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High speed chase ends in Wilmington

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WILMINGTON -- Two women led police on a high speed chase through three counties Sunday afternoon. Police say 23-year-old Kenyetta Dowe was driving 115 miles an hour toward Wilmington on Highway 17. The driver and passenger were two women wanted for larceny in Jacksonville. The 23- and 21-year-old women allegedly stole a TV and other electronics from a Jacksonville Circuit City. The 30-minute chase down Route 17 ended when the driver ran a red light at the intersection of Martin Luther King Parkway and got hit by another car. Three other cars then collided with each other. One woman was taken to the hospital to get checked for minor injuries, but nobody was seriously injured. Sergeant Randy Moreau of the North Carolina Highway Patrol says Highway Patrol arrested the driver for the chase and the Jacksonville Police Department will charge both women with larceny. He said, "The people that were running, I would just have to say that they got lucky. Our trooper, he stayed in control of what he was doing, made sure the public was at safety at all cost and I think he did a good job." Sergeant Moreau says the Highway Patrol's training helped prevent any other accidents. The two women were taken to the Onslow County jail. Dowe is facing multiple charges, including speeding, reckless driving and failure to stop for a siren. She's in jail under $15,500 bond.

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Agree on something

After reading all of this, I think we can agree on one thing. Chases are dangerous. Bottom line. You won't stop chases. As long as the bad guys run, good guys are gonna chase. It's an endless cycle. Judgment of the officers involved AT THAT TIME is paramount. It is very easy to sit back and play armchair quarterback and find everything the officers did wrong. I am a cop and proud of it. I have chases more than one car in my 10 years. I am not about to sit here and second guess what another officer did when I wasn't there to see it for myself. Some of you may want to do the same.

I just wanted to say thank

I just wanted to say thank you to all those in law enforcement for protecting me and my family everyday!!! People that disagree with the way things are handled have every right to become a law enforcement member and work towards what they truely believe. If that had been their personal property, something truely meaningful to them , I am sure they would have a different view point. You have to remember, the 2 women stealing..it was them who were speeding, and it was them who caused the crash, NOT the police. Even if they were not being chased I am sure they still would have been speeding in order to get as far away from where they were as fast as they could. I am glad that everyone was ok. And I am glad they caught them. Merry Christmas Everyone!!!

GUESTMAT, YOU SAID WE LIVE

GUESTMAT, YOU SAID WE LIVE FOR THE EXCITEMENT OF A GOOD CAR CHASE AND THAT IS WHY THERE ARE 10 TO 12 CARS IN A CHASE? THE FIRST CAR IS THE 'PRIMARY' CAR, WHICH MEANS ALL THEY DO IS FOLLOW THE SUSPECT, THE SECOND CAR HANDLES ALL THE RADIO TRAFFIC. THE OTHER CARS ARE THERE BECAUSE THE CHASE WILL END AT SOME POINT, AND WHEN IT DOES WE MIGHT NEED BACKUP. WE HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE WE ARE CHASING, AND SHOULD THEY STOP AND PULL OUT A GUN, THEN WE CAN BE COMFORTED BY THE FACT THAT WE HAVE MORE. I HAVE BEEN IN A FEW CHASES, AND NONE OF THEM HAVE HAD 12 CARS, HELL WE ARE LUCKY IF WE CAN GET ONE OR TWO MORE CARS WITH US BEFORE THE CHASE ENDS. ON THE CHASES THAT I HAVE INITIATED I HAVE HAD NO CARS IN PURSUIT BEHIND ME, THE THREE CARS THAT WERE MY BACKUP GOT TO ME AFTER I HAD THE SUSPECT IN CUSTODY, AND THEY WERE A MIXTURE OF THREE DIFFERENT LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. AND WHOEVER MENTIONED SHOOTING OUT A TIRE OR ROADBLOCKS, JUST BE AWARE THAT THOSE ARE BOTH DEADLY FORCE APPLICATIONS. I AM TALKING ABOUT A ROADBLOCK WITH PATROL CARS PARKED IN THE ROAD, NOT A ROLLING ROADBLOCK. A TRUE ROADBLOCK IS NOT LAWFUL UNLESS DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED TO STOP THE CHASE. AND I AM NOT SURE WHAT AGENCIES YALL ARE SPEAKING OF, BUT MY DEPARTMENT PUTS SHOTGUNS AND SPIKE STRIPS IN EVERY CAR

Chase

I have been involved in ALOT more than 2 chases in my 25 year career in law enforcement. Most of those guys would run over their own Mother to get to a chase. A friend of mine and his wife were in the first car hit by the suspect vehicle. He said he counted 12 law enfoecement vehicles pull up to the scene from 4 different agencies. I am not saying there is never a need to chase a suspect but you have to weigh the safety of the public and the officers. If it is so safe why can't I drive a 100 mph on Market Street? I have the same training those officers have.

