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BOILING SPRING LAKES, NC (WWAY) — A Boiling Spring Lakes father says his son was murdered by police this afternoon.

Mark Wilsey says he called police when his 18-year-old, 90 lb. son had a screwdriver that he would not let go. But Wilsey says he never expected calling for help would end with son being shot and killed by someone sworn to serve and protect.

Wilsey says his son, Keith Vidal, had schizophrenia and was having an episode Sunday afternoon at their home on the 1100 block of President Road in Boiling Spring Lakes

He says his son had about a six-inch screwdriver and was threatening to fight his mother, so they called police to calm him down.

Wilsey says everything was under control until a third officer arrived, and the situation took a dramatic turn.

“Murder. They murdered our son for no reason,” Wilsey said. “Everything was going good, then this fat cop from Southport walks in the room, walks around the corner, says, ‘We don’t have time for this. Tase that kid now. Let’s get him out of here.'”

Wilsey says like any teenage boy, his son tried to run when he heard the word tase.

“The tasers hit him, he fell back. Two officers were on top of him. You know, he’s got the little screwdriver. I mean, I would have went and got the screwdriver from him. I went to help, and I hear a shot,” Wilsey said.

Wilsey says he grabbed the officer so he could not shoot again.

“‘What did you shoot my son for?'” Wilsey said he asked the officer. “(The officer said,) ‘Well, I’m protecting my officers.’ There was no reason for deadly force here.”

Now Vidal’s family is left mourning their loved one.

“It’s hard to talk about,” Vidal’s brother Mark Ryan Wilsey said. “But he just wanted to keep to himself, but he really was just an outgoing kid. He loved to do stuff. He was talking about coming and pressure washing working with me in the summertime.”

Vidal’s brother says he was enrolled in online classes, and trying to better himself. But now Mark Ryan Wilsey says that has been taken from him.

“The kid is 18,” Wilsey added. “He hasn’t even started his life yet, and now he’ll never get the chance to.”

Brunswick County District Attorney Jon David was at the scene shortly after the shooting.

Officials say the State Bureau of Investigations is looking into the case.

The officer involved has been put on administrative leave according to Southport Police Chief Jerry Dove.

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    Lord have mercy, I have never, ever seen a BLET class “trained” to believe citizens are the enemy. I have, however, seen and trained others to be in a state of heightened awareness, because the simple fact is, there ARE people that want to hurt us. Every year, officers are killed by people who want to hurt us, some during confrontations, others simply ambushed in their car or walking down the street. Its just part of the profession, so in order to stay alive, officers should approach people they do not know with precaution. Why wouldnt they? Sure Ive seen people I work with go overboard…it happens. Im certainly not defending anyone here, just trying to balance the argument a little cause is was rather heavy on the “govt paranoia” side.

  • John

    So many questions still to be answered ..it amazes me how many people can justify killing a teenager who was being held down by two other officers. But then I watch the news tonight and see where they are trying to use the cop out that ” he wasn’t properly trained to handle mental health issues”. My question is , then why did he enter the house?
    Though he may not be “trained” he does however have first hand knowledge dealing with a schizophrenic .
    Why don’t they ask Mr. Vassey about the mandatory training he was paid to attend a year and a half ago where he was to drunk to even attend the class and had to be escorted to his room. But I wouldn’t ask his fellow buddies at the southport PD considering they are the ones who covered his ass and helped him to his room. I’m sure his ass will be covered just as well in this also. While your asking questions why don’t you also inquire about how many inappropriate relationships Vassey has had with victims in crimes he has been investigating. Chief Dove has been well aware of Vassey being a loose cannon for years but cared more about keeping a good reputation at the department then the actual safety of the citizens. The blood of this teenager is on many peoples hands. This situation could have been avoided. You can’t give a town drunk a gun and badge and expect him to act appropriately .

  • Kblue2221984

    Another well put statement. Say’s who!? Say’s Kblue!!!

  • Jenn

    Are you suggesting schizophrenia isn’t real? This young man just turned 18 on December 10th. He was a student at his local high school. Christian values? What an oxymoron, while you suggest tossing a high schooler out of the house. Chasing his mom with a screwdriver? Who said that?

    You know nothing about the case, so until you educate yourself a bit, you should withhold commentary. You sound cruel and ridiculous.

  • Jenn

    We got the other side of the story from the dispatch recordings. The boy was shot 70 seconds after arriving on the scene, out of his jurisdiction, when the attending officers repeatedly told dispatch that everything was okay. Then the murderer claimed self defense.

    What else do we need to know?

  • Jenn

    Bryon Vassey, is that you? Or are you just a coddler of murderous cops “deputy?” You should be ashamed of yourself. YOu are just mad because you know that the dad talking to the media will get this into the national news and you won’t be able to get away with your grab for a police state.

  • Jenn

    He was in high school you disgusting creep! You (and this murderous pig) make me ashamed to live in Brunswick County!

  • TooRotten

    If true, then why did the Parents feel it so necessary to call the Police to intervene on his “threats”. Another friend of his stated that he wasn’t threatening anyone with the screwdriver, just refusing to put it down, because it was “his screwdriver”. Pops couldn’t get his non threatening son to put it down prior to calling the cops? The parents couldn’t just let this non confrontational and non threat just wait until this episode calmed down? They couldn’t distract him from being non threatening by offering to take him for a joyride or something? No, they HAD to call the Police because he WAS threatening, he WAS confrontational, he WAS delusional and aiming to harm another! If it was going to be so easy to take this “little screwdriver, that wouldn’t hurt anybody” away, why didn’t bog ol’ Daddy do it??? Yeah, I thought so! If this loose nut wasn’t harming anyone, wouldn’t hurt a fly, then WHY so many calls to the big mean, out of control Police??

  • TooRotten

    “The Police have been here several times, they know him”, but you have lived with, dealt with him for his 18 years! YOU know him the best, for the longest and you were in fear for your own safety! So you called the Police to deal with him. When he was in an “episode”, already delusional and Paranoid, you call in the Police to confront him. The Police give him commands, which he ignores, further agitating the young guy and the Police… Please explain if he had other violent outbursts/episodes? Where were the Dr.s or Psychiatrists, you couldn’t have him call them? There is a LOT more history here, but the Media just loves a good Cop shooting story. The Police are not paid to die for you or raise your kids for you or cook your Christmas dinner for you.

  • Eyes Up

    ..are a scholar and a gentleman.

  • vani@reincarnate.com

    I am a middle aged woman with a bad back and health issues.. and I have handled more dangerous threats working the graveyard shift. Seriously, these men are too cowardly to work at a 7-11, much less be a cop.

  • bubba

    his comments are very very poor in taste, but he is entitled to his opinion just as you are, which everyone above has expressed. Granted, this is a horrible outcome, but we still don’t know all the facts yet. Let’s just wait til the dust settles before you cast your judgment on others. The pendulum is definitely swinging strong one way, let the idiots be idiots and judge not lest ye be judged.

  • vancine collier

    look we all know good cop bad cop no one should ever have to question if they should or should not call the authorities. If your house was on fire would you not call them and let your house burn down because their was one fireman you didn’t like i think not. Like it or not that is their job and we should respect that they put their lives on the line every day. Yes everyone is shocked with what has happened. That doesn’t mean that all caps are good an all cops are bad. lets not be to quick to point a finger the law will deal with this Officer and if they don’t get it right then one day GOD will. This family is grieving one of the worst deaths they could ever have to deal with as parents. lets leave our comments to ourselves and let the right people deal with it. if you really want to do something go to the families ask what you can do for them because i promise they could use help even if its just washing dishes. god bless these families and lets all pray for them.

  • wyldesage

    I don’t know that you should be speaking of “Good Christian Values”.

    A person with “Good Christian Values” would not speak ill of parents who just witnessed their child die. They especially would not do so on a local news site that the friends and family of the deceased visit.

    Before you start showing off that you somehow love Christ better than other people do… perhaps you should work on the Christ-Like love, as well.

    Also, it’s none of your business why he had a stepfather.

  • David Call

    Mr Lee………I would be concerned whether Mark Wilsey comes and you have to call them for him! Your comments are very antagonistic !!!

  • melissahewett42

    So you know mental illness. Please free to contact me and i will teach you a thing or two. Would you like to met my mother who pull her hair out, see’s Jesus, hides under her bed? I will be happy to involve you in the life i have lived the past 30 years as her only caregiver. Comments like yours is just plain ignorant. Its because of people like you that we have lost funding. Yes you will see more and more cases than you did ten years ago because ten years ago we had mental health.
    FYI: mental illness has nothing to do with GOD or how your raised, please tell me where you got your medical degree???

  • Kelly

    You have to be kidding me right? You have to be the most heartless person ever. I was unaware that because a person has mental health issues that person deserved to be killed.
    And how do you know this person receives a check, do you monitor their mailbox?
    There are plenty of people who suffer from mental health issues that don’t sit on the couch and wait on the 1st of the month. They maintain and keep regulated through proper care and medication.
    God forbid this was your child who was shot and killed , I would hope you would be just as upset and outraged!
    Granted we don’t know all the facts yet but either way how can anything good come from a persons life lost?
    How is that a good thing?
    The way this post was written it makes it sound like a law enforcement officer wrote it, I would pray that we wouldn’t have someone so soulless and unsympathetic in a position that is suppose to protect and serve . If so that is a very scary thought!


    The information you added makes this even worse.. officers sent to the address “too many times” put together with them saying they “have no time for this” so they just shoot the kid? Guess it made you miss your coffee break 1 too many times or something?

    People need to wake up to the fact that you can no longer afford to trust cops. Even a good cop is only as good as the company he keeps

    This family learned that the hard way..

  • Kblue2221984

    Well put, and to the point. I agree with you…Say’s who!? Say’s Kblue!!!

  • ted

    Happens all the time, adults and children and dogs.. and all you need to do it google “Police killing settlement’ or “Police brutality settlement” to see that police routinely assault and murder people including children and the mentally ill…. and when the facts do come out will the officer be held accountable? Probably not. No fault settlements and he keeps his job…. and you, my friend, and your fellow citizens get to pay for his insensitivity, his villainy…

  • Sasha

    You’re a disgusting individual.. You worry about money? Over some child’s life? You don’t deserve life, let alone to comment on this article. Show some respect to this grieving family.. You ignorant, greedy, scum.

