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City Council still can't come to agreement with Mandalay

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WILMINGTON, NC (WWAY) -- The City of Wilmington announced this afternoon in a news release that it still can't come to an agreement with Mandalay Baseball Properties and the Atlanta Braves to build a baseball stadium.

That means council will not be able to vote on the proposal at Tuesday's meeting, so it has pushed the vote back to September 18.

The city approved putting a $37 million bond referendum on the November ballot to raise property taxes to build the stadium.

This week, New Hanover County Commissioner Jason Thompson told us that Ripken Design showed interest in building a stadium here, too, but without taxpayer money.

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Why the rush for this stadium?

Why the rush for this stadium? Why do we keep hearing $ 37 million dollars? Did you know we can have the exact same complex here that the Myrtle Beach Pelicans have for only $ 17.9 million? (If we've absolutely got to have a stadium!)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BB%26T_Coastal_Field . The city knows this, but no one will answer why we must spend $20 million dollars more. Now who's going to pocket what... and benefit from this deal? Must be somebody..... and maybe that's why they are trying to cram it down our throats. Why isn't the press asking this question?

Good. They don't need to

Good. They don't need to come to an agreement unless there is no taxpayer dollars involved. If they insist on continuing this nonsense, then they should wait until after the election to sign any agreements. If they enter into an agreement now, then they will have that stadium regardless of the results of the referendum. They pulled this with the convention center. They put it on the ballot twice, but they had already signed the contract so they had no choice but to build it. They are pulling the same nonsense with this stadium. Wilmington voters sure didn't learn their lesson the last time.

Quit lying

What planet are u on? Don't u know that the convention center never went to the ballot and doesn't use property taxes to operate. It's funded by the hotel room tax by visitors in Wilmington. Don't listen to lies, get the facts. Center had record breaking first year and doing even better this year.

Ballot

Mary,

If I remember correctly the convention center did go to a ballot and was turned down. I also think it went to ballot twice over the years and was turned down both times.

To the Mayor:

Dear Mayor Saffo:

“Despite the delays, Mayor Bill Saffo said he is “optimistic” the agreement will be signed.

“We said we would do our due diligence,” Saffo said. “Because of that, we are taking our time. If that means an extra week or two, then so be it.””

No Mr. Mayor – no more.
This deal was touted to be the best thing since ice cream for everybody.
We would pay nothing, at first, according to THEM
Then it was them saying “Oh it won’t cost you much”
Which shortly thereafter became “All private financing is off the table”.

We weren’t mad then because we had FAITH that our city leaders would do the right thing and make it low cost to taxpayers.
We heard you say $42M was way out of line
Then at $37M that was a number that caused you to say “Mandalay has to put more skin in the game”
Then some other number came out and you said ”That number is still too high and I don’t think I can live with that number”

Now its capped at $37M and we can’t work out the details? The taxpayers can’t see this agreement?
We’ve been MORE than patient in this endeavor Mr. Mayor and we tried, we really did, to have faith in our government leaders including you and the City Council.

Now we find out there’s possibly another deal out there that would cost us nothing, on the river, on county land.
And we can’t pursue it because Mandalay has some sort of MOU involved that gives them “exclusive rights” ??
I’m sorry but that doesn’t sound like having the voters interest foremost in your mind. It makes OUR Council and OUR Mayor sound like they rushed to judgement on Mandalays deal – to the exclusion of all others.
To me, this shows very poor judgement, and a severe lack of negotiating skills.
The Mayors office, and the City Council have embarrassed themselves at OUR expense because of these developments.
ENOUGH !!!!!
Suspend negotiations and terminate the MOU with Mandalay Baseball. There’s other deals out there, and you yourself said we’re getting “interest”.
Good, it’s where the city should be – in the drivers seat.
If YOU do not take control and pull back to give us time to appraise and evaluate ALL possible deals then you and council have failed in your fiduciary duties to the citizens of this great city.
I don’t get into disagreements between City and County governments as each governing body serves a specific purpose. Your duty sir is to protect the integrity of our city, it’s citizens and our finances. By not thinking about the possibility of a new deal being out there, you, and council have FAILED US.

SHAME on you – SHAME on you ALL.
What a bitter disappointment you’ve turned out to be.
Vog

Novemeber not sooner

Will determing the funding and fate.

Fly on the Wall

Wouldn't you just love to be a fly on the wall in Mr. Saffo's office.
I bet the phones are being worked overtime. Look for the city and county to Pow-Wow soon. Braves in-Mandalay out? it could happen,stay tuned!!

The Baseball File

While I understand intricate detail to working something like this out, I believe a monkey wrench has now been thrown into the fray. If indeed this new interest is factual, it will be interesting to see what transpires. East side of the river? West side? 100K feat of shopping to go along. No taxpayer involvement? What would you choose? It sounds to me, after being rejected by the City, Ripken went ahead and did a little work and then approached the County. This should be interesting. Think about it.

Give it up, Saffo!

When the vote comes up in November this lunatic idea will be history, If baseball fans want this thing, let them pay for it. Baseball, Yawn!!