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Columbus County Schools: Spanking and the drop-out rate

Columbus County school teachers still paddle their students, and they have one of the highest spanking-rates in the state. On the other hand, the system has one of the state's lowest dropout rates.

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The Worst of all Bad Habits

Additional educational materials:

1) "Plain Talk..."
www.nospank.net/pt2009.htm

2) "Sowing the seeds of sadomasochism"
www.nospank.net/badlesson.htm

3) "The Origin and True Purpose of the Paddle"
www.nospank.net/slavish2.pdf

4) "U.S. Schoolchildren's corporal punishment-related injuries"
www.nospank.net/injuredkids.pdf

Spanking turns one into a sadomasochist?

I don't know where you picked up this propoganda, but you need to get your OWN "bad habits" addressed before you start pushing this perverted jazz to others that simply administer discipline!!! You are one sick puppy!
The concept that paddling turns a child into a sadomasochist is absolutely rediculous. It taks much, much more of a parental influence in "many other areas" to make that happen. That is when the parent need to go to prison!
"The worst of all bad habits.", you say? Sadomasochism is simply another sexual perversion that goes along with many others, where the roots go far, far deeper than a simple paddling.
So...do you want blame parents that give their child a puppy the responsibilty for that child to evolve into a pedophile? Perhaps the parents that guided their daughter toward being an educator, forced her into a teacher/student sexual relationship? Maybe the parents that fed their poor little child a rare steak, turned him into a Jeffery Dahmer or a Ted Bundy? How bad was their, "bad habit"?

What was it that your parents REALLY did to you? You may want to consider some serious counseling!

Child buttock-battering vs. DISCIPLINE:

People used to think it was necessary to "spank" adult members of the community, military trainees, and prisoners. In some countries they still do. In our country, it is considered sexual battery if a person over the age of 18 is "spanked", but only if over the age of 18.

For one thing, because the buttocks are so close to the genitals and so multiply linked to sexual nerve centers, striking them can trigger powerful and involuntary sexual stimulus in some people. There are numerous physiological ways in which it can be sexually abusive, but I won't list them all here. One can use the resources I've posted if they want to learn more. All materials listed may be accessed at the website of Parents and Teachers Against Violence In Education at www.nospank.net.

Child buttock-battering vs. DISCIPLINE:

Child buttock-battering (euphemistically labeled "spanking","swatting","switching","smacking", "paddling",or other cute-sounding names) for the purpose of gaining compliance is nothing more than an inherited bad habit.

Its a good idea for people to take a look at what they are doing, and learn how to DISCIPLINE instead of hit.

I think the reason why television shows like "Supernanny" and "Dr. Phil" are so popular is because that is precisely what many (not all) people are trying to do.

There are several reasons why child bottom-slapping isn't a good idea. Here are some good, quick reads recommended by professionals:

Plain Talk About Spanking
by Jordan Riak,

The Sexual Dangers of Spanking Children
by Tom Johnson,

NO VITAL ORGANS THERE, So They Say
by Lesli Taylor M.D. and Adah Maurer Ph.D.

Most compelling of all reasons to abandon this worst of all bad habits is the fact that buttock-battering can be unintentional sexual abuse for some children. There is an abundance of educational resources, testimony, documentation, etc available on the subject that can easily be found by doing a little research with the recommended reads-visit the website of Parents and Teachers Against Violence In Education at www.nospank.net.

Just a handful of those helping to raise awareness of why child bottom-slapping isn't a good idea:

American Academy of Pediatrics,
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry,
American Psychological Association,
Center For Effective Discipline,
Churches' Network For Non-Violence,
Nobel Peace Prize recipient Archbishop Desmond Tutu,
Parenting In Jesus' Footsteps,
Global Initiative To End All Corporal Punishment of Children,
United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child.

In 26 countries, child corporal punishment is prohibited by law (with more in process). In fact, the US was the only UN member that did not ratify the Convention on the Rights of the Child.

Your conclusion sums it up extremely well....

....so pick one of the 26 countries, pack all of your stuff up including your out of control kids, your mamby pamby theories and move there as quickly as possible!!!

Let me explain a few simple facts here. Children are very smart. They will test you, provoke you and push well beyond the limits to get what they want. This cannot be eliminated by measly time-outs or privelege take-aways. Sometimes a little pain does a lot of good to get attention! Otherwise you will be ignored and the behavior will not only continue, but it will gain more intensity.

It appears to me that you've done a lot of research to figure out your own sexual deviations, so good luck with that, but don't put that perverted guilt trip on everyone else that simply needs to administer basic discipline. I telling you that the paddles I've had, and the pops on the a** I got from my father did absolutely nothing to spark any sort of sexual fantasies with me, I only wanted to figure out how to keep it from happening again (stop the behavior, maybe??? Duhhh).

But then again there will always be those that get their jollies in mysterious ways.....

