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Bladen County standoff has deadly end

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It's not how these things are supposed to end. The standoff started at mid-morning off Center Road near Butler Mill Road. The sheriff says an agitated 63-year-old Thomas Adams ran his wife out of the house. She ran to a neighbor's house and called police while he holed up inside with at least one gun. Steve Ludlum tried to talk his brother-in-law out to no avail. Police continued to gather and tighten the perimeter. The State Bureau of Investigation Special Response Team moved in. Ludlam says police made him leave; "They said once they got the perimeter secured they'd come back and get me to get the negotiators in to negotiate with him. The next I heard about ten minutes later, everything broke loose. They shot him down like a dog." Bladen County Sheriff Stephen Bunn says officers had no choice but to open fire on Thomas Adams. "Around five o'clock he came out of the house with a gun. Officers in the woods tried to negotiate with him but instead he shot in the direction and they returned fire, striking him. He was transported to southeastern general hospital." Family members were understandably upset with the fatal outcome. Ludlam says it could have been prevented. "He's not been on his medication for about a week. They just went overboard today. All this was unnecessary." Its handling will be investigated. Crime scene techs started working the area shortly after the standoff had ended.

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You Know.. maybe they should

You Know.. maybe they should release the 911 tape and THAT WAY.. EVERYONE can shut their pie holes!

standoff

I WANT TO SAY TO THE FAMILY; I AM TRUELY SORRY FOR YOUR LOSE. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT KIND OF MAN HE WAS, EXCEPT FOR A FATHER, BROTHER, HUSBAND, SON OF SOMEONE. FOR A UNKNOWN REASON THAT ALL CHANGED. WE WILL PROBABLY NEVER KNOW. JUST KNOW IN YOUR HEART THE MAN HE WAS BEFORE THIS INCIDENT. LOOK DEEP INSIDE AND TRY TO KEEP THE HATE OF YOUR BODY AND MIND AGAINST THE PEOPLE WHO THINK THIS WAS OK. THERE ARE SO MANY REASONS FOR THIS KIND OF ACTION, BUT WE WILL NEVER KNOW. ONLY THE GODS KNOW THE TRUTH. ALL MY LOVE, HOPES AND PRAYERS TO YOU.

sad

These situations always end badly if the cops are called. Why cant the cops around here learn to take down a person w/o killing him?? Can that be done? Apparently cops need to learn from mistakes but I guess they have to right to shoot w/o being worried about the consequence. Sorry to read about this type of situation again.

Das

What exactly do you suggest an officer do when he is being shot at???

WilmMan

You sound like you know it all and have it all figured out. You have the answer to everything, don't you? BRAVO,*round of applause* on such a great job! May God continue to bless you and keep you and your family safe. And pray that you're never put in a situation similiar to this where you, have people like you, that just don't know when to shut their mouth. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!! You obviously love the attention. And we are stooping to your level by responding to your remarks, which is exactly what you want!

WM

Take down the subject w/o killing him, like hit the elbow, foot, hand. Gotta be something else.

No one shoots to wound

It totally undermines the legal justification to use deadly force and invites an indictment. "How much could you have really felt threatened if you took the time to aim and shoot him in the leg?" Most departments now subscribe to the age-old FBI policy: You do not draw your weapon unless you intend to use it, and you never fire it unless you intend to kill someone. It is ludicrous to fault the officers for applying deadly force when they felt that their life was in danger. Everyone, whether a sworn LEO or a civilian, has a legal (and God-given)right to defend their life.

common

Still, it is a human being and not knowing the mans background would make me think twice before i fatally shot him. It is too common that people in these situations have some mental problem and unless they aim & fire directly at the cops I do not think it is right to kill them. I guess I would make a bad cop, or maybe not. The family called for HELP not to have their loved one killed. I guess like me they think that the cops have some sort of training to talk to someone in this situation and help control it. Is there not some sort of gun that fires darts to sedate the subject? It just seems the easy way is to kill them anymore, like its too much work to bother...Its just sad.

