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VOTE 2010: NC Democrats - Pantano changes stories

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THE FOLLOWING IS A NEWS RELEASE FROM THE NORTH CAROLINA DEMOCRATIC PARTY

RALEIGH, NC – In this afternoon’s Star News, Ilario Pantano’s campaign for Congress did a 180 degree about-face on the charges that they edited their campaign television ads to cover up Pantano’s controversial past. In previous responses, the campaign said they edited the commercials to ensure they remained within 30 second limits, but NOW they say the edits were designed to hide specific information that they no longer believe is “relevant.”

The information selectively edited out of their commercial included Pantano’s past work at Goldman Sachs and his being charged with murder.

“It’s now increasingly clear that Ilario Pantano thinks he should be the judge of which parts of his past are subject to public scrutiny,” said Andrew Whalen, Executive Director of the North Carolina Democratic Party. “First, Pantano said he was editing away his past to fit into the time of a commercial, but now it’s clear that was another lie. He edited out his controversial past because he didn’t think it was ‘relevant’ for voters to know, and then he lied about hiding his past because he was worried he’d been caught. Between the changing stories and the rewritten histories, it’s becoming increasingly clear how dangerous the real Ilario Pantno really is.”

When the video editing first came to light on September 24th, Pantano’s campaign asserted they were merely edited to fit into the 30 second time window for the commercial.

Background

Today’s Star News reports that Ilario Pantano deliberately edited his television commercials to hide his controversial past working at Goldman Sachs and being charged with murder in Iraq and cited for failing morals and judgment. [Star News, 10/5/10]

Yesterday the Start news reported that North Carolina Democrats urged Pantano to apologize for selectively editing commercials to hide his past. [Star news, 10/4/10]

Tea Party Activist Endorses Democrat in NC. “A leading tea party activist broke ranks Monday to endorse Democratic Rep. Mike McIntyre, expressing concern about a Republican challenger who was once charged with murder.” [Associated Press, 10/4/10]

N.C. Republican edits out controversial bio details in new ad. “A North Carolina House candidate is using edited news footage in his latest TV ad. Republican Ilario Pantano, a former Marine who's challenging Rep. Mike McIntyre (D-N.C.), cut from the clips mentions of how he was once charged with murder of two Iraqi civilians while serving during in combat there and that he had worked for the investment bank Goldman Sachs.” [The Hill, 9/24/10]

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US Marines

The US Marines I have known for three generations are peacekeepers, not murders. The unarmed men that Iliaro Pantano shot in the back should have been taken to prison, not shot in the back repeatedly. Mr Pantano had a melt down on the battlefield and should receive treatment for anger management, not be elected to Congress. It does not matter where he is from, he brought disgrace to the USA and to the USMC. We do not need someone in Congress who may have a melt down in congress.

Apparently only narrow

Apparently only narrow minded and bigoted Liberals post here. All the posts against Pantano have the same tone, that he is not from North Carolina and therefor is incapable of being a good Congressman. How sad for you that you cannot see past your bigotry and realize that Ilario is a war hero who served multiple tours in Iraq while you sat in the comfort of your living room and complained about the damn yankees. Then there is the obviously staged momo who claims to be a Republican that will vote a straight Republican ticket for everyone except Pantano. There is NO WAY this clown is a Republican when he can write the utter dribble and nonsense and hate filled ignorance that he wrote. A zillion rounds? Really? A bit of an exaggeration maybe? Scare-dee cat? Really? Multiple volunteer tours of Iraq. I guess I can see where you got that. Ilario Pantano is better educated than 95% of the state but you sit on your couch and cast dispersions on his intellect, character and birthplace. How tall that must make you feel.

Pantano should just admit ti

Pantano should just admit it, he is a Toyota Prius driving backward dancing yellow chicken. He claims he shot them 100 zillion times because he was scared they were going to kill him.

no wonder he got a job at the Sheriffs department, isnt that why Chris Long escaped justice for shooting that boy through the front door? Scared?

yeah thats right, just who I want in congress a scaredy cat. More fear, more death, more bad mojo.

And Im a republican!!!! Im voting straight republican EXCEPT that new yorker.

