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UPDATE: Brunswick County Commissioners vote against gravesite removal

READ MORE: Brunswick County Commissioners vote against gravesite removal
BELVILLE -- Human bones and artifacts were discovered behind Belville elementary school. Hawkeswater Development wanted to remove the human traces and build a neighborhood. At Monday nights meeting they petitioned to create a gravesite for the shallow remains 200 feet away. Local residents like Roberta Brady felt the human remains should stay put. "I think it's absolutely terrible that they want to desecrate these graves that have been here for hundreds of years, I think that they should be left where they are." Brunswick County Commissioner Bill Sue was for the proposed removal. "No body's been concerned about it all. Nobody knows or can even trace back who was in the grave, and the developer who was going to move those sites was going to create a much better gravesite in honor of those who were there." But after hearing opinions from the developers and residents the commissioners voted three-to-one against removing the bones. For now the human remains will have to remain behind Belville elementary school. Hawkeswater Development is not sure where to go from here, now that their petition to remove the gravesite has been denied.

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Reply to Truth Hurtz

You may be right with your observation that the graves "could" be your carpetbaggers or Tories, but who's to know. The artifacts that were found were from confederate soldiers, much more than just "bones" were found if you would care to check. Some people will indeed do anything for a buck, but not "all" of us will.

EVICTING THE DEAD?

Do not relocate the eternal rest of the dead. This place is growing too fast and now people are so insensitive and have no respect for anyone or anything. If the developers family were buried there would he feel so "Good" about digging them up, moving them , all the while assuring his deceased relatives that he would make them a better and prettier burial site? I don't think so. He would have more respect and money hungry greed would never cross his mind. We need to stop them somehow. There is a way to find out who the deceased are, a little research please ! As I remember from a prior article, among the Human bones artifacts were discovered dating to the American Revolution and the Civil War. So shall these HERO'S be dishonored in death for "Bill Sue" and the Developers? They have gone on from this world and their grave site is sacred, if not to the developers then to someone that is out there and has no idea that this is even happening. I see that many of you feel the same we have to stop them NOW ! Brunswick County Commissioner Bill Sue was for the proposed removal. "No body's been concerned about it all. Nobody knows or can even trace back who was in the grave, and the developer who was going to move those sites was going to create a much better grave site in honor of those who were there." Please let our county commissioner THINK before he SPEAKS

Heroes?

How do you know they weren't Tories or carpetbaggers? After all, no one knows who is buried there. Relocating cemetaries has been going on for centuries. It's nothing new brought on by local developers.

just say no

It's the same with developers as drugs- JUST SAY NO! Congratulations to the county commissioners for doing the right thing.

THE PROBLEM WITH YANKEES, OR

THE PROBLEM WITH YANKEES, OR WHOEVER ELSE IS MOVING HERE FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY IS THAT THE PRICE FOR LAND AND HOUSES SKYROCKETS. THEN THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED HERE FOREVER CANT AFFORD TO BUY A HOUSE. AND ALL THE OPEN LAND GETS SNATCHED UP BY DEVELOPERS TO BUILD EXPENSIVE HOUSES THAT NATIVES CANT AFFORD. AND THEN, ONCE YALL MOVE INTO YOUR FANCY NEIGHBORHOODS YOU START TO DEMAND SPECIAL TREATMENT. PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT PEOPLE HUNTING IN THE WOODS NEAR THEIR HOUSES AND WAKING THEM UP. WELL GUESS WHAT, THIS IS A RURAL COUNTY AND WE ARE GONNA HUNT WHEREVER WE CAN AND AS EARLY IN THE MORNING AS THE LAW ALLOWS!! WE WOULDNT MIND THE OUT OF STATERS, EXCEPT THEY COME DOWN HERE AND TRY TO CHANGE EVERYTHING AND TURN IT BACK INTO WHERE THEY CAME FROM. OR, THEY JUST COMPLAIN ABOUT HOW BAD IT IS DOWN HERE.

HUNTIN

My favorite part of your post is where you imply that no natives can afford an expensive house. Think about that while you are out early in the morning, near peoples houses, huntin. Ah those wascaly wabbits. Oh, and those fancy Yankees. Since you don't own a home (natives can't afford them) just take your tent, gun and bag of ammo further into the woods. P.S. Your caps lock button is stuck.

yankees

No, the problem is your attitude. I love to hear people complain about the yankees coming here, you better hope you NEVER MOVE because you'll be talked about to. See, when you get it through your head that it took people with money...cause you don't have any...to develpo around here and bring JOBS (if you know what that is) and help the economy that was not going anywhere you won't complain anymore. You might what to look again at the situation here and enjoy it. Other wise OIB would still be a little island with a few houses. AND, I do believe that some southerners jumped on oppertunity (or I should say a way to screw people and make money) like chargeing to fish at the pier and even to walk on it. I do believe that it is owned by a southerner...so who is screwing who??????????????

*yankees*

Well you sure didn't hear southerners complain about not having money. I believe they like the simple life and everything in it. I can understand how everyone feels about the growth in the area. Yes, I have been here all my life and enjoy the way it was. But as for charing to walk on piers & fish.... well you can just blame that on the yanks for moving here and driving up prices and demand for things. The owner of the pier is having to charge now to make his ends meet because of the increasing prices in our area. Thanks Yanks!! Not only do you have to suffer the extra charges so do the locals. Should have kept you mouth shut about brunswick county instead of telling all your friends what a quiet & wonderful place it was (cause it sure ain't that way now) FYI... I have a job & a pretty good one at that. Not every local in the area are hillbillies...MORON. No one in this area wanted developments but the northerners that moved here. Why would we want developments coming in ruining the forests our dinner lives in??? I could go on and on about your comment but I have better things to do.