Das, his "background" has nothing to do with it

When you are confronted with an armed suspect who raises a weapon at you, one moment's hesitation can mean that you're not going home that night. I don't care if it's a nun or a twelve year-old boy holding that weapon, you return fire. While it's not an example from domestic law enforcement, it's interesting to note that the Rangers who made it out of Mogadishu alive were the ones who didn't hesitate to shoot the young boys who were firing AK-47s at them. Now, there are several non-lethal alternatives to deadly force, but they require being in fairly close proximity to the suspect. (Rubber bullets, for example, will not travel as far as traditional rounds because of decreased mass and a necessarily poor ballistic coefficient.) But you NEVER use non-lethal force to meet lethal force - that's an invitation to getting officers killed. In the case at hand, the suspect exited the home and fired at the officers. Were they completely set up and in position? Were they ready to start negotiating...or were they still establishing the perimeter and discussing their next steps? In other words, did they return fire from a purely reflexive and reactive situation because the suspect pressed the issue? They may have had every intention of talking that man out, but when the suspect takes action that forces your hand, there's little you can do but protect your own life and end the confrontation immediately.

Thank for your compassion

Thank for your compassion and sincereness. That is all we wanted was HELP. The unfortunate thing about this,{aside from Tommy's death is that I will now think twice for calling for help for myself or anyone. Where did it all go wrong?!? There was absolutely no negotiating done by the LEO, only a family member who was made to leave, thinking the LEO had someone to talk to him to help him. I know they have a job to do and the right to protect themselves. We just can't understand why they didn't back off a little, since they were obviously adgetating him, until he tired out or they had means to subdue or apprehend him by means of the armored vehicle that was on the way. He was not shooting at anyone, why not wait it out as long as he was on his own property and not shooting at anyone. This was a cry for help!!!! Who do you turn to now to get that. This has caused people to doubt the men and women who are there to protect and serve in these situations. I appreciate the job that they do until you experience something like this. My thoughts and prayers are with the entire family and community that this has affected. I also forgive those who took this drastic action, because as a Christian that is what I am supposed to do. I just hope no one EVER has to go through anything like this. However, if something like this happens again, I hope many lessons have been learned. We are all only human, but there are people out there who love and care for us, he was not a mad animal on the loose, only a human being needing help. Please pray for us all and understand that we are all hurting.

help and leo

Your welcome. I am sorry for your family and I HOPE that LEO's will try and come up with better ways of handling this type of situation in the future. I thought they were all trained for this but I guess not. I understand your point Common BUT it seems that every time this type of thing happens the person that needed the help dies. We as the public rely on the police for help... that is how we are raised, to trust that they will do the right thing and in some cases they just fail.

Sometimes they are in a no

Sometimes they are in a no win situation...we do rely on LEO for protection among other things, but sometimes people have to take responsibility for their own actions and understand that police do not always have a choice

Yes, sometimes they fail...

Sergeant Joe Friday said it best in an old episode of Dragnet. "Our problem is that we have to recruit from the human race, and until humans beings are perfect, police officers won't be." A Mark VII Production

Officers cannot do

Officers cannot do that....officer are only to use their weapon for life and death situations. The use of their weapons means shoot to kill. Otherwise officers will be using their weapons instead of pepper spray or tasers.

Exactly, this was not a life

Exactly, this was not a life or death situation, it was a call for help from someone with no criminal background or previous mental health problems. Other means should have and could have been used. He did not shoot AT LEO, only into the air. If they feared their lives why did they keep moving in closer to irritate him more so, nobody else was in danger he was alone on his own property. Is there a time limit on these situations? Why not stay back while keeping a visual on subject, wait for other means to apprehend him, as long as no ones life was in danger.

The truth WILL come out. I

The truth WILL come out. I just pray that my family will find the strength to hold their heads high and not stoop to the disgusting lows that the citizens of this community have done by the hurtful remarks that have been made about Tommy and my family! RIP Tommy, I love you and I will miss you greatly!!

