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Goolsby pushing Wilmington request to crack down on illegal guns

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WILMINGTON, NC (WWAY) -- State lawmakers are trying to crack down on criminals who carry illegally concealed weapons. One state senator says the changes are thanks in part to suggestions from our area.

The idea is to make criminals think twice before carrying concealed weapons illegally.

Sen. Thom Goolsby (R-9th District) made the announcement about the possible changes on Twitter today. The legislation, if approved, would make carrying an illegally concealed weapon a higher class of felony or misdemeanor.

Goolsby says the idea here is to show, as he put it, "gangbangers" that illegal weapons are not tolerated in our cities. He says it's a move both the Wilmington Police chief and members of Wilmington City Council asked for.

"'Cause they keep finding gangbangers with concealed guns. What this allows us to do is put people in jail for the first offence of carrying a concealed weapon illegally," Goolsby said in a phone interview from Raleigh this afternoon.

Goolsby made clear, though, he is a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, and this bill would only impact non-law-abiding citizens.

If approved, the harsher punishments would go into effect Dec. 1.

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easy solution

Implement Project Exile here where the criminal will have to do a minimum of 5 years in federal prison.

Wow, Thom "Moron" Goolsby

Wow, Thom "Moron" Goolsby speaks of tougher laws and penalties for "gangbangers" but what about tougher laws and penalties for "white collar crimes and criminals" that steal people's hard earned savings. Thom... why don't you just shut it and go away. I hope you end up in prison with some of these gangbangers you speak of.

illegal guns

As a legal gun owner I fully support legislation to lock up these chronic felons caught in possession of a firearm the first time especially those that have gang affiliations. As in a gang banger gets caught with a gun you go to prison for at least a year.
If you pull a dogs teeth he can't bite you.

By the way if you think Goolsby is a criminal go to the magistrates office and file charges instead of slinging mud as a democrat troll.

This guy has done exactly what he campaigned on and was elected to do by the majority of voters so get over it.

How about laws against fast

How about laws against fast talking lawyers, who screw people out of their life savings, through investment con jobs.

Thom I am really ashamed of

Thom I am really ashamed of the way you are turning out, at one time you were a good rep, now you are grasping at straws, what makes you think a person with a concealed weapon is a "GANGBANGER"????????????,, Quiet possibly it could be a soccer mom that just forgot to remove it from her pocketbook entering a bank, now you want her to be a felon, TSA has shown over the years the guns they have confiscated were simply people that had forgotten to remove them from their everyday luggage, so Thom, as a once big supporter of yours I am glad you are climbing back under the rock you came out from under, you are a piece of work.

Gangbanger????????

If a soccer mom has a gun in her purse she would need a concealed handgun permit carrying a concealed weapon without one is a felony.

if you have gang affiliation you would be considered a gang banger

And any idiot that "forgets" where a gun is needs to have it taken away from them especially if you are going to an airport.
I own several and I can tell you exactly where everyone of them is at any time day or night it is called being responsible.

This bill is about increasing the punishment of a person that is already a felon committing another felony to try and convince these idiots that it is just not worth it to carry a illegal gun.
Not about gun rights but gun wrongs supported by two democrats whom lead our law enforcement community

and to gramps he did not bilk anyone he was just as convinced this guy knew what he was doing as everyone else. The licensed investor made some investments he was not supposed to do his clients sued him the case is settled, the state removed the investors license no one lost their "life savings"
If they were investing their life savings in that type of risky investment there is going to be losses associated with the risk.

beach guy, you are 1 of 2

beach guy, you are 1 of 2 things, either living in a bubble, or an idiot, either way, it's the same thing, keep rambling

Guest 45

When confronted with facts liberals always resort to name calling next thing you know G45 will call me a racist.

How can you know more than the state that investigated it and bar association that investigated it? If you have any evidence contrary to the states findings please come forward. If they both found that Goolsby did nothing wrong who are you to say different? Was he fined or disbarred? or charged with anything? I have not seen or read of it being reported. Please enlighten the rest of us, let us bask in your all knowing radiance that you can somehow know more than the folks that actually investigated it.
You just make snarky statements with nothing to back them up.