The area

"Not every local in the area are hillbillies"

One fallacy in your argument.....

Some greedy goober first has to sell his land to that Yankee before it can be developed.

Who cares?

Pack up the bones and stick them in another cemetary somewhere. They are only bones and they surely aren't going to mind the move. After all, this isn't the movie "Poltergeist". No spooks or goblins are going to rise up and screw up someone's new swimming pool. LOL Cemetaries and golf courses are such a waste of good land.

Unfortunately, the graves

Unfortunately, the graves have already been desecrated by looters and are subject to erosion and exposure to the elements becuase of the shallowness of their burial. The developer WAS looking to honor those who were buried there and preserve the remains. Preservation does not always have to be in situ. In a new location, the graves would be better protected and would able to be appropriately honored.

Don't feel sorry for money-grabbers

It wouldn't be so bad if the developers acted upfront and honest, in regards to these people whose remains were found. We must not forget that the remains came to the public's awareness based on a tip from someone who knew exactly what the developer was trying to hide. They deserve more than a little inconvenience, and I believe an investigation into Mr Sue's dealings in these and other matters may reveal some interesting facts about him, and his professional actions as a representative for the citizens of Brunswick County. Why do they call Bill "Booger"?

Lanvale Trace Subdivision

Let them build around it. Lanvale Trace Subdivision built around an old cemetary.

I think the fact that Bill

I think the fact that Bill Sue said "Noones concerned nobody knows or can trace back who is in the grave" is the most heartless thing I have ever heard. How would Mr Sue feel if it was his family that they were going to move from there final resting place? Not so good I'm sure. As someone who lost there mother 2 weeks ago I find it appalling that they just want to dig up and move "whoever" is there. Shame Shame. Instead of building more homes they should be building a bigger and better teaching facility for the residents of Leland -I have a niece and nephews who attend and they deserve more that a closet to be taught in. Lets do the right thing here!

Look at it realistically

Everyone who knew those people, who loved those people, who might have brought some flowers to those graves on some Sunday sixty years ago, they're all dead and gone themselves. Those graves are totally neglected, those people completely forgotten. They have no remaining links to the present, and in that regard, unless the people can be identified or some historical significance can be attached to that site, it serves no purpose to keep it as it is. No one with flowers will be visiting next Sunday, or ever again.

Realistically?

I beg your pardon but I must disagree. Thanks to the information age, I have assembled a family tree of people spanning years and years back. I do go to their graves when visiting those areas of the US where they are located. These people were once forgotten but now they are remembered. I found one grave in Norfolk vandalized. It has now been repaired. I hope ancestor years now research my family. Please use some common sense.

How do you trace a family tree...

...to unmarked graves? Do you guess that great-great grandma is buried right here....er....or is it over there, in the unmarked grave ten feet away? You wonderful tale has nothing to do with the condition of the remains behind the school. They can't be traced. No one knows who is even buried there. Perhaps if anyone still cared about these people the "suddenly sacred ground" would never have been sold?

I am happy about the

I am happy about the decision, it is the right thing to do. However,somewhere up north there is a Yankee crying. His new house will have to be built on some other consecrated site or maybe some good, irreplacable wetlands.

What year is it? The Civil

What year is it? The Civil war was over a long time ago. Move forward.

I am happy about the

I am happy about the decision, it is the right thing to do. However,somewhere up north there is a Yankee crying. His new house will have to be built on some other consecrated site or maybe some good, irreplacable wetlands. What is your problem? Are you so narrow minded that you blame all your problems on people from the North? This topic has nothing to do with people from the North, but you write a comment like that. Maybe if you have problems in your life you should blame your self and not people that you don't even know. Comming from the North I can tell you that we never blame poeple from the South for our problems. If someone new moved into the house next to me up North and they were from the South I would still welcome them. I bet if your house was for sale and someone from the North, yankee land, offered to buy it from you for full asking price you would sell it to them and not say no because of were they are form. Get over it.

Shame on...

Attaboy Mr Sue...we'll remember you when you want to be reelected. Maybe you'll understand that sometimes you have to stop listening to those who line your pockets to have you vote for their money-making projects. Then you can see what it's like for nobody to care about YOU at all. Whoever was in those graves deserve honor and respect...and that doesn't come with a profit as motivation. Thank you and a lot of respect to those commissioners who voted with morals...it is so refreshing to see that. If the developers really cared about the remains of these unknown, they would create their "better" memorial where the remains are...let's see that happen.

Save Graveyard

Maybe the graves should be put back in-tak like they were before removed bodies, caskets, bones to another place. Gov Russell had to have ancestors here in Brunswick County. Why doesn't someone step up and take a DNA test along with the remains of some that are buried there? You might be surprised. Our hat off to Commissioners Rabon, Norris and Moore. Meet Sue at the Ballott box.

bill it looks like you are

bill it looks like you are digging youre own grave, i know you attend church on sundays how can you attend church one minute and go against everything you preach the next ,shame on you ,the good people of northern brunswick county will remember you come voting time , you also voted to not allow the county to get control on the local flooding problem in northern brunswick due to not having the county remove beaver dams any longer ,the next hurricane can we count on you when our homes flood again, i think not .your days as a commissener are numbered

Amen to this...Its time to

Amen to this...Its time to Go...Been their to Long.... Time for all of Brunswick County to change....