NAACP calls for investigation into ‘excessive force by police’ in New Hanover Co.


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Submitted: Tue, 11/12/2013 - 10:33pm
Updated: Wed, 11/13/2013 - 2:23pm
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WILMINGTON, NC (WWAY) — North Carolina NAACP President Rev. William Barber says he believes street justice is overtaking courtroom justice in Wilmington. Now the civil rights group is calling for change.

During a news conference today, Barber called for the state to investigate recent officer-involved shootings in New Hanover County that killed three people. This morning he took his concerns to local leaders.

Barber came to the port city tuesday to deliver a letter calling for immediate action regarding what he calls “excessive force” by officers.

“The NAACP is concerned with the pattern of street justice rather than courthouse justice that emerges from the study of these four cases,” Barber said.

District Attorney Ben David says there is a problem with street justice in Wilmington, but in a different way.

“In the sense that there are young men shooting and killing each other and then failing to report it when we are asking them the questions on who is doing it. They are engaging in what we call stop snitching culture,” David said. “I don’t believe that is happing with the police taking the law into their own hands.”

Barber specifically mentioned the shooting death of Brandon Smith, who was wanted for shooting a deputy. The SBI’s investigation into the October shooting by two New Hanover County Sheriff’s deputies and an ATF agent led the District Attorney to decide the shooting was justified and no criminal charges should be filed.

Barber did not want to answer specific questions about each case or the months of gang violence that have plagued Wilmington. He did say the NAACP is concerned officers are becoming “judge, jury and executioner.”

“We appreciate the NAACP’s interest and concern of the recent officer involved shootings involving multiple agencies in the region in response to increased gang violence,” Wilmington Police Chief Ralph Evangelous said in a statement. “We will continue to use every available resource to provide transparency, truthfulness and quality investigations for the Wilmington Police Department and the citizens of Wilmington.

“We welcome the opportunity to speak with the NAACP and those interested in the wellbeing of our community. We further solicit their support and input on reducing the black-on-black crime in our community that has led to the incarceration and victimization of a growing number of citizens in the City of Wilmington.”

New Hanover County Sheriff Ed McMahon also said in a statement, “I have always requested that the SBI investigate any officer-involved shooting. Chief Evangelous and I are committed to share resources and work together to provide a safer community.”

The NAACP wants the public release of police reports regarding these incidents. They also want an independent citizens’ police review board, as well as a meeting with the DA, mayor and police chief to talk about some of the organization’s concerns.

114 Comments

  • Another one says:

    The organization’s main focus is – as they themselves say it – “people of african descent”
    http://www.naacp.org/pages/awards

    If you look at pictures of their events on their page, there are not a whole lot of people other than those likely of african descent.
    http://www.naacp.org/

    Then, they have events involving awards that specifically exclude other races.
    http://www.naacpimageawards.net/

    All in all, with their current rant, the NAACP are targeting the wrong people. The police are not targeting any specific race. They are targeting people who have committed crimes against other people – pure and simple. The NAACP should look at helping prevent these situations from happening.

  • Fire the DA's says:

    Justamatteroftime…..that’s a bumper sticker there.

    If the NAACP people took as much effort into helping the black communities instead of trying to destroy the white communities their lifes would be so much better! The life of a black man or woman is only worth something to the NCAAP if they are killed or hurt by the “white man”

  • Guest6858 says:

    Sorry GuestMan….That’s not how I roll. But your conclusions are exactly what media and people who choose not to deal with the real issue would echo. You see, I’m tired of always being blamed for something I’ve never done. It’s old now. It was old 20 years ago. I believe we need to march to let folks know it’s not okay to use the same old trashy excuses anymore. It’s about personal responsibility. Mine and theirs.

  • 1492 says:

    You’re right, and both groups are wrong.

  • 5050 says:

    The naacp has stayed out of this since all the combatants are black and the gang war would be an all black problem if normal innocent people didn’t get hurt from the gang’s spray and pray style of shooting. If it wasn’t for that, I would say let the cops back off and refuse to answer those calls until they finish each other off. I’m sure the naacp will step in between the warring factions and sing “we shall overcome”.

  • Rick Wilson says:

    Here comes the folks that profit from other peoples misery without contributing anything towards a solution. They just add to the problem, collect their money, and skip out of town until they see another opportunity to profit. They use false bravado, soundbites, and just plain old BS to achieve their goals……..These are the modern day “snakeoil” salesmen.

  • jab1234 says:

    To the NAACP…why in times such as what Wilmington is experiencing now do you put blame on one individual or one agency. This is a community problem, involving all of our citizens of any ethnicity and gender. It does not and will not have anything to do with racism unless your organization tags it as that in the media. Instead of dramatizing these issues and glorifying them into “police excessive force on black males” within our community, look into where the violence is occurring and the individual involved. Get into the neighborhoods where this violence is occurring and mentor these kids and stop making excuses because of their race. It’s 2013 and its not about race anymore so get over it. You should unite with other local organization, including law enforcement to work within the predominantly black neighborhoods to mentor such kids. Don’t point fingers and blame….poor you and its law enforcements fault. The more you point fingers and blame, the more younger kids who look up to your organization will do the same and the cycle continues.

  • Guest6858 says:

    Why don’t the whites (including ME) form a group known as the NAAWP, and march in Wilmington to protest all black violence asserted on the white and law enforcement community. I’m being very serious. What is wrong with countering the NAACP? Why don’t we just DO IT! We are not the slave owners and we are not the oppressors so why not defend ourselves?

  • Guestthug says:

    If the cops will just back off a bit and let these criminals kill each other, then the rest of us can just get on with our non-criminal lives. I think residents of housing projects and gang neighborhoods should just get themselves some body armor and duck.
    Killahs gonna kill.

  • NAAWP says:

    damn good idea, I’m with you on that. Lol, only thing though the NAACP and blacks will call us racists. That’s the thing that sickens me.

    They have their congregations and black groups, yet if we have one we’re racists. How much you want to bet they will start screaming racism?

  • ilmc says:

    I know another .org just like that!! It’s called “Westboro Baptist Church”.

  • PublicAvenger says:

    The SBI investigations are Standard Procedure, in shootouts, and certain high speed chases. Just like the recent NH County Sheriff’s, Use Of Force. In a few days from now, they will reveal, the officers acted correctly. We will also see that Chief Evangelous, just like Sheriff McMahon, is a strong, professional, leader. Who stands up for his people.

