The comments here closely resemble another argument.
"Its not he motorcyclists fault - its the other guy"
"Law enforcement needs to do a better job enforcing the laws against... (fill in the blank)
Statistics show you'll be killed by a blank more often then a blank....
Gun owners blame criminals and crazies and judges
They blame LEOs for not enforcing laws
They cite statistics that show you are more likely to get killed by X than Z
The same arguments for helmets it seems
Just an observation
Should be the rider's choice to wear or not wear..
More deaths are caused in auto accidents than motorcycle accidents. More head trauma is done by falling than auto accidents. Check out head trauma on www.cdc.gov website. Just saying….
Wearing a seat belt is the law, but it amazes me how many people still do not wear them.
Watch around you when you are driving at the people texting or talking on the cell phone.
If I pay for my car/bike, pay insurance/tags, pay for the maintenance, and pay my taxes; then I should have the right to decide what is worn inside or outside. We have enough laws telling us what we can and cannot do. As long as we are not hurting others then let it go. People hurting others are what need to be governed. We do live in America, Land of the FREE.
If the helmet is such as a big issue, just let those that ride decide. They will be the ones that have to contend with the outcome. If that were death, then maybe they will be organ donors. But remember, organs are not free. I have a friend that was hit by an auto driver in town; he was only going maybe 30mph. His DOT approved helmet split half into. Needless to say the helmet did not help him. 72% of auto vs motorcycle accidents are the fault of the auto driver in NC, anyway. So LOOK FOR MOTORCYCLES, cause they are EVERYWHERE. I have other friends that have DOT Approved helmets and have had them recalled. Imagine that…
DRUNK DRIVERS on the other hand, which is also against the law, injury and kill innocent people every day. If we are going to govern what people can and cannot do with their transportation, let's really work, discuss, and even argue about the DRUNK DRIVER SITUATION.
This is just my little opinion…
Do you put 'just saying' in every post? We can tell you are just saying because you took the time to post.
it's just a saying lots say..should not be a big deal
But extremely similar to the addition of 'like' or 'you know' to sentences, it isn't necessary to use.
Get A Life.
A question to those who think that they shouldn't be required to wear a helmet? What will be the effect on our insurance? Will it go up to help cover the expenses of these riders that get hurt? How does our insurance compare to other states that don't require helmets?
Insurance will not go up if you got full coverage shouldn't matter..When they made the law to wear seat belts did insurance go up..NO.. It should be our choice whether to ride with or without! I am a rider and I say ..Let Those Who Ride Decide! It's about time NC passes this law..SC doesn't require you to wear one and lot's of other states...
"Research indicates that the major cause of motorcycle accidents remains the failure of other motorists to recognize motorcyclists in heavy traffic or at night. Statistics shows that about 70% of the collisions are a result of this. Other causal factors remain bad road conditions, speed problems, riding skills, presence of alcohol and undivided roadways." Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/255738. This is but one example, I invite you to research it and you will find the data is pretty much that same. Data from FARS does indicate that lack of helmet use is one associated factor in motorcycle deaths but based on motorcycle death statistics from helmet free states there is no solid evidence that there would have been less fatalities if helmets were mandatory. Comparing seat belts in cars and helmets on motorcycles is like comparing apples and watermelons. Seat belts and helmets are related because they are "safety devices" but not the same at all. Helmets do not restrain you. In fact,if you do your research, you will find that helmets are less than 40% effective in preventing fatalities in motorcycle accidents. Could a helmet save a life? Sure. Mostly what will save motorcyclists from fatalities is public safety education and car drivers that pay attention to their surroundings!!! Too bad we can't make that mandatory!
The real facts here is that I see car drivers spending down the highways going 10 mph or more over the speed limit as well as weaving in an out of traffic. Not to mention within city limits just flying 45 or 55 in a 35 mph zones an these drivers are just getting worse out there. I have avoided so many near hits due to other drivers over the years but that's because I have over 28 years experience riding. If law enforcement would really crack down on the speeders an the reckless drivers then we would be a hell of a lot safer when out on the road.
