:

    It was running from the car. Guess it lost that race.

  • beach guy says:

    How is it the republicans WE elected fault if a couple of youths with bad intent get into a running gun fight did the republican party buy them the guns did we force them to do this in some maniacal mind control experiment? How just how did us evil people get this done please tell us Charles you vapid liberal fool how did we do it? Is law enforcement handing out confiscated guns as early release prizes?
    Do you know that the buy back program gets mostly long guns and other junk that will not work or at least no respectable gun owner would have due to its dilapidated condition you may get 5% of the guns turned in sold to lawful owners but the rest will go to the scrap heap.

    So buy back is not your issue it is legal gun ownership My only advise is for you to move to a gun free city so you will be safer I hear Chicago is nice this time of year. You and your false god can swoon over the white sox together

  • beach guy says:

    Is that wiped off posting on the board or wiped out? there is a difference is that how you really feel about us remember if you wipe us out you won’t get more any welfare checks because we won’t be around to earn them for you.
    I know the check comes from the government but here’s the tricky Part… watch closely IT COMES OUT OF MY POCKET!
    What an Idiot and it’s someone else’s fault isn’t it? Whose fault is it that you are a functionally illiterate tool who is not even smart enough to use spell check because you cannot read the words that it offers to choose from and understand them. You have had every benefit of a public education just like everyone else in this country and have chosen to piss it away and that sir is your fault.

  • RipJD says:

    What are all of y’all’s problems? Auto correct mistakes happen all the time, why are you so concerned about it? Jd’s father died and y’all are joking about it? You have no respect for a boy who lost his life because of senseless gang violence and no respect for the poor boys father who lost his life before him. Would you be being so disrespectful and criticizing if he was white? Or one of your friends? I doubt it. So how about you have a little respect for him and his family and stop taking matters so lightly and joking about such a horrible tragedy.

  • Charles Walters says:

    Out of the mouths of idiots such as yourself. You ask how is it the fault of the Republican’s? I will tell you. It is the fault of the Republican’s who keep standing in the way of getting rid of military type weapons that have no business in the hands of anyone except the military or law enforcement. It is not just guns from buy backs it is any gun taken by law enforcement. They have to be kept some where, but we all know things never go missing from police custody. Many of the idiots who commit crimes with guns are already felons who are forbiden to have guns. Instead of locking up someone for years, because of a couple of joints, cut them loose and lock up the felons who obtain guns. I actually never mentioned God in my post, but you can continue to hide behind him, when trying to justify your stupidity, which by the way is shinning very brightly.

  • Guest Reply Redux says:

    60 Minutes told me over the phone, that it was too dangerous to come to Wilmington to do a story…even with a 67% reduction in crime lately :-)

  • Old School says:

    I have no respect for a Gang Banger. They team up, like the cowards they are, and steal other peoples lives. By teaming up, and bullying. By destroying lives with drugs, by “pimping” young women out, on prostuition. Like a pack of wolves, they prey on people, who try to eek out a living.

    Crying over a Satan Serving Gang Banger, is like crying over a slave-trader, from 150 years ago.

  • GuestX says:

    Well said Calvin and Calvin

  • Frogger says:

    no its idiots like you that think gun control will ever stop these animals. stop drinking the koolaid your hero is selling you.

  • Guest2020 says:

    Shall we place the blame where the blame is due? It is the people that choose to do evil who are to blame. The Navy Yard shooter was illegally carrying a weapon. The gun control laws didn’t stop him. However, the gun control laws did prevent those men and women from being able to defend themselves. When you outlaw guns, it is the law abiding citizens who pay the price. Obama asked the CDC to do a study on gun violence. And believe it or not, the most deaths and injuries due to gunshot wounds were inflicted by law abiding citizens protecting themselves against criminals. That would not be the case if guns are outlawed.

    In closing, I will ask you to think on this…On April 19, 1995, 168 people were killed and more than 680 people were injured in Oklahoma City. Not one death or injury was caused by a gun.

