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Medina-Ruiz is looking for help as his ploy to get deported backfires

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A man accused of holding up a New Hanover County convenience store Friday said he was only looking for a way back to Mexico. With no money to travel there on his own, he took a desperate measure in hopes of getting sent back. Jose Luis Medina-Ruiz is sitting in the New Hanover County Jail, after two attempts to hold up a clerk at the Scotchman on Carolina Beach Road. He used a plastic gun and didn't even accept the money from the clerk He said he wanted to get the attention of the police, in hopes of getting deported to Mexico. He got their attention; the 36 year-old faces several charges including attempted robbery and 2nd degree kidnapping. Medina-Ruiz, who is in the US illegally, said he does not have the money to go to Mexico on his own, and was hoping his ploy would be just the ticket. Judi Nelson works at the Scotchman that was held up and said she has been told by her co-workers just how traumatic of an experience it was for them. "It really sounded real, even, because he cocked the gun when he had it to his neck," she said. Medina-Ruiz said he is not happy with how the situation played out, and is just looking for any help he can get. Medina-Ruiz said he approached a police officer a few weeks ago in hopes of getting some help, but was told there was nothing that the officer could do for him. Even if he is eventually deported, it w ill not be any time soon, because of all the charges he now faces here.

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send him back

Do Not Pass Go; Do Not Collect $200. This is a no brainer. Put him on a bus to Mexico or send him to the Embassy in DC. Cost is far less than the cost of trial, cost of pre-trial incarceration, cost of active jail term. Do the Math

Send him back....

Toy Gun $2.00 Plane Ticket to Mexico = $150 Getting one less ILLEGAL immagrant off of American soil and not paying for him to sit in jail = PRICELESS SEND HIM BACK... Our tax dollars can be better spent then paying for him to be fed and clothed in jail!!!!

What about th White guy

All of you are so hateful and ridiculous, you sent a lots of comments about this incident which I repudiate, but ZERO comment about the story of the White dude from Charlotte(posted in this same website) who made threats to the president of the United States.... I guess that didn't call your attention did it. Just the word Mexican,Hispanic, Foreigner,etc. is in your moral dictionary.

He is a legal citizen

The "white guy" is in jail and will be dealt with. The illegal alien will be dealt with now that he has broken more laws, he should have been dealt with long before he had a chance to break MORE laws. I don't care if they are purple with polka dots, ALL illegal invaders should be deported.

Thanks for the first comment about the White guy

Legal or not he threat the life of the president of the united states sir, the crime is a lot worse and not one comment?, that is the fact don't hide it. Hate will take you nowhere sir.


the heck does race have to do with the issue? People like you do nothing but try to stir up racial tensions. The issue is not the crime. The issue is an illegal immigrant. If you want to bring race into it, do so in a manner that is relevant and appropriate. You show advanced signs of deadness of the brain.

So a threat is worse...

...than armed robbery, Kidnapping, pointing a gun (toy or not) the clerk didn't know that. No on is hiding anything. The "white guy" is in jail and facing charges too as he should be. Illegal immigration is the issue here. What don't you understand about ILLEGAL.

Yes is worse

It is worse when you are talking about the president of the United States, the guy bought a Rifle to do it sir not a toy, he even said that "he hated Obama with a passion" and most importantly he threat to harm the first African American president of this country and his wife that have nothing to do with his politics so this guy means harm just because he is black sir, he did it because of his race most likely and my point continues to be NO ONE COMMENT, yes many of the people that comment about "Illegals" in this website are doing it because the "Illegals" looks different because they do not speak their language and have a different culture. You are going to have to learn that there is other world out of NC, it doesn't mean it's better everywhere but there is progress, intelligence and prosperity with more tolerance (Please at this point don't tell me to move to those areas because I'm not going anywhere, there is a lot of people that do not think like you here in NC),Just yesterday a new report shows that only one quarter of the detainees from last year raids were not criminal and have not record, and the propaganda of the raids was to capture criminal aliens but as you can see that never happened and separation of families occurred. What is worse is that the report said that a quote was given to the agents to carry out their raids.But we know really well what we are facing, the same treatment that other minorities received in the south in the past, and some other parts of the country but believe me, we know that is hard to put away centuries of hatefulness, ignorance and arrogance of SOME people here in the south.

In your biased opinion, sir.

