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NEW HANOVER COUNTY, NC (WWAY) -- A follow-up to a story you saw FIRST ON 3 last week. The billboard paid for by secular activists that says "One Nation Indivisible" is being protested in New Hanover County.

Today demonstrators held signs and waved American flags near the billboard on Carolina Beach Road south of Monkey Junction. The groups behind the billboards across the state are pushing to get the words "Under God" out of the Pledge of Allegiance. Those protesting today say religion has always been part of the US.

"God and country. That's what we are," Teresa Hutto of Wilmington said. "The United States is a Christian country, and there is no other way around it. You can deny it, you can fight it, but in the end of the day we all say, 'Thanks to God.'"

The billboards are also appear in Asheville, Charlotte, Greensboro, Raleigh and Winston-Salem. The billboard on Billy Graham Parkway in Charlotte was spray-painted with the words "under God" earlier this week.

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I can see good points all three sides of this argument

Religious people: Yes, it has been a part of our country since the begining, but you shouldn't be trying to violate the first ammendment because of it, nor should you commit a criminal offense over it.

Fellow nonreligous people: I understand that it is a violation of the first ammendment and I also think that it should be put to right, but that doesn't mean that you should go around telling people how rediculously insulting it is to us.

People who realized that this should be about the vandalism of public property: Thank you for your attempts to get this discussion back on track.

And to the person who thinks that we aren't united: America is like a family, we've got our diffrences and sometimes we drive each other nuts over them, but tell me of one time that we didn't band together enough to kick the crap out of anyone who thought they could control us.

Understand

Ok right-wing religious nuts...listen up! Atheists are NOT trying to take away your right to worship your fairy-tale god. We simply don't want to have to listen to or be preached to...and having a pledge that speaks of god is insulting. If you want to say it that way, knock yourself out, but the official version should not condone any religion. Know your history and know what your talking about before you spout off about the history of the US and the pledge!

you sit here bashing other

you sit here bashing other groups of people but have the nerve to call yourself a christian? lol keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel that you have that ticket into heaven. lol

Origin of the Pledge of Allegiance

The Pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892 by Francis Bellamy. The original pledge read as: "I pledge allegiance to my Flag and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

In 1923, the National Flag Conference called for the words "my Flag" to be changed to "the Flag of the United States", for the benefit of new immigrants. The words "of America" were added a year later. The United States Congress officially recognized the Pledge as the official national pledge on June 22, 1942. The pledge now read as: "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Swearing of the pledge is accompanied by a salute. An early version of the salute, adopted in 1892, was known as the Bellamy salute. It started with the hand outstretched toward the flag, palm down, and ended with the palm up. Because of the similarity between the Bellamy salute and the Nazi salute, developed later, President Franklin D. Roosevelt instituted the hand-over-the-heart gesture as the salute to be rendered by civilians during the Pledge of Allegiance and the national anthem in the United States, instead of the Bellamy salute. Removal of the Bellamy salute occurred on December 22, 1942, when Congress amended the Flag Code language first passed into law on June 22, 1942.

Louis A. Bowman (1872-1959) was the first to initiate the addition of "under God" to the Pledge. At a meeting on February 12, 1948,[citation needed] Lincoln's Birthday, he led the Society in swearing the Pledge with two words added, "under God." He stated that the words came from Lincoln's Gettysburg Address.

On February 8, 1954, Rep. Charles Oakman (R-Mich.), introduced a bill to include the words "under God". Congress passed the necessary legislation and Eisenhower signed the bill into law on Flag Day, June 14, 1954.

The phrase "under God" was incorporated into the Pledge of Allegiance June 14, 1954, by a Joint Resolution of Congress amending §7 of the Flag Code enacted in 1942, and this is how the pledge now reads:

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

I guess if the athiests have their way, the current administration will propose legislature to have the words "under God" removed and President Obama will sign it into law, especially since he has stated this is not a Christian country.

No matter what a new law may state, the words "Under God" will remain in my pledge.

Really?????????????