FACTS OF STANDOFF

FACTS OF STANDOFF: HIS WIFE CALLED 911 HIS WIFE HAD TO RUN FROM HER HOUSE SO SHE COULD SAFELY CALL 911 HIS WIFE WAS SHOT AT BY HER HUSBAND HE STOPPED TAKING MEDS FOR A WEEK(SIGN FOR HELP) HE SHOT A LAW ENFORCEMENT SEVERAL TIMES LAW ENFORCEMENT GAVE HIM SEVERAL TIMES TO GIVE UP BETWEEN THE GUN FIRE AT THEM FAMILY TRIED TO TALK TO HIM(DIDN'T HELP) SBI TRIED TALKING TO HIM (DIDN'T HELP) HE HAD SEVEN HOURS TO CALM DOWN AND TURN HIM SELF OVER(DIDN'T HAPPEN) HE SHOT AT LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR THE LAST TIME THEN THEY RETURNED FIRE YOU TALK ABOUT SOMEONE THAT HAD ALL THE FAVORS IN HIS HAND IT'S CALLED SUICIDE BY COP, HAPPENS EVERYDAY MR. LUDLUM RAN OVER TO GIVE AN INTERVIEW WITH THE NEWS INSTEAD OF BEING WITH HIS FAMILY DURING THE TIME OF SADNESS( WHERE WAS HIS CONCERN) IF THERE IS ANY WRONG DOING IT WILL BE BROUGHT OUT IN THE INVESTIGATION THE END........................

Listen here, My uncle was

Listen here, My uncle was brutally murder by people who "so called" tried to help him. You dont know the facts, you know nothing about this. Dont tell me the facts because you know nothing. He never shot at his wife, he had no reason to. It was her choice to go over to the neighbors to call for help. He never shot at a law enforcement, he shot in the air now to me I dont think the law enforcement would be in the air. And yes the family did talk to him, he was calmed down but the law enforcement were to worried about their own selfish needs to even care about giving him help. My uncle just needed help and they promised my grandpa that they would get a negotiator to talk to him. The SBI did NOT talk to him, only his brother-in-law and he did not feel threatned at any time while he was with him. 4 1/2 hours he spent talking about the bible,huning, and fishing. This man had no attention to hurt or kill no one. Hes not that kind of person, and the law is nothing but murderers, and my grandfather was appraoched by the news cast about the situation HE DID NOT approach them. He wanted the public to know my uncle was murdered and he was lied to by the SBI. By this time, my uncle was dead and being transported the SERMC. It wasnt suicide by cop. It was murder, if he wanted to die, he would have done it himself. So dont talk to me about facts, you know nothing yourself. Get your story straight, this is what really happened... THE END! signed by: Tommy Adams Loving Family

Facts Of Standoff

Please do a little more research on your, "Facts Of Standoff"there are several of your "Facts" that are absolutely not Factual. WIFE WAS NOT SHOT AT BY HUSBAND, (He would have hit her if that was factual, he was a very good shot. He fired into the air, that was witnessed.) I DONT KNOW OF MANY PEOPLE WHO DO NOT SKIP MEDS FROM TIME TO TIME. (You can not force anyone to take anything that they don't want to.) HE DID NOT SHOOT ANYONE, (Perhaps you should proofread your statement.) THE FAMILY MEMBER HAD MANAGED TO CALM MR. ADAMS DOWN QUITE A BIT. (Until he was tricked into leaving briefly.) HOW MUCH TALKING DID THE SBI DO? (Apparently, you think you know a lot more information than those who are close to this do.) SUICIDE OR MURDER? (I wonder how you are qualified to make that call?) MR. LUDLUM WAS APPROACHED FOR THE INTERVIEW AT A VERY EMOTIONAL, (and understandably so) MOMENT.(The rest of the family had not even been allowed to all go to the scene at that point, how could he have been with them?) At this point, I ask of you to please reconsider your FACTS.

Bladenboro's Tragic Loss

I strongly disagree with alot of the negative and childish remarks that have been made. It was a tragic loss but an avoidable one..The officers and their superiors went about it the wrong way. When they knew that backing off would help they should have removed some of the officers instead of further irritating him. While he was walking around his own yard not bothering anyone,why didn't they use tranqulizers on him? If they can tranqulize a bear at several hundred yards, why not Tommy? or why not let Steve,his brother in law keep talking to him until the tactical vehicle arrived which was less than an hour away,a vehicle that would have allowed them to drive up to the home and safely talk to Tommy, taser him or use concussion grenades to take him safely,(that is what they were made for, why not use them!)No!they would not wait and lied to Steve and told him they were going to bring him back and not harm Tommy, how convienent NO Steve means no Witness. While Steve was talking with him he was calm and outside for different intervals not threatening anyone. They (the Cops) sent their only asset in getting this man help.. away. Not letting his son speak with him was a mistake also.. They used unnecessary force, treating him like someone who had been out on a killing spree all over the county. Maybe they (the SBI) were impatient, or tired or just plain did not care..as long as they could go home to their families, if waiting it out took days I would have waited it out to save his life or yours or anyones like any caring loving person or officer should want to do. Tommy was having a hard day just like we all have had but 4 officers didn't shoot us to death!! My deepest love and sympathy goes out to the family and all involved in this tragic loss of a friend, husband, father,and brother..May God Bless You All...

