Sometimes the truth hurts. It seems like some indebted to Farris just will never see the truth, even if it is smacking them in the face. How can you tell if someone is lying? The answer is in the details. If someone can give extensive details then you can rest assured that they are not lying. Is sounds like the “holding a grudge" certainly are giving a lot of details and probably could give more. What about Farris? He can't even give his own Council members details. He gives "summaries"