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FIRST ON 3: Police investigating report of sexual assault behind downtown gay bar

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THE FOLLOWING IS INFORMATION FROM THE WILMINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT:

Case#: 2011-020644
Time: 3:15 a.m. – Friday morning
Location: 100 Betten Court (alley)
Offense: 1st degree sex offense

Summary: While on routine patrol, officers discovered a 24-year-old man in the alley behind Slice of Life and Ibiza. He was naked except for a trash bag wrapped around his waist, and he appeared to be urinating on a vehicle in the parking lot.

Initially, the victim, who was intoxicated, did not want to talk about what had happened because he said he was afraid a family member would find out.

After further questioning, he said had been sexually assaulted in the alley by a man he had met in the bar. He said the two men had performed consensual sex acts on each other earlier in the evening in a restroom inside the bar, but he said the second incident (outside in the alley) was forced.

The scene was processed for evidence and the victim was taken to the ER for evidence collection there. The case remains under investigation.

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Where to draw the line?

The guy admitted to just having "consensual sex" with perp in the bars bathroom (which is a public facility, by the way). Perhaps the perp decided he would try for a little more outdoor fun without that enticing dirty toilet and urinal ambience. Perhaps the victim made up the "outdoor" story because he was caught outside by the police without his clothes on peeing on peoples cars. Almost as sick as his first act indoors.

Keywords: Filty, perverted, unnatural, nasty, sick and twisted.

There is no line to be drawn with rape

Why is it so hard for some people to get this?

I don't know if this person made the story up or not. That's not my place - that responsibility rests with the judicial system.

However, let's assume just for a second the story is true. This was an intoxicated person who - let's just say - was raped (in case you didn't know, any unwanted sexual activity is rape). Whether this victim is male, female, homosexual or not does NOT matter.

Whether the rape occurred in a public place, in a restroom, in jail, in a car, in school, at church, in the stadium, in a hotel room etc. DOES NOT matter. It's still rape.

Whether the victim is a prostitute or is drunk or is drugged up or dresses provocatively or doesn't speak English or whatever DOES NOT matter. It's still rape.

It doesn't matter that you disapprove of homosexual activity (since you describe it as 'filty [sic], perverted, unnatural, nasty sick and twisted.' Rape is rape.

No wonder many people are still afraid of reporting sexual assault with the 'wonderful' attitudes out there. Most of the comments here perfectly illustrate why rape is one of the most unreported crimes.

Wilmington is headline news

Wilmington has become the melting pot for all types of garbage. You all have no room to talk about Columbus County ever again. Thugs doing drive by shooting in your neighborhood gang infested areas, shootings and stabbings outside of your bars, homosexual rapings....
WWAY, you have no room to bash RC Soles ever again or Columbus County. Your town has plenty of tabloid news to report. Homosexual acts being performed in the bathroom and then homosexual raping outside of the club in the alley?

Bashing RC Soles

I beg to differ! WWAY did not bash RC Soles they reported the news which happens to be what they do and it's perfectly legal. If you want to protect that precious little gem called Columbus County from a collection of "Garbage" don't you think that WWAY might be able to help provide information to the authorities by using news stories to get the public involved to clean the place up. As far as gang infested areas look at South Columbus the Tabor City area ruled by the bootleggers for decades, shootings, stabbings and cuttings are still going on. Have you forgotten that your precious RC himself was just convicted recently for the shooting of Kyle Blackburn. What I'm saying is, "Better clean your own house of danger before you lock your door at night." Lay off WWAY let them do their job if it wasn't for them who knows how bad it may have gotten before some one got killed.

How does that equate to....

...we can't talk about R.C. Soles?

Your argument is that there is just as much filth in New Hanover County, but I disagree. There is MORE in New Hanover County. Our thugs are more prevalent and more violent. Our drunks mow down people TWO at a time!

Still, that doesn't mean that Creepy Old Guy gets a pass...

...by the way, does he have an alibi for the time period when this crime occured?

Yes he did

have an alibi. He was prepping to be Grand Marshall in the Strawberry Festival parade. OR, he was working to secure bond for BJ Wright. OR, he was meeting with Frog's builder to rebuild the house.

On another note, so much for Ru Paul bringing his/her drag queen show from Cable TV to Wilmington.

And, people wonder why we raise the bridge each evening to stem the flow of traffic.

