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NC approves amendment on gay marriage

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MARTHA WAGGONER
Associated Press

RALEIGH, NC (AP) -- North Carolina voters have approved a constitutional amendment defining marriage solely as a union between a man and a woman, making it the 30th state to adopt such a ban.

With 35 percent of precincts reporting Tuesday, unofficial returns showed the amendment passing with about 58 percent of the vote to 42 percent against.

In the days before the vote, members of President Barack Obama's cabinet expressed support for gay marriage and former President Bill Clinton recorded phone messages urging voters to reject the amendment.

Meanwhile, supporters ran their own ad campaigns and church leaders urged Sunday congregations to vote for the amendment. The Rev. Billy Graham was featured in full-page newspaper ads supporting the amendment.

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All you need is love....

So I am a heterosexual male that is married just to get that out of the way first. We are all born under the idea of freedom. Which means you can live your own life, make your own decisions (sometimes), yada yada yada. But to read all the hate comments from the winning side. Do you not have lives of your own to take care of? Children, work, etc.? Do you really think that God the all powerful all forgiving, would approve of "your" beliefs in his words? It is funny to see how many people read the same book but have so many different interpretations. But what they believe from their interpretations IS what GOD was saying and that is what it is supposed to mean. If you find love in someone of the same sex and you are truly happy, that in itself would make God happy to know that his children have found the happiness they desire in their hearts. Shame on all of you. I am from the South and it looks like we are still moving backwards. You all have your own lives to worry about. You shouldn't spend your time worrying about other people's lives like you can control the world. Your God will judge you one day based on your beliefs and the horrible path you are taking on this and many other things I am sure. Would love to see that go down when your time comes.

People living sinful

People living sinful lifestyles does not make God happy. God cannot look upon sin. That is why when Christ was dying on the cross, he uttered the words, "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me." In His moment of death he bore the weight of all sins, past, present and future and God could not look at him without looking at the sin. I can lay my head down at night with a clear conscience knowing that I did not condone that which God condemns.

All you need is love???

Did you not read the "hate comments" coming from the losing side? Where they call us stupid, unable to decide for ourselves, and how we will burn in hell for our decision (including your own post)? Why are you calling us out, when the opposing side (including yourself) is commenting just as poorly? We voted our conscience, after much prayer and consideration. I'm confident with my decision to vote for the amendment.

How can you assume to speak for God when you condemn us for the same thing? Man up, Mr. Man. It's a done deal.

Maybe you missed all the hate comments from the loosing side...

Maybe you missed all the hate comments from the loosing side..Strange how that could have happened. Really it's not complicated to interpret what God said about gays~ Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a DETESTABLE act; they shall surely be put to death. Not a lot of room here for different interpretations.

I am overjoyed that you are from the south. However NC is not alone. Currently 30 other states have the same law in effect or very similar. So you can cut the southern crap. It's not flying.

"You shouldn't spend your time worrying about other people's lives like you can control the world" I agree with you, so stop worrying about our lives.

Wait... WHAT

I find this astounding. Someone who voted against amendment 1 posted this.
"You shouldn't spend your time worrying about other people's lives like you can control the world"
This was posted to Grand Ole Party, who voted FOR amendment 1.
Grand Ole Party had this to say "I agree with you, so stop worrying about our lives."

Grand Ole Party, while I don't normally resort to insults and name calling, i gotta say the level of your hypocrisy is astounding (really really big, like that fish that got away that one time) and makes me question your own level of intelligence and ability to connect the dots (those numbered dots that when you drew a line from one number to the next made a fish in your bible study class when you were a kid).

The fact that you just voted and rejoiced in the passing in a law that Does JUST THAT. It gets into people houses and lives that are none of your concern. And don't bother quoting Lev to me again... I'm so sick of seeing that. Regardless of if its a sin or not, its GOD'S job to lay down the judgment and punishment as HE see's fit. It's also the sinners place to seek repentance and forgiveness. YOU sir have no place in that, that's between God and them.

