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WILMINGTON, NC (WWAY) -- A Wilmington man is behind bars after police say he stole about a dollar in change at a bank yesterday. But the way that police took Roy Smith II into custody has some asking if the they acted too harshly.

Police say around 1:30 p.m. Tuesday Smith entered the SECU on Converse Drive and held out his hand. He did not say anything to the cashier and didn't present a weapon. After a few awkward moments he ran towards a woman who was depositing money into a CoinStar machine and stole one dollar in change before running outside.

We talked with Smith in jail today. He did not seem to understand some of our questions or what happened after he went to the bank. At one point he said he didn't remember anything that happened yesterday because he didn't have his clothes on, even though he was fully clothed.

But he was clear that he did not try to rob the bank.

"I was trying to take out a checking and savings account," Smith said. "I ain't got no reason to steal nothing from nobody. Why would somebody steal a dollar?"

Wilmington Police say officers tried multiple times to get Smith to leave his vehicle peacefully, but they say he would not. Once they finally got him out, they say he would not show officers his hands. They then used what Chief Ralph Evangelous called necessary force.

"Had he shown his hands, there would not have been an issue," Evangelous said. "Until we see his hands, it is a very dangerous and volatile situation that could have gone really bad and didn't. I support our response and our efforts there"

When we asked Smith if he felt an officer had assaulted him, he said, "no." When we asked if he'd ever been in trouble or been arrested, he shook his head no. But Wilmington Police say this is not their first run in with Smith.

"This individual has been armed several times in the past in confrontations that we have had with him," Evangelous said. "We didn't know whether or not he was armed. Like I have said before, I am not going to put our officers in a situation where they are going to get themselves hurt or killed because of our complacency."

Department of Corrections records show Smith has a lengthy criminal history including multiple convictions on drug and gun charges and two convictions for assault with a deadly weapon on a government officer.

Smith is in the New Hanover County Jail facing a felony larceny charge. His bond is set at $10,000.

Wilmington Police released dashcam video of Smith's arrest.

Click here to watch the video

Cpl. Kevin Smith says on the video that the arrest was appropriate, because the suspects were considered to have robbed a bank.

Smith says the occupants of the vehicle police stopped refused to get out for several minutes, however the video shows it was 57 seconds before the suspect was out of the SUV and on the ground.

The video shows an undercover officer dragging the suspect away from the SUV, then stomping on his rear-end twice while yelling, "Put your hands behind your back!"

Smith says the officer felt he needed to "emphasize that with his foot."

He says it's important for the public to know that felony stops like this one are one of the most dangerous situations an officer can be in, just short of being shot at.

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DOESN'T ANYONE THAT SIDES

DOESN'T ANYONE THAT SIDES WITH THE SUSPECTS REALIZE THAT IT WAS THEIR DECISION TO GO TO THE BANK AND DO THIS? NO ONE MADE THEM DO IT. THEY DIDN'T COMPLY WITH THE OFFICERS REQUESTS. ITS TIME TO MAKE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS. OF COURSE HE WOULD SAY HE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND OR REMEMBER. WOULDN'T YOU?

All you bleeding heart libs..

...need to give Roy and his accomplice a room in your house if you feel so sorry for him.

He deserved more than he

He deserved more than he got, but I'd suspect that he didn't immediately get out of the car because of the vicious manner in which the dog was acting and its close proximity to the vehicle. I know that I would be hesitant to exit my vehicle with a dog that close and behaving in that manner.

They need to keep the dog quiet and non-threatening until it's needed.

Brian....

...you're an idiot

Video Camera Returned?

The WPD must have found their missing video camera from their "Hooker Sting Op"...or HSO.

