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Community colleges could lift ban on illegal immigrants

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As the school year begins, North Carolina community colleges have record enrollment numbers. A proposed policy change could mean the classrooms will get even more crowded in the near future. North Carolina community college leaders are considering lifting a ban on illegal immigrants at community colleges. It's not the first time this has been discussed and students seem as divided over the issue as the state board. The Policy Committee for the State Board of Community Colleges voted to ban illegal immigrants from the classroom last year. Since 2000 the board has changed the policy four times “This issue has been going back and forth at the state level for several years. We'll be following the rules, whatever they may be, whenever the decision is made,” said CFCC spokesperson David Hardin. One reason there may be so much back and forth, it's a polarizing issue, and it's always a close vote. Now, the board is considering changes that would allow immigrants to attend the local colleges with some restrictions. All undocumented residents would need a diploma from a U.S. high school. The students would have to pay out-of-state tuition regardless of how long they've lived in North Carolina, and they would register for classes after legal residents. But at local community colleges, finding the space for the additional students is cause for concern. “It's not only true at Cape Fear Community College, but all around the state, is that community colleges are overburdened with students,” Hardin said. About 90 percent of classes at CFCC are at capacity thanks to record enrollment While community colleges are already struggling to accommodate students, current students say they're not necessarily opposed to admitting undocumented students. “It really doesn't matter, they're here to work, they're trying to make a life for themselves,” Shannon Green said. As long as it doesn't cost legal residents a spot in the classroom. “Especially at this school right now there are so many students that are legal citizens of the US that can't get in here. It would seem kind of pointless,” said Nick Chambers.

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VOTE THEM OUT!!

Why should they be allowed to have an education in OUR country! They are here illegally! I don't care if the those that enter our country legally get what is available here as long as they are going by the rules. The rest of us have to follow the rules and laws, what makes them so special? As for the legislators pushing for it? Yes they are. Why you may ask? Because they are afraid of losing the vote of those who are here legally. And many of the legal residents are sheltering and providing for those here illegally. This is why we need to vote these people out of office. WE as AMERICAN CITIZENS need to get off our butts and show the legislators on all levels of government that we aren't going to take it anymore!!!! VOTE THEM OUT!!!!! I have never been one for getting involved in political arguments or even discussing politics but I'm getting over that! I can not stand the way things are going. Our personal freedoms, rights as Americans are being trampled and most of us can only sit around and moan and groan about it. Well stop sitting around. GET INVOLVED!!!!!! Go to the rallies! Go to your local representatives and tell them you aren't going to take it anymore! That you want a change you can believe in (and NO I'm NOT an OBAMA supporter!) We are getting a change all right but Obama is NOT giving us a change we can believe in and I never thought he would!

Illegal Immigrants in College

First of all, many of the illegal immigrants that are being considered are those that came here involuntarily. Many of them are children of immigrants and cannot help their situation.

Secondly, whether they are voted out or whether legislature votes the bill in, immigrants will not even be able to attend college because of the strict stipulations involved. They must: pay 5x more than an in state student, not be eligible for financial aid, have graduated from a US High school, and their presence must not displace any qualified U.S. Citizen or legal resident. That's a pretty high bar. I know for a fact that I could not afford CFCC if I had not had FASFA or had to pay 5x the instate amount.

Send them back, vote them out? Back to what? This is the only home many of the illegal immigrants know. They would be strangers in their own "homeland". They are Americanized, if not officially, "Americans". Have we as a population become so completely desensitized by venomous rants that pass for the "IMMIGRATION DEBATE" that we are completely and utterly incapable of showing kindness toward human beings at heart?

These kids/adults have so much potential! One person from the family may complete college and then bring in enough income to lift the whole family out of poverty! Allowing immigrants into our colleges will bring diversity and culture to our community as well as TOLERANCE from the public! If they are allowed to enroll, it should be used as a mechanism to help them (the immigrants) apply for legal residence and, citizenship.

Yes, technically, they are illegal. I am well aware of this. However, many of these illegal immigrants want to earn an education MORE than our own kids do! I am a college student and I can tell you from experience that the apathy from many of the students at CFCC is absolutely astounding! Many of the people succeeding are those that are not from this country OR have a highly collateralized background.

The goal is to lend a hand, give people the chance they deserve and ULTIMATLEY have a well rounded, educated public.

Next time, please acquire information for yourself and realize the power of your words and how they reflect upon you. If one is not into "political discussion" and do not know the whole truth of a situation, then he or she might wish to stay out of the heat of the kitchen.

Free College Degrees for Illegals?

I wonder how many of these illegal alien college students would get FREE PELL GRANT money all the while further limiting enrollment for AMERICAN CITIZENS?? Obama has expanded the PELL grant funds. NCCC "leaders" simply want to cash in on some of that grant money by registering illegal aliens. Rising demand for higher education leads to significantly higher costs. When someone else is paying the bills, costs always rise! Not only will your child miss out on classes due to enrollement----but you the tax payer will get to help foot the bill. The day my son got his DECLINE letter to UT in Austin, we saw an illegal on the news get accepted to UT with a FULL scholarship. Don't let what is happening in other states like Texas happen here in North Carolina.

