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Police search for three suspects in shooting on Greendale Drive

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WILMINGTON, NC (WWAY) -- Police are searching for three suspects after a shooting off of Greendale Drive Sunday afternoon.

According to the Wilmington Police Department, Jameel Neal, 30, was shot in the upper left chest and taken to New Hanover Regional Medical Center in a personal vehicle.

Neal was talking to 3 men outside of a home on Greendale Drive. The men got into an argument and one of the men pulled a gun and shot Neal. The 3 suspects then fled the scene.

Neal’s injuries don’t appear to be life-threatening.

Police continue to search for the suspects. If you have any information please contact the Wilmington Police Department

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Yes if gun control was

Yes if gun control was enacted none of these criminals would have guns. They would have turned them in,and we would all be safe. Nasty guns.

Lazy gun

Here are the results of an experiment I conducted recently regarding how guns kill people. I had to see it for myself.

Today, I swung my front door wide open and placed my Ithaca model M-87 Featherlite 12 gauge shotgun right in the middle of the doorway. I placed 6 double-0 shotgun shells right next to it. Then I noticed that my shotgun had no legs, so I placed it in a wheelchair to help it get around. Then, I left it alone and went about my business.

While I was gone, the mailman delivered my mail, the neighbor boy across the street mowed the yard, a girl walked her dog down the street and quite a few cars stopped at the stop sign right in front of our house. After about an hour, I checked on my shotgun. I was surprised to see it was still sitting there in the wheelchair, right where I had left it. It hadn't rolled itself outside and it certainly hadn't killed anyone, even with the numerous opportunities it had been presented to do so. In fact, it hadn't even loaded itself.

Now, you can well imagine my surprise, with all the media hype about how dangerous guns are and how guns kill people. Either the media is wrong and it's the misuse of guns by PEOPLE that kills people, or I'm in possession of the laziest shotgun in the world.

Well, so much for my lazy shotgun. Now I'm off to check on my spoons. I hear they're making people fat. I want to find out how they do that.

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ENL

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit is it?
After thy commit their crime you take their guns away
AS THE LAW ALLOWS.
If a felon steals a gun shouldn't it be seized and returned to it's rightful owner?
Along with perhaps a strongly worded warning about locking your guns up effectively?
Or do we wish simply to allow them to hide their guns for OTHER Criminals to get?
Is that it? In their haste to protect "law abiding citizens rights" is the NRA also promoting gun crime?
Well I'll leave that up to people a whole lot smarter than me.
In all my discussion i am not advocating seizing guns from "law abiding" citizens. I merely suggest that we be more like California and seize them from people who have now lost the right to own one.

Vog

Believe it or not...

..there ARE a lot of people smarter than you, especially after the baseless, rambling comments you tend to repeat over and over. READ this! If a Felon steals a gun, it WILL be seized If and ONLY IF it can be found! What part of that do you NOT understand Vog? Get off of CNN and go talk personally with the police leaders to find the law AND how they enforce it instead of speculating your garbage. Felons are NOT allowed to possess firearms...period! A simple DWI gets a CCP revoked immediately. A DVPO gets "legal" weapons siezed immediately. What part are you missing here? The grand scale of the problem is allowing multiple convicted Felons with records a mile long back into society to repeat what they went to jail for...just like this idiot! For the life of me, I can't recall ONE SINGLE incident OR statement from ANYONE or any GROUP advocating that criminals or mental cases should be in possession of a firearm, legal or not. Show that to us!

In MY home, I'll keep my weapons exactly as I like! I double lock my doors which is an indicator that you do not come in unless invited. THAT is MY lock, it is perfectly legal, appropriate and effective. I don't need anyone to tell me anything about how to "secure" my weapons against theiving felons while they are on the property I paid for and own, ok? You go ahead and triple lock your guns and keep them as safe queens. Defend yourself with your mutt and your cane brave guy.

And stop your incessant beating down of the NRA. I'm not even a member and am tired of it! Suggesting that NC do ANYTHING resembling that what the state of California does is absolutely the most insane, counterproductive and rediculous statement I've ever heard!!! Have you had a double dose of Geritol today er what?

Omatic

If you get depressed who comes to take your gun because you are now considered a psycho?

If I decide after all these years to commit a felony and give my gun to my daughter to hold for when I get out. Who looks for the gun? And how?