First off...how did the WPD catch this guy so quickly...and so many others that actually rob a bank ride off on bicycles then sought after?
Once again...with a long criminal record this guy has...he is out walking the streets???
There are tons and tons of open land in Wyoming/Montana/Idaho/etc. that our Government could copy and paste prisons onto...and there they would have a long term containment center(s) to house these folks. If there's a choice of my tax dollars paying to feed these folks behind bars, or have them endanger lives of people on the street, by letting these criminals roam free...for "once"...I guess I would have to say "use my tax dollars Uncle Sam for something useful...for a change".

arresting bad guys

come on just another example of the media blowing things out of proportion to get a story. How about the bum had prior arrests for offenses involving drugs and guns. what is he doing on the street to begin with.

He is a hardened criminal.

He is a hardened criminal. He figured out a lot of things in jail. He deliberately tried to set himself up, as a victim, but it failed. He rode the edge, and made sure, to keep it at a "misdemeanor" level. The police did a great job, and it's good they have a chief who stands up for them.

The sad part is, this is just a misdemeanor, and will end up being just another 'slap on the wrist', for our little 'Professional Victim'. I bet this guy gets a disability check, and has had whiplash, a dozen times. My bet is, he will show up again, in the news, committing another crime. He knows how to work the system.

Arrest

I am a veteran of 40+ years, on the Phila. PD, the video shows that the proper amount of force was used to effect the arrest.

The plainclothes Officer, used only the force that was necessary to get the suspect to comply, once the suspect complied no further force was used. A proper use of the force continuum Good Job by the Officers of the WPD.

Totally agree here Mac...

The only folks that will whine are the racists....

WOW

Ok,

One, these two clowns walk into a bank. Two, clown one walks up to a teller and acts out a mime act that the teller feels is his way of saying "Give". Three, said clown does not have an account, a check, a bill to make change, a deposit slip, a coupon, or any slip or anything in his hand. Four, when said mime act is misunderstood, clown walks over and steals money from some poor soul who has to empty out their change jar just to make ends meet in this time of "recovery". Five, when said clown act is stopped by LEO after bank sets off alarm they fail to comply. End result, Clowns gets butt kicked. Clowns go to jail. Clowns should be happy that is all they got instead of a handful of high speed lead supplements.

VIdeo

I understand what the video may look like... however my father was a police officer for most of my life, and he had to use force when dealing with criminals. The thing is that we dont know the whole story about wht happened. Ok the guy stole a dollar, Im sure at the time they didnt know the amount and the WPD did what they are trained to do. I didnt like the play on an officers eudcation, my father went to college and was the top of his class before entering the force so please think about what you say and who it can hurt. Again I know what it looks like but they have to be sure of every little detail bc if they back off even for a second then they could loose their life or some bystander could as well. This is only a short climpse of the dash cam I am sure there is more to the story.

I don't know....I don't have

I don't know....I don't have a problem with the stomp because the suspect had not yet shown his hands. I have an issue with the dragging of the suspect face down after I'm assuming he toldh im to leave the vehicle and lay down. Excessive force? I don't know that it is neccesarily, but that officer could use some training.

Kudos to WPD

So easy to second guess When sitting safe at home in front of the computer. Listen to 911 tape and look at full video and it's clear what a problem the cops had with these people. Now find out the guy has pulled a gun on police in the past and has long arrest record. I am grateful to our officers for being out on the streets everyday protecting us. Thanks WPD!!!

BLEEDING HEARTS

IF THE POLICE OFFICERS TELL A SUSPECT TO GET OUT OF A CAR AND TO SHOW THEIR HANDS AND THE SUSPECT DOES NOT DO WHAT HE IS TOLD THEN THE POLICE HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DO WHAT IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AND US, THE PUBLIC!!! YOU BLEEDING HEARTS MAKE ME SICK TO MY STOMACH. ALL PITY AND HELP TO THE CRIMINAL AND NOTHING FOR THE LAW. OUR SOCIETY STICKS TO HIGH HELL!!!