I was raised in a home that believed in God, but did not run to church every Sunday. I now raise my children in the church, but never-the-less, we are not there every time the doors open. My point is raised in the church or not, we have been taught from the time we were little that God plays a role in every life, situation, and era of time. By taking God out of schools, country values, and so on, we are creating a country that does not see God as our base value for life.

The ones taking God out of our core values in the U.S. are creating a world of atheist. So when our teenagers feel they can do what they want b/c of poor moral values, I only hope God has pity on those that take shame in His name.

teens moral values

My 25 y.o son was raised by me, an atheist. He is one of very FEW teenagers I know that never smoked, did drugs or drank alcohol as most teens do. He never gave me a days grief, not one, ever. He still doesn't ! He is a wonderful young man who works hard to take care of his family and you could count on him for anything.

You only believe in god because you where raised to believe, he doesn't because he was raised to think logically.

You all are going to break your arms from patting yourselves on the back so much.

son

I tell you what, I sure as heck would hate to have been your son after keeping up with most of the post on here. You are the "Dragon Lady" of post.

yeah

Having a Mother that lives in reality would probably have been hard for you. I got respect from my son and I still do and it was not from being a "Dragon Lady". I instilled values in him that a lot of young people lack today. Too bad all you can see is the negative in that.

Everyone is wrong

This is ridiculous. If you don't like a billboard, keep driving and forget about it. Why is it so wrong for these people to fight for what THEY believe in like you? You don't have to support them but spray painting (no matter the subject) something on a billboard is not only wrong, it's a crime! So what, you are breaking the law for Jesus? Please! Christians like that give all other christians a bad name. I'm not religious at all, the bible is a beautiful book (yes, I have read it) and that's where I stop. I don't force this on anyone and I don't want religion forced on me in return. I understand you think you are "saving us" but it's our choice, just like it's your choice to have faith. I don't think it should be in the pledge or on our money or anything else. No one wants to change it to "one nation, under satan, indivisible" or "under atheism". I mean, Don't you see how insulting you are to other religions? Bottom line- It should be a choice, and if someones choice is paying to put up billboards in a personal protest, so be it! Put your own billboard up right next to theirs for all I care.

And to the lady who thinks we are pushing god out of christmas- Capitalism pushed god out a long time ago and I don't think your holidays got any less holy because of it.

Indivisible

Maybe we should take out the "Indivisible" instead, especially since we have done such a terrific job of dividing our country into so many different pieces.
My issue with the under god part is that it was not what the author intended, nor the founding fathers. This country was NOT built on christianity, it was built on religious freedom, the freedom to believe what is in your heart, not someone else's. And the freedom to NOT have someone else's beliefs shoved down or forced out of your throat. The Constitution was written with the intention of protecting the minority from the majority, and there is a reason why religious freedom is the first amendment. NO ONE of any belief wants the government to force any religion on the people. That means that you do have the right to pray in school, but not to make others do so, you do have the right to believe or not believe in a god or several or none, but you do not have the right to make others do so. And NO ONE had the right to alter the Pledge to be biased against the first amendment to begin with so it needs to be changed back!

Sadly, the "under god" part was propaganda and McCarthyism and guess what? It worked! Now YOU believe that it is supposed to be there!

Personally, whenever I say the Pledge I always ADD the words, "and may someday We have it" to the end, because I am still waiting on the LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

BTW, I am a polytheist, not an atheist. I do find it amusing that a particular God is not named. I vote for Bacchus. Let's change it to "under Bacchus" instead.
As for the "Atheists with an exception" who would argue that there is only one god, I would refer you to the 1st Commandment.

where can I rent a Lion costume?

I just want to go to their protest and chase all them around for a few minutes.

Under God

It is time for Christians to take a stand for what we believe in. We have stood silently by for far too long, while our freedoms have slowly been taken away from us. America was founded upon Christian and Jewish principles. America was and is a Christian nation. If we as Christians do not start making our voices heard when our freedoms and beliefs are attacked, soon we will no longer even be allowed to worship freely or proclaim that YES I AM A CHRISTIAN! I PLEDGE ALLIGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL!

