Commissioners vote down family planning grant, Barfield regrets decision


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Submitted: Tue, 03/13/2012 - 2:44am
Updated: Thu, 08/02/2012 - 5:02pm
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WILMINGTON, NC (WWAY) — Providing contraception for women has been a national topic for months, and now it has sparked debate in New Hanover County.

Commissioners unanimously voted down a state grant that would fund contraceptive supplies and services in the county. Just like the national story, providing contraceptive healthcare to women is anything but one-sided, but commissioners all seemed to have the same mindset.

“I have a fundamental philosophical issue with using tax pay dollars to fund someone’s irresponsibility,” said Commissioner Rick Catlin, who also serves on the county’s health board.

“If these young women are being responsible and didn’t have the sex to begin with, we wouldn’t have this problem to begin with, but unfortunately that’s the problem that we have,” Commission Chairman Ted Davis said.

All five commissioners voted to turn down a nearly $9,000 state grant to help fund contraceptive supplies and medical services related to family planning. The decision did not sit well with some.

“I think it’s outrageous that an all male panel have declared women who are taking responsibility for their basic health care, which includes contraception, that that would be irresponsible,” said Melissa Reed, a spokeswoman for Planned Parenthood.

“They should be trying to legislate to protect women’s health rather than trying to legislate morality,” said Han Hills, a pro-choice advocate and president of Humanists and Free Thinkers of Cape Fear. “That’s not what they’re there for.”

After thinking it through, one commissioner says he regrets his vote.

“I’m one of those abstinence guys, so I agree with those comments,” Commissioner Jonathan Barfield said during Monday’s meeting.

Barfield says he realized his mistake after talking with his wife.

“Her first question was, ‘What were you thinking?’ and we started walking through and talking about this discussion,” Barfield said. “She brought up some very valid points that if someone is seeking contraception, it shows that they are being responsible.”

103 Comments

  • Guest69985 says:

    I guess it would work because somehow despite having the same hormones and temptations as everyone else, I managed to be in control of myself and not be some kind of mindless animal. If we are saying that people are so mindless they are completely unable to say no, then how mindful are they going to be to go seek out birth control, use it properly AND use both hormonal birth control AND a barrier device? You would have to have them be mindful of 4 different things when they couldn’t even be trusted to a) say no or b) go to the drugstore and buy a condom.

    You know, underage kids will not have common sense and most will drink but I’m not at the Quick Stop standing in the parking lot buying them beer and driving them home to be sure they are safe either.

  • Guest69985 says:

    newsflash: if you are on welfare, medicaid, foodstamps, or would qualify for them upon becoming pregnant you already qualify for and have access to free birth control via the health dept and planned parenthood. Your argument makes no sense.

  • SurfCityTom says:

    bring stupid irrelevance to just about every topic?

    How is Nazi Germany, with its programs of forced sterilization of unwanted minorities, concentration camps and genocide, attempted development of the first atomic bombs, and the development of guided missles and jet aircraft in any way relevant to this discussion?

    If you’re going down this path, perhaps you should bring in Ghadaffi & Libyia, Idi Amin and Uganda, and Duvallier and Haiti?

    Bring something relevant and intelligent to the table.

  • CCRES says:

    Check…Exactly! You hit the nail on the head. My wife and I work and she has to pay for hers. You should have to pay for yours or keep your panies on.

  • CCRES says:

    He is saying this “pay your own way.” Contraceptives are not a necessity.

  • JezebelJean says:

    Sanctimonious simpletons refuse funding for birth control and then will moan and groan about having to pay for the related costs of unwanted children: increased welfare costs, increased Medicaid, increased education costs.

  • GuestUSMC says:

    This bunch of Bozos is totally unbelieveable. In the first place, in the twenty-first century, birth control should not even be an issue. Having sex is a normal function between men and women and has absolutely nothing to do with religion. The idiots that voted this down apparently do not have sense enough to realize that birth control is much cheaper than raising a welfare child and allowing the taxpayers to foot the bill from cradle to grave. But, then, they are politicians, and politicians have very little consideration for others and their hard-earned dollars. They have proven this time and time again.

  • Grand Ole Party says:

    “Her first question was ‘what were you thinking?’ and we started walking through and talking about this discussion,” Barfield said. “She brought up some very valid points that if someone is seeking contraception, it shows that they are being responsible.”

    News flash skippy~ Tax payers do not have to foot the bill in order for another person to act resposible!! If you need a list of how this can best be done, please let us know.