The Chief says that this

The Chief says that this felony stop is the most dangerous type of stop for officers...It is obvious that the cops are the ones responsible for making it dangerous. There is no mention of weapons found on the suspects person or in the vehicle...Yeah, dangerous for whoever the cops pull over because they are the ones with the guns..

Yea, after the fact you know

Yea, after the fact you know there are no weapons. What about before the stop? Just because he didn't present a weapon to the teller doesn't mean he doesn't have one, just means no one saw it. Those officers weren't present when the criminals got dressed for this robbery, so they must assume the worst then downgrade if available. They don't ever know for sure until they complete the stop and a search of the people and car involved.

Try it...

tough guy..... See if it is really what you think from someplace other than behind a keyboard.

hey itchy

Wow - maybe you should join the police force if you have psychic abilities and know in advance that they don't have any weapons!

Are You Kidding Me?

What was that narrator and the chief smoking? I want some. I have heard horse s#@t before, but this guy is good. they should make the cop take sensitivity training. He would beg to be fired.

more out of control le's,

more out of control le's, there is no apology's,what's to say the guy being stopped didn't recognize someone in a t shirt?

The cop in the t shirt was

The cop in the t shirt was definitely out of order. The suspect showed no sign of resistance once out of the SUV and stomping on his rear to "emphasize" was uncalled for. Also, slamming him down on the curb is very questionable. Looks like Chief Evangelous might have more apologies to make.

bleeding hearts

awwwwwww. . . you wanna go kiss the poor, mistreated jerks boo boo? . . or would you prefer to have gone to a WPD officer's funeral? "The suspect showed no signs of resistance once out of the SUV . . " What could he have been doing in the SUV? Could he possibly have been holding a gun getting ready to come out of the SUV shooting??? Nawwwwww . . not that poor, mistreated jerk. He wouldn't do that, would he?

No he wasn't

The cop wasn't kicking him. He was putting a little weight on the guy's ass, which I guess applied pressure through to the other side. It worked after the second try. The guy put his hands behind his back. The cop stopped applying weight, and the guy got handcuffed. I'd imagine there were no bruises, and no pain immediately following. He wasn't complying - hands behind your back now... - so what else? Get closer, and pry? Tazer? Pepper spray? Nightstick? Dog? All those would leave lasting effects, and providing a little motivation got it done with no after effects. The technique used worked perfectly.

This wasn't a traffic stop for speeding, running a stop sign, or a cop finding a joint in the car or something along those lines. I would expect that they wouldn't take any chances.

Maybe you need to put on a

Maybe you need to put on a badge and deal with the unknown. Oh wait, you rely on others, right? Clearly you have no ideal what goes on in the real world. But if you want to be a protector of society, then please put the badge on and walk the walk.

It was unknown if he was

It was unknown if he was armed, and he deliberately hid his hands. For several minutes, they begged him to comply. So the trouble-maker, who created the whole scene got struck (but not injured) Boo Hoo. He upped the ante, refusing to comply, to lawful orders.

I guess in your world, the cop should have politely pulled his hands back, hoping he didn't have a gun, or knife, and wouldn't shoot or stab the cop.

video

RE: the 57 seconds I highly doubt that was the entire video. We don't see them being pulled over -- just starts where the officers are already out.

WPD video

The full 43-minute WPD dash-cam video will be uploaded as soon as possible - it shows that it took approximately four minutes for the suspects to get out of the car.

Frankly, I wouldn't get out

Frankly, I wouldn't get out of the car with that K-Nine dog ready for an attack. I understand that caution is needed when dealing with unknown facts, but the facts do show that no violence was committed by the couple while at the bank, and while it was a robbery, it was just loose change that was taken. Yes, arrest the man, but I am doubtful that the stomping was necessary protocol.

they may have had guns

Things will be better when cops are the only ones with guns

Only ones??????

That is probably the most idiotic remark I have ever read in my life. When the guns are taken away - Only the CRIMINALS will have them! What kind of dream are you living in?????