Hey Beach Guy or Naive One

Hey Beach Guy or Naive One might I call you, I agree you must live in a bubble if you think the higher ups are not crooked. Just remember RC Soles never did any wrong...or did he? According to investigators, he did not. NAIVE

As I have stated before,

As I have stated before, mandatory jail time for the possession, threatened use of, actual discharging, and injury of a victim with a firearm in the commission of a crime with that sentence separate and prior to the beginning of any other sentence and no plea bargaining.

crook

Who cares what this crook has to say. He is an embarrassment to out city and if he had any idea of right and wrong, he would resign his office.

A classsic case of misdirection

One can only assume that Goolsby's lip service to cracking down on the unobtainable is merely an attempt to misdirect the public from thinking about cracking down harder on fraudulent investment advisors.

re: A classic case of....

Thom wasn't an investment advisor, but President of Empowered Investor. While technically not an advisor, his association with the firm led people to believe he was.

You are 100% correct sir !

"Technically" he was not.

Well I care.. Regardless

Well I care.. Regardless what else he may or may not have done at least this makes sense. How many stories do we read here where the charges include "possession of firearm by felon", "concealed weapon", etc etc? It's not the LEGAL firearms owners causing the majority of problems but the illegals; no it probably won't make them think twice, but if twice the time served maybe they'll be off the streets a bit longer. Don't need a tax increase to house them either; just release those on most marijuana charges or other non-violent offenses to make room.

Get Serious Thom

there's only 1 cure. Put a hollow point in them if they pull a weapon.

Anything less is a joke.

Do you really think a "harsher felony charge" will cause the drug dealers and gandbangers to turn in weapons or leave them at home?

If you're not going to allow the aforementioned cure, then significantly increase the sentence; set the bond at levels which most of them will have difficulty posting; eliminate plea bargains; and make them serve the entire sentence.

Oh, and if they are under 18 let Mom or Dad, if he can be identified, share a cell and the sentence with their beloved offspring.

Ouch

"Oh, and if they are under 18 let Mom or Dad, if he can be identified, share a cell and the sentence with their beloved offspring."

I wonder how many politicians THAT would affect?
That won't fly.

I do agree that harsher sentences would be appropriate here - so long as the judicial system does NOT allow early release. I am prepared to pay higher taxes for larger prisons to house the larger inmate population - the question is - will everyone else feel that way as well?

Vog

Vog, this has been said before.

Higher taxes are NOT required to fund longer prison sentences, more prisons or personnel. Restructure what the prisoners do, how they do it and when they do it. Our mamby-pamby, societal PC culture is afraid of change, but here's the solution.

1. Model prisons and personnel after what the ones that exist Bolivia and Mexico.

2. All able bodied prisoners will perform hard labor for 14 hours a day breaking rock, forging steel, farming, livestock handling and any other duties neccessary to build/maintain prisons. The easier jobs go to those earned as a privalege.

3. Eliminate all workout areas. Their 14 hour a day job will be their workout.

4. Eliminate all TV and any other exterior entertainment. Their 14 hour a day job will also serve as their entertainment.

5. Eliminate access to education above the high school level and legal libraries. I didn't get to go to prison to get my education, I worked hard and had to pay for it.

6. Firm "3 strikes, you're out" policy. 3 felonies is plenty of proof of an individuals intent among society.

7. 10 years means 10 years...period. No "good behavior" horse-hooie. You can't do the time, don't do the crime. ZERO early releases!

8. 2 final and I do mean "FINAL" appeals for death penalty convictions. You have a two year maximum time frame to get those appeals through, otherwise get your arm ready for the prick of the needle. This 15 to 20 year process is rediculous and a total joke in the face of justice and the victims.

