Submitted by EveryWoman DeservesChoice (not verified) on Sun, 10/28/2012 - 10:45am.
START at 31:10 and you'll hear Thom Goolsby defending HB 854/S769 Abortion: Woman's Right to Know Act--and hear his support FOR required invasive trans-vaginal ultrasounds for women. Thom Goolsby is the liar, and it is despicable that he has paraded his family onto TV and made his wife lie for him to our community! ttp://www.wral.com/news/state/nccapitol/video/9735159/#/vid9735159
Submitted by Bev Jolly (not verified) on Tue, 10/16/2012 - 7:47am.
http://www.wral.com/asset/news/state/nccapitol/2012/10/11/11648230/10A_N...
Under DEMOCRATIC control in the NC Legislature (1977)-amended in 1994, please see the referenced link depicting the requirements in North Carolina administrative rules already directing abortion clinics to perform ultrasounds for any patient who is scheduled to have an abortion. Hospitals that may perform abortions must meet standards of care that would include some medical method to determine the gestational age, according to the state Department of Health and Human Services. This section applies to abortion clinics and specifically states: “an ultrasound examination shall be performed and the results posted in the patient’s medical record for any patient who is scheduled for an abortion procedure.”
Submitted by reality medicine (not verified) on Thu, 10/18/2012 - 2:29pm.
Deb Butler forgot to include pictures of all of the days of hemmoraging in her kitchen demonstration video.
http://www.choiceandhealth.com/abortionpill.htm "Abortion using the abortion pill requires at least two visits to our office. On the first visit, an ultrasound with a vaginal probe confirms the size of your pregnancy. After reviewing your medical history and answering your questions, we will give you a pill of mifepristone to take in the office. We will give you a second medication, misoprostol, to take home with you. You need to wait at least 24 hours to use the second medicine. You will insert these tablets into your vagina, or place them between your cheek and your gum, where they will be absorbed into your bloodstream. This will cause your uterus to contract, and you will have bleeding and cramping. "
Submitted by firefoxgirl (not verified) on Mon, 10/15/2012 - 3:46pm.
Sen. Goolsby should show the unborn baby pic the sonogram wand illuminates. All pregnant women have this wand used when they carry their baby to term. So it is only considered invasive when it shows you a baby you want to destroy? So, Sen. Goolsby, do a counter-ad that shows the wand and resulting baby pic THEN show an ABORTION SUCTION WAND that will also be inserted during the procedure; however, you will be dis-allowed from showing the results of that wand procedure because aborted baby parts are considered too offensive.
Submitted by Guestgal (not verified) on Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:07pm.
Politicians are not welcome in my private areas, physically OR legislatively. I was born with a brain that can make these type of decisions all on my own - I certainly don't need Thom Goolsby's assistance.
Submitted by Goody (not verified) on Fri, 10/19/2012 - 10:35am.
To the person who implied that Deb Butler could only do this because she had no children. You have no clue and you have never seen Deb with children. First of all, she is an ongoing presence of a fine young man who is now 16 and doing very well academically. She is amazing with my niece and nephew who both are special needs kids. In addition, her campaign team has a wonderful kid who also has special needs that is simply devoted to Deb. finally, take a look at the way she is able to bond with young adults who have whole heatedly supported her. Deb is a fantastic person who is much loved and respected by those who know her. You have absolutely no clue, whomever you are.
Submitted by obserber (not verified) on Mon, 10/15/2012 - 10:39am.
It seems absurd that Thom Goolsby is up over Deb Butler holding an invasive medical instrument that is used in a medical procedure. One that Goolsby helped push through the legislature. It was a partisan piece of legislation that Goolsby now has to answer for. Goolsby is no doctor and shouldn't be prescribing anything for for women or men. He is no saint and should not be legislating morals.
I'm upset that Goolsby has an ad where he talked about improving schools. My God! Does he believe that we don't check on anything he does. He has hurt the school system and the future of NC. Two good reasons to replace him as soon as possible.
Submitted by lee jefferson (not verified) on Mon, 10/15/2012 - 12:01am.
scare and fear. when your opponent uses that, only fools fall for it. America has become a foolish nation. at the democratic convention, one sandra fluke was in despair because when she attended georgetown university, she could not get free contraceptives and believes all universities should have them available, for free. no mention of free food or books, just contraceptives. wake up America, your freedom is being taken away alright.......but there is not a politician out there that can take away your reproductive rights. roe-vs wade was made law of the land by a supreme court made up of richard nixon appointees.
