New report says film study wrong, NC loses money on incentives


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Submitted: Tue, 04/08/2014 - 3:57am
Updated: Tue, 04/08/2014 - 2:42pm
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WILMINGTON, NC (WWAY) — A report by legislative staff says a recently-released study of the film industry in North Carolina is wrong about the state benefiting from tax incentives for movie and TV productions.

In the memo “Preliminary Review of Handfield Film Study” requested by Rep. Rick Catlin, a New Hanover County Republican, the General Assembly’s Fiscal Research Division (FRD) concludes that Dr. Robert Hanfield’s report that the Film Product Credit’s net contribution to the state is positive “is based on a series of misunderstandings of the (s)tate’s tax laws, invalid or overstated assumptions, and errors in accounting. Our analysis, which corrects for the most obvious errors in the Handfield report, shows that the Film Production Credit creates a negative return on investment.”

“I stand by my study,” said Handfield.

Film industry proponents pointed to the results of the Handfield study, commissioned by the film industry and film commissions across the state, as proof of the positive value of industry to North Carolina.

“They look at things through a certain lens, just different from the one I am looking at,” said Handfield.

The Handfield report found that the industry has a net contribution of $25.3 million. The study also found the industry is responsible for 4,259 jobs with an average wage of $66,000.

“I’m not against the film industry, but we need to have a program that show a positive return on investment,” Catlin said. “Based on Fiscal Research, we have to make some changes and compromises.”

The FRD analysis, though, says the fiscal impact is a net loss of at least $33.1 million. The authors of the FRD report say they have not received from Handfield “satisfactory responses” to explain his methodology and assumptions.

“The bottom line is just to look into the facts and trying to find a process that works for everybody,” said Catlin.

55 Comments

  • guest6366 says:

    you could say that about ANY industry Frank. What it comes down to is state sponsored support and subsidies of one industry over another not matter how well intentioned they may be. What about print artists? Why not give them subsidies for their spaces and travel and other expenses? Maybe they’ll have shows and draw people from all over the world to spend money in Wilmington. Why not the boat industry? People will come from all over the country to buy boats here because they are spectactularly made and cheaply sold thanks to tax incentives in NC. You could go on and on. My industry could use a couple of freebies too. For all of the supposed positives of the movie industry our residents suffer through closed public facilities and rerouted streets an we pay them for the privilege for movies many of us have zero interest in seeing. :/

  • Jon Fitz says:

    Just wow. I work in LA and have worked with many actors. Most are Extremely arrogant, but this is staggering. Please be sarcasm for the love of god. What does any of what you’re saying have to do with Film subsidies anyway?

  • Faye Burckhalter says:

    I wish that they would hire more local people then bringing in people from out of state…. When you get incentives for something you should use local workers and talent/// Love that the movies and shows are filmed here and I know the areas on the movies and shows….. Keep the Film here but use LOCAL first..

  • Truth doctor says:

    “In essence, by including the spending of spouses, the Handfield report overstates the tax revenue associated with film workers’ consumer spending by 50%.”

    Hard to imagine anyone would believe there are 4,600 people making $66,000 per year each. Hard to imagine there are any more than 800 resident North Carolinians whose primary income is generated from working on films.

    Most money earning a tax rebate is spent on outside Equipment and materials from outside NC. To qualify the check has to be written to a NC company. The loophole is a pass thru company registered in NC that receives a couple of percent of the actual cost. It may look on paper that a local vendor received a check for $100,000 but in reality because of the loophole, it’s only $1,000-2,000. Handfield would have you believe the entire $100,000 stays here. It’s a scam.

  • Leigh Anne says:

    You are absolutely right! We should encourage all of your above industries and more to bring their money to our community! Is your detour really such an inconvenience that you would pass on the increased revenue for New Hanover County? We could really benefit from more of everything.

  • Joshjenkins says:

    WHO stands to gain when/if the film industry abandons NC?

    GEORGIA.

