Do you think corporal punishment (spanking) should be allowed in public school?

I have to admit i am 13 years old and call me crazy but how do you think we feel?Huh,getting what what i think of as assulted. oh and the thing is there assulting us for things every human has a right to do such as defending ourselves or talking,seriosly talking if we wernt supposed to talk why did god give us the ablilty to.And it doesnt even work some kids in my class get paddled every day it doesnt change the way they act they just say "that s*** hurts"
there was even one teacher who got killed for paddling one of her students.

How does anyone actually answer NO? I have two children, both are well disiplined at home and are great at church, but the moment you put them in a room with 15 other kids, its another story. I cant even sign a legal document to allow the teacher to spank my child, I was told thats child abuse...REALLY???? Well my daddy, mother, grandparents, great grand parents, and so on all need to be charged with abuse. Im not even saying that all teachers should be allowed, just give the permission to one individual or just a few and send the children who get into trouble to them....something.

All the crying and whinning is comming from people who really dont matter, and our teachers are paying the price for the lack of desipline. Does anyone remember the one bad kid in the class? How come nowadays there are more than one or two per class????? Could it be they know the teachers can do nothing to them?!?!

I saw let the decision rest between the teacher and the parent, not some lawmaker that doesnt know my child from the hole under his nose spewing nothing but political garbabge.

If you dont want your child spanked thats fine, I dont understand it, but its not my decision. I just want to be FREE to parent my way, and not the way they make me, if the state wants to do the parenting they should of had the baby.

Last note- dont dock me on spelling, I cant spell to save my life and dont really care enough to spell check. No I dont condone abuse, there is a line and everyone knows what that is whether you want to admit it or not. I do believe fully that the society today is a true representation of our entertainment standards (and for all thoes that instantly got mad, have you ever seen the KIDS movie Shrek, Enchanted, or the teen show that was supposed to be about NOT having sex -the secret life of an american teenager...Really?) and lack of disipline.

I work at a daycare I care for children ages 3 and 4, I have never in my life been around more children who needed a good old fashioned spanking in my life! I have seen some of these children hit their parents spit on them kick them, push them, run down the halls tearing down posters and art work along the way. No what do you do in those cases....sit little Billy down and tell him that "it makes you feel sad when they are acting that way and it's not nice?" No here's what you do...take child by the hand find an empty seat pick the child up place them on their stomach across your lap and place a few well need swats onto their butt! it kills me why the hell are parents so scared to actually be PARENTS THESE DAYS?! there is noting in the world that will ever change my mind on this topic I'm always going to be 100% pro spanking......I'm all for it! However I do believe it it up to the parents to do the spanking, the childs teacher.

Our son with special needs and a tethered spinal cord who is 7 was spanked by his 1st grade teacher on September 24 2011. I am sad to say that they are still allowing her to teach and that she didn't get as much as an hour off from teaching her class due to this let alone any discipline. My husband and I believe that spanking your child or any ones child (as a teacher or relative) is unacceptable. All your doing is teaching your child that it's okay to be physical with others. In our case of a teacher spanking a student it becomes much more that just the fact that he was spanked. He was consistently being made fun of for his speech and his disabilities. The teach was doing nothing about it, in fact at one point she participated in laughing at him when he got upset. Bottom line is spanking is not okay in or out of school.

I am 13 years old and i agree that spanking isn't a bad thing. It teaches disipline, and i have been spanked before. But i deserved it because i was out of control. When spanking a child(not til they're black and blue of course)it tells them "Calm down you're out of control, I am in charge." I also thinks schools should have permission to spank children as dicipline, but not in front of everyone so that they have to live in embarrassment for the rest of their lives.

I do think we have a serious lack of respect with our children in schools. Disrespect is learned from the enviroment a child is raised in...which include at home and school enviroments.

Children at home often witness disrespectful attitudes in their parents toward others, at the same time "experts" at school have told children that discipline is a bad thing and their parents are in the dark age if they spank them. This statement alone plants that seed of disrespect toward a parent if they discipline their child.

It is no wonder our kids are so screwed up in the head. Educators have instilled the idea that parents don't have a right to tell their kids what to do if they do wrong, it's the parents fault for emotionally damaging their fragile minds while young. We have instilled a "victim" mentality in our kids. Does the statement "he/she is good, they didn't deserve that" remark sound vaguely familiar? The so called "experts" who took discipline away from parents cannot accept that they themselves are partially to blame for the problem we now face with our kids. The seeds of disrespect didn't stop with the parents, it filtered over to teachers, law enforcement etc. They have taken the "I am the one in control of me" to disrespect ANYONE in authority over them. So many kids today will spit in the face of these same teachers and experts who told them their mom and dad lives in the dark ages.