  • dt says:

    thank god the commissioners turned down $9K of free money, because that will surely keep those people from having sex.

    nice logic.

    if you think this is all about getting laid, then maybe you should run for the commission. clearly that’s what they think this is about.

    the money was to provide IUDs for women who might not use other forms of contraception. see http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20120310/ARTICLES/120309669?p=2&tc=pg&tc=ar

    keeping the IUDs from them doesn’t save taxpayer money (it will simply go to some other, less backward thinking county). it might keep some poor women from having babies, which would cost considerably more taxpayer money.

    if you really hate paying for food stamps, section 8 housing and health care, you’d support this. but all you really seem to want to do is complain about helping poor people.

  • X says:

    They, with the possible excption of Mr. Barfield, will get my vote. Not berger, Though, he is a nutjob.

  • Guest1165 says:

    This was a GRANT. Now someone else will get the money and because of this at least one young lady, probably, if not more, will get pregnant and the people of NC get to pay for it for 18 years. Which makes more sense?

  • Vicki says:

    The commissioners made a very good decision…It is not the tax payer that should be responsible, for men and women, that are not accountable for their sex behavior. IFC a woman does not want children, she should supply her own preventive care. NOT THE TAX PAYER

  • X says:

    I, as a taxpayer, already pay for someone elses food stamps, section 8 housing, medicare, (does that not already cover your birth control?) and God only knows what else…..Now I am being asked to pay, with taxpayer funded grant money, so someone else can get laid???

  • Steve says:

    Sigh. They’re going to get laid regardless of whether they have contraception. That’s the way its always been and always will be. Unless you have some magic formula to make teenagers stop being teenagers and humans stop being human. So the question is whether you want to deal, as a taxpayer, with the consequence of unplanned pregnancy. Or, alternately, maybe you want to pass a law saying all children who are born out of wedlock can’t be born in public hospitals or get an education in public schools and their mothers aren’t entitled to any of this assistance you are so angry about having to pay for.

    And given that Medicare is only available for people over 65, birth control isn’t much of an issue. I’m assuming you meant Medicaid. If so, its fascinating that you immediately drug it, food stamps and Section 8 into the discussion. What’s really bothering you here? Come on, just say it.

  • Guest1971 says:

    Guest699885 – I agree with you 100%!! I am also a woman.

    If you can’t see yourself having a baby with a man – DON’T HAVE SEX WITH HIM!!

  • Guest4869146 says:

    yes but only if you force someone to have an IUD which I don’t see happening. If you are on welfare you almost 100% surely qualify for FREE birthcontrol already be it IUD, Pills, shots or condoms through Medicaid, the health dept or planned parenthood yet pregnancies still happen. Free birth control is NOT the issue here.

  • Gail says:

    What in the world is happening to our country? I have never seen such an attack on women’s rights as is happening now from local politicians to national politicians (i.e REPUBLICANS). They complain about paying for food stamps, etc. but yet do something stupid like turn down $9K Grant money just because of their stupid religious and political beliefs.

    I am a 70 year old woman who fought long and hard for women’s rights and I do not want or need any more male politician panels telling women what to do or not to do and how to do it. Take care of your own backyard and stop trying to run women’s lives. Most women are smarter than men anyway and certainly don’t need a politician or right wing religious nut telling them what to do.

    These commissioners should be ashamed of themselves and I hope no one ever votes for them again.

  • Guest699885 says:

    As a woman, I agree with the commissioners. If a woman and a man pool their resources and TOGETHER cannot afford birth control then they definitely do not need to have sex. No birth control is 100% effective and if two people cannot afford 1 condom then there is NO way they could handle the costs of a pregnancy. If a man will not pay for or at the very least absorb half of the cost of contraception since a woman assumes the majority of the risk, then women really need to reconsider the quality of the man they are being intimate with in the first place. Shouldn’t you think better of yourself than to have sex with a guy who won’t even pony up a few bucks for a condom that he could even probably get for free from a health clinic if he put half a brain cell of effort into it? Aren’t we as women more valuable than that?

    If free/low cost contraception plans really worked the way people who promote them say they do, then why has the single parent birth rate for women gone up to over 50% of all births? This doesn’t factor in the access women have to abortions for unwanted pregnancies that would bring this figure way up if they were not available.

  • stupidMEN says:

    You really believe that people are just going to stop having sex, because your god wants them to. GET A DOSE OF REALITY!!! It’s your job to do what’s best for the community, not what’s best for your religious belief. So apparently you believe that it is better to have these women who no longer have access to birth control, having abortions, or even worse, having babies they don’t want, and can’t afford, thereby ending up having my govt tax dollars going to support them for the rest of their life..Seems like it’s better for the community to fork out the $9K now, rather then us having to fork out millions of dollars to support them for the next 75 years. Commissioners need to spend less time satisfying the religous sect, and more time doing what’s best for the county as a whole. All of you who voted this down, will no longer be getting my vote, in any election.