if you can do a better job

if you think you could have done a better job than by all means sign up and be a law enforcement officer. just remember what you said in your statements, i will repeat them at your funeral since the world just doesnt work the way you seem to think. what you need to remember is that you may have known tommy, but they did not.

reply to a better job

Maybe I should sign up since it seems that someone who is a better shot or perhaps more sympathetic and understanding, is needed...Not all law enforcement is to blame, whoever was over the SBI should have listened to some of the local officers and the family members simply because they knew the man better...Further more I don't make statements that I don't mean..The shooting officers superiors are to blame in my opinion.

There is only one person to

There is only one person to blame...and that is the man that came out firing. Let's be responsible for our actions and quit blaming others

reply to wilmman & guest12345678

You should't be on here to argue or proclaim your false facts, there are family viewing these remarks. Would you want to read these if it were your family? I don't think so! Some of you need to calm down and remember that the family is mourning and you were right someone should take responsibility and quit blaming others (the ones in charge of the shootings) and realize they failed to protect and serve the community by failng to use proper procedures that could have saved his life. You all don't know nothing about Mr.Adams,Mr.Ludlum, the family or the circumstances of the issue and for the ones of you that do, you know my statements are true and practical. You have no right saying anything about the love or concern that Steve Ludlum had for Mr. Adams or his family. If you disagree then you are deceiving yourselves and others. So please be nice because we could be discussing this about you or your family next. May God bless you all....

Craig

The only FACT that matters is that this guy came outside with a loaded weapon and fired that weapon in the general direction of the officers. LEO did what they had to do and have done no wrong. I understand that you and this guy's friends and family are in pain, but that doesn't give you or anyone else the right to criticize LEO for doing what they legally had a right to do.

to wilmman's bogus facts

The only fact here is that you are way to caught up protecting your leo's and it don't give you or your leo's or anyone else for that fact the right to criticize the family.Wake up and get real wilmman.If they would have needed him alive he would still be here. But unfortunatly he was of no importance to them so they ended it the easiest and quickest way and if you can't realize that I say again wake up wilmman smell all the wrong doing.Also let me reiterate the point that as long as Steve Ludlum was there he was calm..There were other things that could have been done to apprehend him and other ways to do it...

Say what you want

What would you be saying if he shot an officer? Say what you want and defend who you want...it doesn't change the fact that this man came outside with a loaded weapon and fired it at/near/towards LEO. It's unfortunate, but he brought this upon himself

you really know a lot

you really know a lot about everything, so you think!! these comments that you have been posting make me sick, you were not there, but i am sure if you had of been you would be guilty of the same crime that was commmited, cold blooded murder, by the people who are suppose to be able to handle these situations in a better manner, GOD WILL PREVAIL!! HE ALWAYS DOES!! DO YOU BELIEVE LEO MAKES MISTAKES !!!,THERE IS ONLY ONE PERFECT ONE!!!!!LIKE I SAID HE WILL PREVAIL !! MR WILMAM OR WHO EvER YOU ARE, YOU TRULY HAVE A HEART OF STONE!!

WilmMan Re: Say What You Want

Case closed, The judge and jury has spoken. We can all go home. Thanks WilmMan, you know so much, how do you do it? You must make a lot of money, because you know anything there is to know about everything. Good Job. Oh me, guess you brought this upon yourself.

Craig, your family has my

Craig, your family has my deepest sympathy. I can only imagine how difficult it must be trying to weed through the negative, ill-informed opinions here and I hope that you and the rest of your family won't linger too much longer. You don't need this right now. Take some time and comfort each other, away from this garbage. Good luck to you.