"we"? What bridge do you

"we"? What bridge do you raise in Surf City?

s.c. tom...

I do believe that is the most hillarious thing you have EVER wrote!!!

Thanks for the compliment

or at least I assume that was a compliment.

There have been better posts.

I'm thinking seriously about compiling all of my posts and having them published. Ought to be good for a laugh or 2.

And some of those who take shots at Common and I might read it and improve their spelling and speech skills. As an example, when someone writes "cuz" in one of these posts, are they trying to communicate "because" or "cousin"?

Now there's a course worth organizing and offering on WWAY at 5 AM. Street Slang 101. Maybe get it accredited and offer 3 college credits. Professor Common & Professor Surf City alternate daily class sessions.

Tom

Your right this time, you would only get a laugh or 2, "cuz" conservatives just ain't funny.

Get a room!

With all due respect to your right to your own lifestyle, exactly how disgusting/broke/desperate do you have to be to have sex in a bar's restroom? That's not romance in the air, it's old, stale urine.

What did I say in that other post - "If you go swimming in a swamp full of alligators, don't be surprised when you get bitten by an alligator?" You just happened to run into a guy much like yourself, only he felt that raping you in a filthy alley wasn't any more disgusting than having "consensual sex" in a common use bathroom.

I can only guess about this, but I'll bet you that monogamous gay couples absolutely hate people like you (and your bathroom beau) for reinforcing all the old sterotypes about homosexuals.

Have you ever been to college?

Because I can tell you that plenty of girls and guys hooked up in bathrooms back when I was at NC State in the early 1990s. Nothing new there. Straight people have done the deed in parking lots, in restrooms, in closets etc. In fact, sexual orientation has nothing to do with location.

The choice of location is NOT the issue. RAPE is the issue - non-consensual sex is the issue. It does NOT matter if the victim and perpetrator are of the same gender or not. It doesn't matter that they had earlier sexual contact in a restroom. Unwanted sexual contact is rape. Saying 'no' means 'no.' Rape is rape and is not to be expected.

You sound just like men who think they are owed sex because a woman dresses provocatively.

Until these attitudes change, sexual assaults will continue - straight or gay or anything in between.

So your claim is that women....

...are just as disgusting as men? I can assure you that in college, the military, and any other interlude in my life, I have NEVER had sex in any type of public restroom.

It must be something about the younger generation - foul odors and urine soaking into the knees of your bluejeans don't bother you.

BTW, as far as the "alleged rape goes," credibility goes out the window when you freely admit that you had sex with him a few minutes or hours earlier. Don't confuse rape with round two.

Welcome to real life.

Oh, but it was a valiant effort to try and turn this around to be about me, and not the two disgusting pigs in the story....

Sex happens all the time

Sex happens all the time everywhere. To deny that people have sexual lives is to deny one of our basic reasons for existence. I never had sex in a public restroom either, but I'm pretty darn sure that it happens now as it did back when I was in college.

Credibility does NOT go out of the window when a consensual sex act occurs and then the other sexual act that follows is non-consensual. In other words, you don't get a freebie if you have already had consensual sex.

No matter how many times, if at any time the other person says NO, then the sexual act (whether it's the first time or the hundredth) must stop or else it's rape.. plain and simple. If I am saying no to round 2 and round 2 continues, it's rape. That's the law and it's a crime. If a husband has sex with his wife and she says no, guess what... it's rape, even if it is the millionth time they have sex.

As for the people in the story, I wonder whether they'd be described as 'pigs' if they had been a heterosexual couple.

Yeah, yeah, yeah....heard it all before

If you say "no" in mid...um....coitus, it's rape - to which I say, good luck trying to get a conviction.

Any side bets on this case resulting in a rape conviction? In the absence of physical injury, juries almost always reject a rape charge when there was very recent consensual sexual intimacy.

Unless your hypothetical husband beat the snot out of his poor wife, don't even bother taking it to the grand jury. Once again, welcome to real life.

You might also stop trying to paint me as some kind of anti-gay nutbag. I have no problems with gay men. I have a great problem with people of any gender who are so desperate/broke/disgusting/tacky that they can't find a more suitable place for sexual activity than a public toilet.

The sound of flushing and the odor of feces does not constitute mood music and incense to a normal mind.

Go to lawschool first, then quote "law".