    Instead of attacking the Police, who are trying to fight the Gangs, Drugs, and Armed Robberies, he should attack the real reasons, in our community.
    – How we have hundreds of criminals, like Rashawn Hines, who terrorize, and do whatever they want, and get “slapped on the wrist”.
    – How we put $40 million into Creekwood, to pay teenage girls, to have as many babies, as they can. Out of wedlock.

    This is a good example, of why I have not, and do not, support the NAACP.

  • Justamatteroftime says:

    Where were the NAACP when it was only black on black crime and shooting and when it was black on white/or asian crime?? No where to be seen or heard. Where were you during the “cease fire” and gun buy backs?? No where to be found. But as soon as the community takes a stand and it becomes white ob black crime there is a problem. Now you got the suits out and the shoes polished by the NAACP. If the NAACP people took as much effort into helping the black communities instead of trying to destroy the white communities their lifes would be so much better! The life of a black man or woman is only worth something to the NCAAP if they are killed or hurt by the “white man”. When and if this was only black on black or “thug on thug” violence it wouldn’t be worth the NCAAP saying nothing or suiting up to bad mouth the local white communities or law enforcment. NCAAP Do you country a favor and find real ways to help your black communities and let the Officers of the LAW do you job. We have giving these criminals plenty of chances to stop the violence and now its time to strike back with and force neccesary!!

  • GuestMan. says:

    The only thing missing are the sheets and hoods. There is an association like that and it is similar to the Aryan Nation, a notorious hate group that started in prisons.
    Do you really think that is a good idea?

  • Hey says:

    Hey NAACP. Check out the Hilton and spend a few nights sleeping in Creekwood while your in town!!!!

  • Go Figure says:

    This is a perfect example of racism and pointing fingers and putting the blame on someone else.

    Maybe if the NAACP would get involved and help clean the community up and get involved in a positive way in teaching these parents how to RAISE their children and break the cycle, we wouldn’t have these problems.

  • Nightmare says:

    Many law abiding tax paying citizens are tired of these losers getting protected by the racist losers of the NAACP.
    I don’t understand why eliminating scum from the streets is a bad thing.

    I felt worse for having to spray a wasps nest yesterday, than I feel about those parasites being sprayed by bullets from WPD or the sheriffs office. I feel like they still haven’t used enough force yet! IMO
    And by the way at least a wasp builds his own house and takes care of his babies. It’s pretty bad that an insect is more productive to the world and a better role model, than some humans!

  • anonymous says:

    What is wrong with the NAACP?! One minute police are not doing enough and the next they are doing too much?! It is a known fact and need to be a fear of all people black, white, purple or blue that if you use violence against an officer or the public you will be met with the same amount of force if not more so. These officers also have families they want to go home to at the end of their shift. But they are putting their lives on the line to protect a community that hates them. Police yourselves then! Stop calling 911 and let the bullets fly! I’m sure when one of the members of the NAACP are murdered or a family member or friend they will say the police didn’t do enough. Get off your soap box and do it your damn selves!

  • YEA says:

    Yea make sure you put away your bling and flashy watch first!!

  • 8844 says:

    Anyone ever notice that NAACP President Rev. William Barber, II doesn’t seem to miss too many meals? Being a professional racial opportunist must pay pretty well.

    Looks like it’s time to shake things up a bit and get some more money coming in. If this were about anything more than that, don’t you think that at least something, quite frankly anything, concerning black on black gang violence or other criminal activities would be mentioned by Barber in his little news conference?

  • howedy says:

    Blacks are MORE racist than whites!! It’s not the “whites” faults that the “blacks” are the ones doing the crimes…come on people! Black OR White people should BOTH be held accountable…the NAACP needs to be doing more in the “black” communities to help stop the crimes BEFORE they happen, not just defend them after!!

  • Jade says:

    You say that Brandon Smith “never got a chance to tell his side of the story”. Oh really? All he had to do was turn himself in and he would have had his day in court. Oh and you also mention “what if it was someone of your family?”. Well I remember as a boy, my mom found something I had shoplifted which she knew I couldn’t have afforded. When I finally confessed she turned me in to the police. So instead of making excuses for all these “good boys” why not accept that they paid the price for the own poor decisions.

  • wondering says:

    What does the NAACP do when it’s a case of black killing black? That happens many many times!!!!!!!!

  • carrie says:

    As i look on here it seems like alot of the negative comments are coming from alot of white people the only people that are making comments racial comments are youl brandon smith was suppose to be the person that shot the cop where is the proof where is the gun alot of you people need to state some facts before you speak this just let you no that alot of you white people still feel some type of way towards black people and the things that come out your mouths are ridiculous he was a unarmed man accused of shooting a officer that never got a chance to tell his side of the story then you up here bad mouthing the naacp for what some of you need to grow up and check yourself you will all have your day to be judge what if it was someone of your family how would you feel those young men at pizza hut nrver had a chance either this whole police force and some of you can go straight to hell

  • Guest Reply Redux says:

    Ignore the NAACP…ignore the news media coverage…ignore the whole kit and caboodle…or they will have you folks right where you want them to.
    You will be a whole lot better off ignoring them like you would a cat licking its A**!!! Do this…and watch how quickly the dust settles around folks fighting for the rights of criminals because of color.
    And you all know it too!

  • Andrea75 says:

    I am a Black woman and I want to clarify something. The NAACP is not only for Blacks, so you white haters get your information straight. The NAACP is for ALL people now. As far as the person said about establishing a NAAWP you’re as ignorant as the racists that are breathing and personally you don’t deserve to breathe at all. I’m a straight up realist and everyone knows if you attempt to pull out a weapon to kill a policeman you will be shot. The men were indeed wrong trying to break bad and shoot a cop knowing they will pull out their gun and shoot first. That is the stupidity in them. Everyone in Wilmington need to stop this racist crap and come to a solution to prevent crime in these streets. Black citizens are tired of it and you White citizens should be, too.

  • Portcity says:

    I believe NAACP = National Association for the Advancement of “COLORED” People. Just like they said if the last two words were “White People” or if a White Entertainment Television (WET) TV channel was created you would call Racism.It’s Like the pot calling the kettle black, Makes no sense!!