As far as the helmet is concerned I wear one all the time but it should be my choice as to level of protection I wear not the Government's.
An for all you non riders who are ignorant of the facts about helmet's, the helmet's that are being made in China are the worst helmet's I have ever seen. If you have ever wore one of these pieces of crap you know what I mean they are junk an cheaply made.
Accident victims cost ALL of us money, as the public pays a significant portion of the medical billls resulting from catastrophic trauma. Helmets save lives and they save the rest of us from having to pay the medical bills and long-term-care bills and rehab bills of those with brain damage that may have been prevented or is worse than it might have been with use of a helmet. YES, they should be required to wear helmets!
People who think all riders should be required to wear helmets because it is going to cost them something need to do their research before shooting off about something they are obviously uneducated about. Number one: the majority of motorcycle fatalities are a result of internal injuries, NOT head injuries. (Insurance Institute Statistics) Number two: there will be a rider attached to the bill requiring motorcyclists who CHOOSE not to wear a helmet to carry extra insurance to negate this effect on other motorists. Number three: the number of fatalities/injuries on motorcycles in states that do not have a helmet requirement is actually LESS that those who impose them. Make sure you know what you are talking about before you state your position on any issue not just this one.
And I'll just bet you have one of those "Loud Pipes Save Lives" stickers on your bike, helmet, jacket patch, or on your cage...don't you? Really, you get your stats from an insurance industry publication? That is like asking NAMBLA for advise on raising a child....biased and skewed! Comparing motorcycle insurance rates between helmet required states and non-helmet required states is like comparing apples to oranges. So I guess based on your "data" I could say that the insurance rates in New Hanover are higher than in any other part of NC so that must mean that it is because convertibles are more prevalent here. The point is that the both are completely unrelated arbitrary points.
The helmets should be mandatory- not that I have any concern for any body stupid enough to ride a motorcycle without a helmet- I don't want to pay for their medical expenses when they crash.
I'd venture to guess the percentage of non-riding 'no' votes is closer to 95%. The perception of the non-riding public tends to be that the only safety device available to riders is a helmet, which is absolutely not the case. Helmets, mostly, act as a placebo for riders of lesser experience or inadequate training to feel safer in traffic. Experienced riders (I have over 30 years) and well trained riders, having passed accredited motorcycle safety courses, know the key is to avoid the accident in the first place using awareness and superior riding techniques. Once you are above 35 MPH, the helmet really is nothing but a placebo anyway when the average soccer mom turns her SUV into the path of a motorcycle while chatting on a cell phone, this is when a rider's skill, and nothing else, will do him/her the most good.
Let those who ride decide!
I bet 50% of the NO Votes don't even ride.... Just saying...
Well I will tell you that 1 of those 376 "no" votes is me. I have been riding since 1998. I have ridden north of 100K miles between the 7 motorcycles I have owned. I also have completed course work with the MSF class and 6 levels of California Superbike School. So I am by no means a novice. I am a conservative that leans towards the libertarian side. Therefore my vote is at odds with those political beliefs, however, the image of motorcycles as "murder-cycles" (or whatever stupid nickname is given by the public at large) will never change as long as the "Easy Rider" and "Stunahs" image prevails. Motorcyclists should be seen as safety concious law abiding citizens not deathwish having maniacs. With that said, not wearing a motorcycyle helmet and dying as a result affects me from the standpoint of increased insurance rates and attempts at restrictive legistlation. There have been numerous pieces of legistlation at the national and state level that have been aimed directly at motorcyclists including denying health coverage and automatically giving up your right to consent yourself as an organ donor if you die in a motorcycle crash while not wearing a helmet. Thankfully none of these pieces of legislation have succeeded, however, it is only a matter of time until the nanny state makes due on those attempts. When are we motorcyclist going to take it upon ourself to police our own, to work to provide a positive image to non-riders? I would rather have a law requiring helmet use than continue to be looked down upon for the sport which I hold so dear due to the careless riders who ride witout a helmet. I know, I know this issue goes much deeper into issues of choice, of government intervention, and personal responsiblity so feel free to blast me on my opinion.