I had rather embarress my child when young, than see them in prison later. They won't be scarred for life from embarressment, but they will be scarred for life with a prison sentence.

Intelligent people know you can raise a child to know right and wrong without violence. Hitting a child in any form is the easy and ignorant way to solve the problem.

What if the folks that were spanked by their parents are still scared they're going to get hit again if the speak out against spanking? How do we know if your speaking your mind or speaking out of fear?

You know, the reason so many people want to go back to corporal punishment in school is because respect has been lost from older children and teens. Children are told from educators that mommy and daddy should not be spanking you, and you should call the police. So what happens? Now you have older children and teens with attitudes in telling adults " you can't touch me", "if you hit me, I'm going to call the police" attitude. Are you kidding me? I grew up with spanking and I have NO resentments toward my parents. I am not mentally impaired because my hand was smacked in class my a nun. If I was spanked or my hand was slapped, probably I deserved it and it made me think again to restrain myself from doing it again. There is a saying that has been passed down from generations that children in the beginning when they are young should fear their parents, then respect, and finally they are their friends as adults. The BIBLE, Quran, Torah mention such discipline a necessity to ensure the child stays on the correct path in life.

Yet there are limits of corporal punishment where it turns into abuse and educators should educate children as well to tell the difference when the child is being abused or being spanked because what he/she did was very wrong. Furthermore,if corporal punishment is accepted in school, certain actions should merit such action and the amount of paddles and how hard to avoid future litigation.

Bottom line there needs to be a medium between non and corporal punishment because the extreme in both has shown historically that it's had a negative impact as well.

I don't think that corporal punishment would do any good. However, there should be other effective measures against those who don't follow the rules.

We have raised our children with patience and kindness, taking responsibility for teaching them to “Treat Others as we wish to be treated”. Our 3 children, who we do not HIT, are intelligent, reasonable and well-behaved and attend schools in an UNRESPONSIVE Paddling School District. We are unable to protect our children from witnessing/overhearing "teachers" threaten/HIT students with WOODEN PADDLES just outside class for minor infractions, then the battered student is further humiliated when they immediately face classmates with red and tear-stained face when they return to their seat. School Paddling creates a learning environment full of FEAR, INTIMIDATION, ANXIETY, DREAD AND HUMILIATION! Maintaining order through fear and violence is NEVER JUSTIFIED! Tennessee State Law does NOT require Parental Consent or Notification for Children to be Physically/Corporally Punished in SCHOOL!

Corporal Punishment of Children in Schools in ILLEGAL IN 30 STATES where schools operate everyday without physical punishment! There are Pornographic Websites that promote Corporal Punishment/Sexual Assault of Children. NOT EXACTLY EDUCATION'S "BEST PRACTICE".

Our nation's most prominent and trusted Children's Health and Education Organizations have issued official Position Statements OPPOSING Physical/Corporal Punishment of Children in Schools!

A School District in Leflore County, Mississippi was SUED TWICE IN ONE MONTH for $500,000 EACH TIME by the families of elementary school children INJURED by school employees hitting them with WOODEN PADDLES to deliberately inflict physical pain and suffering intended to PUNISH them and an elementary school principal in La Vega, Texas was ARRESTED last month for INJURING a child by administering Corporal Punishment (hitting him with a wooden paddle). A Federal Lawsuit was filed in Mississippi February 2010 to ban school paddling and also seeks a Declaration that School Corporal Punishment is UNCONSTITUTIONAL! The Cost to ABOLISH Corporal Punishment of ALL CHILDREN IN ALL SCHOOLS IS $0.

People used to think it was necessary to "spank" adult members of the community, military trainees, and prisoners. In some countries they still do. In our country, it is considered sexual battery if a person over the age of 18 is "spanked", but only if over the age of 18.

For one thing, because the buttocks are so close to the sex organs and so multiply linked to sexual nerve centers, striking them can trigger powerful and involuntary sexual stimulus in some people. There are numerous physiological ways in which it can be sexually abusive, but I won't list them all here. One can use the resources I've posted if they want to learn more. All materials listed may be accessed at the website of Parents and Teachers Against Violence In Education at www.nospank.net.

Child buttock-battering vs. DISCIPLINE:

Child buttock-battering (euphemistically labeled "spanking","swatting","switching","smacking", "paddling",or other cute-sounding names) for the purpose of gaining compliance is nothing more than an inherited bad habit.

Its a good idea for people to take a look at what they are doing, and learn how to DISCIPLINE instead of hit.

I think the reason why television shows like "Supernanny" and "Dr. Phil" are so popular is because that is precisely what many (not all) people are trying to do.