  • Guest Reply Redux says:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Association_for_the_Advancement_of_Colored_People

    Maybe then it should be…NAAAP (3rd “A” meaning…”ALL”)

  • Tracie C says:

    “Everyone in Wilmington need to stop this racist crap”.
    Yes, Andrea, EVERYONE….including you.
    NO MORE: “white haters”
    NO MORE: “black citizens” “white citizens”
    NO MORE: clarifying your race in a post (see – you are a human being – JUST LIKE the rest of us – there is no need to tell us what color your skin is – why do you feel the need to separate yourself?).
    I, for one, am extremely tired. Tired of the racist b/s when it’s CRIMINALS we’re talking about. Last I checked, the color of your skin does NOT exempt you from deciding to commit a crime.
    The only thing keeping racism alive?
    Why, idiots of course.
    Let’s not lower ourselves to keep it alive anymore.
    You want to preach against racism? Great. But don’t do it using thinly veiled attempts at the same thing your griping against.
    Simply, don’t be a racist.
    When and where are the “citizens committee” sign ups the NAACP is demanding? I REALLY want to sign my name on that dotted line. I’ve got some “straight up realist” for you.

  • 11221 says:

    Andrea,
    If the NAACP were for all, then where were they last year in a highly publicized case involving a white high school student in the Northern Virginia area that was attacked and nearly beat to death on a bus?? Oh wait, nevermind he was attacked by 5 black males! Why would the NAACP get involved with that? If the roles were reversed the NAACP would have been all over it and you know that’s the truth. You my dear have your head buried in the sand. The NAACP is one of the most racist organizations around.

  • guest18976 says:

    Do you know what periods are? Have you ever been to school? When you write like a complete buffoon, you immediately lose credibility and look like an uneducated idiot. Listen, if I was accused of shooting a cop, the last thing I would do is run into the woods. If I was innocent, I would simply turn myself in, and if I felt scared, I would do it with numerous witnesses around. Simple common sense. And the three morons who robbed the Pizza Hut unfortunately got what they deserved. Carrie, here’s some very important information that will serve you well over the course of your life. When you enter someone’s property (includes house, restaurant, etc.), brandish a weapon, and proceed to rob, then you are giving everyone (police, customers, property owners, etc.) the permission to legally kill you. If you really believe that Wilmington is full of white racists who enjoy killing black people, why would you make it easier for them and give them legal permission to do so?

  • deputy25 says:

    you dont see these JOKERS when the Asian delivery man got killed by 5 blacks and then they eat the food. or when the boy got shot and killed last year while walking down the street, they stole his sandwich too! where was ole BARBER at then?????? you blacks aint nuthin but a bunch of haters yourselves . not around when black kills a black or black kills a white, but just only when a white kills a black. people are sick and tired of your crap stirring. I remember the DUKE LaCrosse case where all you blacks could do is blame the white men, when the black girls lied and the D .A. knew it and then all you looked like a bunch of dummies.

  • Andrea says:

    Tracie, I am not a racist. The reason why I said what I said to clarify that the man was stupid and wrong for shooting at a police officer. Of course he and anyone will suffer the consequences for shooting at a police officer. Second, if you read the racist remarks about the NAACP you will understand. Third there are White people in the NAACP. The next time they have a meeting in the New Hanover Chapter, join and sign up. As a black person yes I agree with the police for shooting the person and the people. It’s the same in the military, kill or be killed. Maybe I should have clarified my statement clearer.

  • Gramps1945 says:

    Funny, I didn’t hear the “Reverend” say one word about the Chinese delivery man, the white CFCC student, nor the deputy, who was shot. He talked about a drug dealer, and armed robbers. Who refused to surrender, when given the chance. Then chose to put other people, and the police, in a life threatening situation.

    I believe the NAACP, and this so-called “Reverend”, are the “racists”.

  • United citizens says:

    Let the CITIZENS of Wilmington/New Hanover County unite together and send the NAACP a message by showing our support in numbers for the great job LEO has been doing and that gangs and violence will not be tolerated in this community any longer. Let us concerned citizens hold our own rally, news conference at city hall!!!

  • GuestUSMC says:

    They were running toward the cops, but had bullet holes in the backs of their heads……….had not heard this, but, who cares?

  • Guest Vader says:

    The only investigation that needs to be done is why are there so many out of control black thugs in Wilmington?

  • Guest2020 says:

    Brandon Smith shouldn’t have shot a police officer. If not for that then the police would not have been after him. When the police were behind the car that Smith was in, he should not have run. If not for that then the police would not have been after him. Once they caught up with him, he should have complied with their lawful commands rather than reach for something that could have been a gun. If not for that then the police would not have needed to shoot him.

    Brandon Smith cannot tell his side of the story because his own actions led to his death. When Smith reached for something instead of complying with the officers’ lawful commands, the officers had a split second decision to make as to whether or not their lives were in danger. And since Smith had already shot one officer, they were erring on the side of caution because if he had been reaching for a gun, then one of them might be dead instead of the criminal.

  • guestnow says:

    Hmm if the guys from pizza was running towards the.officers why were there multiple of gun shot in the.back of their heads somebody lying to cover up…how ..i say let the officers take a lie detector test YEAHHHH.But it wont happen if they are telling the truth then it shouldnt be a problem…honestly white people do you think you can be.black and.live as a slaveNO u cant u couldn’t even be.black for one day..

  • Lisa's Two Cents says:

    The State did, and is, investigating these cases, through the SBI. Which is procedure throughout the state, to have a agency, independent, and over the Law Enforcement agency, investigate.

    You can bombard this guy with the facts. These officers will never be “cleared” in this so-called “Reverend’s” hate-filled mind.

  • Tracie C says:

    Kid, you find me a way to ACTUALLY be black for a day and I’ll live it. As a matter of fact, I’ll come and live in your slave shoes okay?
    What? You don’t live on a plantation here in the “good ole” southern US of A?
    What? You have NEVER had to put up with what the slaves actually had to put up with?
    How DARE YOU compare yourself (or any modern day black person) to a slave!!!
    You are no better than any racist white trash. You understand that right?
    You do know that the color of your skin doesn’t make you any less of a human being than the rest of us correct? Obviously, you don’t.
    Obviously you like living in your self induced “oppression”?
    Just like I tell any racist idiot: get over it. Get over it and live your life.
    Live your life of FREEDOM while you ask yourself: I wonder how an ACTUAL slave would like having my life right now? Ask yourself that while you wait for your XBox to warm up tonight okay?