Matt...I didn't know we had

Matt...I didn't know we had 4 different agencies in this county that would respond to that location. You say there were 12 vehicles that pulled up to that scene. That doesn't mean there were 12 vehicles involved in the chase. More than likely you would have a couple NCHP vehicles and a couple Deputy vehicles. Either way, it's always better to have more officers than needed than to wait for help when you really need it. Who's to say those two girls didn't have weapons on them. Maybe there were guys in the vehicle as well. There could have been 4 people in that vehicle instead of just the two. As far as spike strips and shotguns, NHSO doesn't have spike strips in their vehicles and the shotguns are locked up in the trunk. I have no idea what the HP has. And like the other poster said, a roadblock may only be used in situations where deadly force may be used. So that throws out the idea of trying to stop the suspects at a roadblock

Real cop here

Remember the chase proceeded through THREE counties. So let me help you out here. Onslow Co. SO, New Hanover Co. SO, WPD, NCHP = FOUR agencies. By the way she has no insurance so guess who will pick up the tab on all the damage caused? If I was the Onslow deputies Captain he/she would have some VERY hard questions to answer. We are very lucky no one in the public or law enforcement was not injuried or killed.

Think again

Those that were involved in the chase from a different county would back off once the chase entered a new county and those officers took over the chase. They may still follow, from a distance, the chase, but won't use lights and sirens. Therefore, you won't have 4 agencies involved in the chase in NHC.

Matt who?

A real cop would already know that. Don't you think?

What a waste of human life

This girl has been arrested over 30 times...something has to give. Hopefully she will steal from the wrong person and they will take matters into their own hands.

stolen video component!

good thing they didn't call in the new hanover county sheriffs emergency response team. all they would have needed was a meat wagon and a couple of body bags. rip peyton.

ERT Team

I would rather have the Deputies take them out than have them endangering everyone they meet on the road, going over 90 miles per hour on a Sunday afternoon on Market Street.

If only!

You nailed the exact area where law enforcement needs to loosen up, and that is in the application of deadly force to end one of these chases. When it became apparent that these two violent criminals were heading for an urban area with heavy traffic, a judiciously applied shotgun blast administered to the rear tire on the four-lane South of Hampstead would likely have ended the chase. Even then, there would be no guarantee that she might not have killed someone when she lost control of the car. Had someone actually taken that shot, however, under current rules he or she would most likely be suspended or fired. Plus, few units have shotguns.....or a second officer in the passenger seat to take the shot. So the chases aren't ending anytime soon....

not worth it

After reading the articles (comments) I felt I had to say something, first I was an EMT in North Carolina for four years and saw action in this time, so I do know a little about this stuff… mostly the cleanup at the end. Secondly the chase started at Holly Ridge, not from the store. The officer had to know there was no one hurt in the store and he was chasseing them for a stolen TV set. There was no need for a high-speed pursuit especially for that distance. There are many other ways to stop them including call ahead and wait for them once you have the tag numbers. And by the way to the comment about being a victim been-there done that… and what about the victims of the chase, the loss there was a lot worse then a couple of hundred dollars.

Not worth it?

You just stick to bandaids and leave law enforcement to the cops. What you call action is based on what has already happened. Until you want to step up and pin a badge on, sit back and wait until the scene is secured....as usual.

Is stealing a television a felony?

'Nuff said! BTW, unless you keep the vehicle under observation continually, the ol' "wait for 'em at home" does not work. That's especially true if they ditch the evidence. It's then too easy to claim that someone else had borrowed the car while you were visiting a friend. In an age when everyone carries a cellphone, they can line up an airtight, verifiable alibi before you can even GET to the address on the registration....and odds say, that's NOT where they live any more. These people move with the frequency and speed of the cockroaches they are.

Potentially killing an

Potentially killing an innocent victim right before Christmas speeding down busy market street is too dangerous both by the criminals and police. There are other alternatives other than endangering innocent motorist on the road, with a high speed chase. Someone getting killed IS NOT WORTH THE RISK PERIOD, all for a stolen TV gimme a break.

