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WILMINGTON, NC (WWAY) -- New voting rules will be in effect this November. That's the word today from a federal judge who denied a motion seeking to hold the election under old rules until a trial next year.

"I vote every time.” Susan Bailey said. “I think it is a duty. I think it's a responsibility to vote and everybody should.”

But some people around the Port City say these new laws might make it harder for everybody to vote.

Early voting is shortened, voters are now required to show photo ID, and say goodbye to registering on Election Day.

"The photo ID may be difficult for some of the poor people that don't have a photo ID,” Bailey said. “They may find it difficult to get one."

But supporters, like war veteran William Janning, say the new photo ID law keeps elections honest.

"I think everybody should have the right to vote, but I think people that abuse that right, that should be stopped,” Janning said.

He says requiring photo IDs will help.

And though some complain these laws will make it harder for the disabled, or elderly to cast their ballots, Janning says that is not the case.

In fact, he says that is one of the biggest improvements to the state's voting system.

"One of the real improvements in recent years is the ability for the older people and handicap people to get in. You don't even have to get out of the car anymore. They will bring the voting equipment, whatever it happens to be, right to your car,” Janning explained.

Susan Bailey says these regulations are no different than how voting used to be. She says early voting used to be used only for extreme circumstances, like a soldier oversees. But now she says anyone can do it for any reason.

She feels the new laws will keep this from happening.

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Voting

I watch people cash check from age up to 100 daily, all have ID's, this is all a Democrat ploy to allow cheating at the polls.

What a lie

What a lie "The photo ID may be difficult for some of the poor people that don't have a photo ID,” Bailey said. “They may find it difficult to get one."

Please stop the lying.

Have you gone to a doctor lately? Photo ID is require. To get food stamps you have to have a photo ID. To get Medicare you have to have Photo ID. To cash a check you have to an ID. To drive a car you have to have an ID.

So, if you think this is difficult for the poor, you are lying to yourself.

I see nothing wrong with proving who you are to vote. I would think everyone would want to keep abuse from tinting their vote.

No lie

A driver's license is a priviledge license.
Voting is a right.
Cashing checks, getting medicare, driving a car, none of this has anything at all with voting.

What is wrong with proving

What is wrong with proving that you have that right to vote?

'Voting is a right'

if you're a citizen ! ! !

You left out the part where

You left out the part where they can get an ID from the DMV at the taxpayers' expense.

From the 1st time I voted

From the 1st time I voted (1980) I always thought it rather odd I did't need to show an ID; just show up with a valid name and address of someone on the voter roll. Could it *possibly* put a small burden on certain segments of the population? Yes it could, but those people should and DO need ID as well for other essential functions in life. The cashiers and tellers at your local establishments know you well and no problem, but what happens when they move on to another job, retire or whatever?

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

In Florida alone, it's estimated there are 180,000 plus illegal voters.
That translates into about 1.65% of Fla 11 million voters. The following
stats suggest that figure may be much higher.

In 2005, the U.S. Government Accountability Office found that
up to 3 PERCENT of the 30,000 individuals called for jury duty
from VOTER REGISTRATION ROLLS OVER A TWO-YEAR PERIOD
in just ONE U.S. district court were NOT U.S. citizens.

While that may not seem like many, just 3 percent of registered
voters would have been more than enough to provide the winning
presiden­tial vote margin in Florida in 2000.

Citizenship is and should be a basic requirement for voting.

Every vote cast by a non-citizen, whether an illegal alien or
a resident alien legally in the country, dilutes or cancels
the vote of a citizen and thus disenfranchises him or her. To
dismiss such stolen votes debases one of the most important
rights of citizens.

ID?? No problem, but...

I have no problem showing my ID to vote. The issues with this bill are with all the other provisions they snuck through. Reducing early voting days and hours. Ending the Motor Voter program which gave 16 year olds the opportunity to pre-register to vote and be eligible on the day they turned 18. Threatening the loss of tax credit if your college student registered to vote where they attend college. Voter fraud was just an excuse to get the Repubican base fired up about a bill that makes it harder for actual registered voters to cast a ballot. With that being said, I'm going to laugh like heck at the first tea-partier that shows up on the news complaining that he/she was not allowed to vote because the address on their ID didn't match the address on the voter rolls.

The Rev. Bully Barber...

and his Moral Monday minions are no doubt ticked off after this ruling.

