both are idiots cyclist are the most dangerous think of it this way, if i went into a cage with a hungry grizzly would i bring a steak and hang it around my neck? no i shouldn't cyclist and DUI harleys should take better care and caution to protect themselves. stupid drivers will kill dogs cats squirrels pedestrians bicyclists and other drivers, look out for yourself don't put you life in harms way choose your route carefully your loved ones will thank you