  • kevin alexander banks

    I knew keith. I have picked him up with one arm. Keith with a screw driver is like a child with a pencil. Unarmed and not dangerous

  • David

    You are a pathetic pacifist who deserves to be treated this way for believing that this is ok. I hope that the next time it’s you or ANYONE you love that gets killed by these thugs so you can continue justifying this ridiculous behavior.

  • Monkey Junction

    This kid was diagnosed with schizophrenia. This is not an imaginary disease and it has real manifestations of paranoid delusions. Your attempt to stigmatize mental illness is the problem. Mental illnesses are real and have nothing to do with discipline, morals, or God. Your antiquated line of thinking is the problem.

    What in the world does schizophrenia have to do with Christian values? Heck the kid might have heard what he thought was the voice of Gad telling him to do these things.

    I have no real idea if the shooting was justified or not, hopefully time will tell. But your post is full of the nonsense and babble that causes mental illnesses to be untreated and demonized.

  • David

    Idiot! 90# kid with a “deadly” screwdriver. Are you seriously trying to convince ANYONE that this a weapon? What a wimp!!

  • David

    You are in serious error! They are trained that citizens are the enemy and will be dealt with as such. If you seriously disbelieve this obvious truth then you should research before opening your pacifist mouth. They are trained to uphold the laws of whatever town/city at any cost. They are trained to treat every citizen as a suspect until a judge or other higher authority clears them. Period. Research man!

  • Only-n-bc

    Well well deputy25 aren’t you the most pleasant person , your bashing a father for speaking about what he seen whether it’s fact or what he thinks he seen but yet you seem to think its ok for you to to assume he wasn’t concerned over what happened that he was just trying to get on tv . Regardless an 18 year old with a screwdriver was killed at the hands of someone else .so as you stated you wasn’t there nor do you know how it happened so why don’t you keep your mouth shut on how you think the father should be acting . Obviously your a sick twisted person yourself ,hell who knows you may be the one that pulled the trigger !



  • collin

    no police officer is trained that “citizens are the enemy”. they are trained to PROTECT citizens and order. In no way are any officers ever told that the citizens in which they protect, that they are the enemy?

    please check your facts before posting such ludicrous statements

  • Andrew

    The boy was not “unarmed”

  • Eyes Up

    Pardon me, are you asking people to wait for the facts before rushing to judgement?

    On this board I see numerous posts where you keep saying the father is emotionless at the loss of his son, and neglecting his wife? Where are your facts there?

    At least our judgement are over OUR servants, whom we have a duty to hold accountable. Also, we aren’t the jury.. we can base our opinion on the available information

    You, on the other hand, are making baseless insults against the family of the deceased.

    I don’t know if you are an actual cop or a just a wannabe jackboot-humper… but I DO know that you are NOT a human. You are a base and low THING.

  • jack hammer

    Plus one. Recently, we have heard about cops forcing citizens to have their mouths DNA-swabbed at unconstitutional (voluntary, but not really) checkpoints in Virginia, and New Mexico cops & sheriff deputies digitally probing a female (without a warrant) to search for drugs. Regardless of the circumstance, emergency or not, I can’t see any value to calling on the uniformed government thugs for assistance.

    Does the absentee father remain blameless is this? I doubt it. And I won’t be surprised if the “parents” play this for a suitcase payday. Blood-dancing on the grave of their “troubled” son, that should have long since been institutionalized. But…

    Let’s see an interview with this Southport hero. I’ll bet if he’d pulled some kittens out of a burning tree, he’d be happy to have his name and picture published. If he needed his firearm to manage a situation versus anyone, even a full-sized man, wielding nothing but a screwdriver, he’s nothing but a coward. Personally, for my own peace of mind, I’d like to see a picture of this goon before I pass through Brunswick County again.

    Resist the cops. Resist the urge to involve the cops, at all cost. Never trust them any further than you can throw them. The burgeoning police state is not your friend.

  • Eyes Up

    Wow, taunting the family of the dead now, are you? I don’t know if explaining this to a soulless imbecile, such as yourself, will do any good. Still, I shall do you the favor of pretending you are intelligent enough to get what I have to say.

    The man is not spending 24/7 on TV. Only the proufoundly stupid and/or deliberate decievers would say he’s not spending time with his wife, just because he is ALSO seeking justice for his son.

    Now I know cops and jackboot humpers like to taunt the family of the dead in cases like this, but that makes you lower than the WBC types.

  • David McKee

    Police should be held to a much higher standard – and if (and I say if) what the father said is true, this “cop” should be convicted of murder and then should himself given capital punishment by firing squad.

    Most police are good men and women. They routinely put their lives on the line for very low pay. When a power hungry scumbag who thinks of himself as the Nazi SS thought of themselves, gets into their ranks, that scumbag needs to be taken out…permanently.

  • I agree with Abuse of Power

    Well said!

  • PublicAvenger

    Well said Gramps. My heart goes out to this young man, and the police, that had to deal with this nightmare situation.

    Perhaps if someone could have gotten to this kid earlier in life, with good Christian Values, and stern, positive, Southern work-ethic discipline, things would have been much better.

    Instead of the “expert” psycho-babbles, treating him with bottles of medication, and this disability-entitlement, mentality. By the way, why are he and his “father” have different last names ?

  • Grant Lee

    The one good thing that took place here is one less deranged freeloader gets a check now.
    And that family will never have to call 911 again! Handle all your own issues now!

    We never want another call at that address again. You folks have called for us to quell issues there not just with your son 68 times. I have lived in BSL 43 years and have had to call 911 a total of 3 times! You have way outdone me in 3 years!
    I feel for your loss, but don’t start calling your problem solvers Murderers!

  • John

    “Psychology garbage ruining our society” –Wow! If anything is ruining our society it’s certainly not psychology. These lazy parents you speak of are your generation’s sons and daughters, so way to go raising them right since according to you it’s always the parents fault for how their kids end up…

    When you were a kid..

    a) you probably weren’t schizophrenic so of course you didn’t behave like one so there’s that…

    b) people like this boy weren’t in your schools, and if he was it was a self contained classroom and you never saw them. Now as a way to promote them adapting and blazing a path in life they are included in the general population classrooms where they work, skin elbows or whatever, make mistakes, and learn how to function in society. Wait…still blaming school administrators???

    As far as the catch 22 I think there is definitely some middle ground between ignoring him and SHOOTING HIM DEAD.

    And how do you know that family does not go to church on Sundays? Christian values should of been followed by that police officer that pulled his gun and FIRED on someone’s son. Do onto others is the saying correct?

  • Eyes Up

    In highschool I dated a guy who was 6 foot 3 and 120lbs. The poor guy would sometimes eat spoons of lard in hopes of gaining weight.. on top of the fact he ate like a horse, too. He stayed like that until he was in his early 30’s

  • Eyes Up

    I am truly and deeply sorry for your loss.

    I think I saw you talking about this last night, on the boards from the initial report of the story. I am deeply saddened and more than a little angered at how certain people were gloating and taunting Keith’s friends and family. I’m just grateful most of the locals were supportive.

    I hope that the fact that the shooter was from a different agency than the two who had him restrained, will increase the chances that they will tell the truth instead of “backing a bro”. I also hope the FBI gets involved, because you cant trust internal investigation to do anything but look for a way to justify the murder.

  • Eyes up

    They also lost their daughter in an automobile accident recently.

    I was on a news site in their local area, last night. Most of the locals were supporting the family… but a few townies were rubbing it in, and taunting the family members by name. One was the brother of one of the cops involved. (they were all locals, the story was new… so you could get a REAL good feel for what was going on)

    THANK YOU for being one of the few decent people who understands how a human being with a soul, is supposed to behave.

  • Eyes UP

    We should go back to the old Christian way to doing this

    They shouldn’t have diagnosed him as mentally ill.. we should burn him at the stake for communing with demons.

    (And before anyone take this as a general attack on Christianity, it is not. I realize that it’s been a couple centuries since such was a common occurrence, and that the thought is repellent to most Christians. It IS however, a statement that Gramps35 needs to understand that the problem ISN’T that there are less members of his religion, and that his religion is not magically immune to grievous flaws)

    Seriously, my faith is important to me too… but I understand that all the problems of the world won’t be solved by making everyone else follow it. It’s a shame that gramps still hasn’t managed to learn that.

  • Matt Long

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  • Guest72

    Enough said.

  • JLK

    There is a huge difference between raising a child and trying to control an adult who is experiencing a psychotic episode. It sounds like you are saying these parents are not being good parents and do not know how to be a parent period because they have had to call the cops to help control their son. When you have an adult child with a severe mental illness like schizophrenia, sometimes calling law enforcement is the only choice you have. Yes, maybe it is sad that they have had to call the cops multiple times, and maybe that should have been a sign that he should be put into a medical facility. Or maybe he wasn’t taking his medication as prescribed, who knows. But you can not jump to the conclusion that they do not know how to parent until you have walked in their shoes and raised a child with schizophrenia.

  • guestyI

    If 3 law officers can not subdue a mentally ill 5’5′ 100 lb person that’s already face down on the floor without shooting and killing them it’s truly a scary and sad state of affairs in Brunswick Co.
    This was murder and should be treated as such. If the DA doesn’t prosecute this as a murder or at least voluntary manslaughter we should organize and protest this barbarity.
    Crap like this is part of the reason people would rather shoot a policeman than be taken into custody. Too much of this happens in SE NC. This isn’t the first time an unarmed person has been gunned down and murder in our area.

  • Matt

    First, your only hearing one side of the story.. For a father who just lost his son, he really wasn’t showing any emotions. Also if it was such a little screwdriver why didn’t he just take it away from the kid??? Its so easy to blame the cops for any little thing now.. Let the SBI do the investigation.. If the cop was in the wrong, then yes he should be dealt with. Tell you what.. All of the one’s on here with neg. comments towards cops, if any time in the near future you should need the police.. Don’t worry calling them, since a lot of you seem to know how to handle all situations.