Submitted by Guest3232 (not verified) on Mon, 10/15/2012 - 10:06pm.
The issue is not 'free' contraception. The issue is the fact that women have to pay more than men do for their health care.
Fox "News" and other Conservative gasbags keep repeating the 'free contraception' myth so now it's a 'given fact' among those who are gullible enough to believe Fox 'News'
Submitted by Guest don squires (not verified) on Sat, 10/13/2012 - 11:52pm.
politicians should not dictate what medical procedures women have to get or anybody should get.if they can dictate what women must have ,what next for us all think before you vote
Submitted by Guestarticulatore (not verified) on Sat, 10/13/2012 - 12:24pm.
Sen. Goolsby was useful in the last election cycle, most particularly with respect to his efforts to end involuntary annexation.
Unfortunately, I will not vote for him again unless he denounces this disgusting invasion of a woman's privacy with a wand while she is seeking LEGAL medical services.
Sorry to not vote for you again, Thom but you got "killed" in a wreck at the intersection of fiscal and social conservatism.
Thanks for your work on involuntary annexation anyway!
Submitted by Guest3000 (not verified) on Sat, 10/13/2012 - 10:06am.
Doctors use transvaginal ultrasounds for a number of reasons - they are a useful tool for getting a very close picture of what is going on within a woman's reproductive system, including cysts, tumors, and very early pregnancy. However, doctors should be deciding when it is appropriate to use one, not Mr. Goolsby.
Submitted by Nurse Jan (not verified) on Sun, 10/14/2012 - 5:03pm.
It is the doctor and facility that chooses the ultrasound device they use, not Thom Goolsby or any legislator. The pregnant woman is getting exposed to multiple vaginal medical devices during an abortion, the wand is the least intrusive compared to the devices used to perform the abortion. This lady is obviously obsessed with female vaginal devices to portray herself in this manner on national tv.
Submitted by JLC (not verified) on Mon, 10/15/2012 - 2:30pm.
It's obviously Mr. Goolsby that is "Obsessed" with vaginal procedures! Get real. I'm not sure who noted this first, but if men got pregnant there clinics would be like Starbucks, two on every block and four at every airport terminal.
Submitted by GuestofReason (not verified) on Sat, 10/13/2012 - 8:08am.
One can argue the merits of legislation, on the merits. One can hold strong beliefs and opinions on either side of an issue.
However, in my opinion, introducing a medical instrument as a prop intended to shock contradicts the sober qualities of a leader and a legislator. By her actions, she has given lie to the notion that she is qualified to serve as a representative of the people of this district.
Submitted by GuestReasonable (not verified) on Mon, 10/15/2012 - 4:34pm.
Guest of Reason, it could be your wife, daughter or grand-daughter facing the use of "THAT" instrument. I am grateful for Butler stepping up and taking a stand on this! The real shock, GuestofReason is that this legislation is even being considered in the 21st century.
Submitted by Jordan (not verified) on Sat, 10/13/2012 - 2:41pm.
when the electorate chooses not to inform themselves on the facts of politicians' platforms, and instead lets themselves be misled by the fear and false outrage of the right wing media, sometimes it takes a stunt just to get attention and show people what it is they are really voting for.
Submitted by Guestso (not verified) on Sat, 10/13/2012 - 12:05am.
I had this instrument used on me for medical purposes; it was not a pleasant experience. Men that make laws that invade a woman's body need to get their feet in the stirrups. Goolsby a big NO from me. Thanks Deb Butler for showing what instrument will be used in a transvaginal ultrasound.
Submitted by Bev Jolly (not verified) on Fri, 10/12/2012 - 10:55pm.
Funny, women who do not want women to have the right and access to know all information to make an informed consent on a medical procedure - abortion - that will affect the rest of their lives and involves killing an innocent unborn baby. Planned Parenthood uses ultrasounds to assist with abortions, but the pro-choice community refuses to allow all women to see what they see. Why????? Same tool used for diagnosing ovarian cancer or WANTED PREGNANCIES??? Ironic, isn't it? We are pro-life, pro-woman, pro-family, pro-child and believe all women have rights! Women deserve better! TRUTH!