Stop the rambling yourself. I used to belong to the NRA but they politicized gun ownership so much they took the "sport" out of it. They also used my "dues" for political purposes - I belonged to a union once, and they collected dues for political purposes, I hated it then and I hated the NRA for doing it too.

If Mrs Lanza had her weapons in the open for Adam to get after he shot her is she a responsible gun owner? Her son was verify-ably crazy. If he was crazy how could an LEO check to see if the place where he lives has any weapons?

Finally - with the proposed new laws that say you can carry in restaurants, please tell me WITH CERTAINTY that a person with a CWP will not drink, EVER, when carrying?
We sit here and want to believe that all gun owners are good and CWP permit holders are law abiding citizens - and will be forever.
Yet we know people change - we know they "slip up". They will take that "Oh I can have just one" drink. That will turn into 2 then 3. We know that mental illness can strike any time.
Yes criminals by their very nature don't adhere to laws. If we locked up every one would crime stop? No because there are new criminals born every day. There are people diagnosed as crazy every day. Doctor's prescribe mood altering drugs and pain pills like crazy - clouding people's judgement (and aim) yet no one says - "Oh if you own a gun you might want to think about locking it up till your done with this medicine."

Human nature makes us prone to failure. It will happen as sure as the sun rises. That's why when someone says "CWP holders are already vetted" I say yep for that day for that time but people change, they take chances, they have their judgement clouded by drink and drugs.
Judges impose weak sentences and release prisoners too soon. Legislators propose laws with no teeth and restore "rights" too often and too soon. Administrations do the same proposing.
Yet we blame them all for our failings.

Vog

Hypothetical scenarios...again.

I can agree that the mental health issues may be more difficult to deal with. Far too may diagnosees are kept under the carpet and hidden so that the person isn't "labeled". Adam Lanza is a perfect example. If his parents had taken the appropriate action, he may have received the appropriate treatment and possibly averted that disaster. Remember that Lanza murdered his own mother to gain access to her weapons. I had an ex-stepson that was diagnosed with Anti-Social personality behavior many years ago. The psychiatrist immediately notified his school, workplace and scanned law enforcement for weapons possession. There is more in place than you seem to realize.

Hypothetical scenarios can always be developed, excuses as to why NOT to institute effective deterrants are commonly made, especially with legislators, but the fact remains that what is in place does not work and is not effective. Change is in order. Big change. EFFECTIVE change. It's there, but nobody is pursing it.

As for CCP holders, nothing and nobody is perfect. Just as we have lousy doctors, lawyers and engineers, we will have lousy CCP holders as well. For the great majority though, I feel that an effective program of candidate screening exists to license upstandingly law-abiding citizens with a somewhat extensive history. I know of several that have been denied for very obscure reasons and know for a fact that the checks are in place. We have to rely on the investigative backgound checks to tell us with a reasonable assertion that the individual will maintain his lawful compliance and be even further compliant with his/her new responsibility as a CCP holder. That license does come with great responsibility and seriousness. Hypothetical scenarios of the "legal eagle" going off the deep end and becoming bi-polar or instantly deciding to become an armed lush IS possible, it just isn't very likely and very certainly NOT commonplace by any means of the imagination. Just as we have people with cardiovascular disease driving trucks that could have a heart attack at the wheel. It can happen, but normally doesn't. I can invent another 1000 scenarios of that magnitude that CAN kill people every day, but most likely...will not. I can tell you with absolute certainty that I would never consume alcohol odf the tiniest amount while carrying. I cannot speak for others, but those I know are parallel. I didn't obtain my CCP to walk around armed, just don't feel the need for it as I don't venture downtown at night. My primary purpose is to be armed as I travel and I always am.

Again, let's see a focus on solution rather than make hypothetical excuses as why new and untried methods won't work. Especially when we KNOW the ones we have in place certainly don't.