  • Meg says:

    A mother is grieving her son whose been murdered and you want to blame her and make accusations about her and her family’s character??? You’re disgustingly inhumane and you should be ashamed of yourself. The Williams family is a very large family, with many members living in the area (reading these comments), and all of whom are mourning JD’s loss. For you and so many other posters to be so cruel and heartless with your comments is just astounding.

    Didn’t your momma ever teach you “If you have nothing good to say, say nothing at all” Or, how about this one “It’s better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt”

    I hope you, and every single other condescending person feeling superior and self-righteous by tearing this family down in posts, never have to experience sorrow, suffering or misfortune. Should you, I would hope that you won’t be judged by your past misdeeds, by random strangers, with absolutely no knowledge of the situation. I would also hope that people won’t be as thoughtless and inconsiderate with their words as you’ve been; and, would extend you more compassion than you’ve done in this instance.

  • guesty says:

    Everyone knows about the drawbacks of auto-correct and the need to proof what you have written before posting.

  • So wrong says:

    JD was no angel; but, no one deserves to be hunted down by a coward, shot in the back and have their life snuffed out at age 18. And, no mother should have to bury her child, let alone one who’s been murdered. For those criticizing his family, or alleging lack of parenting, you couldn’t be further from the truth. He’s from a large, very close knit, loving Christian family. Everyone — his mom, aunts, uncles, his grandma — intervened to try to help this kid. All of you on your high horses should really hold your tongues if you have no clue what the situation is. You know what they say when you assume… RIP JD

  • Guest1005 says:

    Matt. 7:1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged.” This is for all the negative comments about JD. Instead of posting about him What about his killer! I will keep all of you in my prayers seems like a lot of you need it. Have a bless day.

  • VoiceOfTheBlackPpl says:

    Im Highly educated im been made it out the Port City and in college right now, so yea you’ll never see me mowing a lawn or flipping burgers at micky d’s, i might give you a job. Thats what JD was trying to do he was trying to get his ife back on the right path. R.I.P Jose, Love you my boy!

  • guesty says:

    I really doubt you are highly educated.

  • Guest-o-matic says:

    …were the toughest 3 years of your life?

  • VoiceofTheBlackPpl says:

    You have no life, tough behind these comments tho. You a clown, straight JOKE! R.I.P JOSE!

  • guest1221 says:

    One has to look no further than some of the views/opinions, hateful comments, vile/ignorant/stereotypical assumptions being thrown about by some commenters to see why society, as a whole, is in a downward spiral. The blatant lack of humanity and compassion is disgusting. If these same venomous ideations are what some of you instill in your own child(ren)’s mind(s), you are not exempt from, and, should be held accountable for, the role you play in perpetuating and propagating societal decline. YOU are culpable. The sanctimonious fingers of unclean hands should only point in one direction.

  • Civilright2 says:

    Shut the hell up, you don’t have a heaven or hell to send anyone to so shut it! And furthermore worry about your skeletons and how you choose to raise your youth ! People are so quick to judge and assume! Regardless of what he was involved in he didn’t deserve to die. Stop trying to sound like you know so much about him because you know NOTHING! Who raised YOU? To make bold statements like this I’m assuming your mom was a bitch and your dad was a pompous micromanaging tyrant with no moral respect!

  • PeterPump says:

    I am one of the people that has posted information regarding the deceased’s criminal background and the following Bibilical passage “there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” I read the Star News that such comments caused the family great frustration. Let me explain.

    I want to make it clear that people have freewill and are responsible for their actions. Joseph David Williams, 18, was involved in serious criminal activity in spring and summer of 2013. This is a fact.

    I do think it’s a fair question to ask the family and friends —
    How did you raise a child that upon turning 18, immediately engages in serious criminal activity?
    Why is the young man choosing to associate with convicted felons?
    Did family and friends set a good example by having a respect for law and order?
    Did family and friends have a good work ethic and encourage the young man to seek stable employment?
    Did the family and friends raise the child in a faith tradition and encourage spiritual development manifesting self-respect and respect for others?
    Did the family and friends consume media (tv, film, music, video games, etc. ) that contained positive role models and avoid media that contains references to violence, drugs, and promiscuity.