  • Matt martain

    I know these officers in BSL also and never have I encountered them when they weren’t respectful or professional. The fatal shot came from a southport officer . The father stated that he had called the police many times. In the past to intervene and it seems they handled the situation without incident. They never had to use deadly force. The minute southport or another agency got involved it ended with tragedy. Put the blame where it belongs. The father said the two officers inside had the situation under control without shooting him, the 3rd officer from another agency “didn’t have time for this” and shot a subdued person.

  • guestwhat

    I guess a 90lb kid had them in fear of their lives. Give me a break!

  • Sarah

    Are you freaking kidding me? He was schizophrenic, sometimes it is absolutely necessary for a parent to have to call law enforcement to help control their mentally ill children. I am a mental health therapist working in an intensive outpatient program for mentally ill children and teens. And yes, sometimes even we professionals, who have been trained for this job, are forced to call law enforcement to control a client. Clearly you understand nothing about mental illness, otherwise you would not be placing blame on the parents. You are a despicable human being.

  • SurfCityTom

    that the DA is on the scene of virtually every serious incident, unless they occur in 1 of the hoods, while the officers are still on the scene?

    A. He has no confidence in the investigating officers?

    B. Free mention of his name as he aspires to replace Roy Cooper 1 day?

    It would seem he and his assistants would spend more time on cases, once presented by the officers, to actually take them to trial and reduce the number of plea bargains which might send a message to wannabe thugs and criminals.

  • Ashley

    This is just tragic. When all the facts come out about the officer in question maybe people won’t be so quick to defend him!
    Also while the incident may have happened in boiling springs lakes, the officer was a southport officer .
    Boiling springs police officers are NOT who pulled the trigger. I have read comments questioning why the family even called the police and even blaming the dad for what happened. Are you serious ??
    A lot of times in heated situations an outside source is needed to defuse it. How many times have you tried to clam someone down in vail and then a friend or someone walk in a calm the child right down. Police officers are trained to deal with people with mental health issues without the use of deadly force! If we can’t call the police for interventions then why are they there for in the first place. I am not a cop hater I have the upmost respect for officers in the line of duty. I do not have respect for officers who obviously abuse their power .
    All I can say is this was a lose cannon that has been covered up for years and now a life is lost!
    My condolences are with the family.

  • shawn

    LEO24 you have no idea what it takes to have a kid with mental disablity and for you to say that it’s the parents fault that they do not know how to raise their kids and etc is completely wrong they were asking for help with their child to help defuse a situation their child suffers from schizophrenia. There was no reason for the offercer to have shot that kid. NO matter if he had a screwdriver in his had or not. What they should have let take place is let the kid return to the room in which he was retreating to or safe zone.

  • Guest123123

    Why was a Southport police officer even there. Was he called by a BSL officer? I would think someone from the Sheriffs dept would come if extra help was needed.Verbal commands can be very persuasive in a situation like this if done by the right officer. I just do not see how this could not have been handled with just the taser or pepper spray.


    Have you ever dealt with someone who has mental health issues? Based on your ignorant comments I am going to assume NO!! This is not like dealing with a normal teenage son. He was not trying to have the police raise his son, these type of people have to handled very differently. They have officers that are trained just to handle situations like this. Maybe before you talk junk you should do your research!!

  • Guest12345678

    My husband is 23 and weighs 110 lbs. when he was 18
    He weighed the same as this boy did and he eats like a horse.
    So before bashing the parents, you would need to know the
    Full story. Also, people like you need to learn to speak
    A little more gently when posting comments like this.
    Those parents just lost their son!! Then you and anyone else
    Have the nerve to bash their parenting skills?! You should
    Be ashamed.

  • Richelle Przybycien

    I’m not sure why you have the right to judge what these parents are like based on one story… They just lost their son so I’m also not sure why you would bad them as parents like that. This boy had a disorder that made him hard to handle. Just because you’re a parent doesn’t mean you become superman.. If they felt their safety was in jeopardy they did the right thing in calling the police. You my friend need to step back and put yourself in their shoes for a day.

  • Amy Madden

    Did you not see the part where it said he had schizophrenia? He was having a psychotic breaks, it’s wasn’t his parents fault that they couldn’t “control” him.

  • Bufhhdhf

    What all citizens of this country need to wake up and realize is, to law enforcement, you are now the enemy. This is how thy are trained and how they approach every single day on the job. Citizens are the enemy, and at any moment each and every one of us could end their life. They do not protect, they control. Thy do not serve, they order. Law enforcement is not there for you any longer.

    This is the reality of what this country has become. Law enforcement has become militarized. They are soldiers, and you are the enemy.

  • Becca

    It makes me sick to my stomach to know that such “men” as these are those who have sworn to serve and protect us. It breaks my heart that because of one lazy, arrogant cop, a family now has to suffer the loss of a son. A police officer should be properly trained to handle a NINETY POUND BOY. If anything, the third officer should have put him in handcuffs so he would have been unable to do anything with the screwdriver. More and more stories have been surfacing of police officers killing people in situations that were completely wrong. These police officers need to get control of their God-complexes and get off of their high horses, start ACTUALLY protecting us and helping people out of terrible situations. My prayers go out to this family and I hope God serves that police officer justice in one way or another.

  • It’s Me

    Several questions I would like to know more about:
    1. Why didn’t big dad take the “little 6 inch screwdriver from his son?”
    2. They must have felt an imminent threat since they called police for assistance.
    3. If he only weighed 90 pounds, why wasn’t DSS involved for “failure to thrive.” Really and truly, 90 pounds for an 18 year old is probably not quite accurate.
    4. I find it hard to believe any officer would shoot between 2 fellow officers and risk hitting one of them.
    5. Someone having a psychotic episode can be very dangerous and quite strong.
    6. Sometimes tasing has no effect on psychotic individuals.
    WWAY stay on Jon David for more information on this. From the dad’s account, he wasn’t in the room when the shooting occurred. He “came around the corner.”

  • Guest2020

    My prayers go out to the family. I hope the SBI is successful in ascertaining the truth of the matter.

  • deputy25

    just wondering something, not being funny or anything. were you at the house when this happened? just wondering. great comment by the way. sound like a great friend.

  • Brittany

    It was a Southport Officer that shot him…. NOT a BSL officer.

  • Guest-o-matic

    This is a very unfortunate incident and it sounds as thought there are a lot of variables to include a teenager with obviously severe mental problems. It seems very inappropriate to headline this article that the “Father says his 18 year old son was murdered by a Southport police officer.” That is no more than opinion at this point and displays an uneccessary and obvious smearing of the Southport police department. This is the “opinion” of a father that has just lost his son. The father intentionally called the police to gain control of his son due to his own inability to do so during a family crisis involving violence.

    Until the facts are on the table and an investigation is conducted, harse “opinions” and accusations of “murder” by police officers should be avoided until confirmed. This type of headline is nothing other than a news grab and is parallel the the “opinions” that the Creekwood thugs are really great guys, helpful community members, pillars of their neighborhood and really don’t deserve life sentences for a “mistake”. While I can understand the ignorance of individuals making such posts, I can’t comprehend a professional news agency relaying that same mentality in their headlines.

  • Timothy Brock

    I live in Bsl and know first hand how these cops do around here. They show up and show out I hope they get the book thrown at them.. (don’t have time for this) it’s boiling spring lakes it’s a couple of roads and a handful of people what else could you possibly have going on that’s more important than protecting this young man and his family… let me guess … you interrupted this fat cops food/donut break!

  • deputy25

    Thank You. very well put. but the idiots out here in tv land will just think that a cop shot a killed someone little kid for no reason until the facts come out. good questions, very good.

  • Sandy @ the beach

    My heart goes out to this family. I learned the hard way not to call the police for help. When my violent ex-husband would go on a rampage, they would come out and tell me and my children to leave. When they were talking to him and I would walk over he would go into a rage. They would blame me and tell me to walk away or I could go to jail. No drugs or alcohol were ever involved as we were not partiers. Thanks to the wonderful people at Hope Harbor House I was able to leave him before more damage could be done to my childrens frame of minds. I pray this family gets justice and the police get some badly needed training to avoid future murders by those sworn to “Serve and Protect us!”

  • Traveln’Woman

    This is sad. I know that the media usually twists stories to get what they want but there has to be some truth to this. What the hell is the kid going to do with a screwdriver? It cannot do any real physical harm when used by a 90lb boy against two grown men. I really hope the cop who shot Keith goes to jail for a really long time. Tasing him is somewhat understandable but shooting him? No. You could have restrained him instead.


  • guest28403

    Too often officers shoot first before they think. Im not down on all police. I have family who are in law enforcement and having worked Fire Rescue previously I have friends who are cops. My problem is all to often police exceed reasonable force in situations lik these. Sure part of the blame is the system. Our mental health system is a disaster to say the least and police have too little training in dealing with mental illness patients. The tasers were likely adequate to resolve the issue so the use of deadly force was excessively likely in this case and I hope the officer in question is disciplined, if egegrious enough he could face manslaughter charges I imagine and maybe that will be deserved maybe not but it seems to me the BSL officers in question at least one totally mishandled this case sadly. A 18yr old young man is dead and his family is left with only questions and no clear answers in the end.