Hey momo, that's the best

Hey momo, that's the best you got? That Pantano is a New Yorker? Wow doesn't that just show your intelligence. The fact that he is a war hero and far better educated than 95% of the people and a proven leader and businessman means nothing to you. What is important to your feeble and narrow mind is that he is from New York and not born in North Carolina. Wow, I feel sorry for you that you are so small minded and bigoted that you cannot see the forest for the trees and realize that Mr. Pantano is imminently qualified to hold the office of Congressman.

Pantano Is Selling A Dream, and the Republicans Are Buying

Pantano's Article 32 Hearing, all 700+ pages of it, are on the internet for your review. And it is easy to see how his case didn't proceed to trial...we see this type of thing in the news all the time. High profile criminals who you know in every fiber of your being are guilty, but the witnesses are either afraid or had their credibility questioned - or rogue cops who are allowed to wreak havoc because other cops are afraid to "cross the thin, blue line". Don't think even for a moment that Pantano is not guilty of exactly what he was charged with. I only wish they would reopen the case, because he does not deserve to be walking around free, much less running for US Congress. How can he even justify what happened by calling it "self-defense"? The Iraqi civilians were not coming TOWARDS Pantano; otherwise, they would not have been shot in the BACK. Their handcuffs had been removed and they were commanded to search their own vehicle, while Pantano was watching them. The other two servicemen were facing away from them, standing guard, per Pantano. As soon as the other two servicemen had their backs turned, Pantano unloaded his gun into both Iraqi civilians, reloaded his gun, and then unloaded his gun again. Their bodies were found still facing AWAY from him, the first one had fallen into the car, and his head was lying in the front floor board of the car. The second one had fallen in through the rear door of the car, and was found clutching the back seat. They were not running away, they were facing away, searching their own car, as instructed by Pantano. By the way, if someone is suspected of possessing weapons on their person or in their vehicle, they are not normally allowed to search their own vehicle. Also, my issue is not with servicemen conducting missions appropriately and under standard operating procedures, because I am also a veteran. My issue is with someone who is dishonorable and untrustworthy…veteran or not, especially when they are asking to represent the people of my state.

It is beyond imagination

It is beyond imagination that our military would EVER lie to us about an event...

Facts

Ilario's accuser was Colburn, a subordinate that Ilario had given a carrier ending unsatisfactory Sitrep to shortly before these allegations were brought up. Where are you going with your rouge cop comment, is he a rouge cop too? Did you read all 700 pages? What did they find in the building that these innocent Koran salesmen just left before they were detained? I hope the Republicans are buying it, its all we can afford after a few years of Democratic leadership

nc voter

RIGHT ON ! Pantano killed these 2 men whether he wants to call it murder is not the issue, it happened. PANTANO SHOT 2 MEN IN THE BACK, THEN LEFT A SIGN HE WROTE ON THEIR BODIES WITH A MESSAGE TO OTHERS. SICK STUFF.

So Das, you think the autopsy report is lying?

The Armed Forces Pathological Institute in Dover conducted autopsies and concluded that Pantano's version of the events is supported by the forensic evidence. What could they possibly gain by lying about it?

BTW, I'm assuming that you never went to war, but I can personally assure you that enemy forces are engaged from the front, back, side, top, and at any angle you can to kill them.

It's very easy to forget that these two men had just left a house that contained a large stash of weapons and explosives. These were NOT poor, innocent Iraqis. They were enemy troops in every sense of the word, and Pantano was totally justified in firing at them under the rules of engagement...

...which is exactly what the JAG office had concluded.

You may not like the guy, you don't have to vote for the guy, but unless you've been in the situation he found himself in and are formally trained in the Law of War, please don't try to second guess his actions.

The morgue in Dover AFB disagrees with you, Will

According to the Armed Forces Pathological Institute in Dover, they were heading toward Pantano. The autopsy, which was conducted a year after the incident, well after the Article 32 investigation was concluded, found that the physical evidence "...corroborated 2nd Lt. Pantano's version of the events."

