Man I have never heard such whining from a bunch of non firefighting people who probably count the fireplace log on fire in their house as the closest they have ever been to a fire. Support your firefighters or go and join the department yourself if you think you have the experience or guts. I am so glad you are nowhere near my outfit. We would be able to see what you are trained for. If you need a crying towel for your whining , email me with your address and i will send you one. Meanwhile I have to get back to the real deal.....