  • Anthony Owens

    There aren’t any words that can express how deeply hurt I am that this happened. Today the world lost an awesome person. Keith was like a little brother to me. I sat many times with him and listened to him play drums, or sat in a hot condo stand with him waiting for a pig to mosey out to eat some corn.. Or just watching his drumming videos saying “man this kids talented”. I have been to the place it happened and seen the carnage left in the wake of a bad decision. Despite what any news organization or police representative says to try to justify this cold blooded murder, The facts of the matter are as follows..FIRST THINGS FIRST ( Keith didn’t threaten anyone with the screw driver, He merely stated it was his screwdriver and that he didn’t want to put it down.) Two full grown , Officers of the law, attempted to calm Keith down. If they had stayed there course things would have been fine. Instead a rash and unforgiving 3rd party decided they didn’t have time to save a life, and instead of help, he decided to END a promising young life. Keith Vidal Was a very passionate kid and loved music and basketball more than any thing on this earth..He had many friends and will be dearly missed. He loved his family and they in return loved him.. Today was a tragedy. S.O.P couldn’t have been followed. There is no way that Keith deserved to die today… In support of the family I would ask all of you to please pray for the Wilsey/Vidal Families and If you are local, Please help stand against Police Brutality and Unjust Shooting Deaths. Keith shall never again grace us with his illusive smile, He may never play another game of Team Deathmatch with his buddies on xbox, and he may never bang his drums in Madison square garden.. But what we can do for him is make sure that his death was not in vain. We can push and demand justice for this travesty. We can establish laws to protect the mentally ill when they are in their dire time of need. We can refuse to accept the fact that in North Carolina a young man may be held down in his own home tased and then shot by the people who were called there to help.
    There are no hear say statements in anything I have posted… I have talked to the people involved.. Keith was Murdered in the hall way of his home by a Southport Police Officer in Boiling Springs Lakes. The officer said “concern for officers safety” was the reason he shot Keith. Yet his concern for officer safety Was null and void when he fired his weapon into a mass of bodies on the floor at close range.. He could have just as easily killed one of his own.. If it weren’t for Keith’s Father grabbing the officer, He would have shot him again.. Keith was a big person in a small body. About 5’3 to 5’5 and 90 to 100lbs Keith was small for his age. Trained officers should know the difference between a 6’5 335 lbs monster and a 5’3 100lb kid.. All that I can say is PASS IT ON. DO NOT LET THIS BE SWEPT UNDER THE GOOD OLE BOY RUG.. DO NOT LET THIS MAN GET AWAY WITH MURDER.. NEXT TIME IT COULD BE CLOSER TO HOME. KEITH WAS SHOT LIKE A DOG IN THE FLOOR OF HIS HOME. . PLEASE HELP US AND DEMAND THE TRUTH AND FOR JUSTICE TO BE SERVED..
    Rest In Peace Little Brother, you will be forever missed..
    Anthony Owens — with Keith Vidal.

  • anonymous

    This is such a tragedy. No excuse for this the officer who did it needs to loose his job!!!!!

  • Julie Schaeffer

    I am so disturbed and sickened by this horrible, tragic, and totally senseless killing. For a police officer to have no more regard for a human life than this is disgusting. A family calls for help, help they needed, help that they deserved, and their son is EXECUTED. Where is the compassion? The Sympathy? I guess we should all be thanking God that were still alive, because if the police shot every teenager that was out of control at one time or another, we would all be dead. Police officers DEMAND respect, THEY are in charge. They have all the power, and we must OBEY. Heres what I think, they should BE HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD, THEY SHOULD SHOW MORE SELF CONTROL THAN A MENTALLY ILL 18 YIEAR OLD BOY WIELDING A SCREWDRIVER. THIS OFFICER NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. To protect and serve? Who? Certainly not the people who asked fir help, and certainly not the young man who needed help. If there is any justice at all in this world, this sorry excuse of a human being will NEVER touch another weapon, or better yet NEVER see the outside of a cell.

  • guestg

    MURDERERS. Sue the Hell out of them.

  • LEO24

    This situation that happened is a sad one for sure. Its sad the family had to call 911 to control their son. Its also sad the officers had to shoot the out of control son holdind a weapon.
    The father made the statemnt ‘the officers have been here several times, and know him’. That is sad too.

    Its a shame they had to be called to control your kid a job you obviously couldnt or wouldnt do! Seems to everyone you have no idea how to be a parent. Maybe if you have other children, try not to call Law Enforcement to help raise them. The guy had a weapon I for one have seen a man throw a screwdriver years ago and it hit an officer in the neck! Thank God he was taken to the hospital and had it removed. But I guess thats ok, because that officer chose that type job? Well that can be said for anybody holding a weapon towards anybody. They made that Choice.

  • gramps1935

    This poor kid. When I was young, ALL kids were a little off, in some way. But we were disciplined. And learned to adapt, and overcome.

    Nowadays, lazy parents, and school administrators, are quick to “diagnose” them as bipolar, or whatever, and cram a million pills down their throats, and give them “crazy checks”. This psychology garbage is ruining our society.

    Then the poor kid becomes a complete nut case. Living like a 8 year old kid, at mama’s house, when he’s 18. He becomes a worthless, lazy, parasite, bum.

    This is not natural. Naturally they’re gonna freak out. He should be growing up. Working, skinning his elbows, learning from his mistakes, and blazing his path in life. Like we had to do, when I was young.

    This festers a selfish mindset of no discipline, nor morals. He lives a worthless existence. Then something like this, is bound to explode,and happen. When I was a kid, I would never even think of chasing my mom around the house, to stab her, with a screwdriver.

    The police are in a “Catch-22”. They ignore him, and let him stab his mom, then dad will be just as “mad”, saying the police should have subdued him. By the way, I did not see even the slightest bit of remorse from Dad. It looked more like a “gotcha” attitude.

    Situations like this are the result of a society, turning from raising kids on Christian values. And relying on psycho-babble, “experts”, to “treat” our children. This boy deserved better. I believe this tragedy started with psycho-babble.

  • deputy25

    1 question. DO YOU KNOW THE FACTS , THE TRUE FACTS OF THE CASE HERE? or just what ‘pop’ has said??

  • Eyes Up

    It is is ignorant to say it is irresponsible journalism to report a quote. This is true, even if that quote contains an opinion. The headline gives an 100% accurate report of what happened. The father said that. If the headline was “Father witnesses cops murdering son”, you would be on to something. That’s not what the headline says though, is it?

    Secondly, you are ignorant of the meaning of fact and opinion. An opinion means something that cannot be proven or disproved. A fact is something that can be disproved or proven. With numerous people around, forensic evidence, etc… this CAN be proven or disproved.

  • deputy25

    HEY POPS , if you are so concerned for your son,step son, go and be with your wife and console her instead of trying to start a “NANCY GRACE ” segment for the news media. i dont know how it all went down, whos fault it is, all we know is what you said. stay off the tv and at least appear to be concerned!!!!!!

  • I believe you

    The last year of the 20 year marraige, my husband kept me prisoner, starved me, and deprived me of medical care when I had cancer. I melted away to 100 lbs (i am 5 foot 7 and large boned, so that was NOT a good kind of thin)

    He’d taunt me about how I was going to die. Tell me how much joy he took in watching me rot to death, slowly.

    He forgot to take his bag of journals to work with him one day.. and I managed to look inside.. and he was grading and scoring himself on his mental abuse of me, and ranting about fights we had when we were teenagers.

    I managed to get help from a neighbor calling the cops. They said I looked like a meth addict, said it was my word against his, refused to look at the journals, etc. I told them that I wasn’t on drugs, and they could drug test me if they didn’t believe me, and begged them again to look at the evidence. They said that they’d arrest me for disturbing the police if I didn’t stop wasting their time with my drama. The only “investigating” they did was to ask the neighbor if she ever saw or heard him hit me.. she (truthfully) said no.. and they took that as “proof” of me being wrong.

    After that, my husband skipped town after leaving me with a broken foot, a severe blow to the head, and a stab wound from a BBQ fork. The cops never bothered investigating, or even showing up at the hospital to take a report. (Required by law in the state I lived in)

    Luckily, it had at least reached a point that friends my husband cut me off from, got wind of what was going on.. and took turns putting me up until my health recovered enough to move back to my hometown and find a job. It’s the only reason I’m alive today.

    The Supreme Court now says that the cops have no duty to protect and serve. They aren’t here for us. They’re here to keep us in line.

  • deputy25

    are you a police officer? has anyone ever been at you with a screwdriver 6 inches long? it can kill and has killed officers before. you ever dealt with a mental person in a rage? 90 lbs can be be very deceiving when trying to handle one/ they are strong, very strong at any age. i guess you are just believing only what you have heard ‘pop’ said on tv. i guess you could just disarm a raging person with a srewdriver anytime you want.

  • izzy0817

    Obviously you missed the part about the boy having a schizophrenic episode? You cannot “control” those.

  • Tex

    It should have been simple for 1 or more of the officers to throw a towel, blanket, or even a jacket at the kid. Natural instinct dictates to block or duck an object being thrown over or into ones face at which time he could have been tackled once distracted and put off guard. Also the jacket, towel, or blanket could have been used to trap or snare the screwdriver making it possible to subdue and contain this young man with the least amount of physical force, unfortunately cops don”t have to be real smart so they are incapable of common sense, critical thinking or problem solving and so there you have it another victim of the Blue Gang

  • Tex

    It should have been simple for 1 or more of the officers to throw a towel, blanket, or even a jacket at the kid. Natural instinct dictates to block or duck an object being thrown over or into ones face at which time he could have been tackled once distracted and put off guard. Also the jacket, towel, or blanket could have been used to trap or snare the screwdriver making it possible to subdue and contain this young man with the least amount of physical force, unfortunately cops don”t have to be real smart so they are incapable of common sense, critical thinking or problem solving and so there you have it another victim of the Blue Gang

  • Coalition for a Better Society

    People with mental illness have a genetic predisposition to developing it and society punishes them for what other people do to them as a result. The mentally ill receive care from the health system and begin to deal with their issues. People that fraudulently portray themselves as honorable members of society do things like this because the mental sickness is greater in them. If they were treated that way, the sick-minded would never leave the mental hospital. The tubby cop would murder their own family member (the one mentioned as living with him) if they didn’t have a check for them to care about instead of the people. When the bullet left the gun, so did the reason why he became a police officer. Maybe someday he can get dressed in the morning and realize what he doesn’t stand for! This cop will never be treated for the illness he spreads to make a living!

  • a

    Totally agree. Well said; I have the same argument: they could of disabled him. This cheap excuse of endangerment is overrated. If the kid would of thrown a turd at them, they would have shot him the same and claimed they were in danger. It all gone to shit, there is no respect – justice – discipline, and definitely no patience and understanding to people with disabilities. Just look at how we treat our vet’s with the same problem, after they put their lives on the line and come back all messed up. If we can’t help them, much less help will be afforded to civilians. Too sad all this is happening.

