Creekwood residents, WPD search for ways to stop violence

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Submitted: Fri, 10/04/2013 - 3:49am
Updated: Fri, 10/04/2013 - 12:50pm

WILMINGTON, NC (WWAY) — After responding to numerous calls of shots fired in Creekwood over the weekend WPD is turning to the community for answers on how to stop the violence.

“We need more help here,” said Wanetta Toliver. “It’s not that we can’t do it but you have some people who want to express what’s going on but they are afraid of doing it for fear of themselves or their children.”

The rash of violence has Creekwood residents asking Wilmington police for help, but they were surprised by their answer.

“They don’t have enough officers here,” said Raymond Bates. “They don’t have enough officers walking around when you just have six police for the housing developments.”

“Six officers cannot patrol and govern properly these communities,” said Toliver. “There’s just no way.”

“These residents feel that no one really cares about them,” said Bates. “I think there needs to be more law enforcement, not just the police, if we can get the DEA agents running out here you could solve a lot.”

But after hours of speaking about ways to help many Creekwood residents left Ebenezer Baptist with more questions than answers on how to fix their community.

“Most of the issues that should have been addressed have not been addressed,” said Toliver.

“The sad thing is you’re not seeing a whole lot of response from anybody,” said Bates. “That’s one of the reasons why we’re going to continue to have these problems out in these low income housing areas.”


  • Lisa's Two Cents says:

    This is insane. First they dump $14 million into it. Then they demand constant Police Teams, 24/7, babysitting a 5 block area.

    Maybe the Wilmington Housing Authority can sell it to private interests, so people will have private ownership, and market value. Like they did at Nesbitt Courts. Which is now, almost crime free. And produces many thousands in revenue (taxes).

  • Erlkoenig says:

    Send in Mebane Boyd. She and her lib pseudo-intelectuals have answers.

  • Steve says:

    Erlkoenig says>She and her lib pseudo-intelectuals have answers.

    It’s intellectuals you intelectual.

  • Morty Sussman says:

    Cops will not be there to protect you. Forget that. If you cannot protect yourself you are just another victim. All this other talk is nonsense, the FACT is these thugs are armed, numerous and unafraid of the legal system. You have to be able to protect yourself because the police cannot. Cops are just crime stenographers at this point, writing reports after the fact. Buy a gun and learn how to use it! This is why we have the 2nd Amendment for crying out loud! There is no excuse to submit to these thugs! And for all the leftist liberal degenerates who will whine “you want to turn the streets into shooting galleries” WAKE UP YOU IDIOTS, THEY ALREADY ARE thanks to your social engineering and protecting the thugs with the ACLU, NAACP etc etc…. Defend yourselves, or suffer as victims!

  • Cannon fodder says:

    There aren’t enough Officers because they are leaving because of mistreatment.

  • Morty Sussman says:

    They are afraid of being sued or arrested for doing their jobs. Look at the Charlotte NC Officer Randall Kerrick who shot a crazy acting nutcase who was trying to break in a house and would not stop being aggressive after being TASED. They fired him and arrested him for manslaughter for shooting a big nutjob who was charging him! Cops just want to put in their time with as little contact with the hardcore thugs as possible. Thanks to the NAACP, ACLU, La Raza and all the other liberal interest groups who have turned the tables on the law abiding the cops are now just as scared as the victims of these thugs!

  • LowIncomeGuest says:

    Maybe the solution could include NOT having ANY LOW INCOME HOUSING. If a family needs housing assistance, support their move into an established neighborhood and help them blend into a normal living environment. Surely it can be done at the same financial cost as a purpose-built “Low Income Project”. But it might dramatically decrease the social cost of congregating all the problems into one compact area.

  • Guest Taxpayer II says:

    I know several people who have rental properties in lower middle class
    neighborhoods who have rented to these people, classified as Section 8
    properties and they were completely trashed. The payments by the housing authority didn’t even begin to cover the repair costs. If you
    rent to these folks, in most cases, your property will suffer greatly.
    If it belongs/owned by someone else, they don’t care, they trash the
    place. As long as they don’t have to pay to repair anything, they don’t give a damn.