Submitted by Kate (not verified) on Sat, 10/13/2012 - 4:00pm.
Truth is... introducing foreign objects into women's vaginas increases the risk of infection. A woman's health is a doctor's first priority. The fetus,should the woman carry the pregnancy to term, is now also at an increased risk. It's a bad,bad law. Plus, I've realized Thom Goolsby IS a transvaginal wand. AKA Prick
Submitted by MamaB (not verified) on Fri, 10/12/2012 - 8:23pm.
This is basic health care equipment. Noone should have a problem with a medical instrument being used in an advertisement this way. It's not like they're showing it being shoved up a crying pregnant woman's junk after she's decided to terminate her pregancy for her own private, legitimate reasons (which is more like what it would actually look like). If Goolsby & his supporters are so proud of his position, why should it be a problem for the public to know what, exactly, he supports? They show mammogram machines and tampons on TV all the time, so it can't be because ladies' mess shouldn't be in the public purview.
Submitted by MarkB (not verified) on Fri, 10/12/2012 - 7:57pm.
It's a bit of the old in out/in out if you ask me. If Thom wants this fine piece of medical equipment to be put in, why should Deb cut the ad out? What a stupid and tasteless question anyway! It's a piece of equipment for goodness sakes. It's not nearly as disgusting as a Kardassian, Paris Hilton, Donald Trump, or Romney/Ryan! Vote Deb Butler!
Submitted by Guestarticulatore (not verified) on Sat, 10/13/2012 - 12:27pm.
MarkB, I am voting for Ms. Butler and am pleased to do so. I could change my mind if Goolsby would consent to having one of these devices rammed up his "you know what".
Submitted by B. Porter (not verified) on Fri, 10/12/2012 - 6:41pm.
Unless a woman has had to have a transvaginal ultrasound for as medically necessary procedure to diagnose a condition/illness, she has not seen one, and men outside the medical field, don't want to see one. Sure, she should use it in her ad. I'm a supporter of transparency, so let his supporters see the medically unnecessary piece of equipment he would use to violate women.
Submitted by Pythia (not verified) on Fri, 10/12/2012 - 5:11pm.
It is absolutely appropriate. For those who don't what a transvaginal ultrasound wand is, this ad will be an education. Anyone with half a brain should be appalled that Goolsby thinks he has any business legislating women's pelvic exams. Shame on him and good on Deb Butler.
Submitted by KFowler (not verified) on Fri, 10/12/2012 - 4:31pm.
So let me get this straight, it's okay for women to be forced to have this instrument put inside their most private area (unnecessarily, might I add) but it's not okay for men to have to look at it in a stupid tv ad (which they have the right to look away from or turn off)? How does that even KIND OF make sense??
START at 31:10 and you'll
START at 31:10 and you'll hear Thom Goolsby defending HB 854/S769 Abortion: Woman's Right to Know Act--and hear his support FOR required invasive trans-vaginal ultrasounds for women. Thom Goolsby is the liar, and it is despicable that he has paraded his family onto TV and made his wife lie for him to our community! ttp://www.wral.com/news/state/nccapitol/video/9735159/#/vid9735159
Really!!!
http://www.wral.com/asset/news/state/nccapitol/2012/10/11/11648230/10A_N...
Under DEMOCRATIC control in the NC Legislature (1977)-amended in 1994, please see the referenced link depicting the requirements in North Carolina administrative rules already directing abortion clinics to perform ultrasounds for any patient who is scheduled to have an abortion. Hospitals that may perform abortions must meet standards of care that would include some medical method to determine the gestational age, according to the state Department of Health and Human Services. This section applies to abortion clinics and specifically states: “an ultrasound examination shall be performed and the results posted in the patient’s medical record for any patient who is scheduled for an abortion procedure.”
abortion pill process requires ultrasound wand before and after
Deb Butler forgot to include pictures of all of the days of hemmoraging in her kitchen demonstration video.
