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Confrontations emerge at Palin event in NC

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ASHEVILLE -- Supporters of Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama are confronting people attending a North Carolina event featuring Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin. The faceoff in downtown Asheville included loud yelling and vulgar signs. The event showcased the tension between people who live in the liberal enclave and the others living in conservative counties that surround Asheville. Authorities stood between the crowds, which included a couple of hundred Obama supporters and several thousand Palin supporters waiting to enter the event. Both sides crowded the sidewalks of a downtown street, at times disrupting traffic as they spilled into the road to confront each other. Some heated arguments devolved into minor shoving. (Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

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Take a moment to look at both sides. I generally tend to debate the politics with such things as facts and articles, whereas, like a few comments beneath me, the Conservative lines like to use such things as name calling and scare tactics. Not many people like where we are right now, and to suggest that re-electing the party that has brought us down this path will bring about change is completely absurd. Obama, all the way.

That's not name-calling

It's a clear, accurate assessment of who is voting for Obama. FACT: Obama has flat out said that he intends to "spread the wealth." FACT: Obama's voting record clearly indicates that his definition of wealth drops far below $250k. FACT: If you are in agreement with his policies and plans, and plan on voting for him, then you are obviously a: Sap/Sucker, because you feal guilty for being successful and not being a loser. ...or a... Simpleton, because you actually believe that he's a changed man, and won't vote like he always has. ...or a... Sc**bag, because you're one of the sponges who will profit from his spreading other people's wealth to you. ...or a... Socialist, who truly believes that we should all share all the cookies and everyone deserves the same, regardless of how hard they work or avoid work. Sometimes the truth hurts, but it is still the truth, regardless.

YEAHHhhhh

and the Democratically controlled Congress has done SO WELL for our economy the last two years....sit down your kool-aid and WAKE UP. LOL if you are getting your stories from ABC, CBS and NBC...you aren't getting the whole story!

Neither of them are going to

Neither of them are going to do all good or all bad, vote for the one who lies the best!

I have a fifth S category!

Okay, that's a bit of hype and false advertising. Truth be told, it's really just a sub-category under Saps. I have decided that the people displaying Obama signs in front of their multi-million-dollar waterfront McMansions are "Supremely Stupid Suckers." (Hmmmmm....or should they really be listed under Simpletons, for being too dense to realize that they're the very people the Democrats hate with a passion and plan on looting six ways from Sunday?) Anyway, to recap....the following people are voting for Obama, and if YOU are voting for Obama, you DEFINITELY fall into one of these categories: Category I Saps Subcategory Ia Supremely Stupid Suckers Category II Simpletons Category III Socialists (true believers) Category IV Sc**bags

Amen

Amen brother! I voted for McCain today. I don't need the government to take "mine" and give it to "them."

Palin Event

Liberals throwing a temper tantrum? Being vulgar and shoving others? I just don't believe it! ...or is this the "change" we can expect?

bully protestors

WHY IS IT THAT ONLY THE DEMOCRATS WANT TO STOP FREE SPEECH AT REPUBLICAN RALLIES... DO THESE BULLIES HAVE NO JOBS TO GO TO, OR IS THEIR JOB GOING AROUND FROM THEIR SOCIALIST UNIVERSITIES TO HASSLE AND DISTURB THEIR OPPONENTS...HOW PATHETIC THEY ARE THAT THEY HAVE TO RESORT TO APE-LIKE MENTALITIES TO GAIN ATTENTION FROM THE OTHER APE-LIKE MENTALITY THINKING PRESS...THERE ARE NO PROFESSIONAL JOURNALISTS IN THE LEFT WING PRESS...JUST A BUNCH OF STUDENTS TRYING TO GET ATTENTION ANY WAY THEY CAN PHYSICALLY..BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT SMART ENOUGH TO WRITE A BONAFIDE ARTICLE ABOUT THEIR SHALLOW NEEDS...PROBABLY NOT ONE OF THE PROTESTORS HAVE EVER HAD TO WORRY ABOUT A PAYROLL FOR A BUSINESS AND HOW TO PAY THE EMPLOYEES THAT DEPEND ON YOU...OH, YES I FORGOT OBAMA WILL ROB THE MIDDLE CLASS AND GIVE TO THE STREET PEOPLE ON DRUGS...CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THAT SCENARIO....I THINK AMERICA WILL NEED A LOT OF SOUP RECIPES....IF YOU DON'T GET THAT, YOU DON'T GET IT AT ALL...

man o man

"OBAMA WILL ROB THE MIDDLE CLASS AND GIVE TO THE STREET PEOPLE ON DRUGS" And why is that? Apparently you have not researched or read one thing about his PLAN. Middle class will get no increase in taxes you dolt. How many times does that need to be said? Learn to write proper comments. You make yourself look as ignorant as you sound.