Stupid is as stupid does? Your right! Like comments on things when you don't have all the facts. Death rates have gone down in states when riders have a choice. But hell why worry about the factswhen you can state any stupid opinion on the web.
I have ridden and raced motorcycles for over 40 years and am a firm believer in All The Gear All The Time (ATGATT). I ride protected with hi-vis gear and with 6 forward facing lights on ALL the time.
There is already too many laws on the books and the reach and scope of the government is bigger than at any time in history. I NOR ANYONE ELSE NEEDS THE GOVERNMENT TO PROTECT ME FROM MYSELF!
I don't want your brains all up in my grill so yeah wear one.
..that aren't capable of thinking for themselves. That's why we have Obama in office for a second term.
However regarding helmets, I've been riding since I was 11 years old, off-road racing at 13, novice road racing at 20. I can tell you that over my years, I've taken a spill or two and appreciate my helmet. I spend a lot of money to get comfort, fit and quiet. I have helmets that display the magnitude of protection they have afforded me. I most likely wouldn't be here in my condition today without them.
I understand the freedom thing. The feel of wind through your hair, bugs in your teeth and all of those free pleasantries that come with being a biker. The problem is you can't hear a freakin' thing over 50 mph due to the wind noise over your ears, no matter how loud your bike is. You could have a rod getting ready to blast throuh your cases and not even know it.
So try this next time you're in a produce department. Hold a canteloupe at chest level with your arms extended. Release it and let it fall to the floor. What you will see is what your head will look like slapping the asphalt at 15 mph without a helmet. Imagine 55 mph, 70 mph?
Give 'em a choice. I know what mine will be.
There are too many accidents and lifes lost/ and for the ones say don't care or don't matter, than you need too see what i have seen, and i promise you would change your mind.
Or see a family member told they not going to make or they are paralyized, or paraligic====
If someone don't care / then you need change your way of thinking. No one is promised tomorow, so why risk the chance to lose it.
Please vote Yes People: for the helmet to be warn:
In my humble opinion I believe it should be my choice as to wearing a helmet while riding my motorcycle. There are only 19 states which have helmet requirements as strict as those in NC, and a NHTSA study concluded that states without mandatory helmet laws showed fewer fatalities than those states requiring helmets. The government should not legislate against personal freedom; the only laws that should be in place are those that affect the public good, and should not be targeted to a particular population demographic. Stop blindly following along the party line; the government does not always know what is best for you. How many of your rights are you willing to give up because the government thinks it is a good idea?
Who ever even brought this topic up is either stupid or got bribed a huge amount of money. If it is a law from a person to wear a seat belt in a vehicle that has a roof and sides covering the person then why would someone think it's ok not to wear a helmet on a motorcycle that has no protection BESIDES THE HELMET, why would you take away the only protection on a motorcycle? No helmets would cause more deaths, apparently this is what the person who brought this idea up wants.
A helmet is not "the only protection" for a motorcyclist. In some cases, it is no protection at all. the only true protection for a motorcylist, and for any driver for that matter, is proper education and training. A properly trained rider will not have to rely on some plastic and foam padding to keep alive. A properly trained rider will likely avoid the crash in the first place. Furthermore, a PROPERLY trained driver will be much more aware of his/her surroundings, put away the cell phone and big mac, pay proper attention to the task at hand, and maybe not cause the crash in the first place, since over 75% of motorcycle 'accidents' are caused by driver error.
Stupid is as stupid does. Sitting on a bike at a stop light, revving up the motor till the tailpipe backfires, disturbing everyone around them on the road, speeding down the highway. . . I mean, really, if they want to do this without a helmet let 'em have at it. They have an idea of the results of this kind of decision.
Your comments do nothing more than confirm you are not a member of the motorcycling comment as well show your steriotypical mindset. It tells me you've watched entirely too many movies portraying bikers as hoods. Just to let you know, our community consists of doctors, lawyers, politicians, and clergy, too. Have a nice day, and look out for those bikers.
It is a good way to help clean out the gene pool by allowing those not bright enough to make smart decisions to become organ donors.