Illegal's

Illegal's...., There is nothing to talk about. The answer is NO THEY ARE ILLEGAL AND THEY HAVE NO RIGHTS!!!!! It's just that simple Raleigh.

Illegal Aliens attending Community Colleges

Here we go again. The liberal element feels we should use our tax money to support illegals both in education and all other facets of life. This is the exact tactic that bankrupted the state of California. NC will be next.

education sovereignty

if we all would let our morals be our compass then maybe we would see that all human beings deserve the same rights. everyone contributes to the economy legal or illegal everytime they shop and if illegals were given the chance to pay extra taxes to be able to live a decent life, they would so gladly pay.

Hey, genius, they are given

Hey, genius, they are given the chance to pay taxes like everyone else. It's called becoming "legal" and if that were the case we wouldn't be having this discussion right now. Einstein once said "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." I believe this to be true.

They do pay taxes ...

You don't know what you are talking about. They pay taxes under a fake id ... ?? You are a moron and most likely YOU are someone who has never worked 12 hour days! I am a college graduate and I still have to work two jobs to get by. I pay a fortune to have health care for myself and my family. Sometimes necessary office visits are delayed because of cost. I don't see the same happening for the ILLEGALs here in Wilmington. Visit the emergency room and take a look around at all the friends of yours using their fake ids - another expense to our community because those bills will never be paid!!! Illegal - does that not say volumes?

With their ITIN numbers they

With their ITIN numbers they pay taxes. Or some use made-up social security numbers which they can't get tax returns with.

Undocumented is illegal

When will "We the people" stand up and say enough is enough. Probably when it's too late. These undocumented illegals have been putting a strain on our country for far too long. The powers in Washington do nothing because they are too busy trying to herd us into socialism. THROW THE BUMS IN WASHINGTON OUT of office and send the illegals back across the border!

CFCC college

My son has been a student at CFCC for 2 years. He was born in NC and has paid taxes here since he was 16. If his chance of getting into any class was diminished because an ILLEGAL was in the spot that would be a SLAP IN THE FACE to him and the rest of his family that came here from EUROPE LEGALLY in the 60's. If people want to be American then JOIN US legally like the millions of people that came before you, get a SS#, pay your taxes and then apply to school. This idea is ridiculous and wrong.

Illegal immigrants - College - No Way!

What part of [illegal immigrant] don't the Policy Committee for the State Board of Community Colleges understand?...And why would they waste time discussing whether or not an illegal immigrant should be allowed to take classes at a Community College? ... Why should they? Do they pay taxes? Do they have a social security card? How would they have a US High School Diploma anyway? Can someone explain this?

American Students need to be considered first

It is reasonable to believe that our country should consider it's citizens FIRST, before any consideration for the needs of foreigners here from other countries. It is reasonable to provide social services to American citizens FIRST, before providing for the needs of illegal immigrants and their offspring. It is reasonable to make sure our laws are enforced equally for everyone, not that people here illegally get a free pass because the police don't want to enforce certain laws they prefer to ignore. It is reasonable to expect our government representatives to put the needs of the voters before the special interest groups that contribute to their campaigns. But this is not a reasonable country. The unreasonable forces are persuasive and the voices of the voters are drown out by the loud screams from special interest groups that just want masses from other countries to trample our rights and overtake our land. It's reasonable to get very mad about that.

"Illegals"

What part of illegal is it that these morons don't get? So it's ok for schools to "condone" illegal activity? Shannon Green says it doesn't matter huh? Yes bubbles it does matter. They can take part in what America has to offer after they come into this country legally and not one second before. Amazing that this is even a remote thought.........