  • guesty says:

    The grand plan is to have those that can’t manage their life to keep breeding and producing more government dependents. More government dependents equal more voters.

  • Challengetheworld says:

    Enough with the handouts. We cannot teach morality to those who lack it. Futhermore, POLITICS AND RELIGION should never mix. Ever ever ever ever. The government should be ruled as a service business and relgious decisions should NEVER take part in any decision what so ever. The end.

  • Guest461 says:

    …of possibly preventing the birth in the first place? This is a double edged sword. Whilst I agree with you as to how our tax dollars are spent, the choice of the lesser of two evils would be prudent.

  • Guest111 says:

    The craziest thing of all in this. . . most of these girls wouldn’t take the pill if it was handed to them on a daily basis. If they have kids, that’s more welfare monies for them.

  • Guest461 says:

    …once voting time arrives!!!

  • outofpocket says:

    So it shouldn’t be the tax payer’s money used for birth control, but it’s OK for the tax payer’s money to be used to pay for the BIRTH of the child? The people seeking help receiving birth control ARE being responsible, they know that they need to PREVENT a pregnancy. Birth control is not ONLY used as a contraceptive, it is also used for other issues as well… excessive bleeding, migraines and menstrual cycle regulation. If a person wants to use a place such as Planned Parenthood as their regular doctor, to be able to see a doctor and afford the visit, why is this a problem? Most of these people are not getting assistance from Medicaid and they are paying out of pocket to go there. Would you rather them get Medicaid (TAX PAYER MONEY) and get everything at the same price or cheaper than being real and paying out of pocket? People need to step back and ask themselves… What would I do if I was one of those people that relied on the services of Planned Parenthood and those services were no longer available?

  • Guest CommonTater says:

    Funny how the whiners come crying because there wasn’t free money to fund their irresponsible behavior. If you want to have sex have at it. Buy your own contraception… if you are too irresponsible to do that and get pregnant get a job and pay for your mistake. I am sick of paying for others mistakes and sick of those that think they are “entitled” to something.

    To the religious whiners…. This isn’t about religion it’s about being responsible for your own actions. I have heard from many an atheist that you don’t need religion to be moral or responsible. I realize this was a grant in this case. Please understand I don’t care what you do but how dare you make me pay for it in any shape or form!

  • Lindsay Quinn says:

    Just an FYI to all of the comments. There are different types of birth control readily available to anyone that needs it at the New Hanover County health department. These funds were earmarked only for IUDS. The female director of family planning at the health department said they needed IUDS for women that could not remember to take their free birth control pills that they are already receiving from the health department. The director herself said the women were being irresponsible with their existing birth control. This vote did not take away any funding of existing forms of birth control from the health department. They only voted not to accept new funds for the new IUD supplies. Why should my federal and state tax dollars have to pay for a more expensive IUD, just because I can’t remember to take my pill or go in and get my DEPO shot.

  • Guest35 says:

    What a stupid decision.

  • Guest87 says:

    If you think you are paying now, just wait until all the babies start popping up to be supported. More WIC, more medicaid, more food stamps, etc. Also, more child abuse and domestic violence with all the unwanted babies that will be born.

  • Guest1022 says:

    Gosh free money. I wonder where it came from?

  • Citizen of the Republic says:

    Instead of taxpayers paying for someone’s sexual desires, let the 2 people that make a baby be responsible for it.

    I know, that in this day and time, many teenagers feel it’s their constitutional right to party and hook up.

    Society needs to make them responsible, and make sure they raise a child properly.

    If women truly want government to stay out of their bodies, they should be responsible for what they put into their bodies. Government should have no role except to put the responsibility of contraception and child birth squarely on the people that create a life.

    It’s time to put people on notice, the taxpayer isn’t going to pay your bills, whether contraception, or child care, or monthly payments based on how many children you have.

    Pay for your responsibilities yourself, or suffer the consequences.
    If young women had to pay for diapers, baby food, etc, they would think twice before having more children.

    It’s not my job to pay for a lifetime of govt assistance for people that are too lazy to use a condom, or work.

  • Commonsensenotcommontoday says:

    First, there IS no shortage of contraception available to indigent women. They can get Depo-Provera shots and all the condoms they need at the Deaprtment of Health.