Please tell us the alternatives

Let me cover a few bases: Get the tag number: "Sorry officer, I lent my car to Latisha. No, I don't know her last name. She live over near Sonic somewhere. She bring me the car back and I figure everything gonna be okay." (You and I know it's a load of bovine droppings, but all it takes is one sap on a jury to fall for the sob-story, and the criminal walks...plus the state wasted a lot of money.) Use a helicopter: You have to have a helicopter up and operation 24x7 to facilitate that. LAPD and NYPD can afford several helicopters and dozens of pilots, to make sure that there's someone in the air at all times. We can't. The fact that we now have *A* helicopter means that with prior planning, or if we get lucky and a crime goes down while the bird is in the air, the helicopter can assist. With one helicopter, we can't make that our primary method of engagement on a fleeing suspect. They rarely call and say, "Better get the bird up, I'm about to go rob a bank." Let detectives trace the merchandise when it surfaces: Great idea. It worked all the time on Dragnet. Unfortunately, the ratio of crimes to investigators has changed substantially since Joe Friday retired. Sometimes it seems as if they never hired anyone since he retired. Detectives rarely have time to ivestigate isolated property crimes, and it's not because no one views them as important. It's a matter of priorities and case load. Plus, what makes you think the evidence is going to surface, or be identifiable if it does? "Merry Christmas, Mama! I got you a new TV!" (We may never see it again.) Care to guess how long it takes a big-box store to produce the serial number of a stolen TV that was on display....IF they can even do it? No one wants to see a civilian or a fellow officer injured or killed, but we accept that there are risks involved in any job dedicated to keeping society from sliding into total anarchy. You have to accept that occasionally an innocent civilian is caught in a dangerous situation because of criminal activity, but don't blame us for doing the job you hired us to perform. So forget about Christmas (which has absolutely nothing to do with it, as law enforcement doesn't modify tactics for the season) and tell us about the alternatives to simply going after the bad guys. I'm all ears.

Let me cover a few

Let me cover a few bases: Officer: Are you Mr Truth-Hurtz? Do you have a wife Mrs Truth-hurtz? Truth-Hurtz: uh yes officer I do Officer: Well sir I'm sorry to inform you that your wife was involved in an automobile accident today and she did not make it. I'm very sorry. Truth-Hurtz: What? how did this happen? Officer: Well we were chasing a criminal down Market St who stole a TV, that person lost control of their vehicle and ran head on into your wife. We apprehended the criminal shortly thereafter and recovered the stolen plasma TV it was broken though. Truth-Hurtz: Well at least you apprehended that criminal officer. Think before you type because sometimes the truth really does hurt. :(

Wow! Great drama!

I note, however, that you offer no alternatives, no options on how to apprehend the criminal without pursuing them. Thanks for proving that empty barrels DO make the most noise.

you are simply full of

you are simply full of soliloquies I see. I also notice that you yourself offer no alternatives. I would love to see the alternatives your crafty brain comes up with. If you read my other posts I attempt to provoke a thought process by offering my humble suggestions. Please tell us all how my suggestions are wrong and how yours are far superior. If ever you would like to meet and talk over views please message me personally as I would enjoy discussing local politics with you. :)

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Sorry

I have now changed my account to accept emails Thanks Nurse

Potentially risking innocent

Potentially risking innocent peoples lives with a high speed chase over 3 counties for a TV? Are you serious? They could have slowed down, called ahead, set up road spikes, shot a tire out before traffic congestion, surround the car on 3 sides make it stop. They had 3 counties to do this. Police risking their lives is different they chose their profession, I'm out driving with my wife and kids I don't want to die because some chick stole a TV in Jacksonville!

just a question

No slam or insult S.W. but are you a liberal by any chance?

Thanks for asking

Thanks for asking. I'm registered independent. I have some thoughts that you would consider liberal viewpoints as well as some views that you would consider conservative viewpoints. I keep up with conservative radio/tv as well as liberal radio/tv. I don't blindly follow any ideology as I think no party has all the answers but they each have something to offer. I hope this cleared it up for you.

Yep

Yes, it does. Thanks for the answer Wagg

With a capital "L"

Guesty, why would you ask such a silly question?

It would expalin

Then it could explain his/her thought process a little better.

SW...do you know the HP's

SW...do you know the HP's policy as far as road blocks? Surrounding a vehicle to get them to stop is a form of a road block and must fit the guidelines the HP uses. I'm asking because I don't know. I do know they are not allowed to shoot out the tires. Shooting at the tires is an act of deadly force, if they are in a situation where they can shoot out the tires, they might as well be shooting at the suspects.

Great ideas

But you might want to check out current policies toward shooting at or from a moving vehicle. Also, care to guess how many units carry spike strips....or shotguns? Sure - it would be great if we could end every high speed chase before anyone gets hurt, but things aren't all set up, ready to go. Things don't always fall into place, like on TV. You use the assets and skills that are available and resident at the time they are needed. If you want a helicopter crew on standby, you have to pay them to be on standby. (If you want to make sure the helicopter is always available, you'd better buy a second helicopter, too. You'd be surprised at the ratio of maintenance hours to flight hours.) If you want every county and police vehicle to be equipped with spike strips or mobile barriers, you have to pay for them....and the training. If you want to make sure there are officers available to assist at every minute of every day, you're going to be hiring more officers and buying more cars. If you want every single officer trained on the PIT maneuver, you'll be paying to send them all to pursuit training. There's no free lunch, so you'd better reach for the checkbook and be prepared to write some big numbers. Remember too, that regardless of how much money is spent and how well trained every single officer and deputy is, something can always go wrong, and an innocent party can always be killed or injured. BTW, in case you didn't realize it, by your proposals on how to end a chase, even YOU are unconsciously admitting the need to go after these people. We can't just let them take off and know they're getting away. The lead trooper in this chase did a great job, and he deserves our thanks.