illegals

Those are not immigrants but a invading horde of Illegal Aliens! American tax payers cannot provide free health to non-citizens no matter from where, or what race! Our government fails the most basic and primary task & duty of government, to protect this Nation and its Citizens from invasion and enforce its laws. They refuse to abide by our Constitution, refuse to enforce our Immigration Laws and refuse to honor their Oath of Office! Our Government, past & present, Republican & Democrat, have allowed the invasion of 20 to 30 million criminals and uneducated peons which is the largest invasion of any Nation, at any time, by any means & in direct violation of Article IV, Section IV of our Constitution. This refusal to abide by our Constitution or enforce our Immigration Laws should be classified as Treason of the most foul kind, & as grounds for impeachment & trials for Treason! Not only have they allowed the invasion, they force American tax payers to pay Billions on Billions of dollars to provide Welfare, Prison cells, Educate the invaders numerous children, and free medical care, at the same time the invading horde break numerous laws and massive document fraud, & are destroying our schools, hospitals, communities, culture and standard of living while Robbing, Raping, Killing & Assaulting American Citizens at an rate the terrorist can only dream about. Recent statements in Mexico from both President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary something needs to be done. "Our inability to prevent weapons from being illegally smuggled across the border to arm these criminals causes the deaths of police officers, soldiers, and civilians," Hillary whined. But no mention, whines, concern or care that their refusal to stop the Massive Invasion of Illegal Aliens pouring across our borders or enforce our immigration laws that causes an estimated 25 Americans deaths per day and 10,s of thousands victims of Assault, Robberies, Rapes, Identify thief, and other assorted crimes committed by the invading horde of Illegal Aliens from Mexico on American citizens each year! It is a telling indictment & shows their Empathy & Compassion of our Politicians & their priorities are not for the American citizens when they express more concern over Mexicans deaths mostly connected to the Drug trade, than the murders, havoc & crimes of Illegal Aliens against American Citizens! The Democrats view the invading horde of Criminals and Uneducated third world rejects as Undocumented Welfare Democrats & the Republicans as Undocumented Slave labor for their Pay Masters in the Chamber of Commerce & Businesses! Most of our Politicians in Wash. DC are wading knee deep in innocent American blood and suffering because they put Self Interest ahead of the interest of American Citizens & the future of this Nation! The Citizens of this Nation have not sacrificed with blood, sweat & tears for over 200 years & obeyed the Laws of the land, paid the taxes, and fought the wars & built this Nation to see Corrupt politicians turn this Nation into the United States of Mexico without a shot being fired, to serve their demented, nefarious goals and lust for power!

illegal aliens getting college

Folks, we as Americans should know that you CANNOT pick and choose which laws you want to follow and which laws you do NOT want to follow. The Non-representing representatives of ours are following marching orders from god knows who. but its not us, and its not the Law! We Americans need to STAND UP NOW and tell them enough is enough! FOLLOW the LAW! kick out every illegal alien and their children, send them back to Mexico or wherever it is they are from! they are abusing the system!, and you can bet LARAZA is behind a majority of this! healthcare? say NO to covering illegals out of our pockets! we have done this far to long! and are now facing the consequences! Our schools are overcrowded with them! they get free foodstamps! free medical! free places to live! why would they NOT want these things?? it is TIME for them to GO HOME! Let mexico deal with its own, or they can go their and change thier own country! As an American Citizen iam TIRED of footing the bill here! where in the CONSTITUTION does it say "sneak across the border, drop a child and get free living, compliments of the U.S.Taxpayer??? what did our forefathers fight and die for?? this SNAFU? tell your Non-representing -representatives that it is time to FOLLOW THE LAW! every last one of them that set foot across our border BROKE THE LAW! they need to be apprehended, deported, and if they come back, build a prison in MEXICO and let them take care of their own!

WHY

I don't understand why this is a issue, I have had to show my daughter's last year tax return and also mine to get her in. CFCC now you want people that are no legal to get the free aid and move my student, All the school is looking for is numbers and money. If you show that you legal and stay in this country and work pay taxes you shouldn't be here at all

It's not CFCC or any of the

It's not CFCC or any of the schools that "want" or "don't want" them- it's the legislature deciding- DUH. All it means for the schools is more paperwork hassles keeping up with it.

You've got to be kidding me

So glad to know that the degree I obtained from CFCC will now be devalued as any illegal immigrant can get a degree and compete with me in the marketplace, all the while not paying taxes yet reaping the same benefits I get. Great idea guys!!!!

Illegals at Community Colleges

They are illegal and should not be in any school supported by taxes.

They pay taxes

Undocumented aliens DO PAY TAXES, this is a complete lie, they do pay taxes even using a fake ID which then don't allow them to get tax return or SS benefits, they will never see that money, most of them work harder than you probably, take a look here in Wilmington in Landscaping, Construction or go to some of our neighbor counties to see them working the crops, until I'll see you doing that in mass, I will side with you, but with the laziness that people around here have I don't see it coming.

it's not about work ethics

Yes, ILLEGAL ALIENS do work harder than SOME people, HOWEVER does that entitle them to get more benefits, and rights then LEGAL citizens. They should NOT be given FREE housing, food, medical, dental, transportation, etc using TAX payers dollars. If they want to be able to to live, work and enjoy everything else the United States has to offer, they should be required to become citizens. Pay their dues like the rest of us and get nothing for free. There are people who need help and can't get it who ARE citizens, but yet people who are NOT citizens get assistance? Where's the sense in that? Think of the BILLONS this country would save if we stopped giving out money to people who are here illegally.

ILLEGALS AT CFCC

I'm tired of hearing how only illegals work in landscaping and construction. They are taking jobs from American citizens. I have been in the construction business for 10 years, working with American citizens. I am tired of my money going to to help support illegals. I, with teachers at my nephew's elementary school are also tired of our taxes teaching English as a second language and taking up valuable space. Now my son is at CFCC when he registered his tuition was $500+, two weeks later as I paid his tuition it was $600+ because our government is broke, yet we want to support higher learning for illegals. I am also tired of being forced to push the 'English' button. In other countries you either learn their language or suffer. All bleeding hearts and illegals need to move to Mexico and STAY.