    Who gets money from GEORGIA? Pat McCrory.

    http://michaelplumides.wordpress.com/2013/12/04/governor-pat-mccrory-and-chick-fil-a-conspire-to-send-north-carolina-jobs-to-georgia/

  • mynameismud says:

    Okay – Show and Tell. I have in my mind five $20 dollar bills. You don’t have to do a thing to earn it – here, I’m handing it over – BUT – there’s one condition, I’m going to take one of the $20’s back, leaving you the other $80. A show of hands – who’s interested in that deal?

  • Vog46 says:

    first and foremost – you people totally misrepresent the true sutaion here.
    If a film company spends $100 they get 25% back or $25.
    The state does NOT get the other $75.
    The company is SPENDING money and the state is giving back based upon SPENDING – not taxation.
    So rethink this.
    They spend $100. State takes in 5% (average between income tax and sales tax) the STATE gets $5 but pays out $25 !!!

    Think about this. If you spend $100 at Home Depot how much does HD get to keep as profit? 95%? Yeah right.
    HD pays its suppliers pays the gubmint and everyone else in between but keeps about 4 – 6% as PROFIT. Most of the money goes back to their suppliers.
    Please tell me you folks aren’t that dumb.

    If the incentive were a rebate of TAXES PAID then I’ve got no problem with it – but it is not. Its a rebate based upon money spent – these are very separate things here.
    The state TAXES film spending at 5% but pays out at 25%.
    Get it?

    Good grief

    Vog

  • Kelly says:

    If there are two surveys with such a wide margin of difference, someone reputable, if there is such a person, or someone with nothing to gain, again, if there is such a person, should arrange for an independent survey of the actual facts. I also would like to agree with the comments regarding Duke Energy. That company is such a scammer, holding a monopoly on the people. How many tax breaks does that bazillion dollar company get each year. As my Grandma would say, it’s a scandal and a shame, the way these companies are run and the weight that they put on society. But why punish those are people who benefit from the film incentives. Money is being made, businesses are keeping their doors open. Just let it be, I would rather my tax dollars go to that than into Pat McCrory’s pockets, i.e., Duke Energy

  • C'mon Man says:

    It all boils down to one thing, 100% of 0 is still 0. Anyway you slice this thing the state should be concerned with keeping the money coming in, 75% of anything makes better sense than nothing! Would you rather have something coming in, or nothing?? Rest assured that without incentives the films will go elsewhere.

    This is similar to the idiot school board out in Greensboro suing over fines from red light cameras. The income was smaller, but it was steady and had no end in sight. Then a greedy administrator said, “I think we should be getting more and we should sue to get it!” Well a dumb judge who can’t recognize the spirit of the law awarded them a good one time payday and every town (except Wilmington, we the taxpayers fund them here) took down their cameras the next day. Nice one time payout, but a loss overall as now there is no steady income. My mother was a school administrator and laughed at the irony of intelligent people making such stupid decisions!

    I feel that this film incentive issue is just a repeat of that situation. The films will no longer come here when then can go elsewhere and save money. Lets not try to oversell ourselves here, NC does not offer enough to demand full price when everyone offers the same product/landscape/etc at much better prices. I don’t buy Cheerios at Harris Teeter when I can pay a dollar less per box at Walmart!

  • Grant Hall says:

    If you do away with the incentives, the film industry will cease operations in NC. They’ll move to one of the many other states that are BEGGING for their money, and that are willing to pay incentives to get it.
    The notion that the state is somehow LOSING money is simply ridiculous and more than a little irrational. You can’t lose what you never had. It’s a REBATE, not an upfront payment – you know, like the ones we keep giving to places like GE.