Photo IDs are as close as

Photo IDs are as close as the driver's license office. This is not a legitimate excuse for such cards to be difficult to obtain. As for keeping elections honest, this went the way of the dinosaur when computer voting came into the picture. There is no paper trail and no accountability to prove a true winner. All we have is the "word" of the officials..............very comforting.

Personally, I feel elections should revert to how they were conducted years ago. You registered, and used paper ballots that you marked yourself with an "X". Also you voted on election day, and only one day. Millions found it possible to get to the polls to cast their votes. The only exception was absentee ballots for American soldiers and some others who were out of the country at the time of the election.

Jim Crow alive and well

Claiming these new restrictions on voting will cut "rampant" fraud are absurd. How many cases have there been?

THIRTY-ONE out of a billion ballots cast!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/08/06/a-comprehensi...

They don't want anyone poor, minority, or a student to have access and this is how they think they can do it.

Remember in November.

You're living in a bubble,

You're living in a bubble, it just keeps a lot of fraud out of voting, over 2 million fraudulent Democrat votes in 2012 national election.

Numbers

How about telling us exactly where you got that information so we can all look at it.

Thirty-One that has been

Thirty-One that has been caught. There is more you can bet.
You have to have an ID for just about everything. That should also pertain to one of the most important things in our Country.... voting.

The poor, minority, and student have to show some form of ID when applying for benefits and school I would think.
Or maybe I should ask DSS how my tax dollars are given to a person who can't prove who they are then? You think?

voting

Anyone, regardless of what country they are from, can get an NC driver's license with a passport and a utility bill. Having a DL proves nothing.

Guestman...

Having a drivers license proves nothing? Are you kidding me? It is a privilege license in which the State of North Carolina allows you to operate a several thousand pound piece of machinery at a high rate of speed.

Get real guestman. Just because you don't value the privilege doesn't others don't.

Glad this law was passed. Time for folks to pony up and be responsible for their actions.

Sheriff.........I think you

Sheriff.........I think you might want to re-read the story as well as the comments. Nobody has said a thing about a drivers license as related to operation a motor vehicle.

Voting

IS a RIGHT bestowed upon us by our forefathers through our Constitution. There were NO photo ID's then - no social security numbers and no "board of elections".
This voting right was for rich and poor, males, and Whites only - at the time. Think about THAT or a second.....white males only. Are we going back to that? Are we going to take away that right that women worked so hard to get? That blacks did as well?
Is this the same slippery slope that second amendment advocates say we'd be going down with a national gun registry? funny how some folks want to protect SOME rights but not others. Is getting a photo ID a burden? Nope - but I am of the opinion that ANY restriction put in the process of voting is wrong. There is no widespread fraud and hasn't been for years and the fraud that did happen seemed to center around absentee ballots where photo IDs are NOT required.
Anything that impedes voting is wrong IMHO, and we have enough of that with both parties gerrymandering voting districts.
Besides that a federal judge through out PA's voter ID law (which NC's is patterned after) and I fully expect this one to get tossed too but after this next election.......

Vog

In the beginning it was the

In the beginning it was the landowners who had the right to vote. Do you think they were allowed to vote without proving that they were landowners? Voter ID does not restrict the vote for people who legally have the right to vote. It just proves that they have that right.

That was in a time when

That was in a time when 99.99% of people were honest and had character, now it's win at all cost, Obama help set the example for habitual lying and dishonesty.

Vog, you don't stand for much...

...in this United States of America. You views are weak, have very little basis and display you as a weak, wavering and somewhat trembling citizen that just goes the way of the typical sheep.

What we have is a different world these days. It is nothing like the days founded by our forefathers, they didn't have 12 to 15 MILLION illegal aliens to deal with. We had actual "citizens" in this country that immigrated by the "immigration laws". We had leaders in this country that cared for the people, cared for their country and its freedoms. We do not have that anymore, we have politicians that care only about themselves and their personal agendas. They sway voters by offering things that particular sector may need. "More welfare for the needy!" so they buy the entitlement suckers (and keep them there for generations rather than helping them get on their feet!). "Immigration reform. Amnesty to all!!!" So they buy the hispanic vote. "10 dollar an hour raises for fast food workers", so they buy those votes.

It's simply a different world now and new needs exist to keep what little honesty we have left in the voting process. Nobody gets chided with these new requirements except the cheaters. Our country is chock full of weak kneed stumblers like you that sit on the fence and always fall on the side stuffed with foam.