Thank you

A reasoned response.
Solutions? More open-ness regarding background checks may be in order.
Doctors in particular prescribe meds that affect our abilities to use or carry safely. I TOLD my Doc about my guns before they replaced my knee.
My wife assured him that she would control the weapons until such time as I was "right" (she took my key ring as well keeping the car and the weapons off limits until I was off the Rx pain drugs). She knew that if I had asked she would have gone to a friend we know to see if there was a way to hold them until I was "sober".
I never asked so she was relieved.
I pride myself on being careful with them and I do not understand how weapons can be left out.
In Lanza's case I bet the question was NEVER asked by the shrink - "do YOU own any guns Mrs Lanza? If so consider a remote storage place for the time being."
And unfortunately O-matic I have seen family members develop mental illness problems after a long period of normal psychological activity. I've seen 40 year olds all of the sudden becoming depressed. it happens way more than you think.
We need to take guns away from felons - no doubt, and I'm FOR permanent revocation of gun rights for felons. I'm also for Life without parole or the Death penalty for those that get to a felony committed with an illegal gun as a second offense.
Scenarios play an important part of thinking about solutions. Yes I can think of many. Unfortunately the argument AGAINST new gun laws has centered around previously convicted felons and crazy people.
Under Obama gun ownership has grown substantially. This increase the chances that "bad guys" are part of the "law abiding" mix of gun owners. It was easy in the service - everyone firing at you was the enemy.
Here at home we seem to hold the 2nd amendment as some sort of irrevocable right granted by our Creator (yeah I heard that from a gun rights supporter friend).
I don't think the initial permitting should be as easy as it is. I don't think the right is permanent and I want the law to be able to look for weapons should they have been stolen and I want that gun owner to realize that his locks were ineffective - if indeed they were.
You can't make that decision - nor can I.
At some point we have to trust someone to make that call.
Vog

Whats going on

Shooting on Greendale
Shooting on Carolina Beach road
Shooting on Princess Place

Busy weekend

Vog

Whaddya mean, "What's going on"?

It's called criminals with guns. You know, the ones that shouldn't be mingling in ordinary society in the first place, the one's that "got a background check" and the ones "bought a LEGAL weapon". You know, the ones that all of the new laws to thwart gun related violence are intended for...that DO NOT work.

That's what's "going on", it's what's been "going on" and until it's addressed by the courts, will continue to be "going on".

Actually

I seem to recall at least 2 articles in various news outlets last week about crime down town and crime overall being down so far this year.

Where's Thom Goolsby with a bill for convicted murders to put their name on a registry?

Makes me wonder

Vog

o - matic

your name is fitting.
Every felon that appears here garnishes the exact same platitudes from some gun owners.
That explains the 'Matic part of your name automatic response
Turn all discussions about felons, guns, and law abiding citizens into an argument of lifetime incarceration. I have no problem with that so long as you, me and everyone else is willing to pay - VERY BIG DOLLARS - for the 20 or so new prisons we'd need and the thousands of new state employees we need for the Dept of Corrections.
I am willing to pay for it.
Are you?
I'm also willing to create an agency to remove guns from convicted felons dwellings - after all they're not allowed to own if they're felons - correct?
Put THEM in jail and seize their weapons.
Fair deal?

Vog

Glad you like my Moniker "Very Old Guy"...

...you may take of it as you will. The fact is, you just can't beat facts and facts are what I provide for the public to read. We all know what criminals do and we all know what law-abiding citizens do. There IS a difference! I'm all for the reduction or elimination of gun-related violence against innocent people, don't care what the criminals do to each other, but it must be an effective method. No more "feel-good", "we've done this, we've done that" smoke and mirrors crap without any results other than grasping for votes

When an individual has 3 or more violent felonies, he/she has proven their stance in the ability (or lack thereof) to function in our society. When you KNOW you have a snake, you either kill it or put it in a cage where it belongs. Lifetime, multiple felons are nothing other than simple snakes.

More prisons? Hell yes! You restructure the system so that the prisoners themselves pay for them. Make them work...free...14 hours a day. Live in tent cites, no TV , no workout facilities, shower once a week and live under the gleam of a double barrel shotgun 24 hrs a day. We currently have the "California method" of incarceration in place that you brag of so dearly and it isn't working! I'm ALL FOR the Maricopa County method! If Obama wants change, here's a damned good place to start! If you make it where they don't like it, they just may decide to shape up and NOT want to come back. If they do like it? They can remain there for the remainder of their worthless lives and leave the law abiding men, women and children to SAFELY go about their business!

One more little thing! Our current probation and parole laws allow a Parole officer to conduct random searches of their parolees AND their living quarters at any given time WITH the ability to sieze AND charge them with the discovery of prohibited contraband. We just need to recruit officers that graduated at least the 10th grade! Or we just don't parole them at all, especially if they're a risk!

Omatic

" I'm ALL FOR the Maricopa County method!"