    For those who say the movie industry really isn’t buying local, you have no clue what you’re talking about. Call all your local construction and building supply stores and ask them if the studios spend much money with them. I can tell you they’ve spent millions with local businesses in the last few years on construction supplies alone. In fact, they go out of their way to buy as much as they can from local businesses. That’s money being spent at businesses that have been hit extremely hard by the collapsed real estate market.I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say the film industry has been the one thing that has kept several local businesses from going under.
    There are a lot of local people working at the studios now making damned good money, who would otherwise have had to move away for work or who would have had to take some low paying job to get by – quite possibly leaving behind yet another foreclosed home.

  • Albert Blackshaw says:

    That’s not completely true. Yes some business is done through pass through companies, but those are legislated by the state and completely legal. In their minds, pass thru companies create local jobs too. But by far most of the money that is spent on a production is local, because most of that money is spent in the form of local salaries. Under the Dome, for example, has a crew of about 150. About 10 of those, not counting the cast, are from out of town. But even the cast, when working here, pays state taxes.

    That said, I think pass thru companies are probably going to be dropped from the updated changes when the new incentive package is legislated. That will cause a few businesses to open satellite offices here and be liable for state taxes as such.

    If we were to do away with the sunset altogether though, you would see an influx of permanent support services – grip and electric rental houses, truck rental houses, post-production facilities, prop rental houses, film vehicle rental houses, camera rental houses, expendable supply houses, etc – that would completely negate any “cost” of the incentives through their tax exposure. And they would create hundreds if not thousands of real, full-time jobs. Folks don’t realize that the sunset on the incentives is the biggest deterrent to the growth of real, permanent film-related infrastructure across the state. Charlotte is ripe for a film studio. So is Asheville. Even Wilmington could use another facility as Screen Gems often can’t accommodate all the work that wants to come here. And none of those businesses or the jobs they create would receive incentives. But none of that growth will happen if the loming threat of the evaporation of film incentives threatens the loss of their livelihood.

  • jj says:

    I find this “The study also found the industry is responsible for 4,259 jobs with an average wage of $66,000. ” hard to believe. Unless the average is based on the Star’s salary.

    I can’t believe we give tax credits to companies that make Billions. Yes, I am sure you will bring up GE and others in the area, but they provide full time jobs to many more that the movie industry.

  • Vog46 says:

    Is not being kind:

    http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/display_exclusive.html?id=10955

    That said – this is exactly what the film industry DIDN’T need just before the vote.
    Catlin was right to call for the study. Film industry supporters are going apoplectic over it (to be expected) but hey cannot give ANY independent analysis of their own to refute the state study because there is none. There is ONLY MPAA funded studies to support their erroneous conclusions.

    Vog

  • ChefnSurf says:

    Even though Vog46’s post, down the page a bit, explains incentive accounting in really simple terms, some of you just don’t get it and apparently never will. Perhaps following the motive behind the two reports might prove helpful.

    Film industry report: This one is pretty simple to explain. Tinsletown wants even greater profits and isn’t afraid of putting out a biased report to extort it.

    General Assembly’s Fiscal Research Division report: There isn’t a politician on the planet, good or bad, from either party, who would turn down an increased revenue stream into a government coffer. The more money they have to play with, the greater their chances of manipulating some of that revenue into helping themselves get re-elected. That’s just the way most politicians are and we all know that. That leaves only one motive behind the FRD report: As much as all of the politicians would like the money, it just isn’t there. The State is coming out on the short end of the stick. That being the case, a few of the more politically or financially savvy politicos are simply being prudent enough to tell the truth, not because they’re great people, but because it just makes sense to do so.

    When you compare motives, it comes down to only two; greed versus prudence. When it comes down to choosing how my taxpayer dollars are spent, I think I’ll opt for prudence.

    C’mon people, it aint exactly rocket science.

  • Frank says:

    Maybe if the politicians would stop lining their pockets and stop being over paid they will show a prophet

  • Ryan S says:

    As an actor, production designer and set decorator employed by many major motion picture companies I find it disingenuous to suggest that my importance and value to this city and state is limited to the amount of money I pay in taxes. Life is more than taxes. It is a warm beach, clubs and bars, attractive and entertaining people who actually project a far more appealing place to live and vacation than the red neck culture clinging to its last piece of swamp meat. We, those who have come to this area to build a culture of tolerance and enlightenment, are the new industry, the ones buying your homes, influencing your family to a real world in which shame is an evaporated glass full of scotch.