    If you’re not indigent, then your contraception is your responsibility and part of that responsibility is PAYING FOR IT. This is not a “woman’s health issue,” it’s an “I don’t want to have to pay for my contraception” issue.

    That said, conservatives are ignorant to try and tie this to morality. They should simply keep it on the economic plane, and refuse to pay for contraception for women who are capable of paying for it themselves. In the case of women of child-bearing age who are on public assistance, we should make birth control MANDATORY, as a requisite to collecting your benefits.

    You have no RIGHT to anything someone else has to pay for. Food, clothing, shelter, healthcare AND contraceptives are not your rights – they are your RESPONSIBILITY.

  • mikerowes says:

    These same old men would more than jump up at the idea of birth control or abortion if it was there “daughter” or “mistress”. They say one thing to get the votes of a certain audience. $9000 is a drop in the bucket compared to the cost of welfare, food stamps, medicaid, and education. They were wrong in there choice. So I will do research for candidates for county commissioners who is open to idea’s like this. They just voted for a TAX increase indirectly on something they cannot control.

  • Grand Ole Party says:

    Why should tax payers have to pay for birth contol? This is an ignorant argument. I shouldn’t have to pay for unwanted children, condoms, or any of the above. I work for a living and and expect others to do the same. If you can’t afford birth control keep your legs closed. Pretty damn simple. Give an inch and they take a mile. We tax payers foot enough of the bills as is. Enough already. It’s something new every day. Free food, free cell phones, free medical care, why the hell would anyone bother getting a job? Start cutting them off and let’s see how fast they learn to work, and learn to use SIMPLE alternative methods of birth control. Not sure what that is? PULL OUT!!! There is always some liberal wanting to spend someone else’s money.

  • Guest 10101 says:

    … and when it does I guess the taxpayers will just continue to pick up the tab, as usual. Personal responsibility seems to have little significance in our society these days. To blame an unwanted pregnancy on the commissioners turning down a grant is so putting the cart before the horse.

    If we humans are all just pigs (men as well as women) rutting in the mud, as apparently we are to you, then we should fund free birth control right down to about 12 years of age. We can easily find the monies for that by discontinuing funds for sex education in the schools. Sex education is just a massive waste of time and treasure if we’re all just pigs anyway.

  • Guest1165 says:

    I think Nazi’s had forced sterilization. Common, can you make the trains run on time, also?

  • Guest4891654 says:

    Hormonal contraceptives for health “care” is not health care at all but lifestyle care. Hormonal contraceptives do NOT offer any protection from sexually transmitted diseases such as Aids, herpes, hepatitis, etc. Only barrier methods would do that which are relatively inexpensive and frequently free at most health departments.

    If we are trying to offer hormonal contraceptives to women as health care for OTHER conditions then it falls under the things that insurance, medicaid and sliding scale clincs would and should handle as these are off-label uses which are not regulated by the FDA.

  • a human being says:

    So, it’s OK to turn down grant money that will hrlp numerous people because “my tax money shouldn’t go to pay for it” but everyone’s OK with BILLIONS in tax payers’ money to pay for war and get our own soldiers killed as well as innocent civilians. Gottcha! War good. Birth control bad. I don’t want MY tax money going to fund wars so we’re even.

  • frontpaige says:

    Our Commissioners voted to NOT use tax money to fund a program. Usually when local government accepts tax/grant money, it means those taxpayers will continue the program with their own funds. In other words a new tax payer funded program has been created on that government level! It is also a way to change or initiate public policy. Groups like Planned Parenthood and other concerned individuals can still contribute their monies to this cause. They will not be prevented from doing so.

    Men should also share responsibility. This is not just a woman’s issue, but the vote was just a tax money issue.

  • Get the facts says:

    IUD funding is effective for 5 or 10 years and user has no pills to take.

  • Guest10987654321 says:

    I was wondering when someone was going to mention the article in the RedStar news. Specifically the comments made by the health department in regards to women who could not “remember” to use their provided birth control. This is where the whole “irresponsible” talking point originated from.

  • Guest51 says:

    Vicki you need to read the county welfare payments budget.

  • Commonsensenotcommontoday says:

    Let’s go over this again. You have no RIGHT to anything that someone else has to pay for. Free contraception is not a RIGHT.

    No one is trying to “run women’s lives.” We’re trying to make you pay your own way through life.

    So why don’t YOU take care of your own backyard by carrying your own load, and not expecting taxpayers or insurance companies to pay for it?

  • Commonsensenotcommontoday says:

    Taxpayer funded giveaways to worthless deadbeats isn’t.

    Carry your own load! Pay your own way through life!

  • X says:

    Timing of this seems a bit odd to me….