Zippy

zippy zippy...his PLAN also GIVES MONEY from taxes those of us that WORK PAY...to those who DONT WORK OR PAY TAXES...that isn't fair! His PLAN also taxes small business and big business...guess who gets to pay for those increase in taxes?....WE DO..it gets passed down the line as an increase in goods...LOL...you just cannot see the truth because you are being MIND TRICKED! All anyone voting for oBUMA is hearing is MONEY MONEY MONEY..Ill GET MORE MONEY..when in fact...THAT ISN'T TRUE!

Zippy, you are like some little kid...

...who truly believes in Santa Claus. Don't go by his "plan!" Go by his voting record on taxes and firearms. This will shock you, Zippy: Politicians often LIE to get elected.

Well..........

Ho Ho Ho. They lie?? WOW really? I am thinking of not voting at all now. Look, someone on here has to admit to voting for him so you and SurfcityTommy boy will have someone to gripe at the next 4 years. :) Atleast I am honest about it. I would put a Obama sign in my yard but some skinhead/redneck might shoot my house.

re:man o man/ zippy

Zippy, have you ever worked retail? Businesses don't pay tax hikes. Any cost of doing business is always passed along to the consumer. The middle class will pay the Obama taxes that is imposed on businesses. Groceries, clothes, gas, your dinner at the restaurant (if you can afford to go out to eat) will all cost more when you step up to the cash register. Democrats know this, they have sold their lie, hook, line and sinker. If you believe this lie, I have a bridge to sell you! Democrats can blame the evil, rich, business owner. It is the Democrat Party who will tax the middle class. They just don't have the integrity to look the American people in the eyes and be honest and say so. We will pay it at the cash register! BTW, there will probably be less locally owned restaurants to go to under the Obama presidency. Many local family owned businesses will fall into the $250,000 income and will most likely have to close their doors.

250,000

If you make 250,000 a year and can't afford to stay open then YOUR money is going somewhere it should not be?????? Try living off 20,000 a year. All you RICH people making that kind of money will just have to come down off your pedesal now aren't ya??? BOO HOO

It

IS 250,000 GROSS...which isn't CRAP! If you make 250,000 GROSS...you don't have much left after paying the bills and employees!

poor pitiful you

Is it a pity party you want? 20k a year is probably all you are worth. Taking others hard earned money is going to make you feel better about yourself? Please...with that attitude, 20k will be your peak.

our money

you don't make 250k sitting on your rear end complaining that you didn't get yours i have worked my butt off in my job to climb the proverbial ladder, 12 years ago i started at a local construction co at 9.00 an hour today, 12 long years later i make over 60k no one gave me anything i earned it. and i'm proud that i did it with out goverment assistance and the people that earned over 250k have earned it and they deserve to keep it. tell the tree huggers and all of the "i can't stand on my own without the goverments help"., belive it or not hard work will not kill you. ya'll will love it if we the hard working have to give to you the slack for no other reason than you are to sorry to do for yourself

$20K

I have lived off of $20,000 per year and I did it with out getting a check from the government. I was in that 40% once that paid no taxes. Now I am not. But I guess if I can do it without Government Assistance I think others should be able to as well. I certainly don't want my hard earned money to be stolen by the government to fund more welfare. Thanks, but no thanks. OBAMA's plan is a ruse. HE IS A SOCIALIST that is FRIENDS with terrorists and that is a check you can take to the bank!

No, we'll still wind up on top

There are LOTS of legal loopholes to defer taxes or totally avoid taxes. Here are three uniformly consistent FACTS from Economics History. 1. Cutting taxes leads to rapid economic growth. (Ireland offers the most recent example.) If, however, you don't cut spending, it can lead to really hard times. 2. Raising taxes and dedicating the revenue to reduce debt will slow growth, but generally leads to a higher value currency and long-term moderate growth in the economy. (Clinton did this, but also adopted other policies that undid a lot of the good he intended to do.) 3. Raising taxes and using the money to fund additional new expenses that do not generate income invariably leads to economic stagnation. Let me explain that third rule for you. If we raise taxes and dedicate the money entirely to repairing the disintegrating infrastructure in this nation, we will create tens of thousands of new construction jobs, all of which will be generating income and payroll taxes. If, however, we raise taxes and simply increase EIC, as Obama wants to do, we simply take the money away from the people who earned it and give it to people who are most likely collecting EIC because they stink at life-management or financial-management in the first place. You accomplish nothing. Few EIC dollars ever make it into an IRA or a 529 Plan. Most of them go to purchase unnecessary extravagances, like a bigger TV, jewelry, of some nice chrome spinners. Far too many pay for alcohol, tobacco, and drugs. Meanwhile, you lost the investments that the money would have funded had the original earners been allowed to do with it as they chose. Let me explain THAT for you. If I invest twenty dollars in Progress Energy, that's twenty dollars they can put toward building a new substation, buying a new truck, or hiring a new worker. If Obama Claus takes that money away from me and gives it to an EIC recipient, that money goes to pay for....what? Cigarettes? Crack? Diapers? If you're only making $20k a year, I'd suggest getting off your butt and figuring out how to improve your earning potential. Don't sit around waiting for some Socialist messiah to save you, because you'll be sorely disappointed.