The "white guy' you gripe about plead guilty in federal court and will probably be sent to federal prison AS HE SHOULD BE. What more do you want to be said? You expect us LEGAL American's to keep quite about ILLEGAL aliens so it won't draw any more attention to the FACT that these people (no matter what country they are from) come here ILLEGALLY and do as they damn well please while draining our hospitals, schools, welfare system, jails and everything else that LEGAL Americans fought and died for. You want them to have a free ride and to be treated differently than everyone else don't you sir. Let me set the record straight on Barack Obama being African-American. It is a painful curiosity that racial stereotyping is always dominated by the non-Caucasian parentage, so Obama is identified racially by his dark skin. Where does this come from? His mother, Ann Dunham, was a white mid-westerner. His father, Barack Obama Sr., was a Luo from Kenya. Barack Obama's skin colour doesn't therefore make him an African-American. As far as your comment; "we know really well what we are facing, the same treatment that other minorities received in the south in the past, and some other parts of the country but believe me, we know that is hard to put away centuries of hatefulness, ignorance and arrogance of SOME people here in the south". Your own "hatefulness, ignorance and arrogance" shines brightly. Sir.

Bottom line

You are the one with biased opinion sir, I'm in now way promoting undocumented aliens to come to this country without proper permission and to brake the law, but I do not agree with all of your opinion about the way to handle the problem, there are approximately 12 million undocumented aliens in this country and the vast majority are lawful citizens, they are parents, brothers, sons and daughters. Separation of families occur on daily basis and is creating a second class citizens, I always agree that criminal aliens should be deal with the proper law, meaning deportation or incarceration but for you is better to call them criminals in general without seen the whole picture, thanks to some people with sensitivity in the past, the Jews, Italians and Irish were treated fairly and that is probably why you are here. I stick with the fact that here in the south the reaction against minorities is bias, unjust, with prejudice, and in some cases racist, you can't have a fair opinion in this matter because you are not the one that goes to a Pharmacy and been ask if you are legal, see hateful people on the food market that wants to kill you with the eyes,etc,etc,etc. I'm a US Citizen like you and pay taxes like you, and probably like you with ZERO criminal record. Yes I'm not using race as excuse but you guys continue to denied the extend of a racial problem in this area so called "Bible Belt". Yes, people that goes Sunday to church and hate other races in the afternoon, yes hate in the bible means "Love less" and that is exactly what some do.

the bottom line with

you is you are one who throws race out as an issue. When you do so on issues which have no racial relevance you do so merely to create racial tensions. In that, I would suggest you are no better than members of the KKK who used white supremacy as a means to terrorize society. Why are you clouding the issue? And if you are going to state something as a fact; then be accurate. 12,000,000 is such a low ball number for the actual number of ILLEGAL immigrants in this country, it makes your entire post a joke. For goodness sake, there are over 12,000,000 just in California you knucklhead. This has nothing to do with hate or race. Our country is in default on so many obligations it is ridiculous. Our economy is in the toilet. Our country can not afford to provide health care, section 8 housing, food stamps, free education, and so forth to illegal immigrants. Heck, the country can not afford to provide those services for the folks who are citizens and are entitled to those benefits. Why should our citizens be forced to press 1 for English or 2 for Spanish? If someone is coming to this country let them do so in a legal manner and let them learn English. Let the illegal immigrants go back to their native country; and allow their native country to provide them with all of the freebies they seem to feel they are entitled to here.