    Yes I make twice the money you do sitting in your donut shop between ghetto round ups. You are the help. You’re not the ones with the brains who have evolved and found a job like mine. Yes I work hard. I wake up at six and work late, sometimes don’t even have time to stop for a good meal before the restaurant closes and I’m forced to eat pub food.

    Look, there are differences between the thems and us. Differences that have value you can measure unless you know us and what we bring to this area.

    Peace my brothers.

  • Frank says:

    Listening to some of the blogs makes me laugh, i am a actor just moved to wilmington from Los Angeles, now im not a super star but i work. People talk about how much money a movie loses, that has nothing to do with what it brings to NC, jobs is what it brings, the restaurants benefit, shops,hair salons,dry cleaners everyone, you take away the movies and shows people in filming industry will have to go where the work is , Atlanta, SC, LA and rest of southern states. The hosing market will open up and businesses will suffer. Now i like it here in NC i’m closer to my family and friends i like the weather, but you close the filming industry down i’ll just go where the work is, so thats pretty much how it works in a nutshell somebody’s gonna get their money why not NC

  • amasset says:

    Man..this guy is an ahole of the 1st order. I am fromL.A. with over 40 years in the ‘Biz’ as both actor/writer/Director. I appreciate ( as most of us do) all who help us in our work. It is a fleeting and sporadic life and every person in it knows that. To demean anyone as to their station in life and work is pathetic and reprehensible. This jerkoff has no class or guts.. i even doubt his proclaimed work history. Pay no mind to mindless idiots who have to elevate their worthless lives by demeaning others…

  • BRGuest says:

    Wow, that’s a mighty arrogant attitude you have to go along with your obvious inflated sense of self worth. You say you work in the movies, so therefore you’re more evolved? Get over yourself, brother.

  • 8844 says:

    Can’t figure out if you’re using sarcasm or just trolling but it’s got to be one of them ’cause this is too stupid to be real.

  • SayWha? says:

    They already have a chaplain.

  • Guest1971 says:

    Thank you for the clearest explanation ever of how these incentives work.

  • SurfCityTom says:

    some in fact are that dumb and do not have a clue as to how business math works.

    Others, like Johnny, have a very intense interest in keeping the flow coming. Let it stop and Johnny might have to enter the real job market.

    They made Raw Deal, Firestarter, Last of the Mohicans, and Sleeping with the Enemy plus Dawson’s Creek all without special incentives.

    It can be done.

    The Governor is trying to balance a state budget and pay back hundreds of millions of borrowed Fed dollars.

    The teachers want more; oh and leave tenure alone so weak teachers who fail in the classroom do not have to worry about job security.

    And NEVER, will these film advocates put forth a simple to understand report to back up their position. They can’nt; their position is full of holes.

    Heck, Johnny is such a force in the industry, he is not included when the powers that be make their annual trek to Hollywood to beat the drum for business. He was excluded this year, 2014. Bev excluded him when she went out and frolicked with Arnold and Maria before she withdrew from public life.

  • Vog46 says:

    You said:
    “some in fact are that dumb and do not have a clue as to how business math works.”

    So if the Legislature continues incentives then you would call them clueless?
    Just joking of course but after seeing the contentious debates in the SC and GA legislatures they then turned around and continued with incentives (OKlahoma did so as well recently).
    There is a growing consensus nationwide that film incentives are not economically viable and are un-necessary.
    WE shall see

    Vog

  • Guest Reply Redux says:

    …Justin Bieber (Thah Beebs) won’t make it to Wilmington now?
    It seems to me that for 66 Grand (per) for salaries…a film Corporation is going to hire (or import) experienced technical help for their particular expertise…and Wilmington was shown to have more Secretarial jobs/Travel Agent jobs in their 100 Grand report.
    That ain’t Key Grip/Best Boy/Sound/Light Director/etc. material…or is it?
    “Hurray for Hollywood”

  • Jmahoney says:

    So much for needing my support. If you represent the people my support in order to enable you to be the way you are then let me know if you need help packing.