    It seems to me, that the friends and family must have some responsibility in terms of role models. While I am deeply saddened by this man’s death — and I do hope the killers are brought to justice — I just don’t understand how an 18-year old gets into the drug dealing business without the help of friends and family.

    I just don’t understand how the friends and family say what a great guy someone is when the fact is that individual is actively engaged in dealing drugs and also evading sales tax and income tax. I believe that such choices are evil, and that God punishes the evil.

    I think it’s a good idea to address these difficult questions instead of glossing over this matter.

  • Guestsfndi says:

    This boy didn’t need faith to be a good person.

    I am Atheist, raised my child Atheist. He is an adult now, never hurt a soul nor broken the law, nor done drugs, went to college while working full time, works a full time job still.

    What is needed is empathy for others and morals which these thugs do not have either of.

  • Grand Ole Party says:

    Wilmington has become a breeding ground for worthless scum.

  • Monkey Junction says:

    While crime in Wilmington is still too high, it is the lowest it has been in the last 12 years. Rapes, robberies, assaults, burglaries, and auto thefts are all way down. Wilmington’s crime rate is higher than the national average but is has been declining at a steady rate.

    If you want to talk about worthless scum in Wilmington, take a look at the evil that was perpetrated in 1898. Those worthless scum overthrew a legitimately elected government and killed numerous people.

  • Barry says:

    beware. When Creekwood crosses over Market Street into Forest Hills, see how long it takes for a big show of police. Your fate has been sealed.

  • Guestme says:

    Yes, Landfall… where an MS-13 member was working until the police tried to arrest him and he fled? Nowhere is safe anymore.

  • PeterNetting says:

    Moped driver is a black male aged 18 with felony drug dealing convictions. Dead male did not have record (of course juvvy wrap sheet would be sealed) but was definetly hanging with the wrong crowd. Forest Hills Drive is the war zone between Jurvey Stompers and Creekwood Killers. Better sell that mansion and move to Landfall.

  • Guesttseug says:

    Yeah….all ya gotta deal with there is MS13 cutting yer grass.

  • Charles Walters says:

    Bulldoze Creekwood, and all places like them!

  • Guest2020 says:

    The dead male did have an adult record. He had two misdemeanor convictions and a felony conviction.

  • renae says:

    WHEN will this mess ever end? We as african americans have had to fight for equality for many of years and struggle everyday to keep up with other races. When will our race see that this senseless killings,are leaving our race in worst shape everyday.Children without fathers,communities with out leaders,homes that will forever be broken.Wake up young men and see that violence is not the way. Real MEN are NOT in gangs,they are trying their best to stop the opression of our race.I feel sorry for my generation because we have lost our way! So all who read this that know the worth of prayer,pray that soon this generation Will soon see a better way!

  • ranger1 says:

    Renae, you have made some very valid points. I’d like to add one more – to all the young people out there: stay in school and get an education so you don’t have to depend on a life of crime to support yourself. Crime leads nowhere and usually leads to violence, especially if drugs are involved.

  • kzpony says:

    I have seen too many interviews lately of the parents of these thugs protesting their kid’s innocence, declaring that they are trying to change, pleading that these children know no other way. Well listen up, enablers! You are no better than your children by the examples you set for them. And what was this guy doing out of jail? Who paid his bond in July? Did he take a plea deal to tell the truth on others for less time? Did word hit the streets and a bounty was put on his head? Let me tell you, these gangs know the desperation of these kids…desperation to be bigger and better than the examples of parenthood set before them, at all costs to make more money than they ever dreamed. It didn’t start with this generation, but it has come to FRUITION in this generation after generations that would not let the dreams of King stand on their own merit.