  • Guest6858 says:

    United.. Just name a time and place and I would be honored to be there. I mean that. This could be the first step for really cleaning up this city. It’s a great idea.

  • Citizen28451 says:

    Talk about racist? Sit back and look at it from a REALIST perspective. The NAACP hoots and hollers when something goes down against a black person but Heaven forbid, it’s okay to diliberately order Chinese delivery, rob and murder the man and EAT the food. It’s okay to start gangs and deal drugs all over the community. It’s okay to have drive by shootings, shoot officers and all of that non-sense. But wait…we have to put blame on someone else. Might as well call our Reverend to defend us. Seriously? How about get a real reverend, raise your children right, lead by example and teach them morals and respect. Only then can things start to change!

    It STARTS IN THE HOME and unless your Reverened and racist NAACP group is in your home teaching upbrings the right way, they aren’t going to serve you a bit of justice.

  • Tracie C says:

    Carrie, just a little piece of advice: it’s PROOOOOBABLY not a good idea to try to call out racist behavior while at the same time loading your post with nothing but racial separation. (i.e. “white people, black people”).
    And just an FYI, if it was my kid robbing Pizza Hut or knowingly running from the cops while his name was ALL OVER the news for supposedly shooting a cop, I’d be the FIRST one turning him in. If they got shot I would have to assume either they’d be dead…or they’d FINALLY smarten up.
    Then again, my kids know how to be individuals, not some gang banging little “followers”. My kids know I’d turn them in in a heartbeat. Too bad Brandon Smith’s family didn’t think about his kids a little harder, he may still be alive today if someone had just TURNED HIM IN.

  • heyguys says:

    I would like more information on were the NAACP gets their money from. Also, why they are not out trying to help their people to stop the black on black killing that is happening more and more. They should be trying to help the police and stop their always faulting them for what they do.

    NAACP there is a ride along program with all the police dept. Please get you butt in a car and see what crap they put up with. Maybe, they will run across someone with a gun and you can flash you NAACP card and see if that will stop them from shoting.

  • BD says:

    Emphasis should be concentrated on the reduction of crime! Police cant shoot “criminals” if they don’t exist. The police aren’t out hunting…THEY ARE RESPONDING TO VIOLENT CRIMES perpetrated by VIOLENT CRIMINALS, the majority of whom have VIOLENT CRIMINAL HISTORY!!!

  • guest123123 says:

    “honestly white people do you think you can be.black and.live as a slaveNO u cant u couldn’t even be.black for one day..”

    Last i checked, salvary ended in the 1800’s, so im pretty sure you havent lived as a slave either. Don’t make the color of your skin a excuse, you make your own choices.

  • Not I says:

    No way two different people could write the same list of words that might some day comprise a sentence.
    http://www.wwaytv3.com/2013/11/07/gang-possibly-targeting-wilmington-police-says-fbi#comment-226543

  • Vog46 says:

    I for one think the 3 guys at Pizza Hut DESERVE to be shot at.
    They were carrying REAL weapons and charged AT the Police. ANYONE doing this sort of thing will rightfully get shot at. Why? Well, in my feeble mind if YOU are charging at me with a weapon I don’t CARE if it’s loaded or not I’m shooting you.
    The guy in Creekwood however MAY be a different story.

    Lets assume something.
    Lets assume the Sheriff got shot by the other LEO – I DID say devils advocate here.
    Assume he was running away from the Police who were just following his car.
    IF in fact the he was running away AND the Sheriff was shot by another LEO did the Police have the right to shoot him in the woods two days later?
    Lying down – out numbered 3 to 1 LEOs protected by trees and wearing ballistic vests.
    Should they have shot the victim.
    I STILL Say yes but I have some serious questions.

    So play devils advocate – no race involved.

    Vog

  • deputy25 says:

    the devil is always a deceiver and liar!

  • Andrea says:

    Yep, Vog is correct, hands down. If you shoot at a officer, you will be shot. About the Creekwood incident, I need to read that story again. I was thinking about that incident that the man pulled out a weapon and started shooting at them. Then again, I could be wrong.

  • VERY CONCERNED says:

    First the police said they were responding to an armed robbery in progress which was FALSE, then they admitted they were staking out the area. Its OBVIOUS, they were not staking out the area in UNIFORMS and with PATROL CARS! These “police” approached these individuals ARMED in street clothing making demands. Apparently these individuals thought they were in danger. FURTHERMORE, citizens have the right to carry CONCEALED WEAPONS, in which the article clearly states, they were CONCEALED and found after the fact.

  • Tim says:

    Whatdo you expect from this race-baiter and “moral monday” rabble rouzer? He now runs the NC Democrat Party and is a hero to the local New Hanover County Democrat Party. He is leading the effort to defeat Senator Thom Goolsby in the next election. He never criticizes the murderers, only the police. Kick this moron out of Wilmington!

  • deputy25 says:

    this thug caused his own death by his actions.. by the way , were you in the swamp /woods with them when this happened? i didnt think so. get off your arm chair quarterback sofa and go be the police and then , only after 25 years , come and tell me what you would do. My 3 cents worth.

  • stoptheviolence says:

    I am 54 yrs old, and white. Yet, I too have recently expressed concerns that it appears justice is being carried out on the streets, not the court rooms by our police dept and the NH Sheriffs department.

    I mean let’s get real here. A deputy gets shot in the leg and the whole police department and sheriffs dept, as well as many from other law enforcement agencies slam into Creekwood. The wooded area in Wrightsboro that this offender ran into is less than a half mile in diameter. If half of them had shown up there, he would not have been able to escape. A few hours, or even a few days later, he would have come out on his own, still alive.

    Two deputies ran into that wooded area after him. They shot 23 rounds, hitting him nine times. He was not armed, so its apparent he did not shoot at them and bring them to a place of having to use deadly force to defend themselves, and he was laying on the ground when they pumped him full of bullets.

    Sorry folks, this is not a white or black issue. It’s an issue of excessive force being used to apprehend a alleged criminal (innocent until proven guilty by a court of law) and justice being dispensed by our law enforcement agencies not our courts.

