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FIRST ON 3: MLK back open after man rescued from marsh below

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WILMINGTON, NC (WWAY) -- Firefighters rescued a man who jumped from MLK Parkway into the marsh below. MLK was shutdown heading out of downtown for more than an hour as they worked.

A New Hanover County Sheriff's Office spokesman says a deputy stopped to check on a possible broken down vehicle on the side of MLK near the McRae Street exit around 9 a.m. When the deputy pulled over, there was no one in the vehicle. When she walked around, she looked down and saw a man in the marsh.

A Wilmington Fire Department spokesman says the man tried to commit suicide by jumping, but failed. Investigators are still trying to figure out how he fell or if he jumped.

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Being a dope is your strong suit

Your comments make you sound like a clown....haha...write more...

M-60? XM-218?

Yeah, now I understand. You're ex-military. That explains it.

Who are you to say this guy didn't "TRULY deserve it" (compassion)? Have you walked in his shoes? You don't even know his circumstances and you're already judging him and crucifying him at the stake?

Sounds to me like you're trying to play God with people's lives by deciding who is worthy to be saved or not, and you're more worried about the almighty dollar than getting someone the help they need. You sound like more of a "nut" than the guy who jumped. I swear, I sometimes think the wrong people are on the outside of the metal doors.

Hey? Wait a second...

I'm ex-military and I have nothing but compassion for the poor guy who jumped! I just loathe some of these people commenting. I mean, they log on and leave a comment saying basically this, "Hi, I'm a mean-spirited boob and wanted everyone to know this about me. I'm not brave. I'm not thoughtful, nor honorable, I'm just a heartless half-wit with too much time on my hands."

See if you can keep up here

Since we're talking about *MY* compassion, *I* will decide who deserves it.

Questions?

Yeah

Yeah, are you the only one who thinks your NOT an a**hole? Judging by the responses I've read here, I would answer a resounding "YES".

You are a sad excuse for a human being.

you have mine.

you have mine.

Compassion? Try Realism.

Lets be realistic, am I compassionate to the fact the guy may need some help, yes, sure, we all should have the right to seek medical treatment. However, if he needed help there are hundreds of ways to seek it or cry for help. This wasted countless resources, including police, who could have been spending their time SEARCHING FOR CRIMINALS instead of playing negotiator to someone with a mental problem.

I also feel he should be financially responsible for causing such a disturbance. Regardless of his mental state. Who knows, maybe he's fine and was just practicing the MLK High Dive. Either way, he needs to pay.

Spoken like a true Nazi.

Spoken like a true Nazi.

Sorry

Sorry, jeffnow. I was responding to another post and hit the wrong button. Just wanted to let you know I totally agree with you!

Realistic?

You want realism? OK. Here it is.

I have a brother who is a paranoid schizophrenic. He was put in a mental hospital at 14, and again at 28. He's never been able to hold down a full time job and attempted suicide twice. He's now in his 70's, still alive, but has never had a "normal" life.

Now add in the mix a young girl (me) who had to grow up in this environment; a young girl who had to visit mental hospitals and hear the clang of metal on metal locking behind her just to have the priviledge of seeing her own brother.

You're talking about resources and financial responsibility? My parents used all the resources available at the time and paid for everything out of their own pockets. It eventually broke them, both physically and spiritually.

As far as wasting the resources of the police, who you say could be out SEARCHING FOR CRIMINALS, the police are also there to serve and protect, and that included my brother.

Until you have been through the heartache of seeing one of your own in this kind of predicament, you really don't have the slightest clue what you are talking about.

I have agreed with you on a lot of your posts, but this isn't one of them. I think you're way out of bounds on this one.

GuestLee, I have a few serious questions

From your post it appears that your parents took responsibility for your brother. They didn't simply let him wander around causing mayhem.

What is so wrong about expecting the swamp-jumper's family to do the same after this episode?

Are you saying that your parents made a mistake in having your brother put away? Should he have been allowed to roam freely? Do you sincerely believe that he would have had anything near a "normal life" had he not been institutionalized?

I can absolutely assure you, he would not. I personally know a free-range schizophrenic who trips offline and requires a medication tune-up at Duke every year or so. His life is a history of annual job losses, suicide attempts, disappearances, etc. His mother refuses to have him institutionalized; his sister once questioned the value of having him with the family at Christmas when he spoke to no one for three days. All he did was sit in his room and cry or sleep.