"Let those who have NOT sinned, cast the first stone." Well sir, we are all sinners, I've sinned as i'm sure you have, but what i'm not going to do is care or concern myself with your sins, lifestyle choices, or wether you get into heaven or not, because its not my place. I'm going to concentrate on my own soul and my own actions in this world. I'm also not going to pass judgment on you. And while I'm sure this message more than speaks for the fact that I think your a tool, what i'm NOT going to do is pass a law that forces you to keep your mouth shut. I'd suggest you take your own advice and the advice your The Bible and stay out of peoples lives.

Wow, do I have to explain everything...

Listen MORON....This~"You shouldn't spend your time worrying about other people's lives like you can control the world" Was a quote from the person above me. Hence the quotation marks. I will spell it out for you next time. Jeez. Read first then comment. Second, I in fact did not vote for anything as I am currently in Afghanistan. Nor at any time have I said I was for this amendment. What I am against however is the negative stereotypes being used to describe the people that voted in favor of it. Go back and read my other post genius, I have stated that I am in fact NOT against gay marriage, nor against gays serving in the military. As to the verse from the bible, the above poster stated that it was a verse open to interpretation. So again I pointed out the verse and stated that it is in fact not. And quite frankly I could careless that you are tired of seeing the above stated verse, if you are so sick of reading it, STAY OFF THESE FORUMS GENIUS. Now prior to responding to this, READ THE DAMN THING.

Leviticus

If that's the case, do you support this?
No resident of the state of North Carolina may consume shellfish, under penalty of the law (Leviticus 11:10)

No resident of the state of North Carolina may cut his hair, under penalty of the law. (Le...viticus 19:27)

No resident of the state of North Carolina may work on Sunday, under penalty of death. (Exodus 35:2)

No resident of the state of North Carolina may consume pork or touch a dead pig, under penalty of the law (Leviticus 11:7-8)
No resident of the state of North Carolina may clothe themselves in polyester, or other items made of more than one fabric, under penalty of the law. (Leviticus 19:19)

No resident of the state of North Carolina may curse their mother or father, under penalty of death. (Leviticus 20:9)

No blind or “deformed” residents of the state of North Carolina may attend church services, under penalty of the law. (Leviticus 21:17-18)

If any male resident of the state of North Carolina is unfaithful to his wife, both he and his wife will suffer the penalty of death. ((Leviticus 20:10)

No female residents of the state of North Carolina will be permitted to any position of authority, including teaching, under penalty of the law. (1 Timothy 2:12)

Uh...

Uh...those laws were written for people of the Jewish faith only, and some of the food restrictions you mentioned were changed in later books of the Bible. Sometimes a little knowledge is a dangerous thing...but at least it got you to read a little bit of the Bible. Nice try.

So let me get this straight.

I got the food laws but what about the rest of those crazy laws. shell fish had nothing to do with beating your kid to death because he talked back to you, or that after your wife has her period, you should burn the bed or be put to death.

So let me get this straight.

The part where the bible says, in Leviticus, that its despicable for gays to be gay IS written by God, but the OTHER laws in Leviticus are written by jewish men and can therefor be ignored. So how do you know the difference. More to the point, doesn't that mean we can ignore the 10 commandments, since they were written by Moses and all and he's not only a man but a jewish man?

pleaseeeeeee Grand

"what God said about gays"??? god didnt say a word, man wrote the bible. You all find it easier to believe the fairy-tale than the truth.

fairy tale...

Your breath and why you are breathing is a fairy tale. You call the Bible a fairy tale and yet you are alive. When you do meet God and you are judged have a good laugh with him about the fairy tale. You only have maximum maybe fifty years left whomever you are because you sound very indignant and naive. The fairy tale will have a blurry ending for you if you dont try to realize its not a fairy tale. Life is real short keep laughing until you are either afraid or are about to die. Then you will bow your head or fall on your knees and beg Him. You are another one of the ones I will pray that you will at least try the alleged fairy tale. I will not respond to anything you or other post unless you make a rationale point and not sarcasm nor ignorance. Thats all people seem to be able to do anymore.

roy

Glad that you felt the need to reply to a post directed at another person.