There are several reasons why child bottom-slapping isn't a good idea. Here are some good, quick reads recommended by professionals:

Plain Talk About Spanking
by Jordan Riak,

The Sexual Dangers of Spanking Children
by Tom Johnson,

NO VITAL ORGANS THERE, So They Say
by Lesli Taylor M.D. and Adah Maurer Ph.D.

Most compelling of all reasons to abandon this worst of all bad habits is the fact that buttock-battering can be unintentional or intentional sexual abuse for some children. There is an abundance of educational resources, testimony, documentation, etc available on the subject that can easily be found by doing a little research with the recommended reads-visit the website of Parents and Teachers Against Violence In Education at www.nospank.net.

Just a handful of those helping to raise awareness of why child bottom-slapping isn't a good idea:

American Academy of Pediatrics,
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry,
American Psychological Association,
Center For Effective Discipline,
Churches' Network For Non-Violence,
Nobel Peace Prize recipient Archbishop Desmond Tutu,
Parenting In Jesus' Footsteps,
Global Initiative To End All Corporal Punishment of Children,
United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child.

In 26 countries, child corporal punishment is prohibited by law (with more in process). In fact, the US was the only UN member that did not ratify the Convention on the Rights of the Child.

It comes as a total shock to people in most of the US states that children, adolescents, and teens are allowed to be hit by their teachers.

1) "Plain Talk..."
www.nospank.net/pt2009.htm

2) "Sowing the seeds of sadomasochism"
www.nospank.net/badlesson.htm

3) "The Origin and True Purpose of the Paddle"
www.nospank.net/slavish2.pdf

4) "U.S. Schoolchildren's corporal punishment-related injuries"
www.nospank.net/injuredkids.pdf

I am a mother of 3 adults, a grandmother of 2 young children, and a retired university professor in early childhood education. As a former TN publc school teacher, I used corporal punishment(CP) once to no avail. I decided to find more effective methods to discipline and teach my children appropriate and desired behavior -- in school, at home, and in the community. I found those methods. CP does not discipline (teach). It only punishes. Children learn from strong, nurturant adults who model the behavior desired. An adult hitting (spanking) a child does not teach those desired behaviors.
*See www.stophitting.com
Also, the rod was used for guidance not as a striking instrument. Positive child guidance works in the classroom -- even without the support of parents! Using parents' inattention is not a reason for using CP in the schools. Many children -- with very caring, attentive parents who have high behavioral expectations of their children -- have experienced CP. Using CP in the schools is an easy way out for teachers. I've observed that. I've experienced it. I've studied it. I have taught pre-service teachers about it. There are better ways.

Far too many individuals have been brought up with parents using some form of hitting because their parents didn't know how to use other forms of teaching. These individuals have associated their good outcomes with parental spanking. Unfortunately, the mind-body process makes these types of associations. There are many good young people today who never had a hand laid on them. There are also many good young adults today who believe their parents and teachers were abusive. Kids don't misbehave because they want to be "bad." They don't think like adults; they take chances; they believe what they do is funny; or they simply can't accomplish the task demanded in the format demanded. This does not change the fact that children would like parents to be pleased with them, and in school, children perform well if they can. It is this desire to please and desire to do well in school that needs to be used to understand behavior and to redirect the behavior. Children with specific types of skill differences, particularly those with low frustration tolerance and those with high anxiety will be a great risk for not complying with the expectations of individual teachers. Positive behavioral supports will be thrown out the door quickly with what teachers and administrators believe will be a fast acting remedy. Opinions offered without knowledge of the fact that disabilities as well as poor parenting can manifest the same symptom behaviors, increase the danger of educators and parents making harmful mistakes when working with children.

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Wonderful suggestion. By all means bring back progressive corporal punishment. But why stop at spanking. Lets also allow caning. Especially, against females who refuse to cover themselves under a head to toe burka or go outside their home without a male's permission.

Then again why even have schools at all if we are going to propose such inane possibilities. We will elect conservative leaders who will do all our thinking for us so we will have no need for an education.

Please spare me from such stupid surveys.

if it reaches a point where it is to be applied, the parents should be required to be in attendance. Before it's applied, the Principal should read the file aloud just like they do when executing a prisoner.

Let the parents hear the school's view of Little Johnnie's behaviour before he or she gets their approved number of wacks.

There's one of the problems with the school system today. Far too many parents are absent when their wayward offspring msibehaves.

In another age, we had corporal punishment at school. That was a piece of cake compared to the reception you would receive when you got home. Good Parenting begins at home; it's not something which parents should lob off onto the school system.

Spanking should be left to the parents; the idea that this could be re-instated in public schools is an absolutely Draconian thing. This kind of punishment is a Parent's job.