I've never heard such bull-pelosi in my life!

Other effects of child bottom-slapping/battering:

Researchers and experts have also found that children who are hit demonstrate more aggression as adults, as well as diminished self-discipline, anti-social behavior, and delayed empathy development.

Kids learn by example

You said it. Kids are smart. We teach them to solve their problems with others with words not fists. Responsible parents and teachers teach children from a very early age that hitting is not acceptable behavior. How does hitting them in school reinforce that idea? It doesn't. What it shows them is that hitting is the only effective way adults have to solve difficult behavioral problems. If that is an appropriate way for those in authority to behave, then why wouldn't they follow that logic and lash out physically when they felt they were being treated badly by their peers? And, ironically, the punishment for fighting would be more spanking and so the cycle continues.

Nobody said anything about fists or beating.....

...but the fact is that there are many kids nowadays are out of control, they have no manners and will smirk about it if corrected. Good parenting will teach the child the difference between right and wrong at an early age. If they miss out on that opportunity, it's over and a long haul of problems are ahead. Good parenting should mean telling your child "NO!" and they obey, but if you have to do that over and over and over, it's time to "Pop their Narrow A***" and get some results! Physical punishment is not a first instance response at home or at school, but at times, it is sometimes neccessary to inflict a little pain, a little humility and show who makes the rules. The scariest thing my mother used to say was, "...alright, just wait until your father gets home!" Of course, I was lucky enough to be raised by my mother instead of a day care center worker. BIG difference!

So, the example is set by the parent who attempts to give ordinary commands to their kids to follow their orders without them following them? Doubtful, no lesson learned except there is no risk and no accountability for disobedience.

Is the example set by the parent that decides to "Pop their narrow A**" after repeated requests? You're darned tootin' there are!

This isn't an easy world of fruity rainbows, butterfies and unicorns we live in. If you don't teach your children to use manners respect and dignity, they will quickly face those that WILL use their fists, knock your kid slam out and walk away smiling about it with valid reason.

spanking never worked on my kids

Rewarding kids for good behavior definitely gets the best results. Praise them for the good things they do will get you more of the good behavior. AND the kids are happy and they have a real relationship with you. It builds confidence and self esteem, which is what they need to be able to make good decisions as adults. They need to know what they are doing RIGHT! and focus on that. How do you feel when all you get is an earful of what you are doing wrong all the time? Tell them that you are proud of them, that they are smart in math or reading, or whatever it is they are good at. Tell them you appreciated their good behavior in the restaurant, and how nice it was to enjoy being with them at the store with no arguments or whining and fighting! Kids want to please, but they need to be taught what is pleasing so they don't have to test you on it!

If punishment is needed the only thing that works for my kids is a warning, then time out. They know not to fuss when in time out or they stay there longer. I am very strict on this and most important I am consistent!

first offense- a verbal warning, told consequences of repeating the offense and why they aren't to do it again.

second offence- verbally told to go to time out and why. Also they are told how long they will stay there. They must remain quiet in time out or the time clock starts over. It doesnt need to be a LONG time in time out either.

When they come out of time out we again calmly discuss why they were in time out and discuss what the consequences are if they do it again.

Generally another offense will get them a loss of video game time or some other thing that they want to do. YES I LIMIT their video game time to 1 hour a day! They also have to earn it by doing all their homework and behaving in school that day.

I have tried spanking. The only thing it does is make them angry and resentful and scared of their parent. I don't want my kids scared of me. I want them to trust me. If there is no trust, I have no influence. It also teaches them it's okay to hit people. Face it, kids learn by example. Dont be a hippocrate!

My kids are fantastic. They are very well behaved and they know that I respect them as well as they respect me. They are very smart, well balanced kids and they didn't get that way by spanking.

it should be the school's

it should be the school's responsibility to provide their policy at the beginning of the year with a form. The form should have their policy clearly stated and unless the parent checks OPT IN, the child should not be subject to it. There are some parents who are unaware or not paying attention to the policy, so the district should automatically NOT hit these kids. IN addition to the OPT IN, it should be the schools responsibility to call the parent each and every time before a child is struck. If a parent cannot be reached, they should not hit. Why should the parent have to remember to send in a form to OPT OUT, it's the school's responsibilty to clearly state the policy. School districts that have this at all are opening themselves to a wide range of lawsuits - in the end the taxpayers have to fork out money.. POsitive behavior supports work if implemented correctly. What about children who have a learning disability or undiagnosed medical issue - do they hit those kids too? I sure hope not. What about kids who are having a difficult home life - maybe school is the only place they can get a reprieve - and they are acting out do to an issue. This is not conducive to a healthy or safe learning environment. The low drop out rate has nothing to do with physical punishment. And there are even some studies out there that suggest the more physical punishment is used in a school system, the more drop outs there are. The news station should report on these findings so people can become informed