Your Rose Colored Glasses

Please cite your source for these so called facts. Let's take an in depth look at the numbers: More than 43% of all Food Stamps issued are to illegal aliens. More than 41% of all unemployment checks issued in the United States are to illegal aliens. 12 Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens. (that's more than 21,900 murders by illegal aliens since September 11, 2001) 13 people per day are killed by illegal immigrants who drive under the influence of drugs or alcohol. An additional 4,745 premature deaths per year. 62% of all "undocumented immigrants" in the United States are working for cash and not paying taxes, predominantly illegal aliens, working without a green card. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens. 83% of warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens. 86% of warrants for murder in Albuquerque are for illegal aliens. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles, Phoenix, and Albuquerque are illegal aliens. More than 380,000 "anchor babies" born in the United States in 2005 were to parents who are illegal aliens; making those 380,000 babies automatically U.S. citizens. 97.2% of all costs incurred from those births were paid by the American taxpayer. More than 66% of all births in California are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers. 24.9% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally. 40.1% of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally. 48.2% of all inmates in New Mexico detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally. 29% (630,000) of the inmates in all state and federal prisons are illegal aliens—at a cost of $1.6 billion annually. More than 53% of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona, and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens. More than half of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens from south of the border. More than 43% of all Food Stamps issued are to illegal aliens. More than 41% of all unemployment checks issued in the United States are to illegal aliens. 58% of all welfare payments in the United States are issued to illegal aliens. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties in the United States are illegal aliens. 14 out of 31 TV stations in L.A. are Spanish-only. 16 out of 28 TV stations in Phoenix are Spanish only. 15 out of 24 TV stations in Albuquerque are Spanish-only. More than 34% of Arizona students in grades 1-12 are illegal aliens. More than 24% of Arizona students in grades 1-12 are non-English speaking. More than 39% of California students in grades 1-12 are illegal aliens. More than 42% of California students in grades 1-12 are non-English speaking. In Los Angeles County, 5.1 million people speak English and 3.9 million speak Spanish. More than 71% of all apprehended cars stolen in 2005 in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, and California were stolen by illegal aliens or transport "coyotes." 47% of cited/stopped drivers in California have no license, no insurance, and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 47%, 92% are illegal aliens. 63% of cited/stopped drivers in Arizona have no license, no insurance, and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 63%, 97% are illegal aliens. 66% of cited/stopped drivers in New Mexico have no license, no insurance, and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 66%, 98% are illegal aliens. Less than 2% of illegal aliens in the United States are picking crops, but 41% are on welfare. Over 70% of the United States annual population growth (and over 90% of California, Florida, and New York) results from illegal immigration, at a cost of nearly $68,000,000,000.00 annually. By the way, these satistics are from our own FBI, check it out for yourself if you could be open minded enough to pull those glasses off. And don't throw the race card out to me, it won't work. I married a woman who is of Spanish decent.

From Where?

woo I'm impress with your statistics from the Minute Man and Sheriff Arpaio, I don't care if you married La Chica del barrio, you are blaming one segment of the population for the society's problem. That is A LIE, but I insist inside of you is prejudice, arrogance and IGNORANCE.

you are

a chowder head; and that is being kind. Why is it predjudice and arrogance to ackowledge our Country has some significant financial issues? Why is it predjudice and arrogance to quote hard facts concerning the costs and impact of the illegal immigrants who are within our border? How is it arrogance and ignorance to suggest that our state and national budgets could get a big boost in the arm by sending all of the illegal immigrants back to their native countries? There is no blame being laid for society's problems. There is accountability for the costs imposed upon our Society by those who are here illegally. If they want to stay here, let them do so legally and let them learn English. If they can not do those 2 things, they have no business being here. Sounds like you may be one of them.

Again, Site Your Sources

Where oh where did I blame one segment of the population for the societies problem? Please tell oh great one who speaks with acid tongue? The stats I quoted were from the FBI, go call them racist.

Wrong sources

Your statistics can't be from the FBI sir, 43% of food stamps goes to "Illegal Aliens"? come on, NO immigrants qualifies for Food Stamp unless they have a green card for 5 years (1996 law sign by Clinton) and the people you are mistaken is undocumented aliens applying for their US Citizen kids at the local DSS, that alone tells me that your source is wrong and exaggerated like everything uninformed people like you state. Get used to it immigrants are part of the history of this country and like I said before if tomorrow they all come here legally you still won't like them because they look different than you, speak another language and have a different culture, come on admitted, you probably walk next to somebody speaking another language and you feel exasperated, that is what bothers you and that is even if the person is here legally or not.

Yes, I'm Biased

Legal - Illegal Law abiding citizen - Criminal My bottom line is, all people that are in this country ILLEGALLY should be deported. That includes Barack Obama's aunt that is in this country illegally. Keep splitting hairs and comparing apples to oranges, you won't change my mind.

Nobody will change you

I'm convince that I won't change you or people that think like you. Your own answer is the perfect clarification of my position. Gracias

So we agree

I believe in enforcing the law, you don't.

Me too

I agree, enforce the law to the employers, they are probably your partners, people you eat with or share your table. I hope you enjoy your vegetables harvested by "Illegal Aliens"

What would you do?