    This man is dead. We will only hear the officers side of what transpired in those woods. This will result in gang violence escalating, not diminishing. Respect for authority is already at a all time low for gang members, thugs, and the sort… this action does not enhance any form of public relations with them, that would result in a peaceful resolution. But instead will entice more gun related violence in Wilmington.

    I believe that had this been one of their sons, brothers, etc, who had done such a thing and then ran into such a small area of woods…they would have found an alternative method of gaining a peaceful surrender and justice would be left to the courts.

    Just my two cents worth.

  • 5050 says:

    Look what all they have done for Detroit.

  • Robert Green says:

    The NAACP ( National Association of Always Complaining People ) consist of a group of race pimps , who exploit the dysfunctional black community. They never have any real solutions and perpetuate the serious plight of black men. Young black men will never be free from their self inflicted bondage by their unwillingness to assimilate into the civilized world. Their rejection of acquiring a sound education, dressing properly ,learning to speak without their ghetto dialect are serious impairments , living a disciplined lifestyle , and having family structure within their fatherless homes. If you want to be a victim you will always be a victim. Their future usually entails the prison or the cemetery.The NAACP is on par with the KKK. They do not want racial harmony because the Jessie Jackson’s, Rev. Al Sharpetons and Rev. Barbers are always trolling for an opportunity. How about calling upon that racist Attorney General, Eric Holder , if you think there has been such an injustice carried out by a rogue police force. I stand by local law enforcement for looking out for the welfare of ” law abiding ” citizens. How about the FBI assessment that a local gang is looking to target law enforcement? Shame on the black religious community , you have no credibility in this town. Supposedly , you are the few leaders who can convey a serious message but go silent when the Race Pimp rolls into town. Do you sincerely stand with local law enforcement or with the Race Pimp?

  • Gramps1945 says:

    This so-called “Reverend” is as hate-filled, and racist, as a member of the KKK. We don’t need any demands from this guy. The last thing a law enforcement officer needs to think about, is skin color. Especially when they confront a armed robber, drug dealer, or someone trying to run over them, with a vehicle.

    The NAACP is just as “Anti-Racist”, as this guy is, a non-fat, fair-minded, Christian minister.

  • trash says:

    Someone needs to give the NAACP a job. All they want to do is stir up trouble. They are no better than the “Thugs” that comit the crimes. Always causing trouble. Maybe if they go into those areas they can teach them not to rob and steal.

  • Deidre says:

    To try to minimize American slavery by saying that everyone is doing it makes you ignorant. Were there “Viking only” water fountains? Were there laws put in place during the 21st century to continue control over whites? Are white being currently affected and profiled in Europe due to this human injustice? SHould the JEwsih be asked to get over the holocaust? SHould the Irish forget the brutal famine in Ireland which forced them to come to America? If youd suffered a great injustice would it be fair of me to ask you to get over it, when you continue to suffer that injustice?
    You have the luxury of saying get over it because youre white. To ignore the fact that there does exist racism in America toward the black man, SIMPLy because hes black is to prove that some white people continue to be in denial,ignore the obvious and this ignorance continues to feed the very thriving prejudice that refuses to die in America.

    We are not stupid, of course there was slavery all over the world, but Americans always have had a way of out doing the world, even when it comes to slavery. Regarding black on black crime..is a myth..crime is crime commited by criminals of all colors. Black on black crime is a term used to further criminalize blacks while deflecting the fact that people of all races, creeds and cultures are committing crimes in America regardless of race. WHen we consider all of the “white collar crimes” committed by people..is that called white on white crime? When execs are found embezzling millions from investors and companies is that called white on white crime. America is the most hypocritical country in the world.

  • Deidre says:

    Finally someone willing to state the obvious. It was the same in the Jim Crow era, wHite folks scared to acknowledge the obvious, despite the obvious. OF course they killed him because the cop was injured…If you must discuss issues, at least be honest about it. America had always been known to downplay their guilt while maximizing others..just as they had done the American Indian, who was labeled a savage and the black man labeled lazy during a time when blacks worked under harsh conditions for centuries…for free. Had the person running in the woods been white…the likelihood of him being shot at 23 times…..would have been slim to none.

  • kingstonman says:

    I was watching a broadcast on cable TV day before yesterday about when the Vikings were all but ruling the European world. And do you know folks what they did to WHITE people in Europe all the way to the Slavik part of the world?
    Yep, made them slaves. And that is where the word SLAVE comes from the word Slavik. Also in many broadcast I have seen where over the past black communities in Africa captured other tribes and made them slaves same with South America inhabitants. Also Indians in the early Americas and other whites did this to their own from other communities. As in the Viking conquest usually the “attractive” women were put in harems and many of the stronger men were castrated and used for the heavy duties etc. But you know what is different here? My ancestors in Europe have not laid around hollering how we were misused as slaves for so long. As history past many eventually came to America as Indentured Servants and were not allowed to learn to read or write but were able when owned by a fair owner to work their way to freedom. However if the owner was not fair he/she could keep them under their rule forever. But that is where a difference came into play. Instead of lying back and screaming injustices all the time against us the poor whites worked and moved on with life instead of expecting to be given “special” rights for being misused and abused. No I am not upholding any whites that had slaves back in the early days of the USA but look at History folks. The USA was NOT the only country doing this. It was world wide. Not only that it was blacks in Africa that helped capture their fellow black people to sell and became rich too. But it seems to me that here in the USA the blacks don’t want to give it up and want to keep slavery alive! Many blacks in the USA have it like they want it in they just hold on to screaming how unfair they were and are treated. Yes you were in the past as were my ancestors. But you have to let it go and move on and stop expecting everything to be given to you in “special rights.” Look at the successful blacks that have made it in this world. And how did they get that way. Not by lying back and wallowing in self pity and wanting the world handed to them on a silver platter. My ancestors here in the USA never owned a slave. We got ahead by being share croppers (and mistreated by the big MAN) but little by little and education my ancestors moved my branch into a better life. That is all it takes. Now you blacks that want to keep the race card alive are hurting your people on and on. When I was a teen in growing up and the schools were integrated I worked with the blacks doing this. I made signs and joined marches. No race should be kept down but now the black community is doing it to themselves on and on and turning the other races against them in doing this. Wake up, work hard and stop this bickering and expecting “special” rights. And by the way if a police man says hold up your hands or lie on the ground DO IT. I WOULD! But then I never will do anything to put myself in that predicament as I live by the law.
    But now the NAACP is wanting the blacks to be treated special when being arrested. Okay so what happens when the criminal doesn’t give up but runs or shoots? And this is exactly what the criminals are wanting so you better believe they are the ones out there hollering the loudest about being mistreated. Do you think your fellow blacks that live lawfully are wanting to uphold you criminals? No they want to live peacefully like the majority of whites and all races. BTW, have the NAACP look at the criminal whites that do not give it up when told to do so by the law enforcement. What happens to them? Same as with blacks or any race. Force is used.