  • Guest1165 says:

    The money is from taxes and if we don’t get it someone else will.

  • Guest CommonTater says:

    is neither! There should be no “choice” here and “either”, “or” should not be a factor. Pay your own way… you breed em you feed em.

  • Guest61246 says:

    I agree with her as well, however it will never play out this way in the real world. When the hormones start raging, common sense and reasoning take a back seat, it’s “love the one you’re with”. I don’t know why this is so difficult for some to comprehend.

  • Guest 10101 says:

    You just don’t get it. Once the grant funds run out, programs like this have a tendancy to continue on the local community’s dime. There’s no free lunch and there’s certainly no free money. Closing your eyes as tightly as possible while putting your hands over your ears and repeating the same nonsense over and over won’t make it true.

  • GuestVader says:

    I feel this way……birth control is cheaper than lifelong welfare. Also, if insurance covers Viagra (it does) to enhance mens’ sexual pleasure, women deserve to enhance theirs by not having to worry about pregnancy. I am a man, not a woman.

  • Guest666 says:

    Got to hand it to Barfield. He knows how to ride both sides of the political fence……..vote like you want to and then say you made a mistake in an attempt to please everybody. Guess he thinks people are too ignorant to figure him out.

  • Grand Ole Party says:

    No need to wish buttercup, you want to pay my taxes we can make it happen, or are you just running off at the mouth? You pay my taxes and I assure you I will shut up. So what’s it going to be?

  • getting down with it says:

    accepted the money dont’ you. Needless to say ALL MALE COMMISIONERS making decisions on female health issues? I say vote their A$$e$ out of office..ignorant bastards

  • Commonsensenotcommontoday says:

    I never thought of you as stupid until now.

    Okay, I’m lying….I have. This tops it, however.)

  • Commonsensenotcommontoday says:

    It’s part of a national effort by the Democrats to convince women that the Republicans have “declared war on them.” It’s an absurd, nonsensical charge of course, because refusing to create a new entitlement is hardly waging war on anything except the welfare state the Democrats are so enamored with.

    On top of that the Republicans are totally inept when it comes to dealing with all things political, so if they were intentionally launching a war, it would be a total failure in about a week anyway.

    The simple fact of the matter is that poor women can get free birth control already, and those who aren’t poor should pay for it themselves.

    Nothing beyond that, from either party, is true.

  • SurfCityTom says:

    so why not cause anyone who is receiving entitlements, including free or subsidized birth control measures, to forgo all future benefit payments for life if she conceives another drain on the economy after she begins using the device?

    Enact that and you will either see an immediate drop in welfare births or a significant drop in welfare entitlement recipients commencing in about 9 months.

    Now that would put substance behind a public program.

    But go a step further. Require random drug testing for all entitlement recipients. Drop the free cell phone program that costs about $300 million annually country wide and is so poorly managed the government continues to pay for lost phones while it gives the recipient a new phone. And require public housing authorities to conduct random, after hours property inspections.

    Boy now that will cause a maountain of savings in public dollars.

  • Guest54687 says:

    My first job out of college was in a social services occupation and unfortunately, the folks who regard entitlements as a career option have a view that’s polar opposite. The more children on their “case,” the more money coming in. SSI alone makes it a nice incentive to have more kids to bring in the bucks. The women who choose to prevent the pregnancy, are likely the ones you want to pass along their genes but won’t.

  • SurfCityTom says:

    think public grant funds come from.

    They’re not found under cabbage leaves.

    They come out of the state funded budget.

    So which is more important?

    Funding contraception for those who do not want to pay for it?

    Or putting the funds into education?

    Like to see your answer on that one.

  • Grand Ole Party says:

    Well guess what genius, it’s not viagra for war vets. If they want birth control they can purchase it. Health issue my ass!!!! Give it a rest. I am sick of my taxes being used for such ignorant purposes. I doubt a free loading moron like you even votes. Get bent.

  • Guest461 says:

    …in this very real world, we will always have the ignorant, the poor, the lazy, the sexually impulsive and the irresponsible. In addition, as long as the gov’t is involved, we will have those that expect to the gov’t to fix it AND pay for the consequences.

  • Mike T says:

    No Jobs, No Money, Ban Abortion,& Less F#@$ing. That should get the women’s vote locked up for sure. Cant wait to hear the speeches from Tampa!

  • Guest1165 says:

    Why be a hater? Why are you always against helping someone who needs it? You have a lot of violence in your heart. How does that feel? Maybe if you loved your fellow man instead of being mean you would feel better about yourself and could figure ways to help people instead of just being you. What a miserable existence you must lead. But, that is your problem, Adolf, not mine.

