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Oh wait

How about a non taxpayer funded ball park?

Got no problem with that.....

Here's the deal.
Businesses have been moving out of down town because the population has moved out of down town. As far as tourism goes? With the exception of River Walk there's not much to attract folks down town.
Movie theater is gone outside of down town.
Grocers have moved out.
Mayfaire provides the key to revitalizing down town. You put people there to attract retailers. The retailers and the people living there attract other non retail related businesses.
The problem with down town is also location. Mayfaire is much closer to beaches and the aquarium is already out of down town.
And as much as you can say some folks don't drink and go to Ziggy's they are in the minority and you can't say otherwise. That's the biggest profit center for a venue like that. They recognize it, encourage it, and live by it.
If "sober" people go down town at night what is offered to them? Food - yep.
What else? Thalian Hall? Yep. River Walk.
That's it.
We are far too geared towards drinking in that area and that in itself can drive sober people away.
The city recognizes it as do the "merchants" in the area who pay for extra police patrols when the bars let out.
That fact alone shows where down town is "at" - and that is a damning piece of information for sober people to think about.
After dinner there's not much for sober people to do that will keep them isolated from the boozers and losers as you so eloquently put it. Our down town is so unattractive we couldn't get a privately built stadium there.
its so unattractive we're on our 4th attempt at a convention center hotel.
But 750 people - most of whom will be drinking? In an area already known for alcohol excess? heck why not just wheel in the casino's too.......



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