ONLY ON 3: Car owners would pay for Wave's beach bus plan
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WILMINGTON, NC (WWAY -- Years ago the main way to get from Wilmington to Wrightsville Beach was by trolley. If Wave Transit gets its way, the Beach Car may again roll to the ocean, but it would come at a price.

This afternoon the Cape Fear Public Transportation Authority discussed adding an extra fee for vehicle registration. That money would help pay for public transit to the beach.

Right now, if you want public transportation to Wrightsville Beach, a bus stop nearly two miles from the sand is as close as you're going to get.

"It stops on this side of the Intracoastal Waterway, so you have to walk the rest of the way, which is good exercise, but it would be a little bit more convenient for a route to go all the way to the beach," said Wave passenger Michael Stancil.

The closest stop to Pleasure Island is all the way up in Monkey Junction, and the cab ride from there to Carolina Beach does not run cheap.

"It was about $20 from the Advance Auto on Carolina Beach Road by Walmart all the way to a restaurant by Wintergreen, down there by the deep sea fishing area," said Wave rider Ricky Meeks.

Well, it may not be too long before Wave Transit makes that trip a little easier.

Wave Transit Executive Director Albert Eby said the state Department of Transportation would collect and allocate an extra vehicle registration fee to Wave to fund three separate routes to the area's beaches.

"The plan will be that starting next year, during the tourist season, we can provide trolley service both to Wrightsville Beach, as well as a connection from Monkey Junction to Carolina Beach and then a trolley service on Pleasure Island," Eby said.

Eby predicts about ten to 15 stops on the routes. He also said Wave is thinking about adding an extra cost for the routes.

If approved by New Hanover County Commissioners and Wilmington City Council, Eby said an extra seven dollars would be added to all New Hanover County residents' vehicle registration regardless if they plan to use the beach buses or not.

But how will that effect those who live at the beach?

"It seems like a wonderful idea in that perhaps (it) would cut down on the number of cars coming to the beach. That is the genius part of it," Wrightsville Beach resident Gail Spruill said.

As far as allowing Wave passengers to bring beach gear with them on the routes, Eby says he's not sure yet how that would work.

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Please see definition of socialism and note that Hilter believed in National Socialism. Tax us to cover that cost to run a private company?? If Wave can not pay for this service it should not be offered. $7 will pay for a cab. Let the person USING the servie PAY for the service. Some things are a necessity. A trolley is a luxury not a necessity.

it's not right that people that have a licence to drive has to pay for the fledging wave bus system that does'nt seem to be able to make a go at it on their own.

My husband and I own property on pleasure island but we make our permanent residence and pay our taxes in Raleigh. It seems unfair to the New Hanover tax payers to have to foot the bill for a trolley that will primarily be used by-out-of-towners during the summer season.

If CB/Kure wants to add trolley services, I'm all for it, but make the people who use the the trolley responsible for the bill. Can't speak for everyone, but I'll pay my own way. You don't need to tax people who don't use the service.

then it should close up shop. I do not want to support anyone who chooses to go to the beach. If WAVE and it's riders want to go to the beach, then they pay for it. Why should tax payers. NHC and Wilmington leaders????? are getting out of hand with our taxes. Are you leaders????? taking stupid pills or just plain deaf to what tax payers are telling you?

If this passes, I swear that i will pay it ( and all county taxes) in pennys

Please make it a $8 fee. The extra dollar can go for the wave transit rider to receive a free ice cream when they arrive at the beach.

Since I'm working 2 jobs trying to get by and have no free time to enjoy the beach, I would hate to think of all the wave transit riders being at the beach with no money for an ice cream cone. That's just unamerican.

Is the government trying to break the working class? Most people are trying like heck to keep our heads above water right now. Taxes going up, water going up, fees going up, gas going up. With all this spending you would think wages are going up too. Well, they are not. We are in a recession, you would think the public's money would only be spent on vital services right now.

If any elected officials are reading this: Please stop and let us catch our breath. Even if just temporarily, we need a break. This isn't a democrat or republican thing here, it's about the working class being nickel and dimed to the point that we just can't make it anymore.

Just another of the many ways that governments (local, county, state, federal) are finding to implement socialist policies into our daily lives and societies. Unfortunately most of us are unwilling to face the monster and call it what it is.

One day soon it will be too late.

I would use it and leave the car at home. Kudos to WAVE for the idea. We pay taxes for New Hanover but some of the beach towns have made it difficult for the locals to use the beach.

From an article on WWAY, 9/20/2010:

"In Barfield's eNewsletter sent out last week, he proposes two ideas on how to make ends meet for the transit system's financial shortfalls. One is a $7 vehicle registration fee. The other is a quarter-cent sales tax increase."

Is this Barfield's scheme to help subsidize Wave Transit's primary budget shortfall disguised as a temporary expansion of service to the beaches or do we have to look forward to a $14 increase eventually? Where will all the "quality of life" subsidies end?

Maybe it's only $7 (or $14?) on your registration, but then there's another 1/4 cent sales tax increase here in addition to the increased property taxes there. It all adds up. The tax paying PROPERTY OWNERS of this city/county are walking around with a huge target on their backs that every department head or elected official takes aim at to fund their special projects in order to keep their electorate dependent on them.

If, and only IF, this is a vitally essential service which benefits all should it be considered to receive funding from the tax paying property owners. However, such an optional route should be examined solely on the basis it can be fully funded and self-supporting through fees collected from those who would actually be utilizing it.

This is the proverbial camel's nose under the tent. Once the government starts collecting fee's or "temporary tax increases" they always find ways to reallocate those funds when their original intention is gone.