http://www.choiceandhealth.com/abortionpill.htm "Abortion using the abortion pill requires at least two visits to our office. On the first visit, an ultrasound with a vaginal probe confirms the size of your pregnancy. After reviewing your medical history and answering your questions, we will give you a pill of mifepristone to take in the office. We will give you a second medication, misoprostol, to take home with you. You need to wait at least 24 hours to use the second medicine. You will insert these tablets into your vagina, or place them between your cheek and your gum, where they will be absorbed into your bloodstream. This will cause your uterus to contract, and you will have bleeding and cramping. "
baby wand
Sen. Goolsby should show the unborn baby pic the sonogram wand illuminates. All pregnant women have this wand used when they carry their baby to term. So it is only considered invasive when it shows you a baby you want to destroy? So, Sen. Goolsby, do a counter-ad that shows the wand and resulting baby pic THEN show an ABORTION SUCTION WAND that will also be inserted during the procedure; however, you will be dis-allowed from showing the results of that wand procedure because aborted baby parts are considered too offensive.
Politics
Politicians are not welcome in my private areas, physically OR legislatively. I was born with a brain that can make these type of decisions all on my own - I certainly don't need Thom Goolsby's assistance.
deb butler has no children, has never been a parent
only a candidate who has never been a parent or ever had a child could stoop to this type of crass advertising stunt
Response
To the person who implied that Deb Butler could only do this because she had no children. You have no clue and you have never seen Deb with children. First of all, she is an ongoing presence of a fine young man who is now 16 and doing very well academically. She is amazing with my niece and nephew who both are special needs kids. In addition, her campaign team has a wonderful kid who also has special needs that is simply devoted to Deb. finally, take a look at the way she is able to bond with young adults who have whole heatedly supported her. Deb is a fantastic person who is much loved and respected by those who know her. You have absolutely no clue, whomever you are.
Medical Procedures
It seems absurd that Thom Goolsby is up over Deb Butler holding an invasive medical instrument that is used in a medical procedure. One that Goolsby helped push through the legislature. It was a partisan piece of legislation that Goolsby now has to answer for. Goolsby is no doctor and shouldn't be prescribing anything for for women or men. He is no saint and should not be legislating morals.
I'm upset that Goolsby has an ad where he talked about improving schools. My God! Does he believe that we don't check on anything he does. He has hurt the school system and the future of NC. Two good reasons to replace him as soon as possible.
boo
scare and fear. when your opponent uses that, only fools fall for it. America has become a foolish nation. at the democratic convention, one sandra fluke was in despair because when she attended georgetown university, she could not get free contraceptives and believes all universities should have them available, for free. no mention of free food or books, just contraceptives. wake up America, your freedom is being taken away alright.......but there is not a politician out there that can take away your reproductive rights. roe-vs wade was made law of the land by a supreme court made up of richard nixon appointees.
The issue is not 'free'
The issue is not 'free' contraception. The issue is the fact that women have to pay more than men do for their health care.
Fox "News" and other Conservative gasbags keep repeating the 'free contraception' myth so now it's a 'given fact' among those who are gullible enough to believe Fox 'News'
Deb Butler telling it how it is!
She has the guts to tell this story. Shame on Gooslby
womens health care
politicians should not dictate what medical procedures women have to get or anybody should get.if they can dictate what women must have ,what next for us all think before you vote
Sen. Goolsby was useful in
Sen. Goolsby was useful in the last election cycle, most particularly with respect to his efforts to end involuntary annexation.
Unfortunately, I will not vote for him again unless he denounces this disgusting invasion of a woman's privacy with a wand while she is seeking LEGAL medical services.
Sorry to not vote for you again, Thom but you got "killed" in a wreck at the intersection of fiscal and social conservatism.
Thanks for your work on involuntary annexation anyway!
Healthcare: between a woman and her doctor
Doctors use transvaginal ultrasounds for a number of reasons - they are a useful tool for getting a very close picture of what is going on within a woman's reproductive system, including cysts, tumors, and very early pregnancy. However, doctors should be deciding when it is appropriate to use one, not Mr. Goolsby.
the law doesnt say the wand it says obstetrical real-time view
It is the doctor and facility that chooses the ultrasound device they use, not Thom Goolsby or any legislator. The pregnant woman is getting exposed to multiple vaginal medical devices during an abortion, the wand is the least intrusive compared to the devices used to perform the abortion. This lady is obviously obsessed with female vaginal devices to portray herself in this manner on national tv.
Wrong
It's obviously Mr. Goolsby that is "Obsessed" with vaginal procedures! Get real. I'm not sure who noted this first, but if men got pregnant there clinics would be like Starbucks, two on every block and four at every airport terminal.