  • Commonsensenotcommontoday says:

    Nice try, but facts will easily trump your empty, meaningless rhetoric.

    Abortion isn’t going to be banned, and women can pay for their own contraception. If they can’t they can get it free as the Department of Health.

    Do you liberals believe in anyone having to pay for anything (other than your “soak the rich” lunacy)?

  • Commonsensenotcommontoday says:

    Drugs such as Viagra are covered by insurance WITH A CO-PAY that is larger than a normal co-pay on most plans.

    In August the Obama Administration issued an imperial edict that insurance companies cannot charge a co-pay for birth control pills.

    So you may be a man, but you’re a misinformed man who is paying higher health insurance premiums to subsidize something that women should be paying for themselves.

    This is a phony-baloney issue launched by the Democrats to increase the number of freeloaders in society in time for Obama’s re-election campaign.

  • SurfCityTom says:

    Life, Liberty & the Pursuit of Happiness.

    Show me someone who thinks the Government and Taxpayers should pick up the tab, I’ll show you a Democrat.

  • Commonsensenotcommontoday says:

    Oh, I’m a haaa-aater who doesn’t love my fellow maa-aan. (SNIFF!)

    Wake up! If we took steps to restrict irresponsible breeding by recipients of TANF, Medicaid, and Public Housing we’d be doing them a great favor. The best War on Poverty is not encouraging the production of poor people, Einstein.

    I have no problem helping people. I give away thousands of dollars to deserving charities every year. I have a great problem, however, with people making a lifelong career of sucking on the taxpayers’ teat because they’re too stupid or lazy to manage their own life.

  • Guest2020 says:

    Given that half of the babies murdered are male, I think that men do have a voice in this issue.

  • Guest2020 says:

    It’s called self-control. It’s one of the things that separates us from the animal kingdom.

  • Guesttoday says:

    Grand Ole Party I work and pay my bills and I’m very blessed to not need any assistance. I wish I could take over whatever big tax donations you think you pay all by yourself so I could just shut you up.

  • Grand Ole Party says:

    Hey moron!!!! Women don’t NEED birth control, and I damn sure don’t NEED to pay for it. Maybe loving there fellow man is the whole problem, they just need to cut back a little here and there.

  • Guest1165 says:

    republicans is my favorite thing in life right now. You are so easy it is like getting a conditioned response from Pavlov’s dog. I know what you are going to say before you do. Keep on hating, Adolph.

  • SurfCityTom says:

    then you should remember birth control began at home. Parents took the time to instill a sense of right and wrong in their children.

    You should remember a time, before Lyndon Johnson created the Massive give away society programs, when folks did not live off the public dime.

    This is not about the correctness of birth control.

    This is not about men dictating how women should live.

    This is about ending public subsidies because certain members of society do not feel they should pay for their own lifestyle.

    What’s hard to understand about that?

    And if you’re 70, then you should remember when a high school female getting a “bun in the oven” was a cause for shame to her family; and a cause of accountability for the father to be.

    Today, in many cases, they can not even identify the father to be.

    Watch Maury sometime as the half witted young females drag their families through the shame while they try to lay the Father tag on someone they had sex with. Except, the DNA results prove him innocent. So they try again with someone else. Sad to think a young lady has so many playmates it may take 10 or 12 DNA exams to determine who the Father is.

    And where do you think grant funds come from? Publi grants come out of the tax payers’ pockets.

  • Guest111 says:

    He ain’t riding no fence. He’s whipped!

  • Wilmington Observer says:

    I am sick and tired of my (tax) money being used to provide goods and services to individuals when I, and my family, have to pay “out of pocket” for the same goods and services. If you, or anyone else, feels led to fund these endeavors I am sure the Health Department will take your check.

    Why have we strayed away from charity organizations in lieu of “forced charity” through higher taxes?? If our government (local, state and federal) would stop robbing our paychecks to pay for these things people would have more money to fund the charities that are “close to heart”.

    Wilmington Observer

  • WilmMan says:

    Why do so many of you think this has anything to do with women’s rights or an all male panel voting on female issues? This is nothing more an a panel voting on how to use tax payer’s money. Women do receive free contraceptives from the Health Depth. I shouldn’t have to waste my money on this because a woman is too STUPID to remember or too LAZY to take her FREE pill everyday

  • Guest Redneck Across the River says:

    Too bad Ted’s mother did not share his beliefs.