  • down-home-guy

    From what they say it sounds like a good shoot… if he had a weapon of ANY KIND and made a threatening move toward any of the people around. I WOULD HAVE SHOT HIM TOO. Their job is to protect the lives of the innocent including themselves. if he was disoriented, sick, drugged makes NO DIFFERENCE if ANY threat is perceived by the officers they have a duty to protect themselves and the others. It may not be nice or fair but its a fact. A police officers job is NEVER black and white all situations are different. I hope ALL involved are OK….. NO ONE SAID LETS SHOOT HIM, or kill him, or anything that resembled an intent to cause serious physical harm.The officers remarks were insensitive but thats it……….I know my comments will not be perceived as popular but folks, reality is never popular. people will look at the decisions made within that second or two for months or years.

  • guest4456

    I do not believe 3 police officers could not subdue a 100lb individual without using deadly force. I find it interesting that the “fat cop” pulled the trigger. Besides the shift to a paramilitary police culture, the physical fitness of many officers is grotesque and could be part of the problem. It is potentially a problem in these situations because the officer may be too lazy or physically unfit to adddress the situation causing the officer to bypass appropiate steps in the use of force paradigm.

  • Willy Wanka

    Justice system is a joke. You all know it is. The cops are protected, and the families will have to go out of their way to proceed with legal matters to prosecute/sue this p.o.s. cop who shot their kid. Too many have forgotten the little phrase “don’t tread on me” and what it stands for. I can only hope that the police involved die slowly of the worst cancer and I hope their kids die in a horrible car fire right in front of them.

  • Scott

    You are totally unfit to be a cop as well with this cowardly mentality!. You sir are a coward, plain and simple. True bravery is not about taking a life but sparing a life and risking injury rather than killing. You and this cop are nothing but pussies who are so afraid of any kind of physical confrontation that you just hide behind your damn gun and shoot then try to rationalize your cowardice. You disgust me and are an example why cops suck!

  • Gina McKenna

    It’s unfortunate that the responding officers are not fully trained to deal with these situations. This boy was treated as his life was worth no more than that of a crazed animal to be put down if necessary. When I was watching the interview it struck me that not one person was shedding a tear for this poor boy and the unfortunate incident. I am not a cold person but if that was my son I would distraught and devastated. I hope he was loved and will be missed by by someone even though his life might have been hard to deal with. RIP in heaven he will find peace and understanding.

  • Jasper

    If you feel the need to use a gun against a small, outnumbered guy with a screwdriver, then you are a massive sissy.

  • guest111

    This kid had just been tasered. . more than once. Did he really have his faculties about him to threaten three cops?

  • jeremy

    would you have shot him after he was tased and subdued by two other officers?

  • Molon labe

    Good shoot ? Deadly force ?then kill everyone in a car that passes you on the highway that has the ability to hit you with a deadly weapon (a car) is adeadly weapon ,come on just open fire let the mass killings begin .
    The black uniform army that used to protect and serve ,,, and wear blue , Now seems to be a bunch of thugs, same as a modern gang that kills at will . Your new ss uniforms are just missing the skull and crossbones to really get back to the good old days of the forties hitler would be proud .black uniforms and cars painted black are for intimidation psy ops 101 , lets stop this cops against the public mentality .and get them under control. They forget who they work for the second they get hired. Because of the gang mentality once in the club , hey you are accountable and i hope justice is served . And a message goes out tothe rest of the gang of would be thugs this tragedy is unacceptable . To the few good officers left ,please keep the faith we are counting on you now more than ever, speak up when wrong is done , and just follow the simple golden rule .
    p.s.. Do not tread on me . Screwdriver my a—- three cops against a screwdriver we are not buying it .

  • mac

    never call police unless you have no other way. they are trained to write tickets kill people and inprison people . things are not what they seem when it comes to any form of government or law system

  • Chris Taylor

    The litmus test to prove this is BS is simple.

    why can’t “I” shoot a cop who threatens me?

    see how easy it is to show that kind of stance is BS ?

  • Concerned citizen

    I read that the teen’s mother had tried to access Mental Health services for her son. I wonder if they were denied needed services by Coastal Care like so many mental health patients in our area?! It’s such a sad, tragic situation. One can’t help but think that things could be so different for this grieving family if proper services were in place to provide the needed support. Sadly, as more and more people are denied services by Coastal Care, we will likely see an increase in incidents where cops who are not trained in dealing with mental health needs act improperly when intervening. A couple of weeks or less of a mental health class is no substitution for real MH intervention by licensed professionals in the field.

  • Robert keys

    Contrary to your belief reality is very popular. Cut to the chase. Could the officers have gotten injured in that situation, yeah. Were their lives in danger. That sounds like a stretch. If a 90 lb. kid with a screwdriver is a life threatening situation. They need to find a safer occupation or else they’ll wind up killing a lot of people.

  • bootlickin’ coward

    I think your point would be clearer if you randomly used all caps more. I know when I write long paragraphs of drivel INEXPLICABLE CAPS helps to emphasize how sincere my thoughts are. The important thing is THERE IS NO SCENARIO where law enforcement can be in the wrong.

  • The Police in this country have become a bunch of crazed thugs. Too often there are reports like this. Citizens NEED to start fighting back and perhaps when a few of them are executed we can bring some sense into their heads that we as patriotic citizens will not tolerate such outrageous actions

  • Jenn

    Oh yes, absolutely. The 100 lb, 5’5″ three kid with an electronics screwdriver was such a match for those cops after being tased. Fat boy Bryon Vassey had no other choice but to MURDER him in cold blood.

    Keith Vidal was dead in 70 seconds after this disgusting excuse for an officer arrived on the scene.

    What kind of drugs are you on? You are insane.

  • Gnat

    The story of Keith Vidal is now getting some much needed news coverage. I expect that coverage to continue and grow. I am reading through similar cases and I quote “the decision to charge a police officer with murder for actions taken while on duty is extremely rare” . Examples are numerous and continue that when charged, and after many years, courts and judges tend to find that regardless of the circumstances, that the actions of police officers involved in a shooting are justified. Officers are immune from prosecution based on the justifiable belief that their life was in danger and that the deceased actions posed a “risk of imminent death or serious bodily harm to the officer”. Officers lives are in danger because of the nature of their jobs. Justification in firing a service weapon in a perceived situation of self-defense, real or imagined, is a license to kill with no reasonable standard of accountability.

  • Peter

    Agreed I hope that Fat Demon Cop and all the other murderer scum in this world die the most miserable deaths possible they bring shame to the human race. As American Citizens we have a right to defend ourselves from an oppressive government that no longer serves justice. Don’t tread on me, we the people will rise!

  • anna

    The police had the kid RESTRAINED! The cop pulled out his gun while his buddies had the kid flat on his back and held down. Pulling out a gun claiming..’theres no time for this’? And then shooting an 18 year old RESTRAINED kid is acceptable for you??!! And the dad had to grab the cop from shooting his kid the 2nd time!

  • phil bishop

    It is amazing when you hear police shootings in the news, the victims are never injured, THEY DIE! Why could the police not shoot him in the leg, if at all. No, the officer went for the kill on a teenager with a screwdriver. This is murder and this pathetic excuse for an officer should be charged with murder!

  • uptown-guy

    “Their job is to protect the lives of the innocent including themselves.”

    The “lives of the innocent” includes the suspect, or in this case, victim, as well. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty in the court of law.

    Also, if you’re not a police officer, you ought to apply to become one. You ought to monetize your lack of empathy and intelligence.

  • Jay Semiu

    Whoever is the IDIOT Officer who shot a Mentally Ill 18 Year old Boy already subdued by two other intelligent officers should be put in Jail for life, at the very least. This IDIOT never deserved to wear a badge, much less carry a firearm!

    What an embarrassment and Black Eye to all of law enforcement all over America.

  • Molly

    I AGREE, ALL THESE OTHER COMMENTS ARE IGNORANT! That’s what’s really wrong with our society is ignorance like these comments!

  • Jack Torrance

    Everybody reading about this tragedy should look at this event in light of the bigger picture, a change happening across the country in the way law enforcement officers view the citizens they are supposed to be serving.
    Read about the latest news coming from the FBI, the largest law enforcement agency in the country: The FBI has quietly replaced “law enforcement” with “national security” as its declared primary function.

    That’s right folks: the FBI no longer considers itself a law enforcement agency, but rather a “national security” agency, a vague term that has been used by tyrrants for centuries to justify illegal activities and violation of the rights of citizens.

    Who in their right mind could doubt that this attitude shift has trickled down from the highest ‘police’ in the nation to the lower level local departments and their officers?

    I’m actually surpised that the uniformed killer in this case didn’t justify his murder by claiming ‘national security’ as his motive, but you will be reading about it in the very near future, coming from a town near you: “skinny mentally ill boy turns out to be a terrorist – the NSA provided damning evidence to the FBI showing his internet activity over the past 15 years – he was googling things like ‘false flag’ and ‘WTC building 7’ and ‘Bin Laden CIA’ that proves this without a doubt.”

    Nothing to see here folks. Move along. By the way, based on this recent change of purpose, the FBI will start violating the 4th amendment with impunity, using all your personal private data collected by NSA without warrant (bank information, emails, all internet browsing history, medical history, purchase history) to capture you and cart you off any time they want for things that you didn’t even know were felonies but which are commited by the average American every single day (check out the book ‘Three Felonies a Day’). They might even put you in Guantanamo and waterboard you, which is totally legal now under NDAA and the Patriot Act. The good news is, there is no longer any pretense for entrapment (remember the recent news that 99 percent of discovered ‘terrorist attack’ plans in the US are actually set up by the FBI?). The other side of this: these very police actions and attitudes that many are defending will target people indiscriminately, and will eventually come to haunt anyone who has approved of this unconstitutional overreach. Think about that the next time you hear a knock at your door (wait, nevermind: police have stopped following the ‘knock and talk’ or ‘knock and announce’ rule, so they will probably just bust in with full tactical gear when you least expect it).