I'd really like to hear how you would handle immigration, seriously. Since you are so good at pointing out what is so bad about this country and making assumptions, please tell me what you would like us to do to appease you and you're undocumented/illegal friends that are probably sitting at your table. Maybe we should just open the borders and make everyone that comes, especially from Mexico, instant citizens. We'll do away with law enforcement since they are so racist against everyone but white skinned people. We'll give everyone free medical, schools, food...We've got an endless supply of money, plenty of jobs to go around and the economy is great. We'll make speaking English secondary to learning Spanish. We'll change all our signs to make it easier. Maybe we should just merge with Mexico and call us Americo. That way we could go over there if we wanted to buy some property, hold public office or even vote. Please enlighten me on how to be a better American so everyone can come and live FREE and happy in the good ole' USA.

I'm glad you let me explain

Thanks for the opportunity to express my opinion in this sensitive issue. First of all the solution is not easy and very complex, we need consensus and here are some suggestions: 1) Make an identification process with all the undocumented aliens (This procedure has been done in Europe), when they register check their background and all the aliens with criminal records pending should be put in deportation process, the one that already pay for their crime needs to probe good moral character, if he can't prove it deport them too. 2) Reinforce the border, we have available technology to do it. 3) Create programs to teach them English although some will try and never learn (That occur in any language) and this doesn't mean that they can't speak their native language on the job place or anywhere else unless doing it can be unsafe. 4) Getting them access to a social security # will make then easy for them to pay taxes. (As you can see lately even politicians violate this laws) and get them accountable like any other citizens if they don't do it. This shows you sir that I'm in NO WAY agreeing with criminal aliens or legal process but what I dislike about it is the rhetoric of demonizing another human being that is only trying to make a living and sustain their families.

with regards

to number 1, where will the funding come from? with regards to #-2, how about mirroring the immigration laws of Mexico? Would you think that's fair? We apply the same standards to illegal immigrants that Mexico applies to those found in Mexico illegally? Try to dodge around this one. with regards to #-3, programs are already out there. They fail to take advantage of them. with regards to #-4, will there be a moratorium on filing for benefits so they don't get a social security number one day and file for benefits the next? Why can'nt immigrants come to this country legally? Why can'nt they learn English? Why can'nt they learn our culture, history, and government? Seems the only part the illegals learn is how to file for benefits. Sorry Guest; but his statistics are accurate. There's a whole industry available to generate false social security cards and drivers licenses so the illegal immigrants can in fact file for and obtain all of the freebies they want. You need to get your facts straight.

SurfcityBoy we are getting somewhere

At least we can discuss the specificity of each point here is my reply to you: 1) You probably don't know this but USCIS is charging an exaggerated amount of $ for procedures including the one for Legal Aliens and they been widely criticizes for their inefficiency, but an alternative is like Sen.McCain proposed in year 2007 make then [ay a penalty to cover the cost. 2)I actually agree with you, Mexico treat the immigrants from central America very badly and in some cases inhumanely, but we are the United States of America we have superior standards. 3)I also agree with you, the local college teach English and other programs in their continuing education but historically in this area the approach to the Hispanic community is been ineffective with the exception of Colleges in Fayetteville, Brunswick County, Columbus County and others who runs Hispanic Initiative and collaboration and they have been able to successfully get GED graduates as well as short courses in occupational jobs. 4)If they pay taxes they should be able to received benefits if they qualified, that IS NOT the case now, they are not getting freebies like you said, most of them work with a fake social security and then they are unable to claim the tax return that leave an annual surplus of 5 billion dollars to SSA, they no not qualified for social security benefits on the other hand if you create way to legalized the 12 million undocumented aliens that qualified for this reform they don't need to get fake social security from the crooks.