  • Leigh Anne says:

    Please don’t forget that UNCW has an incredible film program that educates students to sufficiently enter a career in the industry. From grip work, sound, editing, the University has one of the best programs in the country. How perfect is it for New Hanover County to encourage recent graduates to enter their field without having to leave the county (with their wages and taxes), to earn a living while paying their education debts. It isn’t necessary to be so cynical.

  • Christopher Johnson says:

    I see you didn’t put your real name on your comment. My brother works in the film industry in North Carolina for over 25 years. Our state gives incentives to all kinds of companies to move to our state like Metlife, Federal Express, and Google. The money the film industry brings to our state is incalculable.

  • My right to vote never seemed so important…

  • Rick Wilson says:

    The film Industry abuses the unemployment system. The film industry uses its employees as hostages to negotiate incentive deals. They put out false/misleading statements of return on investment and employment figures. It is time to end the handouts and let them stand on their own, or go away. When everyone comes to their senses, this form of corporate welfare will end. It is a shameful use of tax payer money that forces all tax payers to supplement an industry that has survived before incentives and can survive again without them.

  • Albert Blackshaw says:

    Duke Energy earned $9billion in revenues last year and paid no corporate income taxes. In fact, they received back $300million in the firm of a subsidy.

    International Paper made almost $3 billion in profits over the past year, but paid $74 million in taxes — effectively a tax rate of just 2.6 percent.

    Merck represents another type of corporate tax avoidance: the ability to keep profits earned in the U.S. and abroad in offshore bank accounts, in turn sheltering large portions of their profits from U.S. taxation. The company made $20.3 billion in profits over the last five years, while paying just $3.5 billion in taxes. They stashed another $22 billion in offshore accounts that escaped taxation altogether.

    There are much bigger abusers of the tax system if you really want to point a finger.

    The film incentive creates jobs in NC with money brought in from out of state. Rick Caitlin has a fundamental issue with film incentives. I wouldn’t expect him to agree with the study on any basis.

  • Chonky Cho Cho says:

    The film industry will indeed survive without film incentives. It just won’t be in NC because other states aren’t dumb enough to give theirs up.

    Do you think Georgia and Louisiana would continue to put 3-5x more into their incentive programs than NC does if they lost money on them?

    Lift the sunset and allow permanent infrastructure and support sector services to grow and you will see the rebate hedged to zero, if it isn’t already.

  • Film Jobs says:

    Even if you provide Rick with the numbers he still will not understand basic math. The most important number is 4000 jobs that will be lost and a ton in his district. Good luck on getting re-elected!

  • ChefnSurf says:

    Nice trick (sarcasm here). You must think everyone, except yourself of course, is brain dead. Let me see if I have this right: Just keep repeating the mantra of “4000 jobs” and the actual money loss to NC taxpayers will magically disappear.

    To misquote another cereal commercial: That’s “magically delicious” (but totally unpalatable to anyone who can count to at least five, even if they have to use their fingers).

    Perhaps you should stop worrying about other people comprehending basic math and worry about yourself comprehending the basics of reality.

  • HollywoodlawnCemetery says:

    The nerve of Hollywood to ask for tax incentives!

    Tinsel Town has always had a reputation for arrogance and greed. No business is more brazen and corrupt than the film industry. Ever heard of “Hollywood Accounting”?

    Hollywood accounting refers to the opaque accounting methods used by the film, video and television industry to budget and record profits for film projects.
    Expenditures can be inflated to reduce or eliminate the reported profit of the project, thereby reducing the amount which the corporation must pay in royalties or other profit-sharing agreements, as these are based on the net profit.