Merits
One can argue the merits of legislation, on the merits. One can hold strong beliefs and opinions on either side of an issue.
However, in my opinion, introducing a medical instrument as a prop intended to shock contradicts the sober qualities of a leader and a legislator. By her actions, she has given lie to the notion that she is qualified to serve as a representative of the people of this district.
We need leadership, not stunts.
Guest of Reason, it could be
Guest of Reason, it could be your wife, daughter or grand-daughter facing the use of "THAT" instrument. I am grateful for Butler stepping up and taking a stand on this! The real shock, GuestofReason is that this legislation is even being considered in the 21st century.
when the electorate chooses
when the electorate chooses not to inform themselves on the facts of politicians' platforms, and instead lets themselves be misled by the fear and false outrage of the right wing media, sometimes it takes a stunt just to get attention and show people what it is they are really voting for.
It's at least as appropriate
It's at least as appropriate as a male politician telling women where to stick it. They're lucky she didn't tell them where to stick it.
Politics should stay "out of" a woman's body
I had this instrument used on me for medical purposes; it was not a pleasant experience. Men that make laws that invade a woman's body need to get their feet in the stirrups. Goolsby a big NO from me. Thanks Deb Butler for showing what instrument will be used in a transvaginal ultrasound.
transvaginal ultrasound
If someone can legislate this being forced into women's bodies, then it is only fair to show the world what the weapon looks like.
Funny!
Funny, women who do not want women to have the right and access to know all information to make an informed consent on a medical procedure - abortion - that will affect the rest of their lives and involves killing an innocent unborn baby. Planned Parenthood uses ultrasounds to assist with abortions, but the pro-choice community refuses to allow all women to see what they see. Why????? Same tool used for diagnosing ovarian cancer or WANTED PREGNANCIES??? Ironic, isn't it? We are pro-life, pro-woman, pro-family, pro-child and believe all women have rights! Women deserve better! TRUTH!
Truth is... introducing
Truth is... introducing foreign objects into women's vaginas increases the risk of infection. A woman's health is a doctor's first priority. The fetus,should the woman carry the pregnancy to term, is now also at an increased risk. It's a bad,bad law. Plus, I've realized Thom Goolsby IS a transvaginal wand. AKA Prick
Noone should have a problem with this
This is basic health care equipment. Noone should have a problem with a medical instrument being used in an advertisement this way. It's not like they're showing it being shoved up a crying pregnant woman's junk after she's decided to terminate her pregancy for her own private, legitimate reasons (which is more like what it would actually look like). If Goolsby & his supporters are so proud of his position, why should it be a problem for the public to know what, exactly, he supports? They show mammogram machines and tampons on TV all the time, so it can't be because ladies' mess shouldn't be in the public purview.
The old in out in out
It's a bit of the old in out/in out if you ask me. If Thom wants this fine piece of medical equipment to be put in, why should Deb cut the ad out? What a stupid and tasteless question anyway! It's a piece of equipment for goodness sakes. It's not nearly as disgusting as a Kardassian, Paris Hilton, Donald Trump, or Romney/Ryan! Vote Deb Butler!
MarkB, I am voting for Ms.
MarkB, I am voting for Ms. Butler and am pleased to do so. I could change my mind if Goolsby would consent to having one of these devices rammed up his "you know what".
Unless a woman has had to
Unless a woman has had to have a transvaginal ultrasound for as medically necessary procedure to diagnose a condition/illness, she has not seen one, and men outside the medical field, don't want to see one. Sure, she should use it in her ad. I'm a supporter of transparency, so let his supporters see the medically unnecessary piece of equipment he would use to violate women.
Go Deb!
It is absolutely appropriate. For those who don't what a transvaginal ultrasound wand is, this ad will be an education. Anyone with half a brain should be appalled that Goolsby thinks he has any business legislating women's pelvic exams. Shame on him and good on Deb Butler.
Re: Deb Butler showing transvaginal wand in ad...
So let me get this straight, it's okay for women to be forced to have this instrument put inside their most private area (unnecessarily, might I add) but it's not okay for men to have to look at it in a stupid tv ad (which they have the right to look away from or turn off)? How does that even KIND OF make sense??