And still 72% say we should pursue Ripkens deal.
The ship (mandalay) has sunk
A new deal - a new day
Time to move forward with Ripken with or without Mandalay and the
I would support private funding for the stadium anywhere but the cityside of the river. I think across the river with river taxi service could be a big asset to downtown establishments.
Now we have a sample size even bigger than Civitas and the numbers are still blatantly AGAINST using taxpayer dollars. Even if all the undecideds voted yes it would still be a MANDATE against using taxpayer monies.
This tells us that the PPP poll was bad and they attempted a follow up in the hopes to change these numbers.
I don't believe they succeeded - otherwise hyphen lady at the Chamber and Duke would be dancing in the streets.
And please don't insult anyone's intelligence by saying its not done yet. PPP has the capability to give instantaneous gross results so that the ongoing polls can be expanded to a greater sampling number.
We won't hear about the poll though. The CoC said "it's private".
Of course all the poll was for was to tell them how to conduct their media campaign. So now what? I can see the Chamber now:
"Religion didn't work so don't bring up revivals"
"Economic impact didn't work don't bring up that"
"Having a city park didn't work don't bring up that"
"Changing it to "multi use facility" didn't work don't bring up that"
So try this:
Just have an old guy standing near the river, single tear streaming down his cheek. As he turns to the camera the words: "I just wanted a ball park no matter what" appear on the screen. (remember the old anti litter campaign with the American Indian?)
Its all they have left....
How about before adding a ballpark down town you address how people are going to get to and from this field. Where are they going to park and how are you going to direct traffic. From my experience you can not even handle the traffic on the 4th of July, let alone regular events downtown.
What traffic? No one will be going to the games in 95 degree heat, so no worries.
which Duke and his proponents can not deny. 76% favor private funding. Of course, the alternate option is appranetly looking at a site in New Hanover County which offers better road access.
Of course, that still leaves the owner of the river front parcel of land with the albatross still hanging around his neck.
If the city has a 'non taxpayer' option, don't you think they'd explore it. My question is, "Who's going to pay?"
I think we're jumping the gun here. If a firm offer was submitted to the county that would give us the ability to compare the two offers, then great.
This is just like striking at the wind.
We don't even know if this other entity is truly interested. At least I know that Mandalay is. Ripkin could say..oh here's a possibility, and then back out...perfect example...the many companies who promised to build the convention center hotel.
That RIPKEN is doing this for County?
Takes alot of leg-work.
More than just a design,you need a full fledged building/infrastructure study.
And Ripken can't do that until the referendum is voted down.
The city prematurely gave Mandalay the "franchise" tag.
The ONLY way we'll find out how much financing Ripkens got or what his design would be like is to REJECT the bond referendum
You DO see that don't you?
If you are "in the business" this is done daily,a competitive market analysis.
if I read correctly, Ripkin's proposal does not include a mandate that they would operate a team @ the site they would build. In fact, it appears they would be perfectly content to lease the ball park use to Mandalanta.
If I read correctly, their proposed site is across the river on 421. That should allow easier access to I-40 and I-440 as well as 17 South and 74/76.
That certainly takes the burden off the city property tax payers.
Of course, the owner of that over priced piece of river front real estate does not get to unload his albatross onto the City.
You win some; you lose some.
Some get rained out.
But you suit up for every game.
The BB55 project has my support so long as private funding covers it.(let Duke figure out what that means)
What a turn of events.
Ripken adds some baseball clout to the project far more name recognition than Mandalay has.
So "the battleship' way is what you desire?
he won't figure it out. I remain convinced he had some connection to the over priced parcel of river front land that he was so intent on helping the city take off the hands of the owner.
Far more talk than sizzle,I am still not convinced that RIPKEN will pursue this privately.
123 votes and that darned 80+% number is showing up again.
80% opposed to the Mandalay deal that is.
Hows that Chamber of Commerce poll going for you Duke?
You know - the one that asked if I'd go to a revival meeting if held in the stadium.........
The fate of the stadium and single-A team is up to the voters,not "pollsters".