You seem to forget

that we were ALL immigrants when this country was founded.
They all came from England.
Funny how historical facts are lost on some people.
Yes unfortunately things have changed however, I do NOT agree that going backwards on voting requirement is the answer. That does not make me weak nor trembling.
So if we are to require a picture ID, and a public record, for voting then can we also require a picture ID (currently required) and a public record for gun ownership? I am a gun owner and have no problem with a gun registry.
Look - I am all for enforcement of voting laws bu the conviction record for voting fraud does not, at the current time justify. And to say "hey there's one so there's got to be more" is not a factual argument to make because there is no proof of that, and from what I've read the majority of cases of voting fraud are with absentee ballots which require no picture ID to cast. So on what are we basing this law on? Perception? Fear?
It makes no sense to me. Put some teeth into the existing law and ENFORCE the darned thing. If we see that fraud is an issue and can possibly change some elections then I will be all for making voting actually harder. Until then I would venture to say YOU are the one showing fear.
The problem I have is that our Legislature is passing laws that will probably be struck down as other states have shown, with the latest being PA's. Is it judicial activism driving this overturning of laws? Perhaps, but it is the system we have to deal with.
As I stated, rich WASP's set this law in place and then we constantly amended the constitution giving voting rights to others - Native Americans, Blacks (former slaves) and women. Are we going down a slippery slope here that I do not wish to go down.
Voting should be easy to encourage participation by all legally registered voters.
Or do we want it to be easy for just all registered GOP voters? C'mon just say it........

Vog

Sorry, but he's right.

You do seem to waver on the important points. For goodness sake, what does a voter ID have anything to do with a gun registry? The voter ID is simply to ensure that the voter is he he states he is. This is what we do when we rent a car, buy alcohol, purchase an airline ticket, board an airliner, cash a check and rent a hotel room and guess what, to purchase a firearm (just to name a few...).
A gun registry? What does that accomplish? Well, it gives the government information on how to seize your weapons when they decide to do that. It is also a list that can be hacked by criminals to identify who has what so they can steal it from you. You attempt to make apples and oranges form your point. Not working...
This country is nothing BUT immigrants, not only from England, but from all over the world. We did it LEGALLY as bound by the laws and became citizens, we didn't just walk across a border and say "Thank you, but I badly need healthcare, lots of food, a house, an Escalade to drive and medication for my parents and children. I need you to give all of this to me because I have no money and haven't paid into your system. I won't be paying any taxes either." In the early days of America, we needed immigrants. We do not need them today.
This is a pretty basic, elementary thought for you to capture. Voting should be easy and it is. There is nothing at all "hard" about getting a valid I.D. and there's nothing wrong with having to present it just as we do with so many other daily tasks we perform. Guestofferson has a point, you're mushier than a pot of watered down mashed potatoes.

If I presented

the info to vote at the board of elections why should I then have to get a photo ID to vote at the polls?
From the NC board of electino sweb page:

To register to vote and vote in a North Carolina county, a person must meet the following qualifications:

Must be a U.S. citizen.
Must be a resident of the county, and prior to voting in an election, must have resided at his or her residential address for at least 30 days prior to the date of the election.
Must be at least 18 years old or will be 18 by the date of the next general election.
Must not be serving a sentence for a felony conviction (including probation or on parole). If previously convicted of a felony, the person’s citizenship rights must be restored. Citizenship and voting rights are automatically restored upon completion of the sentence. No special document is needed.
Must rescind any previous registration in another county or state.
Must provide their North Carolina driver license number OR the last four digits of their Social Security number
********************************************************
The OR emphasis was mine.
So why? Why if I can register to vote WITHOUT and ID currently do I have to present one now.
No one has provided proof that voter fraud exists in numbers that would justify making it harder.

C'mon, say it - you need to make it easier for the GOP to maintain control..
or at the very least make it harder for the Dems to win the positions back.

A little honesty would be REALLY refreshing here............
I currently do not have to produce ANYTHING to my bank to cash a check except swipe a debit card through a reader. When I opened my account I DID provide photo ID but I could have alternately provided Soc Sec and utility bills and I never have to provide and ID to cash a check.
I do not need to provide a photo ID to get a new car loan. They ran my credit and then offered me the FULL $27K.
EVERYTHING here revolves around the Soc Security number NOT the photo ID and its been that way for years - thats why Soc Sec is the alternative to photo IDs.
And yes I did provided a photo ID for getting my permit and YES there is a correlation because my voting registration is public record and HAS to be so that fraud can be prevented. A national gun registry can do a lot of good with tracking stolen guns. Yes criminals will get them no matter what but thats NOT the point. If my voting registration is public knowledge so should my gun ownership if BOTH are requiring such a high standard of "proof", and both are administered by PUBLIC servants serving the government.
I am registered unaffiliated but both DEMs and REpubs alike use voting laws and gerrymander districts as if they are some sort of holy grail of fraud - yet voting fraud is so minimal its laughable.
Again, a little self honesty would go a long way here. DEMS ran this state for a 100 years and there was nary a peep about voter fraud, or ID's - now its the holy grail of "honesty".
REALLY????????????????
AGain - admit it - you wish to maintain control.......