Then there's that itty-bitty detail of the JAG office recommending that all charges be dropped against Pantano, save one minor charge of conduct unbecoming an officer for placing the sign on the bodies. Major General Huck thought that was ludicrous, and dropped it as well.

So to believe your claptrap we have to conclude that the Armed Forces Pathological institute is lying and that the Marine Corps is lying. In a war where servicemen were routinely hammered left and right when they dared to be even politically incorrect, let alone violate the Laws of War, Pantano was the golden boy. He escaped all charges.

I may be voting for McIntyre, but I'm starting to feel awfully sleazy just from the company I'm keeping.

Pantano Spin Machine

Just because someone has an issue with Pantano's character, it does not automatically mean that they feel that McIntyre is such a great candidate either. November elections aside, Pantano is nothing more than a salesman who is "selling fast talk to slow thinking people". Hasn't anyone ever wondered why he hasn't run for office in his own state of New York?

Maybe it's because...

"Hasn't anyone ever wondered why he hasn't run for office in his own state of New York?"

>he isn't a resident of the state of New York but lives here.

Resident

Yes, he's lived here all of what, a little over 5 years now? Wow! Just another Northern transplant that THINKS they know what NC needs!

Using your "logic"...

makes me think the residents of the state of New York must feel the same way about Hillary Clinton...except she's a Southern transplant. I'm sure they felt she knew what NY needed.

And?

Who really cares, Pantano, what the people of New York feel about Hillary Clinton? Not my problem. North Carolina is.

Mcintyre sleaze-dem mediocrity

What the dems and Marvelous Mike wont tell you is that he is solidly aligned with PELOSI and the arrogant extremists who now control DC.
Do you remember Obama care--the louisiana purchase-the deal with Nelson of Nebraska-which even his own constitutents were disgusted with. Marvelous Mike is part of that crowd. When Eric Holder allows racism to foster in the Justice dept= have we heard anything from Mad Mike--No. Will Mad Mike staND AGAINST EXCESSIVE TAXES AND SPENDING IN FUTURE IF REELECTED-NO. DO WE WANT TO GIVE OBAMA MORE DEMS WHO WILL PLAY ALONG TO GET ALONG--NO
This is a party I once supported but while reps arent perfect--Pantano is a helluva lot better than Mad Mike and his arrogant band of Dems

Buy a clue!

McIntyre voted AGAINST Obamacare.

He also had nothing whatsoever to do with **SENATE** dealings relative to the preferential treatment for Nebraska and Louisiana. McIntyre is a Congressman, and doesn't serve in the Senate.

I'm beginning to think that the average voter in this district is totally dishonest or incredibly stupid.

Why can no one on either side tell the truth? Why all the lies about Pantano? Why all the lies about McIntyre.

Why don't any of you start telling us the GOOD THINGS about your own candidate?

Common...

you and I both know his vote wasn't needed. The Dems had enough votes to pass this boondoggle of a bill without his vote. Maybe you're a vet and have Tricare-for-Life. Most of us don't. I pay for my own health insurance, am quite pleased with it, but future premium increases will be astronomical due to the mandated requirements in the law.

Health insurance premiums are a direct reflection of health care costs coupled with usage. Health insurance was never meant to pay for office visits. You can thank the unions for requiring this provision with regards to their health insurance when contracts were negotiated.

Does you car insurance pay for oil changes and tire rotations? No it doesn't...just the same as health insurance shouldn't pay for office visits. Just because you have a co-pay doesn't meant that's the total cost of the visit. The insurance company pays the lion's share of the cost even after it's been re-priced. The reimbursement rate from the insurance companies, especially with Medicare patients, has dropped so low that many primary care physicians are no longer taking new Medicare patients. The amount the physician receives from Medicare doesn't cover their costs.

I've admired your common sense replies on many topics on this website. But to continue to come to McIntyre's defense on the issue of the healthcare vote amazes me.

Taxpayer

I agree with every negative comment you make regarding Obamacare. It's an outrage, and my money says that the Supreme Court boots it.

I know, however, that McIntyre was threatened, cajoled, offered incentives, told he'd never rise in the party leadership and that's not only on Obamacare. The same thing happened on Cap-n-Trade. I've also pointed out in the past that he's a solid supporter of the military and Second Amendment, which also doesn't endear him to the Commies in charge.