In short order, criminals will begin to think twice before becoming a criminal again because they simply will not want to go back and the crime rate will shrink. Those that are incapable of learning this remain there for the rest of their natural lives and have no place in a functioning, law-abiding society anyway. This restructuring will also serve as a major "life restructuring course" to convince the criminals, "you really, really never want to come back here!".

What we have doesn't work. It doesn't work financially, it doesn't work legally, it does not teach the criminals anything except it's easy and profitable to do it over and over again. And most importantly, it completely fails to protect law abiding society from the violence of career criminals.

"You do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always gotten!" It's time for a big change if anyone expects better results!

G-o-m

Even a cursory reading of your post shows that more prisons will be needed.
"6. Firm "3 strikes, you're out" policy. 3 felonies is plenty of proof of an individuals intent among society.":
Yep I agree with the punishment but that will require more prison space.

"7. 10 years means 10 years...period. No "good behavior" horse-hooie. You can't do the time, don't do the crime. ZERO early releases!"
Couldn't agree with you more however keeping them in while adding the 3 strikes crowd requires? More prison space !!!

" 2 final and I do mean "FINAL" appeals for death penalty convictions. You have a two year maximum time frame to get those appeals through, otherwise get your arm ready for the prick of the needle. This 15 to 20 year process is rediculous and a total joke in the face of justice and the victims"
There are so few prisoners on death row they'd hardly make a difference if they were all executed immediately.
Nice rhetoric but hardly steeped in fact.
What you are proposing would cause prison populations to increase - not decrease and no matter which way you slice it and dice it that would require more prisons.
I don't disagree with the thought process here - just the ramifications of that process

Vog

Other than #5 I'll agree;

Other than #5 I'll agree; why not try to learn something while there? Maybe wasted on most, but on the few that actually have a chance of rehabilitation if it's there and available by all means do it. Even if you have no hope of getting out it is still expanding the mind; could even be passed down to their children to keep them out of trouble. "Hey Son I've been reading about bridge engineering, it seems cool and you like building stuff maybe you should look at that" or similar.

One extra "Solution"

As in Some Latin American Countries... Those in Prison have to have their families/relative(s) support them, eg: FOOD or essentials, (soap, Hygiene items), for them on LIVE in Prison, Or IF the state has to feed them, let it be from one Big pot of GRUEL. Nutritious enough just enough to keep them from "starving" but with-in the Legal definition of getting enough of the BASIC food groups....

I like the way you think

no doubt the liberal, bleeding hearts will not; too bad.

why not use public hanging as the means for execution? Let 1 of the gangbangers or tough guys walk up the stairs to the gallow. That might turn a few of them onto the straight and narrow.

You two

Frick and Frack, Stan and Ollie, Tom and G-o-mer. If you guys weren't so stupid with those antediluvian ideas that you have I would think you were a comedy team.
What about the guys that have been found innocent after 15 or 20 years on death row? Just say "Oops" and and "I'm Sorry"?
Tom, why don't you take another trip to Raleigh on your fish wagon and then let us know you went there again instead of clogging up this site with your stupidity.

Such insightful comments

but no solution to the problem? Why is that? Unable to think?

Well EBT was reloaded today; go forth and enjoy.

sc thom

So what about death row people or are you incapable of answering a direct question like most teabaggers?

Direct Answer

accidents happen. and when freed, they get paid large sums of money.

On the other hand, current forsenics and lab capabilities have failed to cause an overturn of a conviction handed down in the past 5 years.

So you don't like this approach.

Have yet to hear you belch forth a solution; all you seem to do is spout off. Perhaps a better id would be Beached Whale.

liar

Tell that lie to Greg Taylor or Lamonte Armstrong. You need to quit making stuff up and to stop acting like Karl Rove and your idols on Fox News(?). Why do you have to lie? Are you being paid by someone to lie in this forum?

Where's the lie?

you said it; now put up.

Are you being paid by the film industry to troll after anything I post?

If success determines your compensation, you fail.

no

I am not being paid. You're just such a jerk that I enjoy it