  • Steve H

    @ down home – so instead of taking this man’s life and shooting him at point blank range, the fat officer couldn’t just shoot him in the arm that was holding the screwdriver so they didn’t have to feel as “threatened” even though there were already 2 other officers subduing the kid? You know that’s what’s wrong…it’s turned into shoot and kill and it’s no longer subdue the individual. It’s shoot now and ask questions later. You must be a cop or related to cops to have that mindset. Maybe officers need to be trained a little better to use their firearms. Or even better yet, how about hire intelligent people to become cops. We all know that the academy/union wont hire a person that is too smart only people that aren’t smart and just follow orders

  • jamie

    this situation is far to familiar to my family back in 2009 Waterford ct police shoot & kill my cousin which was also call in to calm the situation between him & his mother with the information that he had just sign himself out of a pond house in our situation my cousin had a knife but was also tase police claim they fire because he was coming at them but he was shoot in the back three time & rule a justify shooting deadly force was not needed in neither situation plus my aunt & cousin fiancé was remove from the home before the police took there action it sad that we must so fear the police & neighborhood watch nowadays between the still your ground law in some state & police shoot to kill I wondering what the difference between them & criminal nowadays a badge & gated community

  • guest, just another

    Holy cow Jamie!! PLEASE throw one or two pieces of punctuation in there!!! You’re coming off as crazy!

  • Typical

    He’ll probably just get involuntary manslaughter and serve less than a year if he’s charged at all. There’s no real punishment for those who abuse their weapons.

  • guest111

    I saw video last night on WWAY news. At that time I saw a tremendous black male standing around with what looked like a police uniform of some sort on. I am going to say this. That man could never catch a three year old much less a criminal. I don’t know who he is but his appearance is disgusting and shameful. How could anyone let their body get in that shape and who, in their right mind, would hire him as a law enforcement officer? He is obviously an extremely unhealthy man and couldn’t run 20 feet in front of him. Which ever office he works for, they need to take more pride in their position and make this elephant lose weight or replace him on the force. Or, better yet, lay him off till he loses about 250 pounds or more. I’m 64 and I promise you I could take him out! Disgraceful appearance.

  • Will Rogers

    “Looks like a good shoot” – that’s exactly why you don’t want the police anywhere near you. They are always looking for a good excuse to kill someone. There will always be authority-lovers like down-home-guy who will defend the police no matter what they do. That’s why your only real protection from the police is to stay away from them at all costs. Don’t ever, ever, ever call the police to your house.

  • Guest 2014

    Maybe if Vassey spent less time chasing skirts and with his hand around a bottle then he would have had time to attend classes on mental health. But then again how can you teach a man who already knows everything anything ?
    For years Vassey has abused his authority sadly this time a life was lost!

  • David

    This was uncalled for, I have a daughter that is mentally challenged and she has Bi-Polar and I know a lot of other people who are also, these individuals just want to be loved and treated with respect, they are not animals they are human beings whom GOD put on this earth for a very very special reason… I think the cop should lose his job for good if cops don’t have time to do their job and help people something they are hired to do and promised they would do when they took the oath then maybe they should pursue a new career… Not even safe to call for help anymore… what is this world coming to?

  • Richie

    Learn some some English and punctuation before you post you idjut!

  • Guest 104

    To the idiot who made the comment about one less check we have to pay now because he killed a mentally ill CHILD.
    Are you aware that the officer you are defending has a mentally family member that lives in his home who also suffers from schizophrenia? And guess what , she gets a check also.. So do you think he should shoot her too? I mean that would be even LESS checks that would have to be written right? He has no compassion for anyone including his own family member!
    If her check wasn’t lining his pockets she wouldn’t be there !


    So out of this unfortunate situation, this is what you noticed, that an officer was overweight? And that you could take him out? How bizarre.

  • Ted Michelakos

    As in so many cases cops get away with murder. Cases in point: Fullerton, Ca cops beat to death a mentally ill homeless man; Santa Rosa, Ca Iraq war vet cop murders 13 year old Andy Lopez while he was carrying a toy gun in broadlight; DC woman shot many times with her baby is in the car. This fatso cop murdered this ill man because he did not want to bend over to subdue him. Too much stress on his heart. He’ll get off just like all of the rest. It’s a scam, a sham and a shame.

  • Gnat
  • guest111

    Yes, I did notice the very large officer and you couldn’t miss him. I understand the meaning of this story. However, I have no influence either way with a decision of guilt or innocence of the police officers involved and neither do you. There are a gillion comments on this article and I have made one myself. I don’t have tunnel vision. When I see something I take in the whole picture and this man is so extremely out of shape I felt the need to comment. That okay with you? If not, I don’t know what to tell you.

  • Drew Mount

    that santa rosa killing was so sad. I was born there and used to play airsoft almost everyday as a kid. Some people really should not be alowed to be cops.. expecially anyone from the military whos done time in combat. You dont see worrior ants becoming workers.. aint right.

  • Its Me

    Law enforcement officers are trained to shoot center mass, not shoot to disable. Not saying I agree, just stating the facts. Most are taught to “double tap” so I am surprised there was only one shot fired.

  • chris

    Officers being “trained” to kill and not disable is an ignorant statement. You act as if they are drones only acting as they are “trained.” They are humans just as you and I are. They are capable of common sense and making judgement calls.
    Most police are they idiots who got bullied in high school and took they “job” to get “respect.” A mentally ill teenager who is clinically ill is only trying to protect themselves when put or feel in a violent situation. after being subdued he was prolly snaped back into reality and was scared. No matter what you say there is no justification to this officers actions. Not training and not mad at dunkin donuts nothing.

  • johnyv

    Never ever call the cops, never-less on one of your own family/kids… once cops arrive statistics state that your odds of being killed by those cops increase to the point that you were much better surviving before the cops were there.

    You call the cops, sadly you are than responsible for what every they do…. lesson shown over and over and over, cops are killing the very people who called for help and get away with it nearly every time.

    Call the cops, die at their hand. Take care of your own and keep the insane band of badges out of your life!

  • Johnyv

    Sadly, this is the norm with cops these days as the no longer fear losing their freedom or even their jobs once they murder people they suppose to help. Call the cops, you or yours have a very good chance of being murdered by them, FACT. Don’t cry afterwards because everyone should know this by now! No matter how many badge blowers say differently, the facts speak volumes over the last few years.

  • cntrybumkin

    To the family: Call the FBI. Hopefully the FBI will step in and investigate this disaster as a “color of law abuse” since the local agency appears unwilling and/or unable to do so.


  • jrex

    It’s worse than unfortunate that they are not trained to deal with this. This kind of situation should be the MAIN thing police are trained to handle effectively and calmly. Cooling off heated situations is the number one most important function of their job!! The fact that these cops had no clue how to handle it is proof that our law enforcement system is beyond ruined. Cops today are trained to tase and shoot, not to keep cool heads and control situations. Disgusting.

    And it sickens me to the bone that cops think their lives, even the surface of their hides, is more valuable than the lives of other human beings. Three of them probably couldn’t have been more than scratched by a screwdriver, but this young man’s life was taken from him – before his father’s eyes – because they could, maybe, have been mildly injured. They didn’t want to maybe get punched or scratched a little bit, so they murdered a person.

    I can’t imagine watching your own son be murdered right before your eyes. And over what amounted to basically nothing, because some ignorant, untrained cop couldn’t think of a better way to handle a kid with a screwdriver.

    Rest in peace, young man. I am so, so very sorry to the family. I just really cannot imagine what they’re going through.

  • Aaron

    Isn’t 3 officers enough to calm him down and restrain him without killing him? This is a 90 lb teenager, so was it really neccessary to shoot Keith Vidal in the chest? Yeah, he had a screwdriver, but a screwdriver will probably do less damage in the hands of this kid who was already tased twice, than a gun in the hands of a police officer.

  • Guest-o-matic

    If you have no experience in dealing with 90 lb. young men or women going through schizophrenic episodes, then get some. At that point, perhaps you won’t ask stupid questions and make erroneous assumptions that have no basis.

    Would you have even a hint of a clue as to why his 250 lb. parent wouldn’t attempt to subdue him and remove the “little screwdriver that couldn’t hurt anyone” and dispatched the the police via a distress 911 call to do it? The majority of opinionated psychiatrists posting on here don’t either. I do. Remember, the police had been dispatched to this residence nearly 40 occurrences. Does that indicate to you that maybe some problems were prevalent and not addressed?

    That’s “What the heck?”!

  • sick

    go to hell man. justifying shooting a 90lb kid with mental issues out of nowhere and killing him, in his home, infront of his parents after being partially subdued and controlled by other officers for a quarter of an hour already. shame on you. you are scum.

  • Mitchel

    This cop should be sentenced with the death penalty. But since it’s cops investigating cops he will get a pay raise and some kind of medal. It’s time we start making bad law enforcement pay the same price as the rest of us if we were to kill an unarmed person. I’m so disgusted with law enforcement I have instructed my own kids to run away from them and to never talk to them. 80% of them are just killers.

  • Ed

    Guest-0-matic is a dumb S, that’s what the heck. We have S holes like this all over our country now, they become cops because they’re weak dumb P O S scumbags and they windup killing people.

  • Vern Thompson

    And because of that Mr. Guest-o-matic thinks this boy deserved to die?? What the Heck?!

  • Ed

    Never ever call the police for help when a family member is having a mental breakdown of any kind. Unless you want them dead. Police these days are stupid and the only thing they know to do is kill when they are in doubt.

  • PublicAvenger

    Maybe Dad needs to take a close, honest, look in the mirror, on more then just obesity.

  • Gramps1945

    He’s calling the cop “fat”. When was the last time he looked in a mirror, or stepped on a scale ?

  • Becca

    THAT’S what you got out of this article…that the dad called the cop fat?!?! You are just as a pathetic excuse for a human being as that cop. A boy got shot and unjustly killed by a POLICE OFFICER who is SUPPOSED TO PROTECT US…and you jump on the fact that the father of this boy called the cop fat in his obvious rage that HIS SON GOT MURDERED BY A COP?!?! You are sick and pathetic, just like that cop.

  • Destiny

    That’s the biggest issue you have with this situation is that the dad called the officer fat?
    Well let’s just throw this dad in jail for being a bully!!
    He killed his son, I’m surprised that’s all he called him!