You and I are the totality of a billion years of evolution. The human body is amazing, but so are the bodies of monkeys and many other lower mammals. They all contributed in some way to the human species, the highest form on this planet, so far.

A few million years ago, humans did not exist. We were evolving. Viruses are evolving right now, at an alarming rate. That is why new strains of influenza or drug resistant viruses are appearing.

The evolutionary process involves trillions of mutations over millions of years. Some of the mutations are improvements, some are not. The poor ones fail.

The human reproductive process is very much the same as a snake, or bird, or dinosaur. All these animals have a male and female, need a fertilization procedure, gestate and give birth to a complex, small version of themselves. Even microbes reproduce. That is where we evolved from.

Just like our politics, there are two distinct beliefs about the origins of our species. As you can see I am an evolutionary, but I like discussing this with rational folks who have a different view. However, I have learned that it is very rare that either side will change their opinion.

Have a lovely day.

Yada

Yada, yada, yada...same old rhetoric from Das. Big surprise there, huh?

pfft

Keeps you on your toes and replying though. huh?

Yeah

Yeah, it does....and mine keep you replying too, huh?

YES

Your turn.

Once again Das

We get it, you don't believe in God. However it would seem that 61% of the people of the state of NC don't believe in gay marriage nor civil unions. Christians are not all republicans, bigots, racists, rednecks anymore than the old stereotypes that gays are all pedophiles. You may disagree with the way the vote went, but to group everyone together that has a different opinion than you is ignorance and you are well aware of it.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." (NIV).

So according to this verse a

So according to this verse a large proportion of so called Christians and several pastors, priests, etc also will not inherit the kingdom of God. Especially given most are adulterers, and greedy, and drunkards....... Those who live in glass houses....

Now, now

Now, now. Don't judge....

really?

SO I guess all of you that committed those sins are pretty screwed huh? OH but wait, we can be forgiven and get into heaven......... what a load.

I think time will take care

I think time will take care of this issue. The highest percentage of people that voted for the amendment are older and in time these voters will be replaced by younger voters. Younger people are more apt to vote for gay marriage. I think in 20 years this whole issue will be gone and there will be gay marriage. Time will tell.

Yes, you're right

Yes, you're right. We will die off (hoping for another's death is considered murder by God's standards). But we will be replaced by our children and our grandchildren who have been trained up in the way they should go. There will always be young people from the church who know that homosexuality is wrong and against God's law. They will vote just like we did because they will know right from wrong too, with the Bible as their guide. No where in the Bible does it say that God approves of homosexuality. It will always be considered immoral and unnatural, deviant sexual behavior; and there will always be upright, God fearing people who will vote it down.

hope so

My parents are in their 80's , they voted against it. The atheist numbers are growing as well so the churches wont control as many sheep in the future.

Aha...That explains it!

So your parents, in their 80's, voted against it. Well, well, that certainly helps to explain why you are the way you are.

yeah duh

They are atheist and non homophobic. They are wonderful, intelligent people. Couldn't ask for better.

I suppose the next

I suppose the next constitutional amendment proposed by our wonderful conservative legislature will mandate that the Baptist Church is the only recognizable church, and all other churches must close their doors. Then what will you do? People came to this country seeking religious freedom, and our soldiers die every day for our freedom, and now that freedom is in jeapordy. Today is a sad day.

Hey

It's only sad for the losing side.

Since when are you and I

Since when are you and I supposed to be at war with one another? We are all Americans and should be working toward making our society better, stronger. This amendment hurts everyone and when they take away the rest of your freedom, you will regret what you have done to your fellow Americans.