Here we go...let the Holy

Here we go...let the Holy Wars begin. You people still don't get it. Even if the words "under God" were oficially removed from the pledge, if and when you recite it, "under God" can always still be included if you like. Nobody can change that. It is a personal thing. So what about gays? Sure, sometimes they pust their agenda too far, but this is the way they were born, NOT a personal choice as some believe. When in your life did anybody ever come to you and ask you to decide if you wanted to be homosexual or heterosexual? Sexuality is like eye color or skin color, you have no control over it. I am for sure a heterosexual and believe in God, but I am not sure I want to live my life based on the beliefs of people hundreds of years ago, they thought the earth was flat, remember? Why don't you come out demonstrating when the government takes some right or freedom away from you like they are doing on a daily basis? Why not demonstrate about drunk drivers? These are REAL concerns.

Pledge Billboard

I fully support the protesters. The Atheists have no right to take God out of the Pledge of Allegiance. They have the right not to believe in God, but they do not have the right to change the Pledge. The Atheists have chosen to create conflict, so that is what they are getting.

It's not protest, it's

It's not protest, it's vandalism. Don't try to glorify it.

Under God

Under God wasn't in the original pledge. Christian activists lobbied to have it added in 1954. Francis Bellamy, the writer of the pledge, was also a Baptist minister and a socialist. Look things up, you may find out that what you think you know is wrong.

Why

Why is it that 99% of all Christians here in the USA are tolerate of other religions and even to those who claim to have no religious beliefs, but the ones that claim to have no religious beliefs and are not Christians have no tolerance for the Christian's belief and our rights? Why can't I say God bless you, or say or post something about Jesus in public, or say Merry Christmas without it offending them? If there is no God or Jesus, why does it bother you if I happen to believe there is? I have just as much right to believe in Jesus as you have to not believe in Him and I will do so whether you like it or not. I only hope you change your beliefs before it is too late. One day when we take our last breath we will know whether Jesus was real or not. I am betting He is.

Let's go back to what has already been iterated.

Once again. It was originally w/o the Xtian reference. Atheists didn't change it. Whatever person in gov't put it on a bill to be passed changed it to the Xtian version. Dolt!

and these words--"The Atheists have chosen to create conflict, so that is what they are getting.”-- whaddya challenging someone to a fight. Ya gonna met me in the schoolyard, are ya?

BTW, no capital; just atheist a- away from, out of; theos- Greek for god (not capitalized, thank you)= away from god or without god or having no god.

Further, which protesters are you supporting since the initial posting of the billboard is a protest in itself; you must be supporting the counter-protesters.

PS howdya like the X instad of Christ? Neat, eh?

Dear Guest of the Queen's

Dear Guest of the Queen's asylum for the semi literate:

The use of "X" as an abbreviation for Christian is actually the Greek letter "chi". This usage has been around as long as Christianity itself.

You should school yourself before calling others dolts. Your post is truly the work of a simpering nebbish.

take it out

Christians had NO right to put it in back in the 1950's!! This country is NOT all christian so get over it. The pledge is to flag and the country NOT god.

What a bunch of nonsense.

What a bunch of nonsense. If someone believes in God, all the billboards in the world will not change that. Do these so-called non believers run around defacing churches and Christian billboards? I have never heard of this happening. Let them have their say and go on with your lives and praise God whenever you want. All you are doing is making a**es out of yourselves.

The Christians are right.

The Christians are right. Gays, Muslims, democrats, Oprah, and tree huggers can all say what they want about keeping God out of America and no one speaks up for the most part. Not even the Christians for the fear they will be attacked or just to let others say what they feel. The Christians are pretty non violent people. But when a christian stands up for what they believe in, all the bad people gang up on them. Just give the Christians respect even if you don't have the same beliefs. Our first president was a Christian and so was most of the country, when it started. Why does people want to take the word "God" out of everything. These people must think that they are now God.

The greatest conquest of

The greatest conquest of Satan has been to convince most of the world that there is no GOD.