    Just . . .Say . . .No . . .to . . .Film . . .Incentives!

  • Vog46 says:

    The only jobs that will be lost will be those that move out. NC had jobs BEFORE incentives and they will have them after they are gone. The Film Industry itself says that many top ten cities for filming are in states that have no incentives.
    Saying that 4,000 jobs will be lost is disingenuous and a scare tactic not based in fact.

    Vog

  • David Beavis says:

    In reply to some of our friends who are not in favor of film incentives, ( full confession I have worked in the film business for 47 years and never held another job) The so called film incentives were invented by individual American states to help stop the incentive system that was run by the Canadian Government to get films to go to Canada, starting about 15 years or so ago. Also, the American film business was fighting against cheap production costs in Eastern Europe that relied solely on very low wages. The Australian got in on the act about a decade ago using tax refund methods and very cheap land as their persuasive method.
    North Carolina’s method of trying to defend an established industry that has been here for 25 years of so is to offer a rebate. It is not an incentive. In very simple figures for every $100 a production spends here, we give them $25 back. It is a very simple balancing act. Without the $25 to them, we don’t get to keep the $75.

  • Brian says:

    So, let’s call it what it is: Extortion on the part of the Corporation paid out in a bribe by taxpayers. In effect, taxpayers are helping to finance every production that uses tax “incentives” therefore shouldn’t taxpayers also be profit partners in box office revenue?

  • What? says:

    If two studies are assessing economic impact of a given industry within our state and the results indicate a disparity in excess of $58 million, I suggest someone’s capabilities may not be worth their weight in #2 pencils.

  • NCTVMOVIEJOBS says:

    Keep in mind, this critique is by the same legislative staffer who claimed last time that the film industry spent $221 million in North Carolina one year and created only 55 jobs. Seriously. That’s ridiculous on its face. Why should we believe him this time?

  • Jon Fitz says:

    The study which reported a huge economic boon for the State was commissioned by the MPAA. They are entirely comprised of Billion dollar companies like paramount, universal, sony, warner brothers, etc. These are the people which benefit from your tax dollars, not the State of NC. Every single state that has attempted this incentive, has lost money doing so.

  • SurfCityTom says:

    sees the light of day. And this report clearly backs up the opponents to the extension of the tax credits.

    Wonder how Johnny will try to circumnavigate this land mine? If he’s smart, he’s putting out resumes; but I doubt he could survive in the private sector.

    Where’s Bev when the truth comes out about her job stimulus ideas?

  • Sheila Brothers says:

    I’m sorry. Where are you from again?

  • SnarkmeisterGeneral says:

    Sheila, unfortunately you are trying to introduce facts to folks whose heads would explode when faced with them. I support film incentives along with you. Sadly the idiots who have taken over our village think otherwise. Mark Twain said it well; that we shouldn’t argue with stupid people, that they’d drag you down to their level and defeat you with experience.

  • beach guy says:

    Here’s a suggestion, stop the incentives for a year and see what happens then you will see the good the bad and the ugly.
    North Carolina still has lower business and corporate taxes and wage levels than California or Canada. I know we have better weather than the latter
    it is not like the industry will not come back if we are wrong and need to start the incentives again
    then you would have a base line to start from.

  • Shaun ORourke says:

    Great job to point out that every industry is incentivized. The film industry is an easy target to hate on while companies like Duke power get huge kick back a and pollute out drinking water.