  • Eyes up

    A mini screwdriver is not a deadly weapon.. and a 98 lb child who was recently tazed and has two cops on top of him, is not a threat.

    Any officer who would claim they felt threatened is too much of a coward to be a cop. I’m a middle aged woman with health issues, and I’ve handled worse.

  • David

    It’s sad that the police were forced to kill the young man — however, he did have a deadly weapon in his hand and refused to put it down. Rules allow for shooting a person holding a knife, screwdriver, etc if they are within 21 feet of an officer and holding the weapon. I’m just thankful that these officers were able to return home safely to their loved ones ..

  • Becca

    THE POLICE WERE FORCED TO KILL HIM?!?! What the hell is wrong with you????? The cop MURDERED the boy. THREE COPS against ONE 90LB BOY who had a SCREWDRIVER in his hand. If they are not properly trained to handle that kind of a situation, I sure as hell do NOT want to be around when a more serious situation comes about. I’m sure those officers enjoyed getting to go home to their loved ones while this poor family mourns the loss of their 18 year old son. People like you and those cops are exactly what is wrong with our country.

  • deputy25

    where did you get the 21 feet ruler at?? there is no such rule/law!! tasers can go 15 to 35 feet normally. it is whether a person is close enough to cause someone to feel their life is in danger and feel threatened to that fact and the person is making’ forward progress/motion toward the officer.

  • Edieb5

    Did you even bother to read the story? I Googled it and read four versions. All agree that the first two cops came and calmed the boy, who just had a small screwdriver but was having a mental episode when the parents called police. It wasn’t until a third cop walked in, took over and told the first two to stop talking to the kid and tase him, which they both did, after the boy ran when he knew that he was going to be tased. Then those two jumped on top of the boy and were holding him down when the third cop said “We don’t have time for this and just shot the boy in the chest even though he had been tased and was restrained. This was First Degree Murder! I don’t know if you are a cop or a wannabe, but I have two police officers in my family, and they would agree. Don’t just shoot your mouth off as though you know everything about everything when you are just a jerk!

  • teod

    Can’t fault??? Are you out of your mind? A 90 pound mentally ill boy was shot and killed. At the very best this was gross incompetence.
    I personally believe the officer who pulled the trigger needs to be strapped down while the kids father pushes the needle at his lethal injection.

  • jj

    All you people complaining about the Police Officers, please take the time to go to school and become one. That way the standard you think is required to be one will be meet by you.

    The parents were scared of the boy and couldn’t do anything with him. You call the police to protect you and I am sorry for your lose, but you can’t fault the police for reacting. I am sure you would be complaining if they would have left and one of you would have been stabbed.

  • Jack Elmore

    The police in this country are out of control, and idiots like you excusing them for killing innocent people all over this country every day sickens me!! Being a police isn’t a “hard” job, nor does it take any intelligence to become one, though it should!! The cops in this country are being militarized and are nothing but thugs anymore!!

    I have little to no respect for 95% of the police these days, when the police start hiding their badges and wearing masks, something is very wrong in this country!! Just type in police misconduct/abuse in Google and start reading … this isn’t an isolated incident, it is happening in every state in this nation!! This country is two steps from being a police state, if it isn’t already … and idiots like you taking up for these scumbag cops deserve to be treated just like that poor boy!!

  • easysqueezy

    There is absolutely no excuse why in the world THREE police officers cannot contain an 18 year old with a screw driver! No excuses for killing him! They are trained to contain people! We call them to de-escalate a situation, contain a situation, not kill people! They do it because of society tries to justify it for keeping supposedly keeping the rest of us “safe”. Its a COP OUT. This does not make me feel safe, this makes me afraid that they cant control people without killing them. Maybe if it happened to your loved one, you would understand.

  • Sarah

    ANYONE can become a police officer. It’s not difficult. What is difficult is most people do not want to be legal murderers. Only those without a conscience become cops.

  • KD

    You’re a special kind of stupid, aren’t you? It’s nothing new that the USA is quickly turning in to a Police State, where the Police are protected from the law and can do anything they deem fit. The most they get is time off.

    Did you know that the USA wanted their officers to be exempt from all Canadian laws whenever they had to cross the border for an investigation? If you don’t know what that means, basically they would have free reign in Canada to do whatever they want without worry of breaking laws. They could murder, steal, walk in to any home of their choosing just on the basis of “This is for an investigation. If you get in our way we will use force.” There is no protecting the law and what’s good anymore. How can you read a story like this and still say they were in the right?

    The justice system is flawed, and always has been. It’s just getting worse with the greedy pocket fillers in the government.

  • Mr. Fine Dandy

    After forty calls to the same house!!

    Who could blame the Police.

  • Eyes Up

    Cops of that IQ are rare to non existence. Their career is the only one that has been allowed, via multiple court decisions, to discriminate against highIQ individuals in hiring and promotion.
    (and if any naysayers dispute this, I invite you to google it.)

  • Free2Choose

    Wow, an IQ above 80 and pass BLT is all you need to legally be judge, jury and executioner in BC. Public servants should at least have an IQ of 140 and not be loser looking for a secure job. This is sad, sad, sad!

  • francine

    Do you realize that roughly only 2.5% of the population has an IQ greater than or equal to 140?

  • guesty

    Bitter because you couldn’t meet those requirements to get into BLET?

  • ddunder

    This cop should be charged for murder and fellow officers reprimanded .
    A disgrace to the citizens when u are expecting them to protect u.
    A screw driver …come on wake up people.The law and politics have just got out of hand in the USA.Where are our rights.

  • Andrea75

    I see a problem. Three full grown adult cops. The young gentleman weighs 90 pounds. Cop number 3 is “fat” and they couldn’t end the situation peacefully without anyone getting killed? I think Fat Cop was angry because he was pulled off his secret rendezvous and I’m not talking about him being pulled from the dinner table, either. I hope the family of this young man will sue, sue, sue!!! Schizophrenics are strong, no doubt, but I’m sure BCSO deputies are trained to diffuse mental health crises. Why didn’t these backwood cops call BCSO to help them? And for Deputy 25 and the others backing him up, what would happen if that was your child? You will be like the rest of us, demanding justice and calling Nancy Grace.

  • Guest111

    If it is true they had tasered the kid e could not fight the police and to shot anyone who has been tased is wrong. Sounds like this fat cop needs to go. He doesn’t have the right attitude to be a cop. He was throwing his weight around (no pun intended) to come in the room and take over without getting the whole story and accessing the situation. I would say he needs to find other employment and I smell a lawsuit on the horizon.

  • Eyes Up

    None of those officers need other employment, they need imprisonment. If their superiors do nothing, they need to be charged as accomplices after the fact.

    I personally think we should petition the FBI to investigate. You can’t trust a department to investigate themselves.

  • mynameisyours

    Horrible….so sad…what kind of society do we live in? The police should be held to a higher standard…they should be college educated and paid better…there needs to be a task for specifically trained to help escort such individuals to a mental hospital… it is not this young man’s fault or the fault of his family that he suffered from mental illness…where is humanity????? We must stop turning our backs on our mentally ill, when the mentally ill react, it is only the normal who have the power to help them and in turn help our society…..to the family I am so sorry for your lost. Sincerely…A friend of the mentally ill.

  • PublicAvenger

    I think everyone needs to sit back, and let the SBI do their investigation. I’m interested in the truth, and the whole story, not unconfirmed sound bites.

  • in oct of 2013 I had a panic attack at about 6 pm was feeling suicidal at 1220 that night law enforcement came to check on me after telling them I’m fine and telling I have a firearm and they are trespassing and to step off porch so I could set it out being they showed up with guns drawn wellness check??? I put gun out then returned back into 1 room cabin after 10 minutes and no knock at door I went outside deputies where no where in site they had pulled away and regrouped 1 block away which property is heavily wooded I went outside without gun then returned to cabin dog started barking I tried to see down by shed she was at could not I then grabbed unloaded without a bolt action riffle started heading down toward the dog being loud in order to scare any possible intruder,i heard a sound I turned towards the sound then started hearing yelling police officers swarmed me from all sides it was them who got the dog barking,they had came back on foot over a block through wooded area I was charged with second degree assault with a deadly weapon on a police officer which is worse then a regular citizen kept in jail for 55 days without proper medication after having back surgery and not getting allowed to see Dr to get meds I plead guilty to charges on an alferd plea which is minnesotas no contest with conditions I would be released to seek medical attention, in dec 1992 while working for a security firm in a crash unit for the over ran mpls police department I encountered a young female swinging a knife around this girl was about 5’9″ 180 lbs I’m 5’7″ 170 at the time she was high on crack cocaine she had already cut 2 people I entered apt alone drew my service weapon got her attention,she turned towards me I holstered my weapon and disarmed her without further incident so anyone saying this in any way is justified belongs on the wrong side of a gun held by law enforcement you hold so dear I have noticed a lot of officers and deputies are way to trigger happy and thrive for conflict and are fresh from the military where they served in combat and most likely have ptsd and are nothing but bullies who can’t and wont be held responsible for there actions and there is nothing but dead end departments for making complaints and concerns about corrupt law enforcement

  • Ted

    I have a mentally handicapped brother and I can’t even imagine what this family is going through. A ttlement with no penalties and “no fault” would be more than offensive. It wouldn’t serve justice and it doesn’t protect citizens.
    When police commit crimes like murder, and this sounds very much like murder, they SHOULD be held to at least the same standard as the rest of us… personally, I think that if a cop commits a crime, any crime, while in uniform he or she should face DOUBLE the penalty that the rest of us face in similar circumstances.
    Why should taxpayers ever pay for the malfeasance and crimes of police? Why are unions, prosecutors and municiple officials allowed to circumvent the law by minimizing charges and not putting officers in jail immediately when they are suspected of a crime, just like the rest of us?????

  • Eyes Up

    1) There have been numerous court decisions in which it has been established that it is legal for police departments to discriminate against people with high IQ’s in hiring and promotion.
    (It is the ONLY profession in which this is the case)

    2) It takes more training to renew a hairdresser’s license than to become an officer of the law.