  • Ted Davis, your comment is the most ignorant, irresponsible, ill-informed thing that I have ever heard a County Commissioner say. Before you speak next time, take five minutes, open a seventh-grade sex-ed textbook and learn what hormonal birth control is. What is irresponsible about a young woman having sex? And what is irresponsible about them taking control of their own reproductive health? You know what’s irresponsible? Taking a vote on an issue you don’t understand.

  • Guestee44 says:

    Barfield, aren’t you a member of a christian church/ Don’t yoyu attend New Beginnings? Why do you have regrets that conflict with your religious choices? Make up your mind — are you a Christian, or a politician? Looks like you just wanted Christian votes.

  • Katherine M. Griffin says:

    Please take a look at our health care system that funds Viagra (and so many other remedies) for men who have ERECTILE dysfunction. Now that’s a household phrase. Being READY,for the MALE, is soooooooooooooo important. So let me get this right: The Male has the right to funds other than his in order to be “ready at a moment’s’ notice’ ” because sex is so important to him but if the object of his very natural and very publicly funded desire to be the recipient of his medically induced ability to impregnate is suddenly pregnant, it’s HER problem? Oh Come ON! You guys can probably get your own reality show since we pay to watch absurdity on t.v. these days.
    And I don’t recall ANYTHING in the BIBLE that condemns birth control. Just as Jesus said NOTHING against homosexuality, he said nothing about birth control. So, what is ” Christian” about it? Doesn’t being Christian have to do with Christ’s teachings? Doesn’t having children have something to do with being able to love them and provide for them? You are disgusting and I hope we have the courage to clean out anyone who is as disgustingly and sadly and ignorantly such patriarchs as you guys.

  • Brian says:

    Separation of church and state doctrine requires that a politician’s personal beliefs not get in the way of their decision making when it comes to what’s best for the common good.

  • Marta says:

    “I’m one of those abstinence guys….,” said Commissioner Jonathan Barfield during Monday’s meeting.

    Why do I feel Mrs. Barfield took him at his word?

  • Rocky Lane Moore says:

    Sometimes, commisioners should get an opinion from women on issues that pertain only to women. This vote will likely errode their election base and sends a message to everyone that women are inferior to men because they require contraception under special and debilitating circumstances. How can they defend their actions of denying care to women after a majority of voters cast votes to provide this resource to women. That men should interfer in the affairs of women is unfortunate. Women could easily petition for a recall and vote the current commisioners out of office. It could happen so fast that all you would see is spinning chairs as they were told to vacate the building. If any of the previous women who served on the board had been present at this vote, the men would have at least been admonished. With the water already under the bridge, I suggest a change to board membership. Either delegate one position to a woman only. Or have the Mayor appoint an ex-officio woman to the board when only men are elected to the board. It is obvious that the present all male commisioner board can not function 100% without the assistance of a woman.

  • Guest111 says:

    Sexual activity protection doesn’t just apply to women. Men should take on the responsibility, too.

  • Guest554 says:

    @Rocky Lane Moorre, Yes Maamm, You Have hit the nail on the Head. WOMAN STAND DOWN, GET IN YOUR PLACE. Dont you understand it has been due to women doing as they please is why this issue is in our face at all. Childern are murdering people. I promise you will be in your place soon. but not soon enough for me. I Tell you to Stand Down, Close Your legs until you are properly married shut your mouth. Your name should be EVE.

  • Guest1022 says:

    How can it pertain only to women when all taypayers are being asked to pay for it, male and female?

  • Guesttoday says:

    Since when did we start tying planned parenthood and contraception to morality? BTW Commissioner Davis it takes two consenting people to engage in sex so what about the man’s moral responsibility????

    “If these young women were responsible and didn’t have sex to begin with”.

    This is so disappointing that educated men would even think like this in this day and time. Do we want people to make responsible choices, well of course we do. But in the real world how many “responsible” couples have found themselves with an unplanned pregnancy. It happens in all families……and yes gasp even the good Christian families.

  • Paul says:

    Going to the government (a la fellow citizens) to pay for your personal needs is not “being responsible”. What an ironic thing for Ms. Reed to say.

  • Guest-of-the-day says:

    A woman’s decision to have sex is a personal decision and none of my (tax payer) business. With all the slipper logic presented here, you’d think the tax payer was obligatd to pay for women’s hair care products and make up too, but I doubt if you’d get any strong arguments against that idea from this crowd.

  • Guestgingergrant says:

    HOW in the world is approving grant money to support family planning “IRRESPONSIBLE”?? Isn’t using birth control the best way to avoid unwanted pregnancy…and possible (oh, no!) abortion?

    These old men need to go! And no more VIAGRA for them! Mrs. Barfield told me to say that!