He's getting my vote because he voted correctly, and I promised him that vote....but that didn't stop me from sounding off to his office about the Pantano/Fair Tax lying commercial that he has since pulled.

As you can see from my other posts, I have no serious problems with Pantano. If he wins, I won't be crying in my beer. I'm not too wild about his messiah complex, however; as a freshman Congressman, he's not going to save diddly-squat, but he's talking a good fight and I actually wish him luck.

Like I say, though, it would be nice to see people start posting about why they ARE voting for McIntyre or Pantano, instead of telling us why they hate the other guy.

You're only partially correct at best....

Your statement, "Health insurance premiums are a direct reflection of health care costs coupled with usage.", is quite innaccurate.

Try this, "Health insurance premiums are a direct reflection of health care costs coupled with usage, the skyrocketing costs of prescriptions, the overwhelming burden of providing free healthcare to illegal aliens, their children and others that refuse to be responsible and purchase coverage."

Your dialogue in this post makes it sound as if the poor little insurance companies are taking the "big hit" and are losing money. Sorry Charlie, that is not the case! Insurance companies don't lose money! Are you kidding? They would simply fold up their business and find something elso to do with a huge profit margin.

It is "US", the hard working, responsible individuals that are taking "the hit"!!! It shows up in every paycheck I receive, every doctors visit I complete and every trip I make to the pharmacy.

Haven't you noticed?

Better check those profit margins

Insurance, as an industry, does NOT enjoy large profit margins at all. They are actually small, relative to many other industries.

That's due, in part, to the requirement to maintain high liquid cash balances to pay claims. So yes, they have high revenue, but they have a relatively low profit.

Also don't forget that it's not only illegals who are sucking the system dry. We have far more American citizens doing nothing but spitting out babies, collecting TANF and Medicaid, than we do illegals....

...and that's just the way the Democrats want it....

Guest461...

My use of the term "usage" includes all of what you described...especially the free care provided to illegals. However, insurance companies have lost money in past years. As far as their profit margin, the net profit for health insurance companies is in the range of 2-3%.

My dialogue did not imply the insurance companies are the victims. I merely pointed out that as mandated benefits increase, the only recourse is to charge more for the product. As their costs increase, the selling price does the same.

If I may ask, what is your solution to the problem?

Pantano's Honor

I have met Ilario personally and he has never tried to hied his past when I was around him. He has honor, courage, and strength that I can only hope to have one day. I am only 17 now but the reason I think that I HAVE A REASON for being involved with this election is if you look at the rill national dept EVERY person, thats you and me, owe over 300,000 $ to the government. As for you liberal progressive democrats if you have any love for this country you would stop were you are and get on your knees and beg for forgiveness from God and man. ( I think this " tea party woman " was drinking something besides tea.{see below} )

Below is part of a news organization web article witch can be found at.
http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-raleigh/deborah-johns-terminated...

"Tea Party Express Clarifies Role of Former Vice Chair, Deborah Johns

Several news media outlets today reported on Deborah Johns' decision to oppose the candidacy of Republican congressional candidate (and Iraq war veteran) Ilario Pantano and cited Ms. Johns former role as Vice Chair of the Tea Party Express.

Ms. Johns was terminated last year by the Tea Party Express for cause. We do not agree with her views regarding Mr. Pantano one bit. We wish to make it clear that she has absolutely no involvement with the tea party activities of the Tea Party Express, nor will she ever in the future.

It is our understanding that Ms. Johns was similarly terminated from her position with Combat Veterans for Congress and no longer is associated with their organization as well.

We find Ms. Johns' comments towards a proud Iraq war veteran abhorrent and reprehensible. They do not speak for our organization nor reflect our views in any way, shape or form."

yeah

Nice post Ilario.

Pantano

I think it is about time Pantano stops trying to hide his past, Wake up NC, do you want someone to represent you that has not held a job
since 2007? What about murder in Iraq, working for Goldman Sachs, You better think twice before you go to the polls. If he is elected,
no doubt he will hide things from us, that seems to be his pattern.
Since he is advoiding certain issues, he is not one I would like to see represent me, how about you?