The so-called victim in this case wouldn't have a toe to stand on in court, much less a leg. There is zero credibility and no useable evidence here at all. "Commonse..." stated it plain and simple for you above. Easily, any half-decent defense attorney would have this filthy nonsense case thrown out in short order. The bad part is only part of the behavior of these two is mentioned. What about the intoxication levels? Alcohol use I'm sure...and the prissy ones love to huff that "RUSH" stuff, right? "Mr. Trashbag" (no pun intended) couldn't have been at near his full senses while donning a trashbag and urinating on peoples cars in front of the police. Perhaps he was, but if so he should be committed for some serious evaluation!

The only thing this article really does is once again point out in vivid detail just how sleazy, trashy and out of control our downtown area really is.

Oh and to answer your final question... ANYONE lowering themselves to the level of having sex in a nasty mens public toilet can be easily described as "pigs, "dogs, "vermin" or any other creature that functions soley on instinct, not intelligence.

During my life, I've had some pretty incredible and unique encounters. Anything like this just never happened to fit into my venue.

Evidence

I really feel for the person that has to collect the so called evidence.

Not for the faint hearted...

Thanks for the lesson plan, teach!
I for one would agree with the commonsense post and easily and quickly call the pair "pigs".

WHY not?

First, for having sex in the PUBLIC bathroom, followed by having sex in the urine soaked DOWNTOWN public alley. (Glad I don't live or EVER go down there!) What are they, if not sweathogs who like to wallow in urine? Maybe it's their fetish and that is all good?

And... as my post said on Sunday, the poor people who live downtown have a daily dose of urine and vomit on their vandalized vehicles. Isn't that what this PIG was doing when he was caught "red handed?"

WHY? Oh why would you defend someone who is so inebriated that he is using a garbage bag because YOU do realize what happened IN his pants, right? PIG!

Do you NOT think that this "scumbag" deserves to be labled a PIG for the REST of his LIFE for pi$$@#! on another persons property??? And where the hell were his pants? or his underwear? Or his I.D.? Pig is actually too darn good for the drunken scumbag.

Oh, sorry, the "gentleman" drunken scumbag! Stay DOWNTOWN!!!

This has got to be one for

This has got to be one for "Best of Craig's List". Needed a good laugh today..thanks, TV 3!

Don't worry

I'll be ok.

Don't you just love our Downtown?

What a classy place to visit, huh? Added to all the other mayhem that occurs every weekend downtown, now the gays have to add to it. "...consensual sex with each other in the bathroom..."? That alone should have some, "indecency/perverted sexual act in public" charges applied. Just what rock do these weirdos crawl from under to come and create this trouble every weekend?

Sad

This is so sad and unfail. I hope he is ok and can keep meeting up in the restroom.

Funny

that gave me a good laugh

Sexual Assault

This is why things like this go unreported. I am gay and I can relate to this guy because I was assaulted in my early 20's at Greenfield Lake because I was labelled as Gay. I was beaten, urinated on and needless to say, I got away from these two guys before more serious harm was done. Take it from me, I was not soliciting for sex, nor was i looking for it. I have sense enough not to put myself in those situations. This is not funny nomatter who it happened to whether you are straight, bisexual, homosexual or transgendered....Rape is Rape not matter to whom it occurs. That is why hate is running rampant through our society, if it were a straight person who was raped, you would feel differently, but of course this didn't occur to a straight or female victim. No matter who you are a VICTIM IS A VICTIM regardless of race, creed, orientation or other. You should be ashamed of yourselves...how can look at yourself in the mirror after some of your biased reactions? I don't know who is more disgusting you or the perpetrator?

Hey, you left someone out...

"I don't know who is more disgusting you or the perpetrator?"

How about the guy who was having sex in the public toilet with his "perpetrator?"

Here's some free advice: Find a nice guy, set up house, live a nice, relatively normal life, and you will find that being gay is fairly risk-free and widely accepted. You'll find that most people truly don't care what trips your trigger. There are two gay men down the road from my house and they lead a life as remarkably hum-drum as any heterosexual marriage. Everyone in the area knows that they're gay and no one cares.

However, keep cruising parks, having sex in public bathrooms, and going through multiple partners every night out if you want to, but please don't whine when you get beaten up or test HIV positive.

Were it not for the tacky, sordid behavior of people like these two "bathroom bangers," the old, antiquated ideas about gays would have vanished long ago.