  • Barry says:

    Another veiled mention of Whitey is holding me down. In these times It is the black youth holding themselves down. with all of the entitlements that have been awarded in the last fifty years it is time to take responsibility for your own.

    Instead of going to school and being disruptive, sit your butt down, shut the hell up and learn something. Education is there for the taking for everyone. Act like a thug and that is what you become but don’t try to disrupt the ones around your sorry a**.

    Why don’t we just herd up all the gang thugs, put them in a big pen, give them all a gun with about 100 rounds and let them square off and last man standing moves on to round 2. Then do it again,,,,and again,,,,and again until,,,,,well, you get it.

  • Guest11212 says:

    Mam, you make some really good points, but to stop the oppression of a race lets start buy getting a job. I drive down Dawson and Wooster Streets everyday for work purposes. From about 9:00am on I see nothing but African-american men and women walking around the streets like damn zombies. I work over 50 hours a week and cannot afford to go back to college because I make to much money to qualify for anything and not enough to afford anything. I am one of many in the same boat. This is due to checking white male on the application. So who(m) are really being oppressed??

  • beach guy says:

    I tell you when ,when the black community condemns this type of behavior in word and action. this is truly life imitating art. Make ganster rap music unpopular stop teaching these young kids it is OK to live off the entitlement system that the government has set up. Do the work it takes to make something of yourself. Lead by example stop accepting the highest under age single mother birth rate in the nation. In other words espouse moral and ethical living and have pride in something (such as accomplishments) other that the color of your skin. Rise above the self perpetuating stereotypes and get rid of the criminals in your community. It would be easy if everyone that says this has got to change just picked up phone and called the police and turned people in for suspicions activity. Send a message to the gangs run them out of town stop tolerating it and looking for help from the outside world. It is pretty obvious that not many care. When you do these things for yourselves and by yourselves it will change the future of your children and grand children if you do not it will only get worse as ignorance and immorality breed ignorance and immorality.

  • Richard Fanning says:

    Here is a picture of the deceased’s mugshot earlier this year — taken during a drug dealing arrest:


    Reminds me of this passage:
    The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth (Matthew 13:41-42).

  • S. Williams says:

    have respect for my family. thank you.

  • Guest2929 says:

    You have some nerve saying that this was done by Jesus Christ and that apparently all this is justified.

    Go get a clue, buddy.

  • Courtney says:

    If you remember that passage then you should also remember “Let he who has not sinned, cast the first stone”… I am pretty sure that you are not that one who has NOT sinned… So before you decide that he should be cast into the furnace or that the bible verse applies to him or reminds you of it because he had some run-ins with the law… Let me remind you, that you have no right to judge…. Let me also remind you that judging a person will have YOU cast into the furnace… Let me also remind you that some of Jesus’s disciples were murderers and thieves. Let me also remind you that Jesus saved the man ( a thief) right next to him hanging on the cross MINUTES before he died and carries his soul into heaven with him…. Maybe you should touch up on your bible reading… Or maybe you only care about the parts that you CHOSE to care about when you decide to make your hypocritical comments…

  • Guest-o-matic says:

    …and show everyone just how stupid you can be without an education. If “Yo boy” hadn’t been doing the wrong things at the wrong time, he’d still be here today. You run with the dogs, you’re going to get fleas. In his case, a bullet in the back.

    Do yourself a huge favor and do all you can to learn something from just one of your teachers tomorrow. Try to do the right thing, actually work for a living, lay off the drugs and get a job! Most of all, STOP blaming the “crazy world” or the “port city” for you AND yo brothahs shortcomings. Your curse of getting locked up or put in the dirt is brought on by your own behavior, lack of a daddy and the total lack of motivation to get off your asses and do something for yourselves. This is NOT anyone’s fault but yourselves!