OMG!!! He worked for Goldman Sachs???!!!

Oh Amy, what could be worse? If he worked for BP?

Since when did working for a premier investment bank become a stain on someone's record?

Tell us Amy, where have you worked...or have you even held a job yet?

God help this country....

That would be a resounding "YES"!

Yes Amy...Pantano's EXACTLY who I want representing me!

Murder in Irag? Give me a break...he was vindicated through "no evidence"...why? because there WAS NO EVIDENCE. Pantano was subjected to that inquisition solely on the testimony of a disgruntled underling whom he had demoted. The same guy changed his story so many times, the prosecution was completely embarrassed!

Working for Goldman Sachs? Get real! Long ago and far away. Do you have any idea how many of Obama's staff and czars worked for Goldman Sachs? Here are the FACTS:

As the New York Post reported, the Democratic National Committee bought sponsored Internet ads on Google that direct web surfers who type in “Goldman Sachs SEC” to Obama’s fundraising site.

– Former Goldman Sachs lobbyist Mark Patterson serves under Geithner as his top deputy and overseer of TARP bailout — $10 BILLION of which went to GOLDMAN SACHS.

While President Obama assails the culture of greed and recklessness practiced by the men of Goldman Sachs, his administration is infested with them. The White House can no more disown Government Sachs than he can disown Chicago politics. Obama has relied on Goldman Sachs and Wall Street power brokers to engineer massive government interventions to “rescue” failing businesses with the tax dollars of ordinary Americans. The class-warfare Dems are also mum on all the president’s Goldman Sachs men sitting in the catbird’s seat:

– Goldman Sachs partner Gary Gensler is Obama’s Commodity Futures Trading Commission head. He was confirmed despite heated congressional grilling over his role, as Reuters described it, “as a high-level Treasury official in a 2000 law that exempted the $58 trillion credit default swap market from oversight. The financial instruments have been blamed for amplifying global financial turmoil.” Gensler said he was sorry — hey, it worked for tax cheat Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner.

– Goldman Sachs kept White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel on a $3,000 monthly retainer while he worked as Clinton’s chief fundraiser, as first reported by Washington Examiner columnist Tim Carney. The financial titans threw in another $50,000 to become the Clinton primary campaign’s top funder. Emanuel received nearly $80,000 in cash from Goldman Sachs during his four terms in Congress — investments that have reaped untold rewards, as Emanuel assumed a leading role championing the trillion-dollar TARP banking bailout law.

– Obama’s close hometown crony, campaign finance chief and senior adviser Penny Pritzker was head of Superior Bank of Chicago, a subprime specialist that went bust in 2001, leaving more than 1,400 people stripped of their savings after bank officials falsified profit reports. Pritzker’s lawyer at O’Melveny and Myers, Tom Donilon, is now Obama’s deputy national security adviser. He earned just shy of $4 million representing her and other high-profile meltdown clients including Goldman Sachs.

– White House National Economic Council head Larry Summers reaped nearly $2.8 million in speaking fees from many of the major financial institutions and government bailout recipients he now polices, including JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Lehman Brothers and Goldman Sachs. A single speech to Goldman Sachs in April 2008 brought in $135,000. Summers has prior experience negotiating government-sponsored bailouts that benefit private concerns. In 1995, he spearheaded a $40 billion Mexican peso bailout that bypassed Congress. Summers personally leaned on the International Monetary Fund to provide nearly $18 billion for the package. Summers’ boss, then Secretary of the Treasury Robert Rubin, was former co-chairman of Wall Street giant Goldman Sachs — the Mexican government’s investment banking firm of choice.

Rubin continues to mentor another former employee of his with regular visits and chats — Treasury Secretary Geithner, who was head of the New York Federal Reserve, which pushed bailed-out insurance conglomerate AIG to cover up sweetheart deals for investment banks that benefited, you guessed it, Goldman Sachs.

YOU SHOULD DO A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH BEFORE FLAUNTING UNEDUCATED OPINIONS TO THE PUBLIC.