  • Deidre says:

    your three cents ? not even worth a penny…..fool you werent in the woods either so you can no more presume his guilt, than he can presume his innocence..unless you mean to say that hes guilty by the mere fact that hes black..then that makes you a nasty son of a kkk……Im sure youre dying to burn a cross right now arent you…..
    Get off your high horse…..youre sh** stinks just like the rest of us……stop acting like your completely innocent of any wrong doing ever in your life. Im not even going to ask if youve ever been to court because we can only assume that black ppl are the only ones who commit crime right….there is nothing worse than an ignorant man..well, yes there is..an ignorant lying one

  • King of Swine says:

    Make the call to the Rev. Al Sharpton and the Rev.Jesse Jackson. They will get the answers we lookin fo!!!

  • Deidre says:

    Is it so hard to believe that some of the police might be guilty of using excessive force and might engage in behavior that could be considered criminal? Should not police be held accountable if that is the case? Attackers and murderers should be prosecuted to the highest extent of the law, regardless of color, status or position held, but we know in America that the rules don’t apply the same if you are black. The field that I work in testify to the case that ppl of all races commit crimes, use drugs, sell and transport drugs and receive some sort of subsidized or public assistance..but as usual, some whites want to continue to perpetuate the myth that police dont profile, and that whites dont commit as many crimes and represent a large part of the population that use public assistance. Whites dominate the prison system despite the fact that blacks are over represented for being a minority within the population. AS usual SOME white people continue to whitewash the facts to further deflect form themselves the truth that ppl of all colors are guilty of wickedness.

  • Fuel says:

    This kind of outlet or free for all, to rant and rave about differences in opinions sheds light on and fuels the racist community.

  • Pointing Fingers says:

    “And Mr. NAACP President, what are you doing to help explain or stop the violence of black on black crime”? “Omm, no more questions, we are out of time”. Yeah, run from the real problems but put blame on others for your stupidity.

  • Guest-o-matic says:

    …off before getting too awfully concerned. Save those last three brain cells and get back to reality here. Allow me to show you how it works as a FUGITVE that has shot a police officer. That person has very serious decisions to make, quickly:

    “Turn yourself in…carefully with family and attorney surrounding you. Do not run, do not evade, turn yourself in with your hands high, open and clear!” The police made repeated requests to him and his family to get him to peacefully surrender. They didn’t and he didn’t and he is where he is. Are you able to follow this?

    Basic fact number one: When a person intentionally pulls, aims, fires and shoots a police trained officer with a handgun, that person will kill anyone that gets in his way during his criminal activities! Could be YOUR mother, daughter or YOUR son! When an idiot continually runs when knowingly wanted, exactly as in this case, he faces very serious consequences. He was asked many times to surrender and HAVE his opportunity in court. He decided not to take that route, he decided to run. That, my fried brain friend, was HIS choice and the unfortunate result IS justice. Compassion for people is one thing, compassion for impulsive criminals with a death wish is yet another!

  • Guest-o-matic says:

    …when someone decides to attempt to kick my door in! This really has nothing to do with race, as you believe. It’s all about protecting yourself against criminals that believe they have the right to violently TAKE anything of yours they want…by force.

    The criminals only care about themselves. I care about my family and myself. Is that little ringly-dingly bell soundin’ off for ya yet?

  • Lisa's Two Cents says:

    Please, Mr. So-Called “Reverend”, explain the “excessive force”. For if there was “excessive force”, that would, indeed, make the law enforcement officers, criminals.

    Apparently, you and the SBI, have two completely different conclusions. Of course, they base theirs on investigation, and fact. What factors did you use. What evidence do you have to reach your completely opposite conclusion ? Your racial hatred, and narrow mindedness ?

    Why don’t you, and your group, attack the “excessive force” used against a Chinese delivery driver, or a white college student, robbed and murdered, by groups of black attackers ?

  • guest123 says:

    Please fix your thinking, just because I may vote the same way the NAACP members do, does not mean I like them or what they stand for. Just like on both sides we have our crazies… Im a Dem and do not suport them or what they do, horrible people. Im sure Rep have their own groups ( westbro church ) hey like i said we both have our crazies.

  • Andrea says:

    That what I was trying to say in my previous posts but apparently I’m the racist one. Every citizen in Wilmington should come together regardless of race and stop the violence.

  • Tammy says:

    Just like it is hard for blacks to accepts that they are not above the law,when they get out there acting like thugs robbing and beating people who are working hard trying to make a living,you sit on here talking crap about the cops but just as sure as you are sitting there typing if you were robbed at gun point or beat for your phone,or someone you love was killed by one of them then you would be saying they are not doing there job,until you walk in their shoes day in and day out dealing with drug addicts and thugs beating and robbing people,you are one to talk about people being people when you one here talking crap about all white people,you are one pathetic human,i dont care what color you are.you act just like them thinking you are above any,but when your house is broke in or your car stolen or you are robbed or beat getting out of your car I hope to know when you call the police,that it is one of these officers that you so blutly sit here talking crap about could be one that says your life.if the shoe fits wear it,you are just as bad as the thugs.

  • PublicAvenger says:

    Less then 3 dozen people. And I bet half, are family members, and baby-mamas, of Brandon Mitchell, and the Armed Robbers

  • Well Spken says:

    Very well spoken. Its good to know that some of us CAN see past the color of this incident!

  • Guest Reply Redux says:

    “NASCAR”!!!!

  • FairPractice says:

    WWAY, what race were the officers?