  • Madison Jenkins says:

    I empathize with the law-abiding residents of Creekwood who want to live in a safer, more civilized community. It’s not the women or older people who are committing the crime. It’s a specific demographic–young males.

    Unfortunately, these young males have, most likely, been raised by a single mother who was overwhelmed with her parenting responsibilities. As we all know boys need discipline, the kind of discipline a caring male parent can give.

    The “issues” Toliver says should have been addressed are almost insurmountable: teenage girls having babies they are incapable of raising appropriately; high rates of unemployment; the “thug lifestyle” celebrated by Hip Hop and emulated by young males; and a popular culture that is becoming more depraved with each passing day.
    Also, the church is not the authority it used to be.

    Yes, there are many respectable residents of Creekwood who fear these young males, and they have good reason.

    The fear of retaliation is a strong motivator to remain silent, to not get involved. I know the fear, the intimidation from hoodlums, because I once lived briefly in public housing. I would be there still were it not for embracing the work ethic and getting an education.

  • Guest987123 says:

    Remember Dove Meadows? Do the same with Creekwood, tear the place down. Nothing good ever comes out of Creekwood anyway.

  • King says:

    The drugs your kids are using come from Creekwood and if you ask them I’m sure they will tell you they are good to them! Lol Don’t hate the seller for sellling your children dope,crack and cocaine with your money. You raised a drug addict.

  • PublicAvenger says:

    As long as you have hundreds of drug-dealing thugs. Getting “a slap on the wrist”, for Armed Robbery. Then you have a career criminal, getting paid by our taxes, to live in a Section Eight Area, where hundreds of vulnerable children are.

    This creates violence. The murder, at The Village of Greenfield, and the violence in Creekwood, was Created by this environment.

    Add $40 million to Creekwood, and pay sixteen year old girls, to have babies, out-of wedlock. And, I hate to say it, but the problem will get worse, and there’s no way Law Enforcement can stop it. No matter how hard they try.

    Do we pay people $40 million dollars, to live in Sunset Park, or Echo Farms ? If we put these robbers in prison, the first time the police arrest them, and stop financing welfare, violent crime would nosedive. And things would be better, in Creekwood.

    Let’s have a ‘hoodie-protest’ against the government, funding out-of wedlock births.

  • King says:

    Your a racist and a closed minded person. There are more white people on welfare then blacks and thats a fact. I know it’s not a problem if the government is feeding your (white) people right? All the crap you talk about blacks but when you die and see what God looks like he will look like one of the so called thugs your talking about. Then how are you going to justify your life when you were a racist the whole time? No one cares about your opinion so just go back to spending daddy’s trustfund money and worry about what car his money will buy you next year. These comments for WWAY is a perfect way for the wannabe KKK members to voice their true opinion without being seen. Cowards…

  • sumora says:

    I am so tired of reading moral idiot opinions. These are the folks who know nothing about anything and merely make hate filled classist/racist comments. Drugs are prevalent in public housing because the city does not want it in the “good” neighborhoods. Brunswick has drug bust after drug bust while almost “0” in PH. We already have ID’s-but no one checks them. Police drive by dealers and do nothing. WHA’s security chief spends no time on site, manages to get in the news by being a “minister” who holds hands with the gang members instead of earning his ridiculous salary! We also need a police chief who will treat PH property as every bit as important as the rest of the city and no more spinning versions of “the emperor’s new clothes” story. We can’t fix the past but we can as a community enforce the laws. WHA can enforce it’s lease/policies, provide security cameras; have their security officer do something. Wilmington leader’s (civic and religious)can bring about a sit down with the gangs and commit funds for programs designed to prevent future gang participation. We must all stop blaming the majority of residents who are poor or disabled and viewing them as somehow inferior. We should have learned in the past 5 year just how vulnerable we all are to financial upheaval. It does not make you a better person to bully those weaker than you!