  • Guest1971 says:

    Actually abstinence is the best way to prevent unwanted pregnancy.

  • Guest1165 says:

    Way to go Mikey! Too bad their parents didn’t use contraception.

  • Mike T says:

    Over 92 posts have been made on this subject and over 90% of them are from a bunch of old farts sitting around who havent gotten any,aint getting any and arent looking to get any. Contraception and this crowd mix like oil and water.

  • Commonsensenotcommontoday says:

    So we have no right to discuss how our tax dollars are spent, right?

    Mike T. – master of inconsequential, meaningless rhetoric.

  • Guest111 says:

    The mentality of your post, “gittin’ some” is exactly the problem here. Do you contribute to the protection during sex or do you not want to bother with it and let the woman take on the responsibility? And as far as old farts go, what? You think old farts haven’t lived?? I hate to bust your bubble but you idiots didn’t invent sex. It’s been around quite some time…. fool.

  • Mike Thompson says:

    First of all, I’m not in favor of tax money being used for any type of contraceptive, be it pills, IUD or condoms. And by the way, I’m very tired of seeing ON EVERY NETWORK almost every night an ad for Viagra or Cialis. There is no reason for an insurance company to be forced to provide contraceptives in health insurance. There’s no reason for taxpayers to be forced to foot the bill for contraceptives under the guise of “family planning.” Family planning means planning for your family….planning if and when to have children. If a couple wants to have intercourse without having children, that’s fine. Let them use contraceptives THAT THEY PAY FOR!! What’s hard about this people?! Some of the respondents here talk about individual responsibility, and how young girls are showing responsibility when they try to get contraceptives. I agree, and I also agree that men have a responsibility here too. AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT SHOULD BE INSTILLED IN THESE YOUNG PEOPLE EARLY ON BY THEIR FAMILIES, BY THEIR PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS!!! We have lost track of this in this society. PEOPLE, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS AND SHOW SOME RESTRAINT IN YOUR PERSONAL LIFE!!! Don’t expect the government, or taxpayers, or your insurance company to give you what you should be willing and able to provide for yourself. If you are old enough to engage in intercourse, you are old enough to know the possible consequences and you should have the initiative to take care of those consequences. IF YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE CONSEQUENCES, OR IF YOU CAN’T AFFORD THE PROTECTION, THEN DON’T HAVE THE SEX!! Again I say, what is hard about this?

  • Guester says:

    You’re not familiar with sarcasm…

  • Guest2020 says:

    It’s not the government’s responsibility to pay for birth control.

  • sherryb says:

    so why is it always on the woman’s shoulders? if all the women who can’t afford contraception, and don’t qualify for gov. supplied contraception, simply ‘witheld sex’… perhaps the men would ‘man up’, grow a d–k, and help out. This should not be a ‘woman’s issue’, it takes two to take ‘advantage’ of contreception…. this issue has been borne by women for way too long, while men just go their merry way and except everythying to be ‘taken care of’ for the.

  • Guest111 says:

    If a woman gets FREE birth control from ANY agency and gets pregnant then SHE WILL NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR WELFARE, FOODSTAMPS OR ANY FREE BENEFITS FROM THE GOVERNMENT FOR DELIVERY, HER MEDICAL OR THE BABY’S MEDICAL!!!

    Now THAT is taking responsibility!!!

  • Guest1122 says:

    Finally we have some guts to say no to the run-away irresponsible establishment. What are they going to “assist” people with next? We are living in a such a screwed up time. Why is it, If an issue deals with irresponsible sexuality or homosexuality, or any deviant perversion, and anyone has the courage to stand up and express the slightest sign of restraint or express anti-establishment views they will be crucified by the establishment and be pressured into silence. I applaud the commissioners decision and would hope more sound decisions will come out of them. And for those cry babies, pay for your own contraception.
    I am sure the bleeding harts are going to wine about disease, unwanted pregnancy, rape, insist and the war in Afghanistan, wake up, take your head out of your pants, stop with the third grade mentality.

  • Guester says:

    No more of this irresponsible sex. Only if you are married and specifically trying to procreate. That should make everyone happy because taxpayers won’t be paying for any contraceptive devices, nor will they be paying for any of these children all of these irresponsible women are having! What do you say, men? Everyone happy now?

  • Guest111 says:

    If you don’t think we will pay all the expenses for all the children of the women who breed daily then you are living in a fantasy world. We will pay for all medical visits for the mom, pay for delivery and all hospital / doctor charges, we will feed, house and put clothes on these kids till they are 18 and by then they will probably have children of their own and the cycle goes on.

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