  • Tammy says:

    ok yea i am sure a convicted felon had a permit to carry a gun,if they were not up to no good they would have never run,i have never been in a car or on the street and run,why because I had not done anything wrong or even when I had been stopped for my tag out did it cross my mind to run, no i stayed got my ticket and went straight to get my tag,darn i guess i should have run and said they were harassing and was raciest to me cause the officer was black, but no i stayed and face the music and even thanked the officer and told him to have a great day.They all have a job to do,until you have walked in their shoes in any situation black or white you can’t judge. I was raised to respect authority not color

  • Vog46 says:

    Keep the crimes separate.
    The Pizza Hut robbers were in fact committing crime.

    I am talking the Creekwood Sheriff shooting.
    I am concerned that the ballistic results are not released yet – why not? Will it clearly show the bullet came from another LEO?
    Will it make a difference in how the public perceives this shooting 2 days later in the woods?

    Vog

  • PublicAvenger says:

    These poor, mistaken, “citizens” pointed their guns at the manager, demanding money.

  • guesty says:

    Citizens that are not criminals have the right to carry concealed weapons. Criminals can’t pass the required background check to obtain the necessary permit to legally conceal carry.

    How sad, the criminals thought they were in danger. Boo hoo.

    Nice try but fail.

  • really? says:

    You have to pass a background check to have a concealed carry permit. Do you think that these criminals who were robbing Pizza Hut really had a concealed permit? Just because the weapons were concealed, that does not mean they were allowed to conceal them. If I was going to rob somewhere, I would not go in guns a-blazing so everyone can see them, I would hide them too, legal or not.

  • deputy25 says:

    @ VERY CONCERNED– citizens do not have the right to carry concealed ‘weapons’ only concealed ‘handguns’. however, citizens can also ‘open’ carry as well, honest law abiding citizens. I guess you fail to understand what undercover means when working cases. Patrol cars that are marked and uniform officers are not used to ‘stakeout’ crime ridden areas of interest. as long as i am shouting POLICE, HANDS UP to THUGS that just ROBBED a place and people, they better do it!! and before i shout these demands, i do have some type of ‘POLICE /DEPUTY LOGO that can I.D. myself to the THUGS providing that they CAN READ. i know the scales of justice lady is BLIND, but the old lady can still HEAR. you are a very SMALL MINDED PERSON . i am sure that is why they released from the test lab!!!

  • GARY G ANDERSON says:

    Yeah well the sad part is; untill New Hanover county law enforcement wakes up and smells the unjustice and excessive force they use, then the sad tales will continue. Best of luck on your belief!

  • 22 SHOTS says:

    22 Shots fired at a man laying on the ground. That is a lot of DEFENSE.

  • guest705 says:

    For a long time I admired the NAACP and the work they were doing but not recently. Wilmington is clearly overrun with gang violence. It isn’t in question that these men had just robbed a business or that they refused a lawful order. What is in question is whether the police had the right to defend themselves. WHAT? An officer was recently shot. Anyone who refuses a lawful order needs to know that the police may be wondering, am I next? Its a terrible position to be in with a fraction of a second to react.

    Maybe the NAACP should help with a solution to the crime. Maybe they should find out what is fueling these gangs. Maybe they should apprehend a few violent offenders in the dark of night and stand in these officers shoes. Maybe they need to present a fool proof way of containing violent offenders where no one gets hurt. Show us how.

    I believe if the officers were executing these men there would not have been a survivor. I believe in my whole heart that they were defending themselves.

  • Gguest says:

    You are so true. The NAACP need to help solve the problem more instead of just talks. I truly agree with you concerning the officers that they are out here everyday putting themselves in harms way and they have the lawful right to protect themselves. The people who are out here doing the crimes should know they are putting themselves in danger and no one is to blame but themselves. Instead of doing crimes, get honest work to do with your hands. And stop getting into trouble . Idle minds are a path to destruction.

  • Deidre says:

    You are aware that those people that you so eloquently referred to as scumbags are of all races who live in the projects and that many of them do in fact work? How can anyone be this ignorant..on purpose?

  • guest20562 says:

    The NAACP is like all the other scum bags that live in the projects GET A JOB. If you mess up pull a gun on a officer you get shot end of story. Stop looking for something for nothing. If the NAACP wants to investigate something investigate the drug problems or are the drug dealers giving the NAACP a cut of the money.

  • yea says:

    I would have to agree. I think these officers should spend more time on the shooting range.

  • wolfhunter says:

    I disagree, Regardless of the circumstances, Brandon Smith already PROVED he was armed and extremely dangerous with previous encounters with LEO, and is not afraid to use deadly force again. Now put yourself in a Police Officer’s shoes. You in the patrol car chasing after him, your adrenaline is in, and heart pounding. What are you going to do in order to protect innocent lives as well as the Officer to your left and right? Why shall another Officer get shot and possibly die leaving behind a wife and two kids, when this criminal is trying to do everything possible to get away?

    “The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a Good guy with a gun.”

    Although he may or may not of had a weapon at that time, he definitely showed intent in an already intense conflict.

  • 9743 says:

    Maybe this guy had done some bad things in the past but I said, and I will stick by it, LE would have killed him even if he had complied with their commands….I know many will disagree with that but that’s my belief and I’m sure there are others on both “sides” that will agree.

  • Stories says:

    Who is to say that Brandon Smith or any of the others DID NOT comply? We are only getting ONE side of the story.

  • guestwhat says:

    I said the same thing on this website that Brandon Smith would never go to court. He was going to die regardless of complying or not. Remember, this is still wilmington and it is what it is.

  • 9743 says:

    All of them probably complied but we’ll never know the truth, we’ve only heard LE’s version of what happened!!!

  • Ridiculousness says:

    Isnt Brandon Smith the one who said “I’m not going to jail, Cops gonna have to take me in a body bag”. If you really knew him you’d know that if you live by the gun you die by it! Stop making excuses for violent criminals. It could have been a young child or your mother or your MISSING son that was hit by one of his many stray bullets. Or if it was the SON of the Rev. of the NAACP that got caught in cross fire. Oh yea didnt the SON of a leader in the NAACP just go to jail for a while.

  • wolfhunter says:

    Exactly. There was no specific incident.

    That is the NAACP for you!

  • Da...man says:

    When and where exactly was this so called excessive force? I don’t recall any recent incidents…

  • jl0223 says:

    Why do you, take some of the time, and energy that you are putting into this, and try to fix the problems with the people that are getting into to trouble, rather trying to keep stuff stirred up within the community? People say racism is a problem, well I guess what you are constantly doing does not cause that?