Amen to that.
Of course if you want burglaries assaults and rapes to go down thats all well and fine.
But there's still something amiss in Maricopa cou ty:
http://washingtonindependent.com/91520/violent-crime-is-down-in-arizona-...

" The graph shows rates of violent crime in Arizona jurisdictions from 2002 to 2009. Violent crime rates are all down — statewide numbers included — except for in Maricopa County, the jurisdiction of pro-enforcement Sheriff Joe Arpaio. Crime in Arpaio’s county has gone up 58 percent since 2002, according to America’s Voice data"

The numbers are skewed by the fact that population growth in Maricopa far exceeds that of the rest of the state and the graph only addresses violent crime as overall crime rates are down, even in Maricopa - so I think the Sheriff in on the right track. He's just too full of himself thas all but I agree with his outlook on incarceration, it should not be a good time.
But the main point is you CAN take them off the streets - but that doesn't stop the problem. More felons are created every day. In Maricopa county they take in more felons every day as immigrants stream in from mexico.
Here in NC we just breed more of them.
So although it would reduce "crime" and take some felons off the street time in prison does not stop crime on the street.
There's no easy answers thats for sure.
But we shouldn't make it easy for felons, or people about to become felons to get, carry or use guns. The problem is how?
Unfortunately the answer partially lies in a very open society. A doctor who says "Vog, you've done lost your mind" will not, and cannot call an LEO to tell them I've "lost it" - until after it's too late. And if I have "lost it" I get to go to crazy prison - no work, and feel good drugs all day long.

It happens - even to the best of us. And I hate it.
People snap - they start drinking, or doing drugs.
Their thinking goes awry.
And that once proud, law abiding person is now just an accident waiting to happen. That's why NO ONE can tell me that CWP holders are and will always be law abiding. That's why they can't tell me they'd NEVER take a drink when carrying. It happens.
But lets not encourage it - lets not increase the chances it COULD happen. That's why I'm against guns in bars.
It's also why I'm for some open-ness about gun ownership. Somebody has got to be checking on us. Who? The cops? A Doctor? The NRA? They won't do it - too much liability involved.
We are both right on this issue we are too soft on criminals and make it too easy to get guns - even after committing the crimes.
But in the meantime there's no laws, no agencies that can and should be checking on current gun owners - because we don't want them do. We fear that any law pertaining to us will take away our guns.
Give it a rest - Scalia said "there are restrictions - certainly there are."
To gun laws
The trick is to find those restrictions that don't prohibit law abiding citizens from getting them, or keeping them.
Vog

Nice try

But you obfuscate the facts.
Lets see I don't clearly love the California method of incarceration and have never stated as such. I especially like prisoners working but that entails some other issues
As far as probation and parole? Yep they can and do perform random searches and yep criminals are not stupid they'll keep their guns elsewhere and yep they'll keep their stash of drugs elsewhere too.
But you ASSUME that if all felons are locked up there will be no more felons.
Funny but you don't suppose someone could TURN to a life of crime do you?
So what about that law abiding citizen that turns?
What about that law abiding citizen that goes pscyho.
No probation officer will check for their guns will they?
Heck the law says his diagnosis of being crazy is protected under HIPPA.

I would love to think that all law abiding citizens STAY that way
But they don't....

Vog

Vog

lifetime incarceration?

We have a nice zoo in Asheboro with some very large cats. We have a zoo on Carolina Beach road with some very large cats including a Liger.

I believe both facilities also have serpants; maybe a boa or anaconda?

From the Outer Banks to the South Carolina line, we have a large populace of gators.

I think putting a few of these perpertrators in the cage or enclosure at feeding time might serve as a detriment for those other would be law breakers.

First offense, you're cleaning out the cage.

Second offense, you're moving into the cage.

There would be no third offense.

Wait

That would make the animals dept of Correction, or state employees.
How are we going to calculate THEIR pension ?????

Pension? Nobody gets that anymore...

...unless they've been granfathered in for a few decades. People are lucky to even get minimal health insurance coverage these days (if they work 30+ hrs). If you spent as much time and energy trying to figure a solution rather that pointing out reasons why it won't work, we could get somwhere!

Would work

I have always laughed at the argument some make that the death penalty doesn't deter crime. I ask them to show me where a criminal has committed another crime after they were executed. Toxic waste dumping not included for disposing of the trash they became.

Hey I disagree with some of

Hey I disagree with some of your sentiment but I appreciate your candor and willingness to call out someone with similar ideology.