Vog

Let's say I showed my ID

Let's say I showed my ID when I went to the Board of Elections to vote. What's to keep someone else from showing up to the polls and using my name and giving my address and voting? Nothing.

Last year, after my daughter turned eighteen, she went down to the Board of Elections to register to vote. They did not check her ID. When my husband and I filled out our change of address requests, they did not check our IDs.

How does presenting an ID make it harder to vote? Is it that difficult to reach into your pocket and take out your wallet?

Every time I take a check to the bank, I have to provide an ID if I want cash back. My husband and I have had to present an ID every time we bought a car. I worked for my uncle for a while at his car lot and everyone who got a loan had to present an ID. They also had to present an ID if they wanted to take the car for a test drive.

I disagree with a national gun registry. It serves no purpose other than to allow the government to know who the gun owners are. It opens the door for the government to infringe on the right to vote. The only way it can affect stolen guns is to be able to track a gun back to its legal owner once the gun has been used in a crime or seized by the government.

Voter ID laws are not a matter of controlling the elections for one party or the other. It is a matter of maintaining integrity of the elections themselves. Without the voter ID laws anyone can show up to any precinct and as long as they have a name to match an address in that precinct, then they can vote. NC is providing IDs at no charge to the person seeking an ID, so there is no hardship there. Since every citizen is able to obtain an ID, then there is no restriction to voting for citizens and there is no infringement on anyone's right to vote. There is absolutely nothing wrong with me proving that I have the legal right to vote.

Vog, you're straying again.

Answer to your first question: Because we want to see proof that you are who you claim you are. Anyone with half a brain can recite a name and an address, it get's more complex when you have to match an ID to it.

You say voter fraud is minimal? There are many that disagree. Our country is being absolutely FLOODED with illegal aliens. Our federal government cannot seem to stop it, restrict it, slow it or even understand it. The "citizens" must have some safeguards in place. Would you like to see Senior Julio Benitez as the next president? I'm thinking you would push for English being the second language of this country.

A firearms registry does not and cannot "track" stolen weapons. They can only be discovered as stolen "after the fact" that they are discovered which is usually after a crime. No help there, only a record for control. You have some severe confusion going on with gun registers vs. a voter ID! You had best do some clear thinking in a dark closet before wishing for something so asinine! You actually WANT you firearms ownership to be public record? Are you freakin' serious? You would be better of by drawing a huge red and white target with a bullseye on the back of every shirt you possess, each side of your car and on each and every entrance to your home!

What I want is honesty, integrity and the ability for authorized, legal citizens of this country to have their voice heard through the voting process, all others OUT!!! A requirement to have a valid identification does not inhibit that and improves the accuracy of the numbers. THAT, dear Vog is all that I need to admit!

Voter fraud

Seems like in the recent past vote fraud was discovered after the fact as well eh? In Florida several illegals cast votes but NONE were convicted because they did so without malice - they actually thought voting was a requirement!! Theres a NOVEL idea - make it mandatory - especially for getting government handouts (the majority of which are given to legal folks)
Actual convictions for voter fraud are so few and far between it does not justify this law which I believe will be overturned by the courts.
Do I personally believe presenting an ID is hard? Not for me, but in this great land of ours that poor person with no means of transportation has the same voting right as I do and his/her vote counts as much as mine and BOTH of us should vote in every election.

"Would you like to see Senior Julio Benitez as the next president?"
If he is legal and represents my ideas well then yes I'd vote for him
By 2020 whites will be a minority.
And by the way thanks for validating my thought that this is a last gasp effort by WASPS to retain power. Your statement above PROVES my point.

Vog

Seriously, Vog. What a

Seriously, Vog. What a stupid argument. Proving your identity leads to disallowing women to vote? These arguments are pathetic and reveal you as another pseudo-intellect. Did showing ones DL to board planes lead to women being kept off planes? Does showing ones DL to test drive a car for sale lead to minorities not buying cars? Please respond.

Please

Show where the Constitution states you have the right to vote. In those words... Nope not there.