Guest 555.... you aren't

Guest 555.... you aren't real bright are you? There is a lot you have to pay including employees before you the business owner sees a dime of that money.

All Caps? Really?

If I was going to post something in a public forum, I would go back to my grammar books and make sure my point(not that there is one here)wasn't clouded by incomplete sentences, and incorrect punctuation. All caps, too. Very nice. And you should really get educated before you bash the free thinking people in this country. Some of us don't mind paying just a bit more in taxes so we can have decent health care. And I manage a payroll often, so don't generalize. And I don't remember hearing or reading anything anywhere about Obama handing out cash to junkies. More of your rhetoric. Why not put that in a chain letter including the words Muslim, Black Agenda and Anti-American. That should satisfy your need to pass on false "truths".

LOL

They are against Obama so now they become a racist...LOL I DO mind my money going to pay for your health care. I DO mind my money being redistributed to those that don't deserve it. I DO mind that Obama wants "economic justice", which is another name for reparations. See, I want to KEEP whats mine. I worked hard for it and nobody deserves to live off of my hard work. Tell you what...in the name of Obama and the Democrats. The rest of this week whenever I go out to eat...I am going to let my server know that in the interest of economic justice and spreading the wealth that I am going to not give their tip to THEM, but to the guy on the street corner with the sign begging for money. He deserves it, right? Not fair that the mean 'ole server that worked for it gets to keep whats theirs.

health care

I work in health care and see people every day that have "government" health care. Tricare, Medicaid, etc. People are sadly mistaken if they think govenment run health care will be better than what we have now.

check your own grammar

I counted three times where you started a sentence with the word "and" also ended an interragotive statement with a period, (that big word is a fancy word for a question). You need to do more research on government controlled health care and see what happens when the doctor tells you that you have to wait six months before your procedure can be done due to the waiting line. I agree that the democrats are the one party that always brings the disruptive people out, instead of doing something that shows a little knowledge and integrity.

Some of the greatest writers

Some of the greatest writers of all time, including Langston Hughes, started sentences with and. There is no rules against that. P.S. One word sentences are o.k. as well. YEAH!

Were you born yesterday?

"Some of us don't mind paying just a bit more in taxes so we can have decent health care." I have decent healthcare. 5 out of 6 Americans have decent healthcare. Please put your Socialist tripe on hold and work harder to afford better healthcare if you're not satisfied with yours. It's not MY job to pay higher taxes so that YOU have better healthcare. BTW, has it occured to you that increased advance EIC payments will be no different than the old welfare system, and you will have absolutely no say in how the recipients spend it? You can rest assured that it WILL fund a lot of dope. I cannot believe that a grown person can be so naive.

5 of 6?

Me My Wife My Mother My Sister <-----0 of these 7 have descent My Father health insurance. My In-Laws Not because the choose not to, some of their employers do not offer it, some have preexisting conditions that make their premiums over $1000 a month...My father-in-law works 6 days a week and I'm not sure how he can "work harder?" I am a full time student, husband, father, and full time worker...when should I work harder??

Don't blame or bill society because of your family

The simple fact is that the current estimate is that forty-five million Americans don't have health insurance. That means that two-hundred, fifty-five million Americans DO have health insurance. Pre-existing conditions raise premiums. If you are the one who has already suffered a heart attack, why should you and I pay the same premium? Insurance is a pure risk play, and the higher risk you are, the more you have to pay. It's called "economic reality." It's a joy to once again see someone who has made a voluntary decision regarding how they spend their money, yet bemoans a lack of health insurance. So let's go over this for the fiftieth time: **YOU** are making a decision to go to school full time. That's how you **WANT** to spend your time. If health insurance is all that important to you, you can easily stop going to school, save the money on books and lab fees, and get a part-time job to help pay for health insurance. YOU have made a decision to better yourself in hopes of finding a better job when you graduate. That's admirable (and much better than the woman who thought she could spend her money on clothes, a nice car, a nice apartment, and society should subsidize her health insurance) but in the meantime you have to gamble that you will not need health insurance. Bottom line? You can't have everything in life! You've chosen college over medical insurance. I hope that your gamble pays off. In the meantime, I'm not interested in paying extra taxes so that you CAN have it all.

you made that bed, enjoy

You couldn't wait to finish school to start your family and now it is my problem? Why should I get punished by higher taxes because you couldn't keep your pants zipped, finish school and then get that great job with the wonderful benefits and pay? Or are you pursuing some useless field of study that will qualify you to ask if I want to super size my order?

even

with the "credit card" type issuance, have you noticed how many buy beer and cigarettes with their bennies? Yet the amount they recieve is clearly a function of the number of children in the household. So are they giving the beer and cigarettes to the children?? Stop in any of the country stores, or in towns like Fayetteville, Lumberton, or Roanoke Rapids. Even some of the "chain" grocery stores allow that type of purchase with the "card".