  • sgt hardy says:

    Gosh..look at everyone get fired up about an org that is about standing up for rights, while the Kock Bros, Monsanto, and the congress that has been paid to doubt global warming sells you all right down the same river. Our town, tho these rabid vitriolic posts deny it, is one of the most diverse and happy towns in existence. Deal with it. We get along, except y’all! If there was no anonymity on these comments, I’ll bet they would be quite fewer.

  • meetallyawant says:

    Well here are some facts to include in your little meeting NAACP.

    BLACK WHITE LATINO CHINESE JAPANESE…. Your crimes will not be tolerated here! We are taking our streets back!

    The police do not pick the RACE of the person committing the crimes.

    A CRIMINAL has a weapon… they have the right to use LETHAL force.

    Don’t come whining because ” our boys” are dying and blame law enforcement. Come crying to the parents to the young people with ” WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING!
    It is very sad that so many young people have died in Wilmington recently while fleeing from the police, or failing to stop when the police say stop, but you know what those few THUGS died but look how many law abiding citizens are safe because of it.

    You need to Meet honestly you do but not to point fingers at law enforcement. Point fingers at the criminals, the parents of the criminals, the role models of these young boys… WHERE ARE YOU!

  • kingstonman says:

    I agree with you 100%. Our police force has had to sat back for years because of being afraid of ‘stepping’ on someone toes. Now finally they have started moving out to reign in these criminals and I knew without a shadow of doubt the ‘communities’ would be screaming the race card. All it takes to not meet force is to put your hands up when told to do so or stop your vehicle and surrender. But no, these criminals know they can try to get away and if something happens and they survive it then they can holler racism. I wonder also if the folks, in the ‘communities’ singing the race card again, would do if the police stopped rounding up the criminals in their areas and the people could not step out their front door and were home-bound all the time. Just like what happened in the past weeks when a lady was sitting on her own front porch not bothering a soul and was almost hit by a bullet. Also if they look at the records the other races that do not surrender when told to do so also meet with harm. That’s all it takes people is to surrender when told to do so.
    Way to go Wilmington Police and NHC Sheriff Department!

  • Jamie Gillis says:

    Notice these clowns have nothing to say about “excessive force” used by predominately black gang bangers shooting everything they see. Oh, thats the “systems” fault too, for cutting their welfare.

  • Jessica says:

    It was only a matter of time. Why are they nowhere to be found when these ” find upstanding members of society”
    are causing havoc( murder, rape, assault & robbery)?
    They only come out to show boat and never have solved a single issue. They complain about everything, LEO are not doing enough or they are doing to much. Instead of standing BEHIND a microphone… Go out in these crime ridden neighborhoods and change them as you have all of the answers!!

  • don wrong says:

    Yes, that must be it, excessive use of force by law enforcement! No way it could possibly be excessive violent crimes by blacks. That would just be a racial charge wouldn’t it?

  • SurfCityTom says:

    is this no surprise? I guess they need to stir up something as the year draws to a close in order to spur fundraising.

    If this was anything but the law of statistics, Jesse Jackson, Sharpton and all other National rabble rousers would have been here weeks ago.

    Heaven forbid, they might hold candlelight vigils and news conferences at Creekwood and the other projects in the evening.

  • spendtime says:

    They need to spend time in the trouble area trying to help the people that live there. Why are they always trying to protect the criminals. They need to teach their people to respect the law and stop living by killing and stealing.

    I guess their funds are low and they need some way to bring in more money. I guess slavery will be claiming is the cause of all the problems.

  • Kimberly Ann says:

    Just give it some time and Jesse Jackson will be involved.

    The reason the police are having to use excessive force is due to the fact the suspects will not comply to the officer’s orders. They bring the issues on themselves. If you simply comply with the officers their would be no issues. If you haven’t anything wrong you are good to go.

    I am so sick of hearing they shot my son or my bro because he is black. no it’s not because he is black it’s because he didn’t comply with the command he ran, he had a gun drugs or etc. All ILLEGAL stuff.

    So sick of this RACE card crap. Get a life people.

  • 9743 says:

    I agree with some of things you said and some I don’t….I agree that some people do bring “issues” on themselves but let’s step back to last month when Brandon Smith was killed by LEO’s….this guy was “dead meat” as far as LE was concerned and would have been killed by them whether he had complied with their commands or not simply because he had “allegedly” shot a police officer which there is still some disagreement about.

  • westla says:

    The NAACP needs to look into the CP. That’s where the problem is.Its with the WCP,not the WPD !!

  • Sharon says:

    Factually, we should start with what are the facts? Who has the highest percentage of violent crimes? That is where the conversation should start. Criminals are just that, they break laws put into place to protect everyone. No race can keep using the same excuse…every ethnicity has had a history of slavery and injustice. Why do you not see families of the Holocoust and concentration camps screaming that they are owed anything more than any other human being? They don’t!
    We listen to the excuses and everyone…trust me most of us know there is no justification for anyone to break the law, receive government aid in housing, food stamps, and monthly checks if you are continuously having children that you can not support on your own, ingesting or selling drugs, or simply sitting on your lazy rear. We have to listen but nobody believes you.
    I am proud of the step up that law enforcement is taking. The ones that are against it…next time you have an encounter in your homes or on the street with a criminal, don’t call 911…try to rehabilitate one of these characters on your own….perhaps a hug may do..

  • BD says:

    The real question is “Why is WWAY TV giving the NAACP any airtime at all?” They aren’t relevant anymore and aren’t addressing the real issues…crime and how the city/community is going to respond and address that issue! who really cares what Barber has to say anymore…he should go play golf with Rev Al Sharpton over in Afghanistan!!!

  • truthseeker says:

    Barber and his NAACP are nothing but race baiting haters of their own plight caused by themselves. This obese moron goes from town to town with only accusations based on innuendo and “BS” and never has a remedy for any of his accusations. All he does is stir up more hate and discontent among both races and never, I repeat never has a answer. His answer is filling his fat belly with his own racist propaganda and believing he is legitimate. Barber and the NAACP are the wrong organization in the wrong time with the wrong motives and are a pitiful example of black idiocy!

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