  • Rick Wilson says:

    You state, “There are much bigger abusers of the tax system if you really want to point a finger.” I have no way to verify your claim, but I will point out that none of the other businesses you list regularly lay off their employees. Also, the 4000 job claim………extras should not be used as job statistics, especially the way the movie industry does it. An “extra” that is used for 30 days is one job for 30 days not 30 jobs for 1 day. None of these people come close to your $60,000.00(+ or -) per year salary. If you want your reports to be taken seriously……list each verifiable job with what it pays and add how much unemployment benefits each job draws per year. Your windfall spending needs to be backed up with receipts. None of the reports commissioned by the movie industry could be used in a court of law without perjury charges being filed. The other downside is by nature the filming of movies, TV shows,etc. are disruptive where they are filmed. Most people are willing to overlook this, but they do stop the normal flow in areas they are filming……

  • Vog46 says:

    Duke is using tax law to get tax breaks while providing a necessity to life.
    The film industry is seeking a government hand out for entertainment that is not needed.
    Besides that Duke and Duke employees are here year round. No on is incentivizing Duke.
    but lets be fair. Lets give the film industry what we gave fortron for spending $50M here.Lets give the film industry 1% instead of 25%.

    Fair enough?
    Lets give the film industry what we “give” Duke – pay no corporate taxes. Fair enough? That way payroll and sales taxes roll into the state with NOTHING going out of state coffers.
    Fair enough?

    Vog

  • Albert Blackshaw says:

    If you look closesly at Handfield’s study, you’ll realize extras were not included in the study. This was an effort to estimate the impact of full time workers in the film industry on the local and state economy. The 4,000 jobs are crew positions only.

    No one in the film industry wants to be on unemployment. That’s the whole point of this. Eliminate the sunset on incentives, increase the number of job opportunities and the numbers of those having to take unemployment benefits will likewise drop.

    Film jobs are no more temporary than construction jobs for example. As long as you have another house to build, you will go on to the next one. But remember, the average film crew worker works 60 hours a week minimum. So effectively they do the hours of a 12 month, 40 hour a week “full time” employee in just 8 months. If you don’t think film crews work full time, come on over and watch them work 12-13 hours a day 5-6 days a week, week after week.

  • Chonku Cho Cho says:

    Rick,

    Most vendors in areas where shows shoot see their presence as anything but a disruption. First of all if a show comes even close to disrupting the normal flow of or access to a business, they are compensated for that inconvenience, often to the tune of more $$ than they would make without the show there.

    Secondly filming, particularly in public areas, brings in people who want to watch the process, who then shop, eat, buy coffee, etc in the surrounding shops. Sure there may be a little traffic back up now and again but that is watched closely by the officers who are paid to do traffic control and they do not allow the stops to be too long of for traffic to be held usually for more than 2 minutes at a time.

    And by the way, those officers work in their off time to do traffic control and are paid more per hour than they are paid by their respectiver departments. We also compensate the city for gas used in vehicles and pay the city a service fee for setting up the service.

  • Rick Wilson says:

    So if they are layed off after 8 months……….they do not sign up for unemployment because they have already made a years salary? I am not against the film industry……I am against them using jobs as hostages and incentives as ransom. There are plenty of other people that work long hours whose companies do not receive incentives…….and their tax dollars go to those that do.

  • Rick Wilson says:

    As I stated, most people are willing to overlook the inconvenience……but you just talk to the people present at the locations, you do not get to talk to those who avoid the area. The paying of the personnel and buying fuel does not cover wear and tear of public vehicles. And…once again these are your (film industries) statistics. If you were to provide receipts to back them up…….but for some reason this is NEVER DONE. The bottom line is other industries and their employees should not be forced to subsidize your industry by the government. The only fair subsidy is one that benefits all who pay……NOT ONE THAT BENEFITS A FEW paid for by everybody else. I like the fact that the film industry is basically a clean industry, I just hate they are a member of The Billionaires Beggar Club and feel entitled to forced supplementation of their business.

  • Don s says:

    Your piece of the pie is the boost in our economy from film spending. A movie comes into town they stay in a hotel or rent a home, rent a car, shop for groceries and necessities, shop for clothing, eat dinner out, bring in their family, spend money site seeing, purchase gas. Spread the word about lovely NC. On the set – hire local employees, rent equipment, rent prop cars, purchase gas, purchase office supplies, purchase food & drinks, rent office space, buy furniture for office space, rent locations, hire local extras, purchase props and clothing. You have NO idea!!!!

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