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Perdue vetoes health plan, student loan bills

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RALEIGH, NC (AP) -- Gov. Bev Perdue has vetoed two bills, including one that would have required monthly premiums for all active North Carolina state workers and teachers for health insurance.

Perdue spokeswoman Chrissy Pearson said Wednesday that Perdue vetoed a proposal that would have closed a more than $500 million shortfall for the State Health Plan for the next two years. Perdue said Republican leaders left out retired workers and teachers' groups from the discussion of the bill.

Perdue also vetoed a measure that allowed community college campuses to opt out of participating in a federal student loan program. She said the bill would have denied students the opportunity to get an education.

Perdue has now vetoed four bills in 2011 -- the most ever by a North Carolina governor in a year.

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I don't like Perdue either, but

she vetoed it because "Republicans" excluded retired workers and teachers groups from paying their share. Whats wrong with them paying their share???? I'm tired of paying for it, you should be too!

she said they left them out

she said they left them out of the discussion, not from paying their share!!!!

Gov Perdue Veto

This was to be expected from this liberal governor. After all, these represent a threat to her progressive spending policies. She needs to be voted out at the next opportunity.

The way she defends

teachers and all of their perks, you must wonder if some teacher has pictures of her in a compromising situation.

Where does she think the money is going to come from?

She & the legislature have not even begun to address teh gross underfunding of the state employee retirement fund.

The State begins interest only payments, during 2011, of about $143 MILLION on the money borrowed during her administration and that of Big Mike, for Medicaid.

The reality is she has not come up with a plan to deal with the budget mess she helped create. Ten years as Governor and Lt Governor. Prior to that, she was in the Senate and played a key role in the budget process.

Look where the state finances are now.

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What perks?

Insurance

The free medical insurance they currently receive is one large perk.

If you add up the entire

If you add up the entire compensation package teachers receive, NC still ranks among the lowest paid teachers in the nation. Public employees generally receive lower cash salaries than those in the private sector, but are offered more generous benefit packages to make up for the lower pay. If you take away these benefits, who in their right mind would choose to go into public service? We need quality people to teach our children, police our streets, and respond when our house is on fire or we have a medical emergency. Treating these people like they're sponging off the public is truly biting the hand that feeds you.

Why don't you aim some of that criticism towards those who support the continuing Bush-era tax breaks for those earning over $250,000, while at the same time demanding that Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid be cut. They want these "perks" for the rich and upper middle-class to remain, while demanding the the poor and lower middle-class sacrifice for the good of the country. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Free heath insurance for an employee is being offered by employers less frequently these days, but is still fairly common. I work for a small private company (2 owners and 5 employees), and we receive free haelth insurance as a part of our compensation.

More wealth envy, I see

Exactly why should a "rich person' have to pay a higher percentage of income tax than you?

The top 10% of earners in this country pay 70% of all personal income taxes. That's straight from the treasury.

The top 50% of wage earners pay over 97% of all personal income taxes, while the bottom 50% pay less than 3% of all income taxes. 48% of Americans pay no income tax at all!!!!!

So let's put this in a perspective you might understand. The top wage earners actually EARN their money. The poor don't pay any taxes, but they enjoy a quality of life that is astounding compared to truly poor people across the globe. Ours have discounted apartments, free medical care, free cellular phones, food vouchers, heating fuel vouchers...the list is endless.

So who SHOULD feel the pain of budget cuts - the people who actually work and EARN their money, or the deadbeats, moochers, lazy, unlucky or totally incompetent slugs who sit around all day sucking at the teat of government dependence?

The rich solution

Yes, we should place another tax on the evil rich. They worked hard (some were lucky with inheritance or the lottery) to get what they have so we should take it from them. If you really want to talk salary's, look into the starting rate for a police officer. Maybe $34k a year. That is the pay for an officer to protect, with his/her life, people they don't even know. That is a true shame but a completely different topic.

I have never worked anywhere with completely paid insurance. I've been with my current employer, a world wide corporation, for over a decade and have always had to pay my share for insurance. We also haven't had a raise in years and the employee portion of the insurance cost goes up every year.

So if you want to call it a perk for a rich person to keep what they have earned, we have vastly different definitions of the word perk. Don't spread my wealth, instead spread my work ethic.

AMEN to THAT

quit spreading the wealth of the hard working and maybe they will work harder; create more jobs; and stimulte the economic recovery.

And let's get those permanent entitlement recipients, who are physically and mentally able to work should be banished from the dole and forced to accept legitimate employment.

My point is the more

My point is the more conservative republicans fought hard to keep Bush's "temporary" tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans, and and the same time are proposing cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. They are wanting to put more of a burden on those that can least afford it while giving tax breaks to those who can most afford it.

I've been in both the public and private sectors for the last 20 years. All my public sector jobs paid 100% of employee health insurance. About half my private sector jobs paid 100% of insurance, and the others paid 50%. But by far, I made substantially greater amounts of money in the private sector doing the same job. The public sector jobs made up some of the difference for the lower pay by giving me better benefits. And now they want to take that away from them too?

WHAT FREE INSURANCE

There is no "free insurance"..that is as ingnorant as the legistlators who tried to pass this on the backs on working families. Insurance is a part of compensation package for lower than standard wages. Family coverage is not free by any means and indiviuals pay into plans that are offered now that are more comprehensive. Do you pay to park where you work? University employees do! How's that for taxing working families. How would you like to spend that kind of money to actually have to PAY to park for the priviledge of going to work...not get any cost of living increase for your family for four years, have to pay into a retirement system mandatorily of 6% of your income and then have the legislators tell you you are NOT contributing or paying your share. That is bull friends. No sir. State employees do their share and then some and our governor held the line. How bout we have elected officials who hold the line on corporations and those who's incomes are greater than 250,000$ who are NOT paying their share and have shelters and other means to avoid paying..oh yeah..they are the ones you all just elected so that ain't gonna happen!

You seem to keep forgetting

You seem to keep forgetting that State Employees havan't had a raise since 2008! The still live of pay from 2008 even with gas prices doubling since then. Just think about it...

which is a state benefit...

This free health care you seem to begrudge has always been one of the benefits of working for the state, an incentive for taking a lower salary in exchange for benefits. I would gladly contribute to my health insurance if I could be paid as the professional that I am. My six years in college spent earning an advanced degree could be much more monetarily rewarded in the private sector. Suggesting that "free" health care is just one more thing these greedy, free-loading teachers get is insulting to my profession, my students, and to the state as my employer.

This is the reason good teachers are choosing to leave the profession. Weakened benefits, the 45th lowest teacher's salary in the country, and constant negativity from the public about failing education falling on the shoulders of the classroom teacher is a difficult pill to swallow from those who've never stepped in a classroom. I challenge you to walk a week in the shoes of any one of us.

They should have to pay

They should have to pay their part like everyone else does.

Well...now that "Smiley"...

has vetoed two more bills, she sure "bought" a lot of votes from the state employees. I hope the legislature has enough votes to override her veto of the health insurance premium bill. Otherwise, we the taxpayers will be footing an additional $500 Million.