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Based on your second

Based on your second paragraph ramblings, haven't had your coffee yet?

NC House bill 937

http://www.ncleg.net/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2013&Bil...

I know it's hard for most people to actually look at facts, let alone dig them up on their own (people have no problem posting comments all over the web, yet seem to have a problem using Google to get relevant facts).

In North Carolina you must be at least 21 to purchase and possess a handgun. (NC uses federal standards: 18 U.S.c. § 922(b)(I))--that rules out most students, right?

In all of North Carolina, approximately 3-4% of the residents have concealed carry permits (based on certified 2011 county population estimates and NC DOJ data on permits).

In New Hanover County, there are approximately 166,000 residents over 18 (http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/37/37129.html ) with approx 3400 valid permits (again, NC DOJ stats from their website) giving about 2% of New Hanover residents have concealed carry permits. Numbers would be better if we could get an age breakdown starting at 21, but I couldn't find stats like that.

We're not talking about a lot of people to which this legislation will apply.

Further, with regard to carry in establishments that serve alcohol, please see the existing law (http://ncdoj.gov/getdoc/32344299-a2a7-4ae5-99fd-9018262f64ac/2007-NC-Fir... )

"It is unlawful for the permittee to carry a concealed handgun while consuming alcohol, or at any time while the permittee has remaining in his or her body any alcohol or controlled substance previously consumed." (page 19)

"Keep the weapons with the CWP holders or don't allow them at all."

EXACTLY! If I drive downtown to eat, I would have to leave my handgun in the car (see your comment about car break ins), because I can't have it in the restaurant (where by the way, I'd likely be one of the few that had passed such an extensive background check--how about your waiter that takes your credit card into the back room??). It WOULD be better if I could take it with me--under my control.

Doesn't do a concealed carry permittee much good if their final destination controls whether or not they can even leave the house with their gun.

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