I also know a manic-depressive (P.C., bi-polar) who bounces through life like a pin-ball and has been a total nightmare for her entire family and anyone who knows her. She has five kids, three of whom have been thankfully taken away from her by concerned relatives.

Yes, they are mentally ill, but we must understand that the nature of any specific illness may require restrictions on individual freedom: Active patients of drug-resistant TB are forceably hospitalized, for example.

This forty year experiment in narrowly defining who requires institutional care has meant a windfall for the psychiatric and pharmaceutical industries, but has totally failed society AND the mentally ill themselves. There are far too many sick people wandering the streets. If mentally ill people cannot live in an orderly fashion in society without creating episodes such as the one under discussion, then they need to be removed from society and institutionalized.

I'm sure it wasn't easy for your parents, but they likely felt that way as well. Do you believe they made a mistake regarding your brother?

To answer your questions

It's really none of your business, but because I know I'm speaking with someone who is severely damaged, I will make an exception in your case.

Although my parents took responsibility for my brother, there were many episodes where they couldn't watch him every minute. He did cause a few cases of "mayhem", as do most schizophrenics (as did this jumper). As a young girl, I remember the Police being called on a few occasions. I remember crying my eyes out when my brother was put into the back of a police car and hauled away.

I can tell you that being "institutionalized" has followed my brother around like a dark cloud for all his life. He saw sights that no one should ever have to see (we're talking about 50 years ago). Although he was schizo, he had many, many lucid times also where he seemed as normal as I do (notice I didn't say you). My brother was "put away" for about a year when he was 14, and for another year when he was 28. You make it sound like he spent most of his life in an institution, which he did not.

You may "personally know a free-range schizophrenic" and a bi-polar, but until you have lived with it and grown up with it, you know NOTHING about it.

The fact that you would ask me these kinds of questions proves to me that you are rude, insensitive and one brick shy of a full load yourself. You have the sensitivity of a wild boar.

Your original post did not start off with you questioning whether someone should be hospitalized or not; it started with you making crude comments about the poor guy being left to die. Now you're trying to turn your comments around to prove he needs to be institutionalized. I doubt you will find many people who disagree with you on that. I've caught fish who have flip-flopped less than you. Worse yet, you're someone who defends himself at every turn, and isn't man enough to admit when he's wrong....just likes to keep stirring the pot. You're done stirring it with me on this issue.

Thank you for answering some of those questions....

....avoiding most, and the many, many insults.

I have to point out, however, that they don't impact me in the least, and make your post resemble a temper tantrum rather than an educated, logically assembled reply. Then again, it appears that logic isn't welcome when it comes to this subject.

So sorry I dared to ask you some qusetions about information YOU volunteered....

No

No, what you asked me went above and beyond what I volunteered, which was really none of your business.

I could have ignored your asinine questions, but I tried to be open and honest about answering them. I doubt many people would have been as forthcoming as I was to lay their personal lives out for dissection. Sorry to disappoint, but hey, no matter what I said, it wouldn't satisfy you and you would twist anything I say.

Oh, and I think my comments DO impact you, or you wouldn't keep responding to them.

Obviously *I* must end this....

I guess the pot wasn't done being stirred? Aren't you the same GuestLee who agreed with Guest111 regarding not responding to me?

Tsk, tsk, tsk.....NO discipline, GuestLee. You can well imagine how I view that...

Let me show you how this works:

"Having just learned today that this looney-toon tried to hang himself with a rope attached to his vehicle, but was such a loser that he couldn't even tie a noose and fell into the swamp like a broken yo-yo, I refuse to further draw attention to his obvious attempt at grandstanding. Accordingly *I* am done commenting on this issue."

Good

Because you didn't have anything important to say anyway.

Obviously *I* must end this....

I guess the pot wasn't done being stirred? Aren't you the same GuestLee who agreed with Guest111 regarding not responding to me?

Tsk, tsk, tsk.....NO discipline, GuestLee. You can well imagine how I view that...

Let me show you how this works:

"Having just learned today that this looney-toon tried to hang himself with a rope attached to his vehicle, but was such a loser that he couldn't even tie a noose and fell into the swamp like a broken yo-yo, I refuse to further draw attention to his obvious attempt at grandstanding. Accordingly *I* am done commenting on this issue."

Why?

Why do you always put *I* like this? Obviously, to make yourself stand out, to make yourself feel important, and to grandstand. You really should talk with a therapist about your issues.

Oh BOY

Guess he missed the two big bridges further back down the road. I dont think you can drown in mud.