Well BoyGuest

perhaps we are getting someplace 1. You diverge from the facts. Get it straight & be specific. 2. You admit Mexico treats its illegal immigrants much more severely then the US. But, Mexico does not limit its treatment to those from south of their border. They do not discriminate; if you're in their country illegally, it matters not the color of your skin or the nation from which you came. Tough times demand tough decisions. Our economy is in the tank. This country can not afford to continue supporting illegal immigrants. 3. You admit the opportunities are present for Hispanics to learn English. Yet you digress again. They do not take the time to learn. If the immigrants who go through the immigration process to become citizens, and that includes not only learning English but also taking courses in US Civics and Government, what is the excuse for these illegal immigrants to not take advantage of the opportunities? 4. Did you read what you wrote? They use a fake social security card. They must present a card when they go to work for a new employer. So we have an apparent attempt to defraud. I believe using a forged or false government document, and that is what a social security card is, is a felony. SO, now not only do we have them here illegally, they are using false documents. You just dug the hole deeper for them. For the record, walk into any public health facility in eastern North Carolina, any day of the week, and count the number of non-English speaking persons who have no insurance; do not pay cash for services; and receive free health care. Go to social services and count the number of Hispanic speaking individuals present, any day of the week, who are applying for benefits. Go into any Head Start Center and count the number of non-English speaking hispanics. Get your facts straight, and stick to specifics, if you're going to respond to one of my posts. You just strengthened the case for sending them back to their country of origin.

Sorry SurfCityTom not boy (My bad) answer

1)I didn't diverge from the fact, like I mention the issue is complex but like I said the cost could be cover by a penalty (McCain suggestion). All this is of course if you believe like I do that the immigrants can bring positive values to this country made of immigrants, other than the Indian Americans all of us are descendants of outsiders, but this diversity created a good country that still is heeling from slavery and civil war. Yes like I said good and productive immigrants not criminals will bring a positive outcome like they did historically including your ancestors. 2)This country may not be able to support undocumented criminal aliens, but immigrants working really hard usually in jobs nobody wants to do (i.e Agriculture)are actually supporting the economy so you and me can eat vegetables with very affordable prices. Let me be clear on this immigrants are not just from Mexico although I admit that every 10 Latinos 6 are from Mexico, they're other undocumented immigrants from Central and south America as well as Asia, Europe and Africa. MOST of then have in many cases equal or better level of education than many Americans so they can enrich our society. Remember Irish and Italians were treated like trash in this country and some at the time believed they will be a disaster to our culture and a parasite to the country but time proves them wrong. 3)May be you don't understand that working 10 or 14 hours a day or having 2 jobs leave a little time left for education, usually an American that works that many hours will be getting home drink a beer or share some good quality time with their family. Well Immigrants do that too plus get an education is hard sometimes, that is why the English course at the college are conducted in the evenings and weekends and Immigrants that attend those classes should be encourage by their perseverance. 4)THIS IS WERE YOU ARE EXTREMELY WRONG and this is why: a) I agree that using a false social security is illegal and I'm just stating something that is common knowledge, the problem is so deep that employers all over USA knows about the fake social security and the law has not been enforce to the workers or the employers the way it should be. b) On the other hand there is NOT such of case of undocumented immigrants getting freebies, they go to clinics and hospital because they get sick like anybody else and there is a lot of program for low income people in Community Health Centers and health dept. You see them at DSS applying for their kids although you may confuse the legal immigrants and even US Citizens with the undocumented because "they all just look alike". c)Head Star Center and only for legal immigrants kids or US Citizens born in USA. Do your homework their is not such of programs for kids of undocumented aliens if you can prove me that one exist please let me know. I don't forget they do pay sales taxes and do pay state and federal taxes using their fake SS# or an ITIN# expedited by IRS. Yes the the economy is bad but you should focus on all this crooks in financial institutions with their CEO's which created this crisis, there is EXXON making a record profit and the thieves and speculators in Wall Street are the ones to blame for this crisis and not the Undocumented Immigrants.

Oh yeah....great idea!

Send him back without facing any jail time for his illegal, life-endangering stunt. That way we can make sure that ANY time an illegal wants to return home, he'll simply terrify some poor store clerk to get his free airline ticket. "Why not? They won't send me to jail." A far better alternative would be to throw this guy in Raleigh Central for the absolute maximum time allowed under current sentencing laws, and make an example of him to the immigrant community. People need to know that there's no benefit for being stupid.


are we supposed to feel sorry for this sorry person? to all of you bleeding heart liberals get this-he should not have come here (to the U.S.) to begin with. now he's sitting in a jail cell and will probably end up in the federal pen for a couple of years where we the taxpayers will feed and clothe him. he won't get any sympathy from my family.

Prison For You Nacho

Send him to prison for 50 years and then send his sorry butt back to Mexico.