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Non-profit organizes gun buy-back program in Wilmington

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WILMINGTON, NC (WWAY) -- A non-profit group is trying to cut down on gun violence in the area by buying back guns next month.

The effort is hosted by LINC Incorporated, a local non-profit agency whose goal is to educate and motivate youth to make positive life choices.

LINC is partnering with local law enforcement and business owners to organize a citywide gun buy-back program in memory of two murder victims.

The Josh Proutey and Demetrius Greene Gun Buy-Back event is scheduled for Saturday, August 24, from 9 a.m. to 1 p.m. Three gun drop-off sites throughout the City will be selected. Anyone who turns in guns will be offered $100 for working handguns and $200 for assault weapons. They'll be paid with Visa gift cards or cash.

The Wilmington Police Department, New Hanover County Sheriff's Office and the District Attorney have all signed on to support this community driven effort.

Proutey, 19, was shot and killed while leaving work in December at the Community Arts Center in Wilmington. Greene, 8, died when he was shot and killed in Feb. 1997.

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Participating in a gun buy

Participating in a gun buy back program because you think that criminals have too many guns
is like having yourself castrated because you think your neighbors have too many kids...

Don't complain. No one is

Don't complain. No one is stopping law abiding citizens from showing up and offering $200 for a pistol. This has happened at several gun buy back programs across the country and its perfectly legal. Check out the gun buy back that turned into a gun show in Seattle.

This is the liberals way of

This is the liberals way of showing intelligence. Gee, let's buy these worthless thugs guns they possibly stole and give them cash. Mean while the keep their favorite guns and continue to commit crimes. You cannot fix stupidity by sugar coating a bad apple.

All this will accomplish is

All this will accomplish is to allow criminals to make money off of guns with which they have committed crimes. Anyone, who thinks that they won't turn around and obtain another gun, needs to remove the blinders.

Guns don't kill, people do. Until the people change, it won't matter how many guns you attempt to take off the streets.

This should not be sanctioned by officials who should care whether or not justice is served. Once again, the criminals get an out while the victims forever cry for justice.

Gun buy back

People should give up their old, rusty, non-functional guns. Use the $100 as a down payment on a good gun.

If you would read the story

If you would read the story you would see that the gun must function in order to sell it. Old, rusty, non-working guns don't count.

If you didn't leave them laying around...

There wouldn't be nearly as many illegal weapons on the street if you wannabe Rambo's would secure them. $400 plus for a handgun and many of you clowns won't buy a $200 gun safe to put it in when not carrying.

While these folks have the

While these folks have the best of intentions, does anyone in their right mind really believe that a thug from the hood is going to sell their gun and give up their "life of crime"? The heads from the hood are going to bring in some piece of junk gun and use the funds to buy more dope. (You sell/trade the gift card for what you can get at the local crack dealer and stay high for a while.)
This is just another liberal/democrat, feel good, politically correct, looks good on the outside, do nothing show.

Please hush

You don't even realize that you are so "whatever" that you don't want to give up your stupidity. Read, dummy.

One question...

For those guns that are purchased, are ballistics tests performed to see if that gun matches an unsolved case? If there is/was a match, since "no questions are asked"...that evidence could never be used...right?

One answer

Yep exactly this is just like drug screening for welfare recipients.
First they will not test ALL welfare applicants - as I showed in another thread this is illegal search and seizure. Here in NC and many other states they have to have the suspicion that an applicant or current resident is using drugs in order to justify the test.
Then they send a notice out saying we are going to test.
They then test
If you are applicant and you flunk you do not get welfare.
If you are a current resident and your flunk you are given a year to rehab yourself and if you test clean On one test you get to keep Welfare.
Under no circumstances are the results turned over to law enforcement.
EVEN THOUGH IT IS AN ILLEGAL ACTIVITY.
Not for applicants nor current residents. They walk away fat dumb and high with no worries....
Kinda like that gun buy back deal

Vog

Not illegal Vog

Since it is a voluntary buy back program, there isn't anything remotely connected to illegal search and seizure. You are not forced to sell your gun, you can keep it. It is a choice.

I pointed out you were wrong on the drug testing as well.

With the drug testing for welfare, the same applies because nobody is forced to submit to a drug test. However, if you decided not to participate you lose your benefits. If you test positive, you lose your benefits. There is no force used, it is a decision that the individual is free to make.

Tom

You are misunderstanding what I've been saying (and I'm probably saying it wrong:
Let me repost my response which came I believe on a Monday morning ater writing it on a friday night ( I think)
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*Yes I'm serious Tom
Submitted by Vog46 on Mon, 07/15/2013 - 11:17am.
NC's program is based upon SUSPICION of drug use.
They are NOT going to test ALL applicants - because they don't want a court case:
http://www.senate.michigan.gov/sfa/publications%5Cnotes%5C2012notes%5Cno...

Some basic info:

"In 1999, Michigan introduced a pilot program to test all recipients of FIP cash assistance for drug use, with the goal to implement the program statewide by April 2003. A drug test was required of every FIP recipient and applicant, meaning that the program was "suspicionless""

"In 1999, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) filed a lawsuit, Marchwinski v. Howard, in U.S. District Court against the Department of Human Services (then the Family Independence Agency), alleging that the drug testing program was a violation of Fourth Amendment rights"
" the U.S. District Court issued a preliminary
injunction against the Department of Human Services (DHS) to cease the testing. The ruling considered such a drug test to be a "search" and, as such, it could not be suspicionless. Eventually, the entire Sixth Circuit bench affirmed the ruling in 2003"

Tom - mandatory drug testing of ALL recipients is in violation of the 4th amendment as indicated by the courts.
Just keep in mind employers are NOT the government so they can set it as a policy to drug test all applicants - therefore it is viewed as voluntary so long as the applicant knows the drug test will be given.