  • VoiceOfTheBlackPpl says:

    R.I.P Jose Miss you my boy, you in a better, i don’t care what nobody say you was good dude at the end of the day you could make anybody laugh when they was having a bad day,So rest easy my guy and watch ova us as we go threw life out here in this krazy world. “Coming from the Port City it’s like we curse from the birth with two options you get locked up or put in the dirt” R.I.P JD! #GONEBUTNEVERFORGOTTEN

  • kzpony says:

    If only this boy stayed in school, got an education, was driven to be better than his “friends”, to not get mixed up with drugs, to not get involved with gangs…..if only….

    He might have been a good friend to you, but he made bad choices. From my heart, I am sorry for your personal loss. He did not deserve to be shot in the back, but choices he made set the perfect environment for his demise.

    Coming from the Port City, I know plenty of people of all color that came from the worst of conditions, but they used these low places to jump to higher places…to inspire them to seek a better life….not use them to cripple themselves believing that all they have is this drug, thug, guns and gang life. That’s bull. There are so many options more than what he settled for. his choices cost him his life!!!!

    These gangs and drug dealers prey on and recruit young men and give them some false sense of glory in being “big”. They have NO RESPECT FOR HUMAN LIFE!!!!!!!! Whether it is the life of their brother or an innocent child riding their tricycle on a sidewalk. Your “friend” was this kind of person, and another such person shot him and killed him and is probably now some kind of hero in his gang, boasting of his hit.

    My advice, go get an education of ANY kind. Get a job even if its fast food, mowing lawns, cashiering. Get off the streets and get away even if you have to move from the Port City. Hey, thats not a bad idea.

  • Diamond Bob says:

    What really killed the boy is the failure of Obama to take the money from the banks, the rich and wall street to make the lives of people in the community more tolerable. With the lack of meaningful money for what the community really needs: daycare, education, public health clinics, housing, food stamps, relief for all in need, there is no choice for the kids to take chances and live on the edge. Wilmington’s rich citizens who profited and got fat from 500 years of slavery have no right to make moral judgment. They are ultimately responsible for this murder, for all of the murders and ‘crime’ in the community, and should pay the price.

  • Cole Hudson says:

    I am so disgusted right now…. I went to school with this kid and he walked around with the biggest smile on his face and was so nice to everyone i had no idea about his criminal activity. But for god sakes the kid was 18 years old…. GONE TOO SOON this kid is so young that there was still hope for him to stray away from such activities. Some of you people on here are villainous and vicious people who should honestly look to get some help because what you guys are writing makes me raise an eyebrow about what kind of people you are. “God punishes evil”? Excuse me? What kind of comment is that? That is awful you are an abomination to christians everywhere… I hope you look for forgiveness. That is terrible. RIP JD you were loved by everyone. God please look after his family through this tough time and all this criticism give them the strength to flush it out.

  • Surf City Steve says:

    Statements like Diamond Bob are the problem. Yes there is wealth, yes there were slaves hundreds of years ago. Neither is a reason to murder anyone. I am sick and tired of ill informed people making excuses for thugs and losers. Everyone one of us came from some sort of oppression. If we all followed your sick logic we should all go out and kill, rob and take what we didn’t earn, or deserve.

    I am not rich by any standard, but I earned what I have, and I don’t resent the people who have more. They worked for it, they earned it! Slavery is such a phony argument.

  • guesty says:

    Now please hush up. If you want something, work for it. Being given ‘free’ stuff because you mastered the act of breathing and taking up space is old.

  • Beth says:

    Sometimes you can DO EVERYTHING RIGHT and things still don’t turn out well.

    My sister is an example. My sister for various reasons, some beyond her control, some within her control, has had a less than a stellar life. And I promise you, it has nothing to with the family, at the very least, my mom and me. And before you ask about my dad, he was a less than a stellar influence whom my mom wishes she had left sooner, but it is what it is. And even then there are other conditions, biological, that have influenced my sister’s outcome. Considering her biology, I can say with all certainty that her outcome would have been exactly the same, regardless of my dad’s influence.

    Yes, there are choices made, but that is on the person and NOT on THE FAMILY. And in this case, my god, he was shot in the back. I don’t care what he did, he didn’t serve to have his life taken like that. Not in this instance, when he was running away.