As CHRISTians, we have a

As CHRISTians, we have a right to let our voices be heard. I'm tired of people trying to push God out of everything...schools, gov't, even CHRISTmas, etc!!!

It's up to us, as CHRISTians, to make our point that we've had enough of secular groups getting their way! CHRISTians have been quiet for too long!

And as a side note...do you think people like gays are making fools out of themselves when they have marches and such? The world is accepting of un-Godly people doing what they do, but when CHRISTians take a stand, we are weird? WHATEVER!

Well.

Christians have had it made for hundreds of years. As a matter of fact if someone, even as recently as fifty to sixty years ago, came out and said they were atheist, agnostic, pagan or any other possible choosing of a belief, they would be ridiculed and labeled publicly as a godless communist or a heathen. Now people have a chance to say what they believe and not be ridiculed for it, but "God" forbid they be allowed to!

Christians picket abortion clinics and nobody says a word to them about it because this is exactly what they will get in return, a bunch of hate speech about how we are wrong and are going to hell. Seculars pay to have a billboard placed showing that they believe a more accurate verbiage of the pledge is possible, and it gets vandalized by Christians who find it offensive.

Luke 9:52-56: "...they did not receive him...And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village."

If your Saviour would leave the non-believers to their ways why can't you?

Huh?

You're tired of people trying to take god out of government? You're a terrorist. The constitution provides for separation of church and state. It's every american's duty to keep god out of the government. This has nothing to do with persuading people NOT to believe in god, it has to do with enforcing the constitutional laws. Even it were to persuade people to not believe in god, it would be totally warranted. Drive I-40 sometime, almost every other billboard is " God is watching you", "Pray........or else!". etc..........god is a joke.

Under God was not in the

Under God was not in the original pledge,which by the way,was something a christian thought of writing for the country to say. It is not a stone written pledge created by congress.
Christian or not, our constitutions is built on separation of Church and State.
The problem in this case of the billboard is that someone or group defaced property which is against the law.This person or group could have put up their own billboard with the words under God written in it. Instead, they decided to break the law.
This is a nation free of religious persecution either for or against.
We are free to believe or disbelieve! Whether anyone else likes our decisions or not.

And as Christians...

We should also be respectful of what other believe. If they want a billboard to say whatever they want up there, they have a right to do it. As a Christian, I realize everyone has different views and we should be accepting of all of them. That group has every right to display that billboard if they want to and I do not understand how everyone has so much time on their hands to stand out there with signs to protest something like this. Those of us that are Christians believe in God, and God is accepting of EVERYONE... It's the judgmental, often racist, and hypocritical people at my church that scare everyone else away from wanting to experience God, and for that, the ones who claim to be most Christian of all, yet want to restrict others' viewpoints, should be ashamed of themselves... as you should be for your post about being un-Godly. Un-Godly is doing what you are doing.... protesting someone else's view, of which they are entitled to have.

Christians

Christians have the right to believe whatever they want, just leave the rest of the world alone. I was raised a Christian so my comments are not made out of ignorance. It has been my experience that most Christians are the first to make a negative racial, gay, ethnic, or just plain rude comment about anyone or anything they feel offends their belief or does not believe exactly as they do. If you were truly a Christian and believe as Jesus did you would not condemn anyone.

“Test all things and hold fast to what is good” – Thessalonians 5:21
“Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.” - Mark 4:24

Just because a person is not a “Christian” does not make them a bad or unrighteous person. It simply means they believe in a different way. Acceptance and understanding is the way of a Christian. True Christians should not even be concerned with trivial comments of others and certainly not billboards. If all Christians would focus on what is good in the bible, and most of it is, they would see the world through God’s eyes not just their own.

Wellllllll

Christians always take a stand, against everything that someone different believes. Gays don't go around spray painting church related billboards or advertisements. This country is founded on MANY different beliefs and values and as long as we are "indivisible" and focus on our country coming together to help each other, not focusing on the negativity or that someone else's beliefs are different than my own, so therefor they are wrong. What's sad is that it has to be put on a billboard to bring out that point.