    Until we change this, things will continue to get worse

  • Mary

    I’m extremely curious to learn where you got your facts from, because they seem completely inaccurate to me. Where I’m from, everyone holds police officers in high regard and understands the rigorous amount of training and testing that occurs in their academy, not to mention the extensive background checks that come into play before someone can even be hired. Obviously on occasion assholes like this one slip through the cracks and it’s extremely unfortunate that someone’s life was taken because of an officer’s poor use of force. Regardless, your “facts” are insane.

    If you say you’re a hairdresser, let’s just forget the whole thing…

  • andy

    My wife’s friends son took the test for a cop in Las Vegas & was turned down because his IQ was too high (I’m a licensed beautician in NC but never worked at the trade).Cops protect their own–Leave? probably with pay!!!! and most likely he’ll be back on the force without any punishment at all!!! He’s a hero to his fellow cops…Most cops have a sadistic streak and not too swift mentally as well.That fat slob deserves to be punished by the law…if not, then by some means other than God.

  • burgerboy

    I feel sorry that the kid died and all but that old daddy of his should be ashamed for causing such a ruckus over this, you’re kid was obviously some mentally deranged fruitcake nutcase who was threatening his mothr and the father and no telling who else to the point where they had to call the polise, and if he was threatening the polise with a weapon then he deserved to get shot, mentally ill nutcase or not, i don’t care how small the weirdo kid was if some weirdo fruitcake kid comes stabbing at me with a screwdriver and i have a gun imma protect my self and blow him away, them polises did the right thing, too bad now the city is prolly gonna get sued by the kid’s weirdo libberal pappy but oh well

  • David

    OK, first of all its spelled “police” NOT “polise” and the fact that you spelled it wrong on 3 separate occasions leads me to believe you have a less than average IQ. Not without mentioning your ghetto “prolly” and “libberal” aka “liberal”. And seriously “imma”??? I would beat the crap out of a 90lb kid screwdriver or NOT! To say the use of deadly force was beyond uncalled for is an extreme understatement! What this comes down to plain and simple is the dad should have beat the crap out of him but because of today’s laws he cant! Thus you have to call the “POLICE” who in turn, use deadly force against a KID, whom should have been handled by his father with rights that were taken by the government. Loose, loose yes i feel bad for them.

  • Guest2020

    If you would actually look into the story instead of making rash decisions, you would know that the boy was not threatening anyone with the screwdriver. The parents called the police because they were worried that he would hurt himself. This was not their first call to police and the BSL officers knew how to handle the kid. The times they had responded before, they were able to calm him down by talking to him. The BSL officer and the deputy had him calm until the Southport officer showed up. He didn’t know the situation and busted in there with a mentality that was obviously detrimental to the situation and it appears that he is the one who did the shooting. There were also two other BSL officers at the scene.

    The Southport officer arrived fourteen minutes after the first officer arrived. Seventy seconds after his arrival the kids was dead. If anyone in this scenario was deranged it was the cop who would rather use excessive force rather than try to take the time to help deescalate the situation.

  • melissabeachgirl

    Burgerboy, I have a question for you. A question to better understand you. First how old are you? Have you personally taken classes on mental illness? Did you even go to school? Do you know that procedures are that in order to seak mental help and to be placed that the police must be called first, then the police take them to a local hospital for e-val before they take them to the Oaks hospital. I mean for someone who rants about everything please tell me what you know about this? I have a mentall ill parent, I unlike you have delt with the laws for the last 30 years. I think you Burgeryboy need a stary at the Oaks day camp for some help. Ive seen many of your posts and you need meds and meetings.

  • David

    This is to all you Imperialistic Police States of America loving people who believe that this is okay…….This will someday soon be you or someone you love, wife-child-mother-father-dog-sister-brother-whomever, just remember that when this does and it will happen you were all for it. These Nazi cops and the Government that employs and guides them are going to be at your front door randomly knocking to demand your ID or proof of belonging in America. They will be aiming their guns at you and your family. They will most likely kill your dog. They will be coming with assault rifles and Police dogs. There will be no talking your pathetic way out of it. You think you are safe. from who are you safe from? The Constitution of America and the Bill of Rights gave us the power of voting, guns and the right to freedom. All you pacifists have determined that we don’t need to take care of ourselves because the Police and Government will. Well fools this is the way they take of things. With death and tyranny. This is going to get sooooo much worse.

  • Ari

    For inpatient care at a psychiatric facility, it is proper procedure in Brunswick County (and most of North Carolina) to be admitted to the ER first. At that point, after doing an intake, they await for an available bed at a state-funded facility. If (for whatever reason) this person is unable to be transported by loved ones, 911 should be called. This is no different than any other disease/ailment. Please think before your statements are made as you are disrespecting the unjust death of a young boy and a mourning family.

  • Jenna

    In my opinion, that cop shouldn’t have put that kid down like that. It’s awful, killing the kid because he “didn’t have time for this and needed to protect his cops?”. You’ve got to be kidding me, if the cops killed every person that has a mental illness and decides to go into a episode, we would be solving nothing. Poor kid, show some respect for the family. How would any of you like your child put down by what you believe is your “protectors”.

  • concerned parent


  • Eyes Up

    Anybody who would taunt the family of the deceased on a newsboard in their local area… are pure soulless scum.

  • J

    I think you mean ‘lose lose’ but good job making such a fundamental error in a post where you correct someone else’s spelling. As for thinking it’s acceptable to beat someone who’s mentally ill (or anyone else for that matter), I really hope you don’t have children.

  • Eyes Up

    Fact: It takes more training to get a hairdressers license than to become a cop.

    When you take the averages from all the states on the minimum hours of training legally required to be a Hairdresser is 850.
    For cops its 650 with some states requiring as little as 300.

    Fact: Police departments DO turn down applicants for having a high

    Federal courts ruled police departments CAN discriminate against applicants for being intelligent. It is the ONLY job in the nation where an employer can discriminate on that basis.

    It’s pretty strong to call someone’s facts “delusional” simply because you are too stupid and/or lazy to use a basic search engine.


    I’m not sure what the purpose of your post was other than to deamean another’s chosen profession, in order to please your need to be better than everyone else. Why else would you post these facts, even if they were true (they may be who knows).

    The facts presented at face value may be true. Maybe a hairdresser does have more hours of training than a cop on the street. But what you dont address is the content of that training. Please research and elaborate on that fact. PLease tell me what type of training is necessary for each profession, instead of the number of hours. We all need to know, becuase it is a fact you so blatantly wanted us to know.

    Its true that a department (New London) successfully denied a candidate employment because he scored too high on an IQ test. The reasoning behind the decision was the department was afraid that higher IQ individuals would get bored with police work and leave, after a large investment was made by the department in his training, uniforms, equipment, etc. Its a common problem with most departments….people leaving shortly after being hired because it was not what they expected. Its very costly. Maybe thats why departments are trying to create formulas to find the perfect cop. Not sure if thats the right approach. Generally an extensive background investigation is conducted to better identify some character traits that are more suited toward law enforcement such as compassion, reliabilty, perserverence, courage, good relations with all types of people, adaptability, etc. These traits cannot be measured by an intelligence test. The fact you presented is really useless, but it further strengthens my opionion (OPINION not FACT)that you only wrote it to elevate yourself to a new level of pompousness (is that a word…I dunno I’m not that smart).

  • Guest-o-matic

    Sarah, get real here! The only ones without a conscience are the criminals! You know the Anti-Social psychopaths that don’t care about anyone but themselves? I can bet that you have a very extensive criminal record and have had multiple arrests and convictions, thus your bitter disdain for any authority (Note: This is also one of the prime attributes for the sociopathic/psychopathic mentality).

    Sorry, but with all of the criminals and mental cases allowed to mix in with law-abiding citizens, the police are needed. Now, I’d venture even further to estimate that you didn’t even achieve a high school diploma. And YOU state that ANYONE can be a police officer? It has alway been a severe challenge for a criminal to like or appreciate law enforcement of any sort. You fit that bill perfectly…

  • Jane-Vein

    I thought this comment was sarcastic at first, and then I realized that this commenter is exactly the kind of person who will be calling the Gestapo on their neighbors in a few years, mark my words. When everyone asks how the third Reich happened and about the complicity of the German people, it is this kind of mentality from this commenter: labeling people criminals before they have been proven so in a court of law, and seeing the sheep, the government’s flock as divided into ‘us’ and ‘them’. When it’s all over and Russia and China come to liberate us, you will be treated as the sympathizers were after the second world war.

  • Concerned

    Your ASSumptions of this person you never met, or know anything about, makes you look like the a$$!! Leave people alone and get a life!!!!

  • Jenn

    You believe that anyone who thinks the police shouldn’t be allowed to murder randomly at will are sociopathic criminals?

    Murdering without remorse because he doesn’t “have time” then lying about it.. that’s perfectly normal behavior in your eyes I guess.

  • melissabeachgirl

    thank you guest2020, Burgerboy gets to me everytime he posts, i believe him to be uneasy. I think the guy is 12

  • jj

    KD Stupid is as Stupid does. Not sure where you got your information from on what you posted, but you like many people don’t get your information correct.

    You are are partly right the US did ask that the officers of the U.S. Customs and Border Protection be exempt under Canadian laws or the jurisdiction of the ordinary courts in Canada and be tried in the US.

    Also, Canada hasasked “Any new model must be fully reciprocal, providing Canadian police with the same protections in the United States as granted to U.S. law enforcement officials working in Canada, adds the RCMP briefing note.”

    So, get your facts straight.

  • burgerboy

    im 31, never took a class on nutcases, and did went to school. lol i think i remember you commenting on that brian burger story that time and tellin me about your crazy old mama. oh well take it easy :DDD


    Intelligence has never been a gauge of ones ability to deal with the public in both non-risk and high-risk situations. Characteristics such as honesty, reliability, perserverence, adaptability (to different cultures and changing situations), compassion, etc are much better guides. Some of these present themselves during an extensive background, some present later in training, and some never present at all (sure bad cops are hired every day). I know a lot of intelligent people who should never work with the public, ever. They lack the social skills to do so. And good lord I dare say there are not many people with an IQ of 145 around period. I’d love to see the numbers. I think your post was meant to be more of a slam than a piece of imporant information that could actually help us though.


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