    Back to my mother, she worked, sometimes two jobs while us kids were growing up. And she has always encouraged us to do right. She loves god, taught us right from wrong, but sometimes things don’t always turn out right.

    It is NOT HELPFUL, and yes, VERY judgmental to debase an entire family’s character on the actions of one person. There is a family that is grieving right now. Show some respect, please.

    To the person who degraded another poster because of their grammar, please grow up. The poster in question may well have a learning disability that has influenced their command of the language. In fact, I guarantee it! To that poster, if you are interested in improving your writing and reading skills. Cape Fear Literacy Council is a great local, NON PROFIT, resource that offers FREE tutoring in Adult Basic Literacy, English as a Second Language, Basic Math skills, and GED preparation. Just a thought.

  • Asiya Williams says:

    Joseph was my cousin, Just found out all this happened.

  • taxpayer says:

    Good Lord…”Him’s a good boy”. Really?…”Him’s”?

    “him was gonna be an aspiring rapper or feetsball player…” Wow!

    “was going back to school get get an education”…You should as well.

    “just last weekend he was at church”…going to church doesn’t make you a Christian anymore than standing in a garage makes you a car.

  • Burgerboy says:

    Him’s a good boy, he didn’t do nothing wrong, he just turning his life around to try to do the right thing, him was gonna be an aspiring rapper or feetsball player and was going back to school get get an education, he’s just been hanging around with the wrong crowd, just last weekend he was at church, and now hims with god now, praise the lord!

  • lonetraveler says:

    So the driver of the moped was treated and released and let me guess, has no clue who the shooters were, right? Of course he doesn’t know….he was just speeding along and some guy just started shooting at him for absolutely no reason………………..yeah right.

  • guesty says:

    I do believe Burgerboy was using sarcasm in that posting.

  • taxpayer says:

    any posts from Burgerboy previously, I hope Bb comes back to clarify. There’s never a shortage of “he was a good boy and will be missed” posts.

  • hoodwatcher says:

    Certainly, this young man did not deserve to die! But quite sadly, it is likely this murder saved much heartache to other families who would be adversely affected by this man’s future actions. AND, having him off the streets with no possibility of committing crimes and without being incarcerated will likely save taxpayers a TON of tax dollars…

  • come.on.now says:

    until a innocent little girl or boy gets killed in their own house due to a stray round. This poor “Teen” that got shot was most likely engaging in all the gang activity and violence that has been plaguing our area for some time. These little thug wanna be’s out acting all bad, and shooting each other. It’s getting out of hand.

  • A Black Gang Hater says:

    Amen Barry. Hell is too good for these Gang Bangers. This 10% that destroy 95%, for the rest of us (black and white). And they’re slick, they know they can get away with it. They murder, cheat, lie, rape and steal.

  • ashamed says:

    I’m so ashamed to call Wilmington my hometown. Not because of these killings, but because of the amount of hate aimed at a kid and his mother. People are judging strictly on his criminal past, his race, and the possible relation to a gang. I’ve known of several drug dealers that are white guys with no gang affiliation, I know a white guy with several drug felonies sitting pretty at home. You say Wilmington is full of scum, I say it’s full of cowards hiding behind a computer. I would love to see one person get the guts to tell his mother they think it’s her fault her son is dead. If Wilmington is so full of scum, I’d be happy to help you pack your things and leave. Negativity is not what our town needs right now, it solves nothing.

  • Meg says:

    It’s amazing to be so far superior than everyone else *Sarcasm*

    I can’t believe some of these comments from people who have no more personal knowledge of the situation, or, of the Williams family than the man on the moon. These self-righteous ADULTS should be ashamed of themselves and need to take a serious look inward. Anonymous forums bring out the worst from the keyboard commandos. It’s an ugly sad, sad person who gets their jollies off making mean, evil & vicious comments to a family in mourning. Should a tragedy befall them, I sure hope they don’t have to experience the same hate they’ve extended to the Williams family in this instance.

Leave a Reply