After reading this article it just burns my *ss up.They are wanting to charge $7 to all residents' vehicle registration.What kind of bull crap is that.It is hard enought to pay taxes and tags on a vehicle now.Maybe the beaches should be the ones that foot the bill.They will be the ones that are recieving all the money from all the visitors coming to the beaches.

So here we go again, reaching into the productive citizens pocket again to pay for those that don't want to pay, don't want to work and don't want to be accountable or responsible. There is already too much money coming out of my pocket to pay entitlements for healthy, able, lazy and non-motivated, yet capable societal leeches.
We pay for your food, we pay for your housing, we pay for your cell phones, we pay for your babies, we pay for your healthcare and take up your slack and pay your share of the taxes too. Now, you want us to pay for your beach trips?

Absolutely NOT! Not on my dime or on my time!

Raise bus fares to subsidize car parking at the beaches. Whenever someone tries to reach into your pocket and steal more money for their pet project, reverse the premise and see how much sense it makes and how much they squeal.

Obviously, the routes are not economically viable on their own so typically "they who know better than you what to do with your money" have to do their ersatz Robin Hood imitation and steal the money from someone else.

Here's a better idea: contact your state legislators and have them remove the ability for "they who know better than you what to do with your money" to steal from your pocket. The commissioners and council should not have the power to add fees to the state vehicle registration.

Why don't the people riding the wave bus pay the exstra fee for going to the beach? I have lived here my whole life, but I don't really go to the beach, so why should I have to pay an extra seven dollars on my registration? Is this the redistribution of wealth someone talked about?

From the story: "...the Cape Fear Public Transportation Authority discussed adding an extra fee for vehicle registration."
Wonderful. How about let those that use that service pay for that service? What a crazy thought. In all the time I have lived in Wilmington (over 20 years) I have never used WAVE so why should I be forced to pay even more that I currently have to pay for it? In fact, stop all government subsidies to it and either make it self-sufficient or shut it down.

Why should people that have regestered cars in city or county should flip the bill for the wave transit. Maybee to Star News may want to look into where all breakdown where there funding is coming from now.
It already costing car owners between 10 to 40+ dollars(depending on the age and value) a day to own a car for gas, taxes, payments, maintenance. A 20 dollar taxi ride isn't a bad deal, at least you don't have to pay for parking.

In England, many of the buses would have places near the front of the bus for people to drop their bags and groceries while they sit in their seats. Of course, it only works in a society where you can trust strangers...

Where are all the cars going to park for people that take the bus to the beach?
Why would you not just charge more bus fare for those that want to go to the beach?
Will the people that park at the beach and pay for parking get a credit since they had to pay more registration ? (people that don't own cars ride the bus and the car owners pay for it)

Government: If you have nothing they give you everything, If you have something they take it away.

I guess this is the new proposal. If you don't have a car and want to go to the beach great the car owners are going to be forced to pay for it by the government.

Why is it that we have to pay for someone else to ride the city bus,i already pay for my gas ,taxes, registration, repairs and state inspections,car insurance is that not enough.maybe if WAVE had not not had built such a nice building with taxpayer dollars ,they could have planned better.WAVE ,NEW HANOVER COUNTY and THE CITY OF WILMINGTON HAVE LOST THERE MINDS.They want more and more fees and taxes with the sorry wages around this area and then they wonder why there is so much poverty and homelessness and crime. If you want to ride pay your own way. CHARGE THE RIDERS ,DONT PENALIZE VEHICLE OWNERS. Nobody helps us pay for our vehicles.What will happen is people will start getting rid of there extra cars and then the state will get less $$$$$. NO WONDER SO MANY PEOPLE LEAVE THIS AREA.I AM THE THIRD GENERATION IN MY FAMILY THAT GREW UP HERE AND I AM SICK OF TIRED OF THIS AREA. TO MUCH CURRUPTION IN OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

I do not ride a bus. I do not support paying for those who do. They want to ride, fine, but why make me pay. This is another example of government entitities just not getting it. Somebody at WAVE wants this to fill their pockets with extra money at my expense. I resent it and any politican who votes for this will not get my support on the next election. I am sick and tired of moronic imbeciles trying to make citizens pay for things they do not use, do not want.

Why should I have to pay extra taxes for the bus to the beach? Its not fare and past trials show that it won't work. Many have tried to provide a bus service to the beachs in the past and ALL have failed. Trailways Bus Line ran a service to Carolina Beach in the 60s and it didn't work. Thats why the old bus station is now a bank. Two private services have tried since then the last one being the Troley Service from wilmington in the 90's and ALL have failed.If you think the bus service is what the people need then let us Vote on it, Don't force it on us. Just a extra note; If CFPTA decides to tax us for the bus when you find out when winter comes that it doesn't work I wont my seven dollars back.
TEW

...will never USE the bus to the beach meanms nothing to these megalomaniacs.

Let's say this loud and clear, once again - "IF WAVE CAN'T SUPPORT ITSELF THROUGH FARES, LET IT FAIL!"

For all the members of the County Commissioners, this would be a new tax. You can put lipstick and a dress on a pig, but it's still a pig. This is a tax, plain and simple, a tax we simply don't need.

Tell WAVE no!

why would i pay 7 dollars for registrations when i can drive there for that much several times when i have several cars. also is the buses equiped to handle coolers and chairs and boogie boards for the kids. charge the tourists that want to use it instead of the people who are paying enough in taxes and insurance and keeping the economy going in their own town. most tourist don't want to ride a bus anyway because they want to go when they want to.

thats just what we need having to support wave transit they suck why dont they raise their rates to ride a bus everytime io pass one maybe two or three people are onn it raise the price to 5.55 a ride to cover fuel costs annd to make some money i'm tired of paying for everybody else i cant aford to go to the beach so why should i pay for others run wave transit out of wilmington