But how effective are these programs:
"The results of Florida's suspicion-based pilot program illustrate some of these limitations. The pilot screened all new applicants in two regions using SASSI. Of those screened, 22.4% were identified as having a substance abuse problem. On the same day as the SASSI screening, the applicants
were then required to submit to a urine test in order to continue the application process. Out of the total applicants, 335 people, or 5.1%, failed the urine test."
So based upon THIS link data we would be suspicious of about 22% of applicants and test them all - only to find that 5% actually flunk the test.

Thats a pretty dismal result, if you ask me. I hope NC does better.

But stop with the randomness - the legislation does NOT allow for random tests. Even current residents will be NOTIFIED of the drug testing and if a current resident flunks they go through rehab, and give 1 - thats right just 1 clean test the next year and they get TO STAY (remember they were NOT kicked out upon the flunked test they wre given a chance to redeem themselves)

Kool-aid? Hardly. I would have hoped you would know me well enough by now to know I had a reason to state what I stated and the above link shows why I said it.
Its not kool aid - its legalese.
NC's legislation is useless feel good law that will do little to nothing to stem the tide of welfare fraud.
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court case after court case (I only referenced one).
If the State decides to test ALL applicants it is ILLEGAL SEARCH and its different then a company drug test because the 4th amendment protects us against GOVERNMENT search and seizure. Company's CAN test all applicants, government cannot.
But this gets worse because under THIS plan thugs who do test positive are NOT arrested because the info is not shared - same with the gun buyback.
And given the results of "suspicion based" testing in states like Florida t LESS than 3% denied welfare? This bill is not worth the paper its printed on.
So its not voluntary and its not mandatory it is all based upon suspicion. And given the quality of our social services folks (who are over worked for sure) I don't see the thugs in Sect 8 housing problem going away any time soon.
Read the bill, its all in there

Vog

ALL

right! Criminals can sell their stolen guns, including the ones they have used in murders, no questions asked. THEN go out and steal new ones! Great way for criminals to make a buck!

Background checks?

How are they going to do this, legally? The buyer has to have either a PPP from the sheffif, one per pistol, limit 5. Or, a valid CHP.

Or, are we gonna waive the legal requirements "for this just cause?"

Person to person sale

A person to person sale doesn't require either a purchase permit or concealed carry permit.

re: person to person sale

You are wrong.

14‑402. Sale of certain weapons without permit forbidden.

(a) It is unlawful for any person, firm, or corporation in this State to sell, give away, or transfer, or to purchase or receive, at any place within this State from any other place within or without the State any pistol unless: (i) a license or permit is first obtained under this Article by the purchaser or receiver from the sheriff of the county in which the purchaser or receiver resides; or (ii) a valid North Carolina concealed handgun permit is held under Article 54B of this Chapter by the purchaser or receiver who must be a resident of the State at the time of the purchase.

I stand corrected

My apologies, I was under the wrong impression a permit wasn't required when the transaction was between two individuals. Thanks for the correction.

Person to Person sale?

Who exactly is the person that someone would be offering the firearm for sale to? How would they know if the person on the other side of the table is eligible? From reading the article, it's basically a business - LINC, Inc - that's buying these. Don't think it matters that they are a non-profit.

What they could do is buy them, get the serials checked by the sheriff, and sell them to a FFL for what they might be worth. Next stop for them after that is guaranteed to be someone legal to possess. A win for all.

$323k payroll for a non-profit with a total income of of $486K seems a bit steep >>>

http://990finder.foundationcenter.org/990results.aspx?990_type=&fn=&st=&...

All sales

Either from a dealer, or a private person, require a permit, or CHP. Check your facts.

it absolutely does. look up

it absolutely does. look up the law.

And the criminals just chuckle under their breath...

...as they sache by the LINC table with their piece tucked in their pants.

great. now the thiefs can

great. now the thiefs can come steal my LEGALLY OWNED guns and they have a legal way of selling them.

I sincerely hope that these

I sincerely hope that these weapons will be ultimately sold to law-abiding citizens instead of destroyed as seems to be the norm. What an absolute waste that would be. I really would not expect many guns to be sold for $100-$200 when the same can fetch $400 and up on Arms List and through private sales.

all you will get is

all you will get is leftovers, the really nice guns end up in the hands of law enforcement and their buddy's

Sweet

I'll go to one of the sites and attempt to purchase any decent weapons for more than what LINC is willing to pay.

Good idea, but....

I've had the same thought. The problem is that many of them will either have no serial, or if they do, you don't know what you are getting. I mean, you buy it and get the serial run? If it's hot or worse, you aren't getting it back.

I would think that most people that want to divest themselves of weapons that they legitimately own will go to a dealer, etc. $200 for an AR or the like? Really?

Dumb...

It's obvious whoever is running this is an idiot.... And if you really sell anygun for that price you must be mental.

A fool's errand if there

A fool's errand if there ever was one.