  • Guest1851658 says:

    There may be more whites on welfare in number, but there are more blacks on it per 1000 population by far. As for not enough police patrolling a project, any housing area that needs even 6 cops to keep peace and order, something is bad wrong. Maybe it needs to be bulldozed like someone else mentioned about Dove Meadows and replaced with cell-like structures complete with security cameras and strict rules about who can be there and when as well as curfews that are enforced. When people cannot act civilized, other measures need to be taken.

  • Challengetheworld says:

    He never mentioned race in his post – just because the neighborhood happens to be majorly one race doesn’t mean you get to pull a race card when someone spells out the truth on the problem.

    Enough with the race card. Its been over played. Face the fact that you have people who do not care about the ways and laws of the world.

    If you do not think some of what he said is not true, you need to wake up and face the music. There are good people in Creekwood but there are also a lot of bad people in Creekwood. Sometimes, and I know this is shocking, but the good people LET THE BAD PEOPLE in.

    I worked Creekwood’s streets in the 2000’s. It was never like this – something must change.

  • PublicAvenger says:

    I am not, at all, a “racist”. As a matter of fact, I posted, on behalf of the “vulnerable children”, in Creekwood. People, like you, make me sick. Anyone who dares to truly name the problem, and step away from all the Political Correctness, gets called a “racist”

    So, anyone who speaks out against $40 million more dollars being dumped into Creekwood is “Racist”? What a joke. Anyone who says “the children of Creekwood deserve better” is “Racist” ? What a joke. You certainly don’t know me.

    Sorry if the truth offends you.

  • Me, Myself, and I says:

    Mr King
    Please explain how his statement was, in any way, “racist” or “KKK”. Because I am certainly not a racist, and I fully agree with PA’s statement. In fact, I’m glad, people are finally speaking out, to address the root causes, of a 40 year old problem. Has it ever occurred to you, that the biggest victims in this Creekwood Crime Problem, are mostly black children ?

  • Gramps1945 says:

    I guess anyone dares to speak out against the real problem, in Creekwood (out-of-wedlock births, fatherless homes, being financed by the government)is automatically labeled, “KKK”, by you.

  • Guest9743 says:

    You’re right, there are more whites on welfare than blacks, many more, so that means whites are sucking up much more of the working man’s tax dollars…the next time your taxes go up think about who is getting most of your money. Just saying!!!

  • KingKantRead says:

    Where in the original post did it bring up drugs or children? I don’t have any children, so it’s impossible for my kids to be using drugs or be addicted to drugs, since my kids are non-existent. Maybe you should put the crack pipe down and learn how to read, comprehend sentences, and come up with valid arguments.

  • CM says:

    When I was growing up back in the 80s, Jervay, rather than Creekwood was the locus of crime and violence in Wilmington. Although I am sure there are still problems, I don’t hear as much about Jervay anymore after they tore the place down and rebuilt it. The same needs to happen to Creekwood. The old-school, barracks-style housing projects have proven time and time again to foster crime and squalor whether its Pruitt–Igoe in St. Louis, Cabrini-Green in Chicago, Sursum Corda in DC, or Creekwood here in Wilmington. Start afresh.

    There are of course other partial solutions to the issue, which have already been expressed by the other readers here.

  • truthseeker says:

    These black neighborhoods never learn. They continue generation after generation of leading by percentage, welfare users, drug users, unemployed, unwedded mothers, HS Dropouts and mainly crime against each other. They have been given every opportunity by the Federal government to overcome these difficulties by giving them opportunities over better educated, more experienced white people through government enforced quotas. If anyone needs to demonstrate it is white people over the government’s intentional suppressing of their rights over that of minorities. Creekwood is a fine example of segregated neighborhoods with residents receiving housing, food and help with expenses. They breed hate, crime, and residents who cannot even call the crime line to report criminals